Hatton vs PBF: who is a better boxer?

In what context?

They both have different styles and are both great at what they do. In a head to head matchup I would give the edge to Mayweather but not by much.

Mayweather has better defence.

Hatton has better body-punching.

Mayweather has better resume.

Hatton has the biggest win.

Mayweather has faster hands (but Hatton used to have faster hands than Mayweather has).

Hatton has better angles.

They both have good combinations, Hatton is much more exciting than Mayweather and can punch harder. But Mayweather is a three-weight world champ and more skilled than Sugar Ray Robinson ever was.. although Hatton is extremely skillful as well.

pbf is a better boxer than hatton

y is it that every other day someone puts this same question up on a forum stop talkin about it, pbf is better boxer hatton better agressor and hits harder... done with this dumb stuff

PBF by a long and wide margin IMO.

PBF by a long and wide margin IMO.
Well, you've obviously never seen Hatton fight outside of Tszyu and Maussa fights.

He can think in there and has always been an amazing talent.

mayweather is a much better boxer.. hatton is a better fighter/brawler..

Both have skills but mayweathers are superior

y is it that every other day someone puts this same question up on a forum stop talkin about it, pbf is better boxer hatton better agressor and hits harder... done with this dumb stuff

I think the reason why it needs to be talked about is that someone so ill-informed like you will come on and make statements like Floyd being a harder hitter than Hatton. I'm sure even Floyd's biggest fan wouldn't say that. :rolleyes:

Well, you've obviously never seen Hatton fight outside of Tszyu and Maussa fights.

He can think in there and has always been an amazing talent.
And what would you call PBF?he is one of the most skillful,pure boxers ever seen so far.........Hatton is good and feisty but he is not nearly the BOXER which was the question that PBF is.

And what would you call PBF?he is one of the most skillful,pure boxers ever seen so far.........Hatton is good and feisty but he is not nearly the BOXER which was the question that PBF is.
Well, how do you define BOXER?

Well, how do you define BOXER?
PBF....very good Boxer......Hatton very good fighter.Thats the way I see it.

P4P #1 means best in the game when it comes to skills (if weight is not an issue).
That being said. Mayweather.

I say Mayweather's the better BOXER... but I actually think Richard Hatton will beat him.

Floyd is the better boxer by far...

Well, how do you define BOXER?
A "boxer" actually "boxes". Hatton is a fighter, who has demonstrated some good but limited "boxing" skills. Hatton's success comes because his "fighter" skills, including his high-out move-forward style, have overwhelmed the combined "boxing" and" fighting" skills of his opponents.

PBF....very good Boxer......Hatton very good fighter.Thats the way I see it.
Well, you haven't seen much of Hatton then.

In the amateurs and his early pro career (before he started using weights) he had faster hands than Mayweather has now, always bouncing on his feet and alert.. picked his shots well, always remaining calm and composed. Hatton is a good thinker who can use effective 'in and out' tactics against counter-punchers, it's impressive how he moves his head on the way in and throws a little jab on the way out. He can punch from angles you didn't know existed, and uses a large variety of punches that you won't find in any textbook. His skill level is phenonimal.

I say Mayweather's the better BOXER... but I actually think Richard Hatton will beat him.

Do you think Richard Hatton will do him like he did Tszyu or do you think it'll play out a little different?

Well, you haven't seen much of Hatton then.

In the amateurs and his early pro career (before he started using weights) he had faster hands than Mayweather has now, always bouncing on his feet and alert.. picked his shots well, always remaining calm and composed. Hatton is a good thinker who can use effective 'in and out' tactics against counter-punchers, he can move his head on the way in and throw a little jab on the way out. He can punch from angles you didn't know existed, and uses a large variety of punches that you won't find in any textbook. His skill level is phenonimal.
Whatever the amatuers were a long time ago read above what other people have said they seem to agree with me.....you act like I am taking something away from Hatton and I am not I am simply saying Floyd is a much more skilled BOXER than Hatton thats all.

I would basically compare these guys to Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali, Hatton being Frazier and Mayweather being Ali, of course.

PBF....very good Boxer......Hatton very good fighter.Thats the way I see it.

You said it best :)

You said it best :)

Both are good, but who is better?

A "boxer" actually "boxes". Hatton is a fighter, who has demonstrated some good but limited "boxing" skills. Hatton's success comes because his "fighter" skills, including his high-out move-forward style, have overwhelmed the combined "boxing" and" fighting" skills of his opponents.
Lies, lies, lies.

How many Hatton fights have you seen?? You obviously haven't seen much of the guy.

Hatton has very good boxing skills, and is NOT a natural fighter (actually the complete opposite!). The 'pressure' style is exactly that, it's just a style. It's not Ricky Hatton. He's not a natural pressure fighter, he's been transformed into more of an attacker these last five years though. Against Tszyu, it was perfect tactics to smother him. Against Maussa, he looked horrible compared to his usual self and will admit that it wasn't exactly vintage Ricky Hatton.

Whatever the amatuers were a long time ago read above what other people have said they seem to agree with me.....you act like I am taking something away from Hatton and I am not I am simply saying Floyd is a much more skilled BOXER than Hatton thats all.
Well, what your saying is just not true I'm afraid - Mayweather is not much more skilled than Hatton, nobody is.

And I'm the only one on this thread who has actually seen Hatton fight over the years.

floyd is the better boxer, but hatton would win the match.

there's no doubt floyd is the more skilled boxer with better defense
but hatton has a better chin more power and heart

I would basically compare these guys to Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali, Hatton being Frazier and Mayweather being Ali, of course.
Mayweather is like the opposite to Ali.

Ali relied on his physical gifts (speed, reflexes, chin) whereas Mayweather relies on skill (blocking, parrying, shoulder roll).

RedRooster, stop posting so much in this thread.
You're like a freakin' JUYJUY or something.

mayweather is a much better boxer.. hatton is a better fighter/brawler..

Both have skills but mayweathers are superior
My sentiments exactly... well put. Mayweather is a much better boxer, but The Hitman is a better scrapper. It would be an intriguing matchup, and I would never count Hatton out, but Floyd is just an amazing talent, and until he shoes otherwise, he seems unbeatable. Right now, I can't see him losing unless his ego got too big, and he made a big weight jump for money reasons. I don't see him at Middleweight or anything crazy like that at this point.

RedRooster, stop posting so much in this thread.
You're like a freakin' JUYJUY or something.
I'm just abit shocked by the sheer lack of knowledge here.

redrooster is juyjuy

there's no doubt floyd is the more skilled boxer with better defense
but hatton has a better chin more power and heart
I'm not sure that Mayweather's chin's really been tested. Nobody can hit him flush.

I'm just abit shocked by the sheer lack of knowledge here.

I can respect that, Rooster.
But you can only teach people so much.
You can't teach people beliefs.
They believe what they want to believe.

Mayweather is like the opposite to Ali.

Ali relied on his physical gifts (speed, reflexes, ) whereas
And you're saying Mayweather dosn't have those? :confused:

In my opinion.
The best way to get your point across is to prove it.
So how about it..
Let's see the footage, Rooster.

I can respect that, Rooster.
But you can only teach people so much.
You can't teach people beliefs.
They believe what they want to believe.
But when they've never even seen Hatton fight (other than his last two fights), it's absolutely ridiculous. Ludicrous.

Well, what your saying is just not true I'm afraid - Mayweather is not much more skilled than Hatton, nobody is.

And I'm the only one on this thread who has actually seen Hatton fight over the years.
You're right jackass, you're the only one that's EVER seen Hatton fight. Damn, we wish we knew as much about EVERYTHING as you do. Give me a ****ing break.

In my opinion.
The best way to get your point across is to prove it.
So how about it..
Let's see the footage, Rooster.
Well, watch his first 38 fights and decide for yourself. Young Richard Hatton has always had a big reputation among boxing circles in Britain as an amazing talent since I was an amateur 10 years ago, he was talked about as the next big thing and how he throws a triple-lefthook in under a second and that nobody can touch him etc. How he kept going months without a fight when he was 16 because everybody was scared of him.

But when they've never even seen Hatton fight (other than his last two fights), it's absolutely ridiculous. Ludicrous.

Other than his two last fights. I've seen him fight this dude by the name of Michael Stewart (the one where he starts yelling, "that's more like it!" at the end of the fight)
Anyway, his killer instinct, power, stamina, and body punching impressed me. His speed wasn't anything too spectacular and he did leave himself open to alot of countershots.

What fights of his do you recommend for someone who doesn't appreciate him enough?

Well, watch his first 38 fights and decide for yourself. Young Richard Hatton has always had a big reputation among boxing circles as an amazing talent since I was an amateur 10 years ago, he was talked about as the next big thing and how he throws four left hooks in under a second and that nobody can touch him etc. How he kept going months without a fight when he was 16 because everybody was scared of him.
4 left hooks in one second? am i the only one who doesnt believe that?

4 left hooks in one second? am i the only one who doesnt believe that?

yeah superman could'nt even do that

You're right jackass, you're the only one that's EVER seen Hatton fight. Damn, we wish we knew as much about EVERYTHING as you do. Give me a ****ing break.
It reminds me of that time when there was a poll asking who'd win between Nunn and Jones Jr. Now, I was the only guy who voted for Nunn and the ONLY guy who had ever seen Nunn fight pre-Kalambay. It's pathetic, ludicrous.

Hatton was fighting on SHOBOX 3-4 years ago. He's had plenty of fights that have been televised. It's not like the guy was a nobody before the Tszyu fight. That win just gave him worldwide exposure, whereas before that only the UK and die-hard fight fans had seen much of him.

Well, watch his first 38 fights and decide for yourself. Young Richard Hatton has always had a big reputation among boxing circles as an amazing talent since I was an amateur 10 years ago, he was talked about as the next big thing and how he throws four left hooks in under a second and that nobody can touch him etc. How he kept going months without a fight when he was 16 because everybody was scared of him.

Not to overlook his talent and accomplishments in the ring, but c'mon it's not too hard to look good against lower class opponents.
I think people judge him off his last couple of performance, because those were the two best guys he's fought and he's looked good in them. He doesn't look unstoppable in any of those fights as far as talent goes, but he does have the heart to want to win at all costs.
Perhaps you overrate his talent as much as some people underrate his heart.

It reminds of that time when there was a poll asking who'd win between Nunn and Jones Jr. Now, I was the only guy who voted for Nunn and the ONLY guy had ever seen Nunn fight pre-Kalambay. It's pathetic, ludicrous.
And Nunn got beat by James Toney, who lost shortly thereafter to who? Roy Jones.

4 left hooks in one second? am i the only one who doesnt believe that?
Sorry I did actually mean to say a triple-lefthook and four-punch combinations with his left hand.

Not to overlook his talent and accomplishments in the ring, but c'mon it's not too hard to look good against lower class opponents.
I think people judge him off his last couple of performance, because those were the two best guys he's fought and he's looked good in them. He doesn't look unstoppable in any of those fights as far as talent goes, but he does have the heart to want to win at all costs.
Perhaps you overrate his talent as much as some people underrate his heart.
It would be a one-sided beatdown if the Hatton that fought Tszyu or Maussa turned up against Mayweather! Hatton wouldn't stand much chance.

He lacks heart and never had the discipline, a huge waste of talent.

It would be a one-sided beatdown if the Hatton that fought Tszyu or Maussa turned up against Mayweather! Hatton wouldn't stand much chance.

He lacks heart and never had the discipline, a huge waste of talent.
He lacks heart? are you insane, he's got plenty of heart, thats what makes him what he is.

RedRooster, who lacks heart - Hatton or Mayweather?

Hatton is the most talented fighter to ever come out of Britain.
Benn, Eubank, Hamed, Calzaghe, Hatton, Lennox.. all great talents, but Hatton is more talented than all of them. Going back to Conteh, Laing, Graham, even 'Kid' Berg and 'Kid' Lewis, Hatton is more talented than all of them. The guy could throw alsorts of shots from alsorts of angles, he could switch angles on the break or throw a jab at an angle to throw them off. The guy was awesome.

Well, watch his first 38 fights and decide for yourself. Young Richard Hatton has always had a big reputation among boxing circles as an amazing talent since I was an amateur 10 years ago, he was talked about as the next big thing and how he throws a triple-lefthook in under a second and that nobody can touch him etc. How he kept going months without a fight when he was 16 because everybody was scared of him.
I am going to agree with you that Hatton is not a good, but a great, fighter. He has impressed me every time out. He is one of the most entertaining fighters I've ever seen- period. But Mayweather's not another Joppy, a doormat, if you will. He's the best fighter, pound-for-pound in the world. Hatton's beat a couple good fighters, but Floyd's beat Castillo twice, dismantled my boys Corrales and Gatti, and has not had any controversial wins. Hatton will beat Gatti, but Gatti will have a little better performance(I think) against Hatton. That's not necessarily the best way to judge fighters, though. I just don't think Hatton's quick enough to beat Mayweather.

Hatton is the most talented fighter to ever come out of Britain.
Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Hatton, Lennox.. all great talents, but Hatton is more talented than all of them. Going back to Conteh, Laing, Graham, even 'Kid' Berg and 'Kid' Lewis, Hatton is more talented than all of them. The guy could throw alsorts of shots from alsorts of angles, he could switch angles on the break or throw a jab at an angle to throw them off. The guy was awesome.
I whole-heartedly agree with that also.

Gatti can't take a body shot.
That means Hatton can end the fight anytime he wants.
If Hatton does bleed as much as he did in his last fight.
I look forward to a very, very bloody fight.
With arguably two of the easiest cutters in the business..

He lacks heart? are you insane, he's got plenty of heart, thats what makes him what he is.
Hatton had all the skill in the world, he just lacked heart to go with it.

The guy is a disgrace, he eats absolute Junk all the time and drinks beers alday - sometimes blowing upto 200lbs between fights.

He only starts training for a fight six weeks out (apart from Tsyzu which was his first-ever 12-week camp).

Hatton had all the skill in the world, he just lacked heart to go with it.

The guy is a disgrace, he eats absolute Junk all the time and drinks beers alday - sometimes blowing upto 200lbs between fights.

He only starts training for a fight six weeks out (apart from Tsyzu which was 12 weeks).
It dosn't seem to affect him on fight night though. maybe some fighters can do it without it affecting them. Hatton may be one of them.

RedRooster, who lacks heart - Hatton or Mayweather?
Hatton.

Mayweather has plenty of heart, the guy is disciplined. Trains his backside off, never even touches alcohol!

It dosn't seem to affect him on fight night though. maybe some fighters can do it without it affecting them. Hatton may be one of them.
He would be even better if he had discipline, infact he'd probably be almost unbeatable if he had any ****ing discipline.

Hatton.

Mayweather has plenty of heart, the guy is disciplined. Trains his backside off, never even touches alcohol!
you never even saw hatton/tszyu. and this ^ is the proof any1 needs to see that.

I just don't think Hatton's quick enough to beat Mayweather.
He used to be. He used to be a real quick little ****er before he started using weights. That was a Big mistake in my view (using weights). The weights have slowed him down, this is very evident to me.

you never even saw hatton/tszyu. and this ^ is the proof any1 needs to see that.
Ricky can take a punch, he can take a cut, he just can't stop ****ing eating :D

Ricky can take a punch, he can take a cut, he just can't stop ****ing eating :D
... wtf? where the **** did that come from?

who the **** asked you about ricky's eating habits?

dont try to change the subject.

Theres a difference between training heart and ring heart, you could be a fat lazy bastard outside of the ring, but have the heart of a lion inside the ring.

Hatton takes risks, he has been for about five years now.. a real risk-taker and exciting fighter. But the guy is fading badly in my view and has missed his peak. I think weights and junkfood and years of binge-drinking are catching up with him. Pisses me off.

Mayweather. Hattons good but Floyd is in his own league right now kind of like Roy was.

is this a ****in joke???
pbf is in a leauge of his own & hatton will get his soon... real soon!

Mayweather has better defence.

Hatton has better body-punching.

Mayweather has better resume.

Hatton has the biggest win.

Mayweather has faster hands.

Hatton has better angles.

They both have good combinations, Hatton is much more exciting than Mayweather and can punch harder. But Mayweather is a three-weight world champ and more skilled than Sugar Ray Robinson ever was.. although Hatton is extremely skillful as well.

i actully agree with alot of that, and in terms of pure boxing skill, its floyd by a mile.

i actully agree with alot of that, and in terms of pure boxing skill, its floyd by a mile.
I don't know how you define pure boxing skill. Hatton's 5ft6 with a 65inch reach so obviously he can't work on the outside too well :) But the guy has a lot of boxing skills, always has had.

4 left hooks in one second? am i the only one who doesnt believe that?

Did someone order the sub 1 second triple hook? (5 in under 2 seconds)

Bodybag (http://www.zen71550.zen.co.uk/Media/Round_15.avi) (13 Mb)

Worth bearing in mind that's from the 15th and final round of Ricky's bodybag session before the Maussa fight..

redrooster, where you getting these facts from?

I haven't seen a lot of Hatton's fight but based on what I've seen Hatton can't be a better boxer than PBF. Am I at a lost here?

PBF can job and run. Punch and move out. Hatton always mixed it up, more of a slugger. :)

PBF is in a league of his own.

I don't know how you define pure boxing skill. Hatton's 5ft6 with a 65inch reach so obviously he can't work on the outside too well :) But the guy has a lot of boxing skills, always has had.

not compared to floyd. i said he has more pure boxing skills, vs hatton's kind of charging at you throwing combos type of style. his skills are underrated however

Did someone order the sub 1 second triple hook? (5 in under 2 seconds)

Bodybag (http://www.zen71550.zen.co.uk/Media/Round_15.avi) (13 Mb)

Worth bearing in mind that's from the 15th and final round of Ricky's bodybag session before the Maussa fight..
He still looks fresh and that's after 15 rounds of relentlessly aggressive non-stop bodybag-pounding, sick stamina.

PBF - the best boxer in the planet.

Hatton - more of a slugger.

Hatton is much more exciting than Mayweather and can punch harder

Id say lb/lb Mayweather has more KO power. Id like to see Hatton go up three wieght classes and try to KO Shane Mosely...

yo where are those cartoon clips from. ive been to the site b4 but forget it

PBF - the best boxer in the planet.

Hatton - more of a slugger.

:D Yup we have the same insinuation, these two have completely different styles. Maybe the thread starter meant who's the better fighter. :D

Nigel Benn - fan of Hatton.


Benn tips Manchester light welterweight Richard Hatton as his British star of the future.
He said: “I think he can go all the way. He keeps his cool and is a good body puncher.”
link: http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/1999/10/12/fspage_3.htm


"I have never seen anybody in this country more talented than Ricky Hatton," Benn told the News of the World newspaper.
"He has every shot in the book. I think he is a class act."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3352445.stm

Hatton throws corkscrew uppercuts and alsorts of custom punches that he and Billy come up with, the guy is amazing.

I think Hatton's a better thinker than Mayweather in the ring, and has better footwork, too.

Mayweathers ring generalship is better.

I think Hatton's a better thinker than Mayweather in the ring, and has better footwork, too.

Bro Ricky is naturally bigger and stronger, but footwork and thinker? I'll give that to Pbf. The guy came from three weight categories down and he survive ubdefeated. He can mix it up and can be a boxer too. That can give us all a good perception of how well the guy thinks inside the ring.

Hatton's a better thinker? Are you insane?
I think Hatton's a better thinker than Mayweather in the ring, and has better footwork, too.

Ricky has a very good boxing brain, you obviously know nothing about this guy and can't have seen much of him :eek:

He has very good footwork, too.

I think Hatton's a better thinker than Mayweather in the ring, and has better footwork, too.

How big is that crack pipe your smoking?

That's what I want to know.

Nice avatar too.
How big is that crack pipe your smoking?

Mayweather is feather fisted, but he's a better boxer than the hitman.

That's what I want to know.

Nice avatar too.

Cheers! :cool:

How big is that crack pipe your smoking?
You can't be serious?? Your trying to tell that Ricky isn't a very good thinker in the ring and doesn't have good footwork?? Your crazy. Did you even know who Ricky Hatton was before he fought Tszyu??

You need to be banned, seriously. You have no place on a boxing board.

You can't be serious?? Your trying to tell that Ricky isn't a very good thinker in the ring and doesn't have good footwork?? Your crazy. Did you even know who Ricky Hatton was before he fought Tszyu??

You need to be banned, seriously. You have no place on a boxing board.


Haha! I know who he is fool I'm British......lol..... you only have to look at Hattons face to see he is not much of a thinker......as for footwork......PBF will run rings around him all night long!

you only have to look at Hattons face to see he is not much of a thinker
This forum, sucks.

You can't be serious?? Your trying to tell that Ricky isn't a very good thinker in the ring and doesn't have good footwork?? Your crazy. Did you even know who Ricky Hatton was before he fought Tszyu??

You need to be banned, seriously. You have no place on a boxing board.

banned because he disagrees with you max??
your a nutjob, everyone is entitled to thier opinion

** Bad Question. It should be who's the biggest weinie, and that'd be PrettyGrrrl. Poor grrrl has exactly one title win going on 3 yrs now. Geez, even Gatti has a better record than that!

** Bad Question. It should be who's the biggest weinie, and that'd be PrettyGrrrl. Poor grrrl has exactly one title win going on 3 yrs now. Geez, even Gatti has a better record than that!

hahaha what a ***** ass hater. LOL at your pathetic ass avoiding the question bc you know the answer!

Both are great thinkers. I would give the slight edge to Mayweather, but Ricky is no slouch on the technical fight. Only if you have followed his career closely, that you know how truly good He is.