Kotsya Tszyu is universally recognised as the dominating force in his division...when you're the top dog everyone is gunning for you. Out of these 5 men(Ricky Hatton, Miguel Cotto, Arturo Gatti, Vivian Harris, Floyd Mayweather)...which one in your opinion has the best chance at dethroning King Kotsya? Cast your vote. Give your opinion.

Kotsya Tszyu is universally recognised as the dominating force in his division...when you're the top dog everyone is gunning for you. Out of these 5 men...which one in your opinion has the best chance at dethroning King Kotsya? Cast your vote. Give your opinion.
right now maybe mayweather can outbox him.in about 2 years cotto can probably take him out.

i dont think cotto could take his punches all night and i dont think his defense will keep his right hand away all night either.

i dont think cotto could take his punches all night and i dont think his defense will keep his right hand away all night either.



what about the other guys?

At this moment I would back Kostya to beat them all. The only man at the moment who I think would have a chance to beat him would be PBF. He would have to use all the speed he has and I think that if he got ahead he would have to stay away because there is no way that he could trade with him. Kostya only has 1 maybe 2 good years left in him and I have a feeling that Hatton is the only one of the 5 who is going to get the chance.

You forgot to include "None" option. I think KT will have 2, maybe 3 fights and retire. He wanted to do that already, but wants to collect. I think he will fight Hatton (no chance) and try to fight DLH and that will be the end of his career.

I would have to say zab judah

Mayweather has the skills and speed to outbox Zoo. Fighters who stands in front of KT and trade goes down. PBF will have to be in his slickest form though, same way Cory Spinks dealt Ricardo Mayorga.

I'd pick Kostya to beat every one of those guys. I think Floyed would beat every other guy on the list exept KT because I dont think Floyed would stand up to KT's power, since he is the smaller man.

I think Cotto will dethrone Kostya

nobody can and nobnody will only if he fights Oscar

it's gonna be Cotto.

Mayweather has the skills and speed to outbox Zoo. Fighters who stands in front of KT and trade goes down. PBF will have to be in his slickest form though, same way Cory Spinks dealt Ricardo Mayorga.


PBF is greater than Cory, but you cant compare Kostya and Mayorga. Kostya has too much power at 140 for Floyd. Floyd is the greatest threat to Kostya, but Kostya will cement his legacy, and retire.

PBF is greater than Cory, but you cant compare Kostya and Mayorga. Kostya has too much power at 140 for Floyd. Floyd is the greatest threat to Kostya, but Kostya will cement his legacy, and retire.

Agree 100% :cool:

it's gonna be Cotto.


Cotto doesnt give enough angles, dont get me wrong, I think Cotto is the truth, but he will stand in front of Tszyu, and Kostya will punch right through him.

I would have to say zab judah


No offense but if cory spinks knocked down Zab Judah, i don't think he could go 12 rounds with kostya tszyu at one point he will catch judah with that right hand

PBF is greater than Cory, but you cant compare Kostya and Mayorga. Kostya has too much power at 140 for Floyd. Floyd is the greatest threat to Kostya, but Kostya will cement his legacy, and retire.


Godzhand, I'm making a point that sytles-makes-fights. Typical match-up of a (A) slick boxer/counterpuncher vs. (B) puncher/slugger.

We have already seen that on Spinks-Mayorga, and both Mayorga and Kostya falls on the (B) category. I'm not saying that they're equal in skills, power, speed, etc., just their styles.

PBF is greater than Cory? He's a top P4P fighter but who's the undisputed welterweight champion of the world?

BTW, didn't Mayorga had too much power for Cory @147 as well? and one of Spinks' slips to the canvass was legit KD.

Godzhand, I'm making a point that sytles-makes-fights. Typical match-up of a (A) slick boxer/counterpuncher vs. (B) puncher/slugger.

We have already seen that on Spinks-Mayorga, and both Mayorga and Kostya falls on the (B) category. I'm not saying that they're equal in skills, power, speed, etc., just their styles.

PBF is greater than Cory? He's a top P4P fighter but who's the undisputed welterweight champion of the world?

BTW, didn't Mayorga had too much power for Cory @147 as well? and one of Spinks' slips to the canvass was legit KD.


Mayorga walks straight foward and throws haymaker bombs and prays to hit the other guy. Kostya is a ****ing assassin who stalks and waits for the perfect opportunity and lands ridiculously accurate power shots. I see where your coming from though. Cory is not all he is hyped up to be in my opinion, ****, Floyd may not be either once he gets in with Kostya.

Mayorga walks straight foward and throws haymaker bombs and prays to hit the other guy. Kostya is a ****ing assassin who stalks and waits for the perfect opportunity and lands ridiculously accurate power shots. I see where your coming from though. Cory is not all he is hyped up to be in my opinion, ****, Floyd may not be either once he gets in with Kostya.


"...stalks and waits..." is that different from pressuring an opponent? Does that make Kostya a slick boxer now?

Ah, I see where you're coming from.

Cotto doesnt give enough angles, dont get me wrong, I think Cotto is the truth, but he will stand in front of Tszyu, and Kostya will punch right through him.

This guy knows how to hide his chin and deflect punches and prolly has one of the best body workrates in the division. Tough as nails also. KT likes to catch boxers on the move, who lower their hands juuust a bit then pound that right. Cotto protects pretty good and ,with his power, can break KT down. Oh yah, not to mention he's got youth and hunger...Cotto's got KT's numbah...

Mayorga walks straight foward and throws haymaker bombs and prays to hit the other guy. Kostya is a ****ing assassin who stalks and waits for the perfect opportunity and lands ridiculously accurate power shots. I see where your coming from though. Cory is not all he is hyped up to be in my opinion, ****, Floyd may not be either once he gets in with Kostya.
Floyd can beat him right now. His style is made for Mayweather. Zoo is too slow. I dont want to hear people reply "well thats what they said about Mitchell and Judah". Floyd is on a whole different level. They are lefties and Zoo does better against lefties. They have no defense and Floyd has the best defense. They arent the smartest boxers in the world and Floyd is one. They were overrated and Floyd isnt. Ive said all along that Zoo gets too much credit for those wins. Who has Mitchell ever beat? Who has Judah ever beat? Who has Zoo ever beat besides them. Judah is my boy and has all the talent in the world but he never put's it all together

Floyd can beat him right now. His style is made for Mayweather. Zoo is too slow. I dont want to hear people reply "well thats what they said about Mitchell and Judah". Floyd is on a whole different level. They are lefties and Zoo does better against lefties. They have no defense and Floyd has the best defense. They arent the smartest boxers in the world and Floyd is one. They were overrated and Floyd isnt. Ive said all along that Zoo gets too much credit for those wins. Who has Mitchell ever beat? Who has Judah ever beat? Who has Zoo ever beat besides them. Judah is my boy and has all the talent in the world but he never put's it all together

Get the **** outta here!! One fight at 140, where he was rocked by corley? Who has Mayweather beat? Jack all...and now he's fighting some no-name fool while at least KT is taking on Hatton. KT doesn't just talk the talk, he get's in the ring with the best to prove his worth. All that shoulder-rolling bull**** won't work for **** against KT. Floyd better train for a marathon, not a fight..cos he's gonna have to run like a ***** to even last the 12 rounds. I reckon Gatti gives Mayweather a hellava fight when they meet...

Get the **** outta here!! One fight at 140, where he was rocked by corley? Who has Mayweather beat? Jack all...and now he's fighting some no-name fool while at least KT is taking on Hatton. KT doesn't just talk the talk, he get's in the ring with the best to prove his worth. All that shoulder-rolling bull**** won't work for **** against KT. Floyd better train for a marathon, not a fight..cos he's gonna have to run like a ***** to even last the 12 rounds. I reckon Gatti gives Mayweather a hellava fight when they meet...
You get the **** out of here. Floyd is ranked #2 #4# on most peoples list. He has one of the best resumes out there. Zoo hasnt beaten anyone in his career except for Judah and Mitchell, and tell me one good fighter either of them have beaten. Your a clown

Cotto will defeat him

No offense but if cory spinks knocked down Zab Judah, i don't think he could go 12 rounds with kostya tszyu at one point he will catch judah with that right hand


spinks knocked judah down when he was completely off balance ...it was a legit knockdown but it wasnt becuase his chin was weak

the answer to this thread could easily come this june, not only is hatton good, but look at the hunger factor for both fighters coming in to this fight also

Floyd would die against Kostya. Did anybody see Floyd against Chop Chop Corley???? Corley hit Floyd with flush clean shots, the only problem was he doesnt have the power to do any damage. If Kostya hits floyd hes gonna make him do a longer dance that what Judah did

It has to be Hatton from the list, he could be the only fighter to get a chance at 140.

Tszyu could be at 147 soon.

NONE OF THE ABOVE. You would have to get a time machine and pick up Julio Cesar CHavez, Aaron Pryor and Meldrick Taylor in order to get someone who can beat him.

I think, without thinking about records, Amyweather and hatton have both got good styles to mathc up against tszyu, mayweathers a skillful fighter, and he's got the speed but he does get hit, which aint good since tszyu's a powerful ****er. Hatton's got a fair bit of power himself, and he's better technically than cotto or harris methinks.

i'd make zoo the favorite against anyone at 140, but the best chances go to:

1 - floyd
2 - cotto
3 - harris

Gotta be Cotto or Hatton for me. Probably Hatton. He's far too smart, and i cant see any of those fighters dealing with the body punches or Hatton's sheer pace for much more than eight rounds.
You can tell your mostly American on here!

what pac fight is that where he's on the ground...thanks

in a couple of yrs cotto will have the best chance to beat kt. thats if zoo is still fighting.

thats the morales pac fight.

I pick NONE OF THE ABOVE.

I cant see any of them beating him right now. Now if he moves up to HW then we can talk.

These Yanki idiots have never heard of Hatton. RH will be the conqueror of Zoo. Hattons pace is a legend. His skill will conquor all. On with his power, He will never fall.

These Yanki idiots have never heard of Hatton. RH will be the conqueror of Zoo. Hattons pace is a legend. His skill will conquor all. On with his power, He will never fall.

So far your boy Hatton is backing out of the fight, judging by Warren's latest words. You are right on one thing, though, his pace is a legend. We are yet to see someone going back and forth with such speed about organizing the fight with KT.

I think cotto has a chance

floyd always fights his best in big fights, hatton has to fight somebody of any worth before we can start talking about beibg lengendary at anything, cotto is too young(see jermain taylor, nard arguement) the fighter that I would like to see get into the mix is vivian harris... big tall lanky, but still a question mark interesting division that needs a tournament I would pay to see any on this list fight each other

PBF is the best out of them all and has the best chance. If he doesn't sit on the ropes and shoulder roll his chances will go up alot more. IF he does that ****, I see TSzyu KOing PBF. Hopefully PBF is smarter than that. Harris is a question mark cause I've never seen him fight. Hatton is going to get KOed nasty by Tszyu. Cotto is too green and is a sucker for the overhand right. That's Tszyu's best weapon.

Cotto has the best chance out of the men.

No one. Not even the graceful Gatti has a chance.

^^^graceful? Gatti always goes to war! He's not a graceful boxer like Ali, SRL, PBF or Cory Spinks.

^^^graceful? Gatti always goes to war! He's not a graceful boxer like Ali, SRL, PBF or Cory Spinks.

Sure but I like the fluidity of his movement. Seen his fight against dorin. Almost ali like dancing. 3-4 four combo in the head then bang!!! savage left hook to the liver. He even dance his way out after that shot.

Whats with this nonsense that because Corley hit Floyd with some bigh shots zoo will knock him out. First off when was the last time outside of that fight u saw Floyd trade with someone like that, the answer never. He was just proving a point and he would not be dumb enough to trade punches with zoo. This fight would be close Floyd is faster, harder to hit, and has better footwork but zoo has the power and the attitude to pressure him and maybe catch PBF. I say either a ud for floyd or a late round ko for zoo.

These Yanki idiots have never heard of Hatton. RH will be the conqueror of Zoo. Hattons pace is a legend. His skill will conquor all. On with his power, He will never fall.
You silly pommy fool.Hatton will look good for the fist 3 rounds
then kostya will break him down and ko him.The only problem tyzsu is going face is getting out of the ring after the poms go mad at watching another hyped up pom getting knocked the **** out by a ledgend..

You silly pommy fool.Hatton will look good for the fist 3 rounds
then kostya will break him down and ko him.The only problem tyzsu is going face is getting out of the ring after the poms go mad at watching another hyped up pom getting knocked the **** out by a ledgend..

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Makes me laugh when Aussie's make debates about Tszyu into a international war, LMFAO because the only thing Aussie about Tszyu is his sun tan!! :D

If Tszyu shared the same level of respect for opponents as you did he'd get beat a lot more often, Maybe you forget its boxing and anything can happen.

I'm a big Tszyu fan but i'm not blind enough to think he has no faults, Hell even Lejia backed him up!

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Makes me laugh when Aussie's make debates about Tszyu into a international war, LMFAO because the only thing Aussie about Tszyu is his sun tan!! :D

If Tszyu shared the same level of respect for opponents as you did he'd get beat a lot more often, Maybe you forget its boxing and anything can happen.

I'm a big Tszyu fan but i'm not blind enough to think he has no faults, Hell even Lejia backed him up!


Do you think Cotto can beat him?

Do you think Cotto can beat him?

I assume your talking about Tszyu

IMO Tszyu would win that fight, i think Cotto has brilliant skills but as a style's match Tszyu would be more effective.

Cotto has a hands up defensive style and i think Tszyu ability to switch his left from hook, jab or uppercut with such speed and power would cause Cotto problems, i also think Cotto open for the right uppercut and Tszyu lands a perfect body shot with the right which would trouble anyone.

Tszyu's a great fighter but he's not unbeatable, i have a lot of his fights and he always gets hurt at some stage. Cotto has the ability to to win and would give Tszyu something to think about with his fast powerful combo's.

I would favour Tszyu but its a fight i'd be reluctant to bet on. I dont think Cotto has the best chance on the list like you so maybe you could explain your reasoning. :cool:

mayweathers the only one in that limited list. tszyu is intelligent and would have no problem adapting to anything mayweather comes up with. with floyd and his idiot dad theres possibitities of him shooting himself in the foot. altho he could get luckey.
Floyd's dad isnt his trainer, clown

spinks knocked judah down when he was completely off balance ...it was a legit knockdown but it wasnt becuase his chin was weak


haha jus messin wit u man
i know

wow the thing that shocks me about the poll is how many people believe in cotto...i didnt realise so many people believe in him...he is actually tied with floyd mayweather at this point.

wow the thing that shocks me about the poll is how many people believe in cotto...i didnt realise so many people believe in him...he is actually tied with floyd mayweather at this point.


...You should have had a none of the above option because I don't believe any of these guys or anyone else will beat Kostya unless he overstays his welcome. He whips all comers and retires on his own terms.

...You should have had a none of the above option because I don't believe any of these guys or anyone else will beat Kostya unless he overstays his welcome. He whips all comers and retires on his own terms.



i thought about that but that's too easy...i wanted people to think a little about each of these guys skills...it's just to easy to hit the none of the above button and dismiss the debate.

i thought about that but that's too easy...i wanted people to think a little about each of these guys skills...it's just to easy to hit the none of the above button and dismiss the debate.
Floyd is the better fighter so all of you who think that Zoo will just run through him is crazy

according to boxrec roger mayweather is floyds trainer. that isnt his dad who dlh hired as a yes man for a while because his other trainer was getting on his case for not training right?
Floyd's dad trains Oscar. Roger is Floyd's uncle and his dad's brother. Floyd's dad is a defensive trainer and his uncle is a offensive trainer. That's why he has become more offensive. Stop criticizing Floyd, the kid has mad skills and theres no way Zoo would just run threw him

I assume your talking about Tszyu

IMO Tszyu would win that fight, i think Cotto has brilliant skills but as a style's match Tszyu would be more effective.

Cotto has a hands up defensive style and i think Tszyu ability to switch his left from hook, jab or uppercut with such speed and power would cause Cotto problems, i also think Cotto open for the right uppercut and Tszyu lands a perfect body shot with the right which would trouble anyone.

Tszyu's a great fighter but he's not unbeatable, i have a lot of his fights and he always gets hurt at some stage. Cotto has the ability to to win and would give Tszyu something to think about with his fast powerful combo's.

I would favour Tszyu but its a fight i'd be reluctant to bet on. I dont think Cotto has the best chance on the list like you so maybe you could explain your reasoning. :cool:


Definently, Cotto has got fantastic skills, but he doesnt move enough. Kostya would take him out brutally because of that, but no, Kostya sure isnt invincible.

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Makes me laugh when Aussie's make debates about Tszyu into a international war, LMFAO because the only thing Aussie about Tszyu is his sun tan!! :D

If Tszyu shared the same level of respect for opponents as you did he'd get beat a lot more often, Maybe you forget its boxing and anything can happen.

I'm a big Tszyu fan but i'm not blind enough to think he has no faults, Hell even Lejia backed him up!

If you think the only thing aussie about KT is his sun tan maybe you should ask him what he considers himself! I suppose you consider Kylie to be a pom seeing you have her picture in your reply's?

I have nothing against English fighters, BUT, when it comes to Ricky Hatton the individual I don't believe he has the style to beat KT. He does not have the sideways movement to avoid the bombs that KT will land and he holds his left hand low opening him up to KT's favourite punch.

I keep hearing all about Hatton's presure and how he is going to wear KT out with body punches. What, do all you Hatton lovers think that KT is going to stand there and let Hatton rip away at his body for 5 rounds and then throw a punch? Hatton has been fighting guys who back themselves into the ropes and then let him have his way. KT is one of he most intelligent boxers in the world and probably goes into his fights better prepared than anyone in boxing. He is going to put the presure back on Hatton and then we'll see how he goes?

KT KO in 4, taht's if the fight actually happens after what his promoter has been carrying on with.

If you think the only thing aussie about KT is his sun tan maybe you should ask him what he considers himself! I suppose you consider Kylie to be a pom seeing you have her picture in your reply's?

I have nothing against English fighters, BUT, when it comes to Ricky Hatton the individual I don't believe he has the style to beat KT. He does not have the sideways movement to avoid the bombs that KT will land and he holds his left hand low opening him up to KT's favourite punch.

I keep hearing all about Hatton's presure and how he is going to wear KT out with body punches. What, do all you Hatton lovers think that KT is going to stand there and let Hatton rip away at his body for 5 rounds and then throw a punch? Hatton has been fighting guys who back themselves into the ropes and then let him have his way. KT is one of he most intelligent boxers in the world and probably goes into his fights better prepared than anyone in boxing. He is going to put the presure back on Hatton and then we'll see how he goes?

KT KO in 4, taht's if the fight actually happens after what his promoter has been carrying on with.

Maybe he doenst consider himself an aussie, maybe Russia's too cold and the only way to live somewhere hot is too pretend you want to change your nationality. I doubt thats the case but who knows what someone else thinks? Lets not debate his nationality anymore.

Tszyu's a great fighter but dont kid yourself into thinking its an easy fight, Hatton's shown no real weakness and many strengths.

You can mention Hatton having a low left but Tszyu's always open too the left hook to body or head, there Hattons best shots. The styles clash is interesting and it could go either way.

I favour Tszyu to win but i would be foolish to rule Hatton out.

Ok at this point Mayweather is ahead by one point over Cotto..unbelievable...alot of people believe in this kid Cotto...also surprising to me is the amount of people who think Hatton has a shot at Tszyu.

also surprising to me is the amount of people who think Hatton has a shot at Tszyu.Was it now, brit hater.:D

Was it now, brit hater.:D

HAHA lol. funniest **** i heard all day. how in the world did u find that topic?