I guess most everyone in the philipines must have forgotten that morales has never been knocked out.

I guess most everyone in the philipines must have forgotten that morales has never been knocked out.


There's always a first time for everything. Doesn't matter that a fighter has a steel chin. :D

thats true but everyone seems to guarantee a knockout. if this fight goes into the later rounds then i do think manny could have a chance of knocking out morales. if marquez took three of manny's best shots and still went the distance then i dont think morales should have a problem with that punch. which seems to be the only one manny throws. morales has a better chin then marquez and punches harder then barerra and marquez. something to think about.

You could also knock an opponent with exhaustion. So if Pac could press Morales with his faster pace, then he could get late in the rounds. But Morales could do the same, but Pac may be more effective because he's faster. So I see this fight late stoppage or UD.

Never really saw EM in major trouble either. A bit rocked, but never that bad. He must have a decent set of whiskers, but Manny can pop pretty good too. I never thought I would see MAB go down like he did, but he did. This is going to be one great fight!

morales has been in some tough ones and eventually enough tough fights will show, still think he's got enough this time

I guess most everyone in the philipines must have forgotten that morales has never been knocked out.

what we do remember is MANNY havin' like sledgehammer fists..

am not takin anythin' on el terible, such a great warrior..

but he hasn't faced a foe as powerful as PACMAN..

gonna be a great fight!!

you must not have seen barerra agaist junior jones. he got his ass whooped in that fight. if it goes into the later rounds manny has a better shot of a knockdown. but dont underestimate morales' heart manny has never been in there with as much heart as morales.

thats true but everyone seems to guarantee a knockout. if this fight goes into the later rounds then i do think manny could have a chance of knocking out morales. if marquez took three of manny's best shots and still went the distance then i dont think morales should have a problem with that punch. which seems to be the only one manny throws. morales has a better chin then marquez and punches harder then barerra and marquez. something to think about.

I really don't know if Pac will KO Morales...depends on Morales' heart coz one thing I'm guaranteeing is that EM will be knocked DOWN. It's Pac's trademark.
But it's also true that EM can Knock Pac...that's why it's going to be a great fight. Both fighters testing each other for the first time!
wwwwooooooottttt!!!!

thats one thing everyone can agree on is that this is going to be a great fight. early candidate for fight of the yr. they got styles that have classic written all over it. i just hope that there is no excuses after the fight from either camp.

thats one thing everyone can agree on is that this is going to be a great fight. early candidate for fight of the yr. they got styles that have classic written all over it. i just hope that there is no excuses after the fight from either camp.

I really hope we all don't get our hopes up and get let down. I thought DLH vs Hopkins would be good. I guess in this sport you can be let down real easy.

You ever notice that EM's expession doesn't change much?

thats true but everyone seems to guarantee a knockout. if this fight goes into the later rounds then i do think manny could have a chance of knocking out morales. if marquez took three of manny's best shots and still went the distance then i dont think morales should have a problem with that punch. which seems to be the only one manny throws. morales has a better chin then marquez and punches harder then barerra and marquez. something to think about.

The only reason Marquez got up is cuz he got hit with those power shots very early in the fight while he was still fresh. Had he gotten hit with those same punches late in the later rounds he would have been put to sleep. His training ultimately saved him from a 1st round ebarassment.

you must not have seen barerra agaist junior jones. he got his ass whooped in that fight. if it goes into the later rounds manny has a better shot of a knockdown. but dont underestimate morales' heart manny has never been in there with as much heart as morales.

Heart humbles you. Heart pushes you to train and to impose yourself on your opponent. Morales has more PRIDE than heart.

what are you talking about he did catch marquez in the later rounds with those same shots. but they didnt have a much on them. which means that manny power was fading. it was a combination of marquez countering and figuring out that manny relied too much on that punch. morales will not let up and he also will not underestimate manny's power.

yeah i had my hopes up for the de la hoya fight but not like i do for this fight because in oscar's last fight you could see that his mind was not really in boxing anymore. he has accomplished everything any one could want from the sport. he needs to hang them up and move on wife his life and his fine ass wife.

what are you talking about he did catch marquez in the later rounds with those same shots. but they didnt have a much on them. which means that manny power was fading. it was a combination of marquez countering and figuring out that manny relied too much on that punch. morales will not let up and he also will not underestimate manny's power.


if Morales gets KO for the first time, shall we call his chin as woody. no boxer has a steel chin. just wait for the fight. but i am very sure that this will be the bloodiest fight in the career of Morales. Pacman always bloodied up his opponents. that's for sure.

what are you talking about he did catch marquez in the later rounds with those same shots. but they didnt have a much on them. which means that manny power was fading. it was a combination of marquez countering and figuring out that manny relied too much on that punch. morales will not let up and he also will not underestimate manny's power.

Do me a favor and watch round 3 again when Pac hits JMM on the head and you hear a thud. You even see Manny grimmace and shake his left hand. You'll say excuses, I'll say injury. No chin imrpoves as the fight goes on.

And Morales WILL let up when he tries to slower the pace as he always does. It's Pac who don't let up. Human punching washing machine.

chin is def the biggest factor here
both guys hit hard
both guys like to striat up fight
so in a toe to toe war
theyll both be gettin hit
the difference will be there chins
and history is not on pacs side
hes been kd 2 and ko 2
and in lower wieghts with pressumabley lesser punches
while morales has only been kd once
and even then it was questionable

chin is def the biggest factor here
both guys hit hard
both guys like to striat up fight
so in a toe to toe war
theyll both be gettin hit
the difference will be there chins
and history is not on pacs side
hes been kd 2 and ko 2
and in lower wieghts with pressumabley lesser punches
while morales has only been kd once
and even then it was questionable

Pac was 18 when he last got KOed and that was from a body shot. The one before that with Torrecampo was a good shot but again he was so young back then and underdevelopped. All I know is that JMM and MAB, two guys with more than decent KO percentages coulnd't put Pac down at least once and Morales hasn't shown power in this weight as he did when he was at featherweight or superbantam. IMO, SPEED and RELENTLESNESS wil be the main factor.

if manny ko's morales i will be surprised. three of his best shots couldnt knock out marquez out. and his chin is not as good as morales. wait till manny feels morales power. he is going to be in a situation that he has not been in. the way he reacts to this situation will be the difference. because morales is not 3k or marquez. el terrible will let manny fall into his own trap.

i agree these guys are going to trade. thats for sure but i dont think manny cant take morales power. yes he took marquez shots but he is not known for his power so you knew that wasnt going to happen. barerra will wear you down then knock you out with constant punishment to the body. morales can punch harder then both of them.

i agree these guys are going to trade. thats for sure but i dont think manny cant take morales power. yes he took marquez shots but he is not known for his power so you knew that wasnt going to happen. barerra will wear you down then knock you out with constant punishment to the body. morales can punch harder then both of them.

There's only ONE punch that I see Morales' power in this weight and that's his uppercut. Other than that, he can't trully hurt Pac, unless its an accumulation of punches. Why so carzy about EM's power. Can't rememeber the last time he knocked someone out. Can't even KO Ayala.

if manny ko's morales i will be surprised. three of his best shots couldnt knock out marquez out. and his chin is not as good as morales. wait till manny feels morales power. he is going to be in a situation that he has not been in. the way he reacts to this situation will be the difference. because morales is not 3k or marquez. el terrible will let manny fall into his own trap.


the only guy who beat Morales twice is MAB. MAB didn't belong under Arum. Erik is really terrible in fighting those kids who belong in his own backyard.

its terrible for Erik to find out that its not only MAB who can beat him outside his backyard. Pacman will make him taste the canvass in a far worse fashion than the ones tasted by MAB and Marquez.

thats funny! tell me who has manny knocked out that was at the level of morales. i know what he did to barerra and how he couldnt finish marquez when he had three good opportunities in the first round come on man. someone with as much power as yall say manny has should be able to take out a hurt fighter. especially as hurt as yall make it seem marquez was.

if he has so much power marquez shouldnt have been able to get up from that punch. i guess we will find out in march just how hard he really punches. i might be wrong, but i doubt it.

uhmmm...so much is argued against manny for not killing off marquez...did MAB or EM ever grant JMM a match when he was calling out their names?

and what would they have gained in that fight. theres not alot of money involved in that fight.

I guess most everyone in the philipines must have forgotten that morales has never been knocked out.
__________________________________________________ ___________

Steel chin? really? literally? wow, that must have cost a lot to put it on him. wow. Don't worry,We will develop Manny's hand into a hammer, to pound that steel chin. peace. :eek: :D

Pacquiao is the kind of puncher that knocks fighters out that have never been knocked out.

damn really name on fighter that he has ko'd. i know he has knocked down mab.

manny does have that kind of power but morales is not the kind of fighter that gets knocked out. this is why i wished a rematch with barerra would have been done first so everyone could see that he wasnt 100% for that fight. then we wouldnt even dicussing manny and morales.

You have to really love boxing to know some of the fighter's he's ko'ed. Here are some:

Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym, gone in the first.
Jorge Eliecer Julio, former 2 division champ, gone in the second. First KO loss of career.
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, highly regarded african fighter. Gone in the 6th.
Chartchai Sasukal, knocked him out in the 4th to win the WBC Flyweight title.
Juan Manuel Marquez, never stopped in his career, down 3 times in the first.
Gave Marco Antonio Barrera the worst beating of his career for an 11th round TKO.

manny does have that kind of power but morales is not the kind of fighter that gets knocked out.
Daniel Zaragosa, Junior Jones, and Guty Espadas are not Manny Pacquiao.

this WILL be prince naseem hamed vs. MAB all over again.

morales by UAF.

morales by UAF.
I'm sorry, whats that in english?

Pacquiao is the kind of puncher that knocks fighters out that have never been knocked out.

I agree with you Asian...Manny will put Erik down manny times in this fight ultimately leading to a tko of some sort. Erik has little defense and will get hit with everything in the first four rounds...

When Morales fought Jesus Chavez he was certainly getting stung in the first round...I believe he was as hurt as he has ever been in that fight...obviously he came back to dominate but Manny's left will be uunlike anything Erik has ever seen...

Erik will get kayoed and although he is truly a great fighter this will finally put into context just how great Morales is...JMM is the only guy that can beat Manny, it isn't Erik and it obviously isn't MAB...JMM has the perfect combo of power, counterpunching, defense, chin, footwork, combos etc....MAB and ERik specialize in one or two things, JMM has the complete package...Morales and all of his fans will see!

Any bets?

would i have to be a real boxing fan or would i have to know that those guys are no tuneup fighters. but like i said he didnt ko'd barerra. and the same with marquez he dropped him but didnt ko him. manny has power and thats why he will knock down opponents and some with lesser chins he will knockout. but morales is higher in competition and really does have a good chin. there is a chance morales will get dropped. because manny does have some power

I'm sorry, whats that in english?

Unanimous Ass ****ing.

Great this fight is only 9 weeks away!

Barrera is a much better fighter than Morales. Morales always was a little shady to me because he seemed to avoid the big fights, and instead opted for the alphabelts. He could've easily gotten a fight with Casamayor or Corrales, but he instead took on Top Rank's Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez. Pacquiao, on the other hand, takes on Marquez in his first fight after Barrera. That says something, don't you think?

would i have to be a real boxing fan or would i have to know that those guys are no tuneup fighters. but like i said he didnt ko'd barerra. and the same with marquez he dropped him but didnt ko him. manny has power and thats why he will knock down opponents and some with lesser chins he will knockout. but morales is higher in competition and really does have a good chin. there is a chance morales will get dropped. because manny does have some power

Of course he Kayoed MAB, ok his corner stopped it, if they didn't MAB was going to be put in a body bag...that a ****ing kayo...Did Oscar KO Vargas? Sure the ref jumped in and if he didn't Vargas would be hanging out with the G-man...Manny's win over MAB was worse than a ko..it was a complete destruction!

Unanimous Ass ****ing.

Great this fight is only 9 weeks away!
I thought that was on the show after HBO Boxing. No wait, they cancelled Oz.

Barrera is a much better fighter than Morales. Morales always was a little shady to me because he seemed to avoid the big fights, and instead opted for the alphabelts. He could've easily gotten a fight with Casamayor or Corrales, but he instead took on Top Rank's Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernandez. Pacquiao, on the other hand, takes on Marquez in his first fight after Barrera. That says something, don't you think?

hell yeah, it says a lot. manny's doing great fuqqin' things here, no one since tito has been on this kinda championship tear. but all good things come to an end. morales is going to happen to manny like hopkins happened to tito. theres still no shame in getting humiliated by a great champion, 130'll be 2 much for pac - too ambitious.

actually feel sorry for the guy.

hell yeah, it says a lot. manny's doing great fuqqin' things here, no one since tito has been on this kinda championship tear. but all good things come to an end. morales is going to happen to manny like hopkins happened to tito. theres still no shame in getting humiliated by a great champion, 130'll be 2 much for pac - too ambitious.

actually feel sorry for the guy.

Still too early for Pacman to meet his Hopkins. Not this year. :p

When it's experience against experience, power against power, you need more variables. Southpaw stance and youth are going to be the deciding factors.

mab had to leave his training camp because of trouble in big bear and he had some health issues you dont think that affected him coming into the fight come on?

mab had to leave his training camp because of trouble in big bear and he had some health issues you dont think that affected him coming into the fight come on?
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses

Still too early for Pacman to meet his Hopkins. Not this year. :p

for manny's sake, i hope you're right.

but you're wrong. morales is where everything stops, manny'll set up shop at 126 after this fight and unify w/ marquez.

The way I see it, Manny is a grown man. I've said all I can say and had to say. Manny will do his talking March 19.

When it's experience against experience, power against power, you need more variables. Southpaw stance and youth are going to be the deciding factors.

asian, bet me that manny'll win, i'll take all my points and just equal it at fight time.

manny wins - you win

em wins - i win

simple as pie.

your right they are excuses. but i guess we will see in march if it was a good night for manny or a bad night for barerra cause if morales knocks manny out every one will know that it was a fluke. which i think it was

your right they are excuses. but i guess we will see in march if it was a good night for manny or a bad night for barerra cause if morales knocks manny out every one will know that it was a fluke. which i think it was
Was Junior Jones' 2 wins flukes against Barrera, or do styles make fights?

asian, bet me that manny'll win, i'll take all my points and just equal it at fight time.

manny wins - you win

em wins - i win

simple as pie.
You can't make me.

so if history is on your side are saying morales will do to manny what he did to junior jones. well then its going to be a long night for manny.

so if history is on your side are saying morales will do to manny what he did to junior jones. well then its going to be a long night for manny.
Don't **** around. I'm talking about Jones-Barrera I and II. Those wins were not flukes, they were legitimate victories.

look man come march you will see what im telling you. and its that manny isnt as good as you think he is. now if you want to get upset about it then thats on you!!

look man come march you will see what im telling you. and its that manny isnt as good as you think he is. now if you want to get upset about it then thats on you!!
What upset, you were ****ing up my flow with the stupid Junior Jones thing. I was on a roll, a roll!

You have to really love boxing to know some of the fighter's he's ko'ed. Here are some:

Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym, gone in the first.
Jorge Eliecer Julio, former 2 division champ, gone in the second. First KO loss of career.
Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, highly regarded african fighter. Gone in the 6th.
Chartchai Sasukal, knocked him out in the 4th to win the WBC Flyweight title.
Juan Manuel Marquez, never stopped in his career, down 3 times in the first.
Gave Marco Antonio Barrera the worst beating of his career for an 11th round TKO.

Wasn't it the 8th roudn for Sasakul?

Wasn't it the 8th roudn for Sasakul?
He still got him!

would i have to be a real boxing fan or would i have to know that those guys are no tuneup fighters. but like i said he didnt ko'd barerra. and the same with marquez he dropped him but didnt ko him. manny has power and thats why he will knock down opponents and some with lesser chins he will knockout. but morales is higher in competition and really does have a good chin. there is a chance morales will get dropped. because manny does have some power

Bro MAB would have gotten knock the **** out if it wasn't for his corner stopping the onslaught (spelling). He dropped him in the third, earliest he's eva been dropped. That alone is selfexplanatory of Pac's power.

He still got him!

lol Ain't that the truth yeaah boiiii

hell yeah, it says a lot. manny's doing great fuqqin' things here, no one since tito has been on this kinda championship tear. but all good things come to an end. morales is going to happen to manny like hopkins happened to tito. theres still no shame in getting humiliated by a great champion, 130'll be 2 much for pac - too ambitious.

actually feel sorry for the guy.

Nard was disciplined and his pride never affected his gameplan. While I do feel that Morales can box to a victory, he'll get tagged by Pac and his mexican pride would prompt him to trade with Manny. THAT'S teh difference.

The only reason Marquez got up is cuz he got hit with those power shots very early in the fight while he was still fresh. Had he gotten hit with those same punches late in the later rounds he would have been put to sleep. His training ultimately saved him from a 1st round ebarassment.
Your smart! He did get hit later in the fight just that the punches werent as strong as in the first round and Marquez wasnt cold anymore. If Manny doesnt Ko Morales in the first 5 which i doubt then Mannys getting Ko for cheezy! :D

Nard was disciplined and his pride never affected his gameplan. While I do feel that Morales can box to a victory, he'll get tagged by Pac and his mexican pride would prompt him to trade with Manny. THAT'S teh difference.

you think THAT'S teh difference

if manny ko's morales i will be surprised. three of his best shots couldnt knock out marquez out. and his chin is not as good as morales. wait till manny feels morales power. he is going to be in a situation that he has not been in. the way he reacts to this situation will be the difference. because morales is not 3k or marquez. el terrible will let manny fall into his own trap.
I definitely agree with you man. This fight is the kind of challenge EM wants. The kind he likes. If Manny gets discouraged and underestimates EM he better watch his ass out. EM isn't one to be looked over. He is smart and probably setting up a trap that will best suit him.

thats what im talking about morales is not just a fighter that will come to slug it out. i think the reason he did with barerra is because he didnt respect barerra power. but if he does that against manny he will get knocked out and he knows that. so expect a different fighter to come in on march and show all these haters that their boy is over rated.

Your smart! He did get hit later in the fight just that the punches werent as strong as in the first round and Marquez wasnt cold anymore. If Manny doesnt Ko Morales in the first 5 which i doubt then Mannys getting Ko for cheezy! :D

When you hurt your hand, how hard can you punch.

you think THAT'S teh difference

you know I'm right. And by the way, Morales aint no Hopkins.

thats what im talking about morales is not just a fighter that will come to slug it out. i think the reason he did with barerra is because he didnt respect barerra power. but if he does that against manny he will get knocked out and he knows that. so expect a different fighter to come in on march and show all these haters that their boy is over rated.

Who's hatin who man? I've had nothing for praise for Morales in the past. And in anycase, if Manny loses (which apparently is expected of him), why would people call him overrated. Sheesh you'd think he'd gain enough respect by being champ in 3 different divisions, destroying Barrera and duking it out with Marquez in one of teh most exciting matchup of 2004. If anybody's hat'n is yall Pac haters.

Who's hatin who man? I've had nothing for praise for Morales in the past. And in anycase, if Manny loses (which apparently is expected of him), why would people call him overrated. Sheesh you'd think he'd gain enough respect by being champ in 3 different divisions, destroying Barrera and duking it out with Marquez in one of teh most exciting matchup of 2004. If anybody's hat'n is yall Pac haters.


Coz they think MAB had a bad night. Every elite opponent Pac had, had a BAD night :D

Coz they think MAB had a bad night. Every elite opponent Pac had, had a BAD night :D

PFFFffff, he should have said he wore bad socks. That would have been more believable.

Morales has a steel chin?!!! He got rocked by Chavez and Chavez is a volume puncher not a KO artist. Morales was saved by the ropes and Chavez busting up his hand.

Morales will lose for all of the following reasons:
Pac is faster, he punches harder, his work rate is higher than Morales who likes to slow down the pace of the fight, pac is a southpaw, and youth is on his side.

Morales is the better boxer and is a rugged veteran but its not enough.

I was talking to two of my wife's Mexican co-workers(Barrera fans) who said that Erik is not that liked by many Mexicans. I was under the impression that Erik had as many, if not more, fans than Barrera. They told me that the Mexicans do not really believe the words of Morales anymore. Is there any truth to that?

Im a Mexican and my whole immidiate family was rooting for Morales. My cousin's immidiate family however was split straight down the middle.

I was talking to two of my wife's Mexican co-workers(Barrera fans) who said that Erik is not that liked by many Mexicans. I was under the impression that Erik had as many, if not more, fans than Barrera. They told me that the Mexicans do not really believe the words of Morales anymore. Is there any truth to that?


He does have as many if not more fans than MAB. Its just who you ask.

I guess my wife's work is full of Barrera fans because I was surprised to see that many of them wanted Pacquiao to win. They also think that Marquez would wipe the floor with Pacquiao come rematch time. It's funny that I thought they would be rooting for Morales just because he is Mexican but I they are loyal fans of Barrera because they told me they are for Pacquiao.

morales will win. plain and simple

I belive both have a very wide fan base . . . it's just that they are both Mexicans that mexican boxing fans are forced to be split and root for just one fighter.

i never really liked morales and ive always liked barrera. i just want morales to win cuz hes mexican. nothing racial but u always want your fighter to win.

[QUOTE=cheech306]i never really liked morales and ive always liked barrera. i just want morales to win cuz hes mexican. nothing racial but u always want your fighter to win.[/QUOTE

I KNOW A COUPLE OF MEXICANS THAT SEE HIM ON A DAILY BASIS AND DONT LIKE HIM. THEY SAY HE ACTS LIKE U R TRYING TO TAKE HIS MONEY OR SOME **** AND TALKS TO MUCH ****.BUT LIKE CHEECH SAID IM GOING FOR MY COUNTRY MAN NO MATTER WHAT.

QUE VIVA MEXICO! HIJOS DE MARIA MORALES!!!

^^^ditto

I'd like Pacquiao to win 'cuz he's Pinoy.

But between Morales and Barrera, I'm for the Baby-Faced Assassin. I lost my respect for El Terrible when he threw water on the face of MAB's father when MAB tried to shake EM's hand after the fight.http://forum.marcobarrera.com/Smileys/all/nono.gif

Morales will lose for all of the following reasons:
Pac is faster, he punches harder, his work rate is higher than Morales who likes to slow down the pace of the fight, pac is a southpaw, and youth is on his side.

Morales is the better boxer and is a rugged veteran but its not enough.


Posts like this (sorry to single this one out floyd) make me a bit angry. Outside of his "speed and power", which are always the so-called deciding factors in a Pac fight, Pacquiao does little to nothing better than Morales. Neither guy is a defensive wizard. Morales does however box better than Pac when he decides to box, he has a better chin, he throws multiple punches from different angles, he's more ring savvy and experienced at his current weight, and he can shift gears in a fight better than Pacquiao. The age difference that everyone speaks of is also very slight.

Anyway, to say that Morales is just a rugged veteran is definitely overlooking his abilities. He rarely looks blatantly bad in a fight outside of MAB...and he knows exactly how he will pick his opponent apart once he steps in that ring.

Please remind me which one of these two has been KO'ed TWICE.

I respect MAB.

Please remind me which one of these two has been KO'ed TWICE.

Pac, dya forget?!?

Please remind me which one of these two has been KO'ed TWICE.
WAS IT THE GUY THAT GOT HIT BY A JAB FROM ONE OF SADAMS FAMILY MEMBERS AND WAS GIVEN ABOUT 13 SECONDS TO GET UP OF THE CANVAS?LOOK AT THE PICTURE THIS IS THE AFTERMATH OF THAT JAB.DONT FORGET TO SMILE!! :D

Posts like this (sorry to single this one out floyd) make me a bit angry. Outside of his "speed and power", which are always the so-called deciding factors in a Pac fight, Pacquiao does little to nothing better than Morales. Neither guy is a defensive wizard. Morales does however box better than Pac when he decides to box, he has a better chin, he throws multiple punches from different angles, he's more ring savvy and experienced at his current weight, and he can shift gears in a fight better than Pacquiao. The age difference that everyone speaks of is also very slight.

Anyway, to say that Morales is just a rugged veteran is definitely overlooking his abilities. He rarely looks blatantly bad in a fight outside of MAB...and he knows exactly how he will pick his opponent apart once he steps in that ring.

So you think he wont be sucked into tarding og?

Pac, dya forget?!?


Oh ok thanks for that.

I hate to bother, but does anyone know which one of these two struggled badly and tried to quit against Agapito Sanchez?

Im sorry, It's just my boxing knowledge is a little rusty this evening.

When you hurt your hand, how hard can you punch.
TRUE U SAW HOW HARD HEADED MARQUEZ WAS. HE WOULDNT STAY DOWN.MAYBE CAUSE THEY WERE FLASH KNOCK DOWNS AND NOT KO PUNCHES.THEN AGAIN HOW GOOD CAN U BREATH WITH A BROKEN NOSE THE WHOLE FIGHT?

So you think he wont be sucked into tarding og?

He's never "sucked" into trading with anyone ever besides Barerra maybe. I think he knows full well when he wants to get in, mix it up and brawl. With Barerra it's different because he hates the ****er. I think if we see Erik brawling with Pac, he'll be quite confident and won't be put down as easily as Pac supporters think.

Oh ok thanks for that.

I hate to bother, but does anyone know which one of these two struggled badly and tried to quit against Agapito Sanchez?

Im sorry, It's just my boxing knowledge is a little rusty this evening.

It was Morales



















Oh wait no...no it wasn't it was Pacquiao sorry about that.

TRUE U SAW HOW HARD HEADED MARQUEZ WAS. HE WOULDNT STAY DOWN.MAYBE CAUSE THEY WERE FLASH KNOCK DOWNS AND NOT KO PUNCHES.THEN AGAIN HOW GOOD CAN U BREATH WITH A BROKEN NOSE THE WHOLE FIGHT?

if it was KO punches, we wouldnt be arguing. But 3 FLASH knockdowns WOW! Lighting must strike 3 times at the same spot.

Oh ok thanks for that.

I hate to bother, but does anyone know which one of these two struggled badly and tried to quit against Agapito Sanchez?

Im sorry, It's just my boxing knowledge is a little rusty this evening.

Well sanchez threw more low blows than punches so if that's struggling against him then it was Pac! :)

He's never "sucked" into trading with anyone ever besides Barerra maybe. I think he knows full well when he wants to get in, mix it up and brawl. With Barerra it's different because he hates the ****er. I think if we see Erik brawling with Pac, he'll be quite confident and won't be put down as easily as Pac supporters think.

It's Erik's pride that I think would proppel him to trade. And I really dont think he'd get put down easy. I do think he'll get put down :)

Glad to see that the Mexicans are on the side of their man as it should be. As a fan of Mexican fighters for awhile now but not againts Pacquiao. It will make the fight that more interesting. I respect both Morales and MAB and even JMM(even though he backed out). But I've seen Pac break the racial barrier as some of the Mexicans I know are for Pac againts Morales.

WAS IT THE GUY THAT GOT HIT BY A JAB FROM ONE OF SADAMS FAMILY MEMBERS AND WAS GIVEN ABOUT 13 SECONDS TO GET UP OF THE CANVAS?LOOK AT THE PICTURE THIS IS THE AFTERMATH OF THAT JAB.DONT FORGET TO SMILE!! :D

well I know for a fact that it wasn't the guy who got beat twice by a fighter that Pac destroyed.

It's Erik's pride that I think would proppel him to trade. And I really dont think he'd get put down easy. I do think he'll get put down :)


I've never seen a clear spot in a fight other than a MAB fight where his pride just consumed him and forced him to recklessly trade with another fighter.

I've never seen a clear spot in a fight other than a MAB fight where his pride just consumed him and forced him to recklessly trade with another fighter.

Maybe if he gets hit very hard by a smaller fighter. In any case, in teh middle of teh ring I'd take Morales. But Erik fighting under pressure, he gets flustered. He's horrible when he's being backed up.

if it was KO punches, we wouldnt be arguing. But 3 FLASH knockdowns WOW! Lighting must strike 3 times at the same spot.
DUDE U KILLED IT! :cool:

well I know for a fact that it wasn't the guy who got beat twice by a fighter that Pac destroyed.
NO HE HAS LOST TWICE. ONE ROBBED IN PAC LAND AND THE OTHER TO OSCAR LARIOS.

DUDE U KILLED IT! :cool:

lol I'll take that as a light moment :)

The only reason Marquez got up is cuz he got hit with those power shots very early in the fight while he was still fresh. Had he gotten hit with those same punches late in the later rounds he would have been put to sleep. His training ultimately saved him from a 1st round ebarassment.

And he was hit goin backwards. If he got caught going in (Like EM sometimes does). he'll not get up.

And he was hit goin backwards. If he got caught going in (Like EM sometimes does). he'll not get up.

Very true. Didn't even think of that. I've never seen a guy who is prone to get hit with a 1-2 as much as Morales. Tall, immobile head and a hawk nose, what more can you ask for . lol :D

^^^ditto

I'd like Pacquiao to win 'cuz he's Pinoy.

But between Morales and Barrera, I'm for the Baby-Faced Assassin. I lost my respect for El Terrible when he threw water on the face of MAB's father when MAB tried to shake EM's hand after the fight.http://forum.marcobarrera.com/Smileys/all/nono.gif

i'm also a big mab fan and i have great respect for erik...but you gotta love your own...just like you guys...in a way we are all the same in this aspect. btw: i like barrera better than erik. paz.

A big MAB fan here too...will root for him except only when fighting Pac.

Morales' steel chin will be his problem. Why? I'm gonna answer this using Pacquiao as an example.

Before fighting MAB, Pacquiao is considered with a "glass" chin. That he could be knocked out by jabs. Perhaps MAB also thought so. And he was dead wrong about that.

During that fight, Pacquiao unleashed every type of arsenal ranging from unpredictable right crosses (because he does not lunge it), uppercuts, hooks to the body. You name it. Pac used it.

Thus, Pac found out that he is not really "glass" chinned. In fact, he can take some flush power shots and won't even wobble. Perhaps because of his gain in weight. We don't know. But one thing's for sure. Pac forgot to use some of his arsenals because he can take JMM's flush power shots.

Now, why do you think Morales couldn't help himself out from trying to slug it out? Answer: Because he has a steel chin.

The problem though is, Morales has a steel chin under a very thin skin that gets easily bruised. Plus, his nose would be a magnet for Pac's quick power shots.

[QUOTE=cheech306]i never really liked morales and ive always liked barrera. i just want morales to win cuz hes mexican. nothing racial but u always want your fighter to win.[/QUOTE

I KNOW A COUPLE OF MEXICANS THAT SEE HIM ON A DAILY BASIS AND DONT LIKE HIM. THEY SAY HE ACTS LIKE U R TRYING TO TAKE HIS MONEY OR SOME **** AND TALKS TO MUCH ****.BUT LIKE CHEECH SAID IM GOING FOR MY COUNTRY MAN NO MATTER WHAT.

QUE VIVA MEXICO! HIJOS DE MARIA MORALES!!!

who u talkin bout morales?

Morales by KO, and retires a game Pacman just like MAB retired Prince Hammed.

Morales is a piece of ****
Barrera tried so many times to try n become friends
Morales has tha most arrogant additude i hope Pacquiao beeats tha livin **** out him
if he wants to bang it out with pacman
he will go down!
I hope he loses so bad n gets embarrassed n will not try n be ****y again, Barrera clearly beat him, no way morales was robbed, Barrera gave him a handshake and morales throws water at him ya right
Morales says he lost cuz he had a bad night
i guess DLH lost to hopkins cuz he had a bad night
Hearns lost to Hagler cuz he had a bad night
hamed lost to barrera cuz he had a bad night


damn quit using that stupid excuse if u could've shook barreras hand and show respect and admit u lost fair and square.

Then maybe u could've got a rematch, and i would respect u and same with tha other few million people

I am a big MAB, EM fan but I'm a bigger PAC fan. I respect EM's boxing skills, his ring record and his business skills but as a person right after the MAB fight,Morales sucks!

MAL EDUCADO!!!! I did'nt say that. MAB did.

I am a big MAB, EM fan but I'm a bigger PAC fan. I respect EM's boxing skills, his ring record and his business skills but as a person right after the MAB fight,Morales sucks!

MAL EDUCADO!!!! I did'nt say that. MAB did.


i like that my friend

down with MORALES

Im so tired of hearing all that bull**** about MAB being such a nice guy.

MAB is the one who started the fued with Morales. Oh im sorry was MAB trying to "become friends" when he sucker punched Morales at the press conference for the 2nd fight?

Im so tired of hearing all that bull**** about MAB being such a nice guy.

MAB is the one who started the fued with Morales. Oh im sorry was MAB trying to "become friends" when he sucker punched Morales at the press conference for the 2nd fight?
ya
mab serioulsy milks that whole nice guy image for all its worth
he does hit low alot
i was first noticed it in the hamed fight
but since i was rooten for him
i was like o well
then ive gotten a chance to see other of his previous fights
and same thing
maybe its cuz he likes to go to the body
but he just does it alot
but know one ever thinks its on purpose cuz hes such a nice guy

but back to morales
the thing i love most about him
other then his extreme boxing and fighten abiblity
is what most dont like him for
his undyin arrogance
guess its u either love em or hate em for it
and def love it

and whys everyone assume tha MABs dad was only goin over to shake hands
maybe he said something to him
his son had just "beat" him again
im sure he was gloaten or somethin
either way
i love em

Morales is rude, remember when he didn't shake barrera's hand and threw a water bottle at him...that was ****ed up...i don't like Morales

EM has a SOLID STEEL CHIN . . . but PAC IS THE ONE!

Superman died a long time ago . . . but Neo comes along . . .

forget my crap . . . I love both guyz! The two are both winners and legitimate elite warriors . .this is an eye for an eye . . tooth for a tooth type of battle . . .

I love to see them both kiss the canvass . . .and that make us fans a clear Winner . .

my fearless forecast . . its ****ing DRAW . . .

no draw.. this is ending in knockout. i see pac on the floor..

I guess most everyone in the philipines must have forgotten that morales has never been knocked out.


Pacman will dig his chin out. lol. He will be the "The Unterrible" morales after the fight. :D

no draw.. this is ending in knockout. i see pac on the floor..

ur gifted man . . ****ing gifted . . whatever!

i have seen the PAC-EM presser and both fighters Manny and Erick were respectful of each other ...

I respect MAB & EM, but i like MAB more than EM, I won a few bets on
MAB-EM 3...

so HOMBRES stick with your man and most of us PINOYS if not all will stick with our man, THE FIGHT IS ON ...

VIVA MEXICO - - - MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS

ur gifted man . . ****ing gifted . . whatever!

soo.. whats your point?

morales by KO!

Im so tired of hearing all that bull**** about MAB being such a nice guy.

MAB is the one who started the fued with Morales. Oh im sorry was MAB trying to "become friends" when he sucker punched Morales at the press conference for the 2nd fight?

Yo Jose, suppose somebody right in your face tell you that you're a maricon, what would you do?

Don't get piss, I said EM sucks right at that very public moment but I don't think he sucks every minute of the day just like any of us here. He is a public figure and that's the reason people can see his mistake when he does it in public and those people don't even know about the press con scuffle.

thats one thing everyone can agree on is that this is going to be a great fight. early candidate for fight of the yr. they got styles that have classic written all over it. i just hope that there is no excuses after the fight from either camp.


Yeah...this will surely be a great fight and may the best man win.

Roach wants Manny to come out fully with guns blazing in the opening round. If he maintains the pace and I'm sure he will as he will have the same time to prepare as he did vs Barrera, then I see Morales wearing down for a late KO or heck, Manny seems to be so strong now that it could be an early KO. Hmmm.

Morales by KO, and retires a game Pacman just like MAB retired Prince Hammed.

with only 21 posts, this guy is doing good things.

i'm tellin' ya'll - em will be to pac what mab was to hamed.

su conquistador - we all know about that, spics and flips.

I just simply believe that Morales has the edge on overall skills, but at the same time I believe Pac's power, speed and relentless attack would be too much for Morales to handle. This is not to mention Pac's improving boxing skill.

Win or lose, Morales for me is already a Hall of Famer, he is just facing a fighter now that can beat him outside Barrera.

it is quite disappointing thatc manny is compared to prince hammed... hammed was a show-off, a hit and run fighter... manny isn't... he's all business and fights with whoever he faces toe-to-toe... i respect morales, never been knocked-down, but there's always a first time, right? and that first time is going to be on march 19th... manny will be starting with guns blazing from the first round, so morales will be dealth another big loss... he was puffing hard when hje fought barrera, and as early as the middle rounds, he was already catching his breath... how much more with manny? he'll be prepared big time for morales and will be the same relentless pacquiao in the barrera fight... i'm sorry amigos, but a Filipino will break your latino hearts...

Morales' steel chin will "melt" on March 19!!! Pacman's flaming punching power will definitely do the job, after which Morales will be the one to be compared to the one who hailed himself "Prince"...

______________________

"...his heart will defy any king in the ring."

Pacquiao better be cafeful about EM's versatility, wile and ability to take a punch. EM may be at the downside of his career but he is still one of the most complete fighters out there. He can dish out his punishment while backpedalling. He can also take a hard punch.

I still see Manny via late KO, otherwise, if he gets too reckless, EM will see a good opening and might send Manny's gameplan backfire.

Pacquiao better be cafeful about EM's versatility, wile and ability to take a punch...

I still see Manny via late KO, otherwise, if he gets too reckless, EM will see a good opening and might send Manny's gameplan backfire.

he may have received a number of punches and yet stood as the victor, but has El Terrible ever taken a real punch? a single power punch? roy jones could be the biggest example.the reality in boxing: the best boxer is always at risk to the best puncher. Pacman will knock Morales out in the 6th...

__________________________

"... his heart will defy any king in the ring."

he may have received a number of punches and yet stood as the victor, but has El Terrible ever taken a real punch? a single power punch? roy jones could be the biggest example.the reality in boxing: the best boxer is always at risk to the best puncher. Pacman will knock Morales out in the 6th...

__________________________

"... his heart will defy any king in the ring."


what the hell are you talking about!? of course he has!! how do u get this far and not take a real punch? oh wait a minute, only manny's punches count right? gimme a break.. that just shows you that u already underestimate erik.

Se lo va a cargar la riata al pacman. :D
Pac does NOT know the kind of trouble EM will bring to him. Morales is desperate to show he can beat the man that humilliated MAB, this is gonna be an early KO a la Junior Jones! :eek:

All Mexicans have good chins..

All Mexicans have good chins..

yeah...just like lucero's... :D

what the hell are you talking about!? of course he has!! how do u get this far and not take a real punch? oh wait a minute, only manny's punches count right? gimme a break.. that just shows you that u already underestimate erik.

don't worry he'll go down for sure...whether against manny or whoever...but he will...some of his wins were suspects...he may not be the man we thought him to be...but he was definitely one of the best fighters around 1 or 2 years ago.

I really don't know if Pac will KO Morales...depends on Morales' heart coz one thing I'm guaranteeing is that EM will be knocked DOWN. It's Pac's trademark.
But it's also true that EM can Knock Pac...that's why it's going to be a great fight. Both fighters testing each other for the first time!
wwwwooooooottttt!!!!
yeah man...manny's trademark is to devastate and wipe out his opponents, if he can..i hope he'll do the same to morales. :D

Too bad if Manny wins, people would be calling Morales shot and overrated. It sickens me that a fighter would never recieve the recognition he deserves.

Too bad if Manny wins, people would be calling Morales shot and overrated. It sickens me that a fighter would never recieve the recognition he deserves.


No we'll just blame his socks for Erik not getting the job done.

No we'll just blame his socks for Erik not getting the job done.
lol funny ****.

No we'll just blame his socks for Erik not getting the job done.

yea its gotta be the socks. i mean.. cmon without a good pair a socks u already lost the fight.

Morales wont be able to go toe-to-toe with Pacman.

Se lo va a cargar la riata al pacman. :D
Pac does NOT know the kind of trouble EM will bring to him. Morales is desperate to show he can beat the man that humilliated MAB, this is gonna be an early KO a la Junior Jones! :eek:

well if he is desperate to beat the man who beat barrera, he is going into the same hole he went into when he faced MAB. he was too emotional and was "desperate" to beat marco, and what did he get? a sorry loss... boxing is great among rivalries, but when fighters take into personal level, it just does not finisih the job...

yea its gotta be the socks. i mean.. cmon without a good pair a socks u already lost the fight.

well if you are a moron you will surely blame everything to the pair of socks... manny's greatest asset is speed and agility, other than his left hand power punch... so having a poor quality pair of socks would really give him blisters and have immediate effect on his agility... i think we know how a blister hurts our style of play... i'm a manny fan but was disgusted when he told us that he was not able to buy good pair os socks before the fight, it was just non-sense... but for what it's worth, he did finish the fight in almost classic way.