View Full Version : Dumbest Media Created Panic EVER......


LuKahnLi
01-12-2005, 09:43 AM
What is the stupidest threat to your safety that the media has EVER reported on?

Remember in the summer 2002 all the media outlets were talking about a supposed increase in shark attacks off the coast of the US? Even though it wasn't true that shark attacks had increased?

kepsy
01-12-2005, 09:57 AM
Y2K......
shortage of bottled water
and home depot sold out of generators... lol

Explosivo
01-12-2005, 10:30 AM
I think SARS went a little overboard considering the amount of people who die from the flu each year.

Speaking of the flu, what about the scare this year about there not being enough vaciene? Do we know if we had more deaths this year compared to others?

LuKahnLi
01-12-2005, 10:33 AM
I think SARS went a little overboard considering the amount of people who die from the flu each year.

Speaking of the flu, what about the scare this year about there not being enough vaciene? Do we know if we had more deaths this year compared to others?

Flu shots don't work anyways.

Bombardier
01-12-2005, 11:13 AM
The whole flu thing is the most overhyped news story of recent times, and I even think I would include the threat of Iraq using WMDs on this list. Here in Canada the amount of coverage on SARS was ridiculous. About a dozen people died, but the average age of these people was literally like 85. Thing is any flu would have killed them, probably, along with any number of things.

The medical professionals trying to scare us with stories of flu epidemics are doing the world a great disservice. They keep bringing up the Spanish flu of 1918 (which, indicentally, had nothing to do with Spain) without bringing up the fact that most people died then because other other maladies (the flu only weakend them, making them suseceptible to TB and other stuff we don't have to worry so much about anymore). Flu shots don't work and are bad for children, despite what they tell you. Plus, they work for maybe three flus. The big flu that hit last year wasn't even covered.

I don't know if doctors are making money off of flu shots or what. I don't even see a family doctor anymore because they're all such vaccine fascists. Dentists are all crooks too, incidentally. Don't get me started on the whole wisdom tooth thing.

Mr. Ryan
01-12-2005, 01:48 PM
In 2002, more people were killed shaking vending machines than by sharks. I wanted to see the 60 Minutes on the Killer Vending Machines, only they never made one.

jabsRstiff
01-12-2005, 01:58 PM
In 2002, more people were killed shaking vending machines than by sharks. I wanted to see the 60 Minutes on the Killer Vending Machines, only they never made one.

LMAO !

There are some bad-ass, no-****-takin' vending machines out there.

Mr. Ryan
01-12-2005, 01:59 PM
LMAO !

There are some bad-ass, no-****-takin' vending machines out there.
You can't make up this kind of ****.

Dyl-G
01-12-2005, 06:09 PM
i think the funniest one was the VOTE OR DIE campaign, but statistically the amount of teens that voted didnt change at all. lol sad, why are you trying to cool people into voting

tracylee
01-12-2005, 06:21 PM
Flu shots don't work anyways.

I agree with this...I've never, ever had the flu..not even once, but everyone I know that get's those shot's relegiously every year get sick as a dog the following day. Why bother?? Maybe for the sick (terminally or whatever) and the elderly..but not everyone else! There's no way in hell I'd ever take one myself :eek:

LuKahnLi
01-12-2005, 06:40 PM
i think the funniest one was the VOTE OR DIE campaign, but statistically the amount of teens that voted didnt change at all. lol sad, why are you trying to cool people into voting

That is misleading. Numbers wise FAR more young people voted in this election than in any in the past two decades.

The reason the statistics did not change is because MORE people voted in general. More young people DID vote in this election

LuKahnLi
01-12-2005, 06:43 PM
I agree with this...I've never, ever had the flu..not even once, but everyone I know that get's those shot's relegiously every year get sick as a dog the following day. Why bother?? Maybe for the sick (terminally or whatever) and the elderly..but not everyone else! There's no way in hell I'd ever take one myself :eek:

I had it once. A couple weeks ago. That is the first time in like 5 years.

The only reason I caught it was because I was watching LOTR: Return of The King in the same room as a younger cousin who WAS sick and hacking like Doc Holliday but wouldn't cover his damn mouth.

tracylee
01-12-2005, 06:46 PM
I had it once. A couple weeks ago. That is the first time in like 5 years.

The only reason I caught it was because I was watching LOTR: Return of The King in the same room as a younger cousin who WAS sick and hacking like Doc Holliday but wouldn't cover his damn mouth.

I guess I've been very lucky in that regard ;) I've had bronchitis, stomach viruses, etc..but never the flu. My kid SO FAR has never had it either..shes only 11, but I hope she turns out like me where the flu is concerned..may sound stupid, but I can hope! :o :)

LuKahnLi
01-12-2005, 06:50 PM
I guess I've been very lucky in that regard ;) I've had bronchitis, stomach viruses, etc..but never the flu. My kid SO FAR has never had it either..shes only 11, but I hope she turns out like me where the flu is concerned..may sound stupid, but I can hope! :o :)

Not stupid at all. As long as you keep yourself healthy overall, you don't need to worry about that ****.

One thing I do, that may not work for many. Whenever I get a fever, I sit in the shower or bath for about half an hour or so with water as hot as I can bear. This makes the fever worse, but the next day, provided I had a good night's sleep, I am 100% better.

Too many people think a fever is a symptom of the illness, so they take drugs to try to reduce it. This is WRONG. The fever is the body's way of killing the illness.

tracylee
01-12-2005, 07:16 PM
Not stupid at all. As long as you keep yourself healthy overall, you don't need to worry about that ****.

One thing I do, that may not work for many. Whenever I get a fever, I sit in the shower or bath for about half an hour or so with water as hot as I can bear. This makes the fever worse, but the next day, provided I had a good night's sleep, I am 100% better.

Too many people think a fever is a symptom of the illness, so they take drugs to try to reduce it. This is WRONG. The fever is the body's way of killing the illness.

sounds like youre forcing your fever to break, which ends up getting rid of it..not a bad idea if it works.
I agree that a fever is not just a symptom; its your body's way of fighting off infection, etc. I tell my daughter the same thing about diarrhea..that sometimes it's necessary to let it run it's course..it's her body's way of getting rid of something nasty (like a virus, infection, etc..). That doesnt make her feel any better about dealing with it, but she understands tha we shouldnt always make an effort to make it stop, not right away anyway ;)

neils7147933
01-12-2005, 07:17 PM
when you're running up a ladder and you hear something splatter...

tracylee
01-12-2005, 07:19 PM
when you're running up a ladder and you hear something splatter...

I know, I know, its a gross subject, but true nonetheless. I just dont let her run up any ladders during all that :D

neils7147933
01-12-2005, 07:21 PM
When you're eating your sherbert and you hear something squirt...

tracylee
01-12-2005, 07:29 PM
When you're eating your sherbert and you hear something squirt...

Now thats just plain nasty!

neils7147933
01-12-2005, 07:48 PM
when you're jumping up and down but your pants are wet and brown...

kepsy
01-12-2005, 08:03 PM
when you're jumping up and down but your pants are wet and brown...
lmao.... keep it coming man. dat gets karma.... for whatever its worth now.

borikua
01-12-2005, 08:03 PM
What about the african killer bees!

dodge
01-12-2005, 08:54 PM
The razorblades in the apples at Holloween. It never happened.

JOM'S
01-13-2005, 01:14 AM
guys who are old enough to know this, feel free to correct this ...

I dont know if i get this right Olsen Wells announcement of War of the Worlds during the 60 or 70??? created some hysteria, that is what i have seen in an old gossip mags...

neils7147933
01-13-2005, 04:50 AM
guys who are old enough to know this, feel free to correct this ...

I dont know if i get this right Olsen Wells announcement of War of the Worlds during the 60 or 70??? created some hysteria, that is what i have seen in an old gossip mags...

http://www.transparencynow.com/welles.htm

War of the Worlds, Orson Welles,
And The Invasion from Mars

The ability to confuse audiences en masse may have first become obvious as a result of one of the most infamous mistakes in history. It happened the day before Halloween, on Oct. 30, 1938, when millions of Americans tuned in to a popular radio program that featured plays directed by, and often starring, Orson Welles. The performance that evening was an adaptation of the science fiction novel The War of the Worlds, about a Martian invasion of the earth. But in adapting the book for a radio play, Welles made an important change: under his direction the play was written and performed so it would sound like a news broadcast about an invasion from Mars, a technique that, presumably, was intended to heighten the dramatic effect.

As the play unfolded, dance music was interrupted a number of times by fake news bulletins reporting that a "huge flaming object" had dropped on a farm near Grovers Mill, New Jersey. As members of the audience sat on the edge of their collective seat, actors playing news announcers, officials and other roles one would expect to hear in a news report, described the landing of an invasion force from Mars and the destruction of the United States. The broadcast also contained a number of explanations that it was all a radio play, but if members of the audience missed a brief explanation at the beginning, the next one didn't arrive until 40 minutes into the program.

At one point in the broadcast, an actor in a studio, playing a newscaster in the field, described the emergence of one of the aliens from its spacecraft. "Good heavens, something's wriggling out of the shadow like a gray snake," he said, in an appropriately dramatic tone of voice. "Now it's another one, and another. They look like tentacles to me. There, I can see the thing's body. It's large as a bear and it glistens like wet leather. But that face. It...it's indescribable. I can hardly force myself to keep looking at it. The eyes are black and gleam like a serpent. The mouth is V-shaped with saliva dripping from its rimless lips that seem to quiver and pulsate....The thing is raising up. The crowd falls back. They've seen enough. This is the most extraordinary experience. I can't find words. I'm pulling this microphone with me as I talk. I'll have to stop the description until I've taken a new position. Hold on, will you please, I'll be back in a minute."

As it listened to this simulation of a news broadcast, created with voice acting and sound effects, a portion of the audience concluded that it was hearing an actual news account of an invasion from Mars. People packed the roads, hid in cellars, loaded guns, even wrapped their heads in wet towels as protection from Martian poison gas, in an attempt to defend themselves against aliens, oblivious to the fact that they were acting out the role of the panic-stricken public that actually belonged in a radio play. Not unlike Stanislaw Lem's deluded populace, people were stuck in a kind of virtual world in which fiction was confused for fact.

News of the panic (which was conveyed via genuine news reports) quickly generated a national scandal. There were calls, which never went anywhere, for government regulations of broadcasting to ensure that a similar incident wouldn't happen again. The victims were also subjected to ridicule, a reaction that can commonly be found, today, when people are taken in by simulations. A cartoon in the New York World-Telegram, for example, portrayed a character who confuses the simulations of the entertainment industry with reality. In one box, the character is shown trying to stick his hand into the radio to shake hands with Amos n' Andy. In another, he reports to a police officer that there is "Black magic!!! There's a little wooden man -- Charlie McCarthy -- and he's actually talking!"

In a prescient column, in the New York Tribune, Dorothy Thompson foresaw that the broadcast revealed the way politicians could use the power of mass communications to create theatrical illusions, to manipulate the public.

"All unwittingly, Mr. Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater of the Air have made one of the most fascinating and important demonstrations of all time," she wrote. "They have proved that a few effective voices, accompanied by sound effects, can convince masses of people of a totally unreasonable, completely fantastic proposition as to create a nation-wide panic.

"They have demonstrated more potently than any argument, demonstrated beyond a question of a doubt, the appalling dangers and enormous effectiveness of popular and theatrical demagoguery....

"Hitler managed to scare all of Europe to its knees a month ago, but he at least had an army and an air force to back up his shrieking words.

"But Mr. Welles scared thousands into demoralization with nothing at all."

In the 1950s, America had another taste of the power that simulations have, to draw people into a world of delusional fantasy, when paired with mass communications. This time it was revealed that a number of television game shows were simulations, in which contestants who knew the answers ahead of time were pretending to guess at their responses. But unlike the invasion from Mars, here the fakery was unambiguously intentional; it was the work of producers who had concluded they could create fictional game shows that would be more exciting than the real thing.

Once again, there was a shocked reaction from the public. Once again, those involved became objects of public anger. And, as happened with the Orson Welles broadcast, an effort was made to ensure that such manipulations wouldn't recur.

But in 1990, it happened again. Audiences around the world discovered that they were taken in by the ultimate Hollywood illusion in which two performers faked their own talent, lip-syncing, to create the impression they were singing. What millions of fans had believed were two talented singers was actually a composite, another seamless interweaving of sensory simulations in which two people provided the visuals, while vocalists provided the audio.

As in the previous two instances, there was a stunned response. But unlike the experience of 1938 or even the 1950s, the social context was different because simulations had become commonplace, and attempts to use them to trick the public were the rule rather than the exception. Also by this time, a global culture had developed, which meant that tens of millions of people around the world were drawn into the same illusion.

One might say that War of the Worlds and the game show scandal foreshadowed the age of simulation that was still to come. Allowing for a little poetic overstatement, the Milli Vanilli scandal served as a rite of passage or symbolic marker, making clear that we now live in an age of simulation confusion in which our tendency to mistake fakes for what they imitate has become one of the characteristic problems of the age.

More to the point, we live in a time in which the ability to create deceptive simulations, especially for television, has become essential to the exercise of power. And the inability to see through these deceptions has become a form of powerlessness. Those who let themselves be taken in by the multiple deceptions of politics, news, advertising and public relations, are doomed, like the more gullible members of the radio audience in 1938, to play a role in other people's dramas, while mistakenly believing that they are reacting to something genuine.

Soundtraveler
01-13-2005, 04:52 AM
Well, I don't know about mass panic, but the danger from sharks is real here on the Gulf Coast my friends, lots of sharks in these warm waters. I see them everytime I go out on the Gulf fishing. You should see all the sharks around the oil rigs in the Gulf - tons of sharks around those things.

JOM'S
01-13-2005, 04:55 AM
http://www.transparencynow.com/welles.htm

War of the Worlds, Orson Welles,
And The Invasion from Mars

The ability to confuse audiences en masse may have first become obvious as a result of one of the most infamous mistakes in history. It happened the day before Halloween, on Oct. 30, 1938, when millions of Americans tuned in to a popular radio program that featured plays directed by, and often starring, Orson Welles. The performance that evening was an adaptation of the science fiction novel The War of the Worlds, about a Martian invasion of the earth. But in adapting the book for a radio play, Welles made an important change: under his direction the play was written and performed so it would sound like a news broadcast about an invasion from Mars, a technique that, presumably, was intended to heighten the dramatic effect.

As the play unfolded, dance music was interrupted a number of times by fake news bulletins reporting that a "huge flaming object" had dropped on a farm near Grovers Mill, New Jersey. As members of the audience sat on the edge of their collective seat, actors playing news announcers, officials and other roles one would expect to hear in a news report, described the landing of an invasion force from Mars and the destruction of the United States. The broadcast also contained a number of explanations that it was all a radio play, but if members of the audience missed a brief explanation at the beginning, the next one didn't arrive until 40 minutes into the program.

At one point in the broadcast, an actor in a studio, playing a newscaster in the field, described the emergence of one of the aliens from its spacecraft. "Good heavens, something's wriggling out of the shadow like a gray snake," he said, in an appropriately dramatic tone of voice. "Now it's another one, and another. They look like tentacles to me. There, I can see the thing's body. It's large as a bear and it glistens like wet leather. But that face. It...it's indescribable. I can hardly force myself to keep looking at it. The eyes are black and gleam like a serpent. The mouth is V-shaped with saliva dripping from its rimless lips that seem to quiver and pulsate....The thing is raising up. The crowd falls back. They've seen enough. This is the most extraordinary experience. I can't find words. I'm pulling this microphone with me as I talk. I'll have to stop the description until I've taken a new position. Hold on, will you please, I'll be back in a minute."

As it listened to this simulation of a news broadcast, created with voice acting and sound effects, a portion of the audience concluded that it was hearing an actual news account of an invasion from Mars. People packed the roads, hid in cellars, loaded guns, even wrapped their heads in wet towels as protection from Martian poison gas, in an attempt to defend themselves against aliens, oblivious to the fact that they were acting out the role of the panic-stricken public that actually belonged in a radio play. Not unlike Stanislaw Lem's deluded populace, people were stuck in a kind of virtual world in which fiction was confused for fact.

News of the panic (which was conveyed via genuine news reports) quickly generated a national scandal. There were calls, which never went anywhere, for government regulations of broadcasting to ensure that a similar incident wouldn't happen again. The victims were also subjected to ridicule, a reaction that can commonly be found, today, when people are taken in by simulations. A cartoon in the New York World-Telegram, for example, portrayed a character who confuses the simulations of the entertainment industry with reality. In one box, the character is shown trying to stick his hand into the radio to shake hands with Amos n' Andy. In another, he reports to a police officer that there is "Black magic!!! There's a little wooden man -- Charlie McCarthy -- and he's actually talking!"

In a prescient column, in the New York Tribune, Dorothy Thompson foresaw that the broadcast revealed the way politicians could use the power of mass communications to create theatrical illusions, to manipulate the public.

"All unwittingly, Mr. Orson Welles and the Mercury Theater of the Air have made one of the most fascinating and important demonstrations of all time," she wrote. "They have proved that a few effective voices, accompanied by sound effects, can convince masses of people of a totally unreasonable, completely fantastic proposition as to create a nation-wide panic.

"They have demonstrated more potently than any argument, demonstrated beyond a question of a doubt, the appalling dangers and enormous effectiveness of popular and theatrical demagoguery....

"Hitler managed to scare all of Europe to its knees a month ago, but he at least had an army and an air force to back up his shrieking words.

"But Mr. Welles scared thousands into demoralization with nothing at all."

In the 1950s, America had another taste of the power that simulations have, to draw people into a world of delusional fantasy, when paired with mass communications. This time it was revealed that a number of television game shows were simulations, in which contestants who knew the answers ahead of time were pretending to guess at their responses. But unlike the invasion from Mars, here the fakery was unambiguously intentional; it was the work of producers who had concluded they could create fictional game shows that would be more exciting than the real thing.

Once again, there was a shocked reaction from the public. Once again, those involved became objects of public anger. And, as happened with the Orson Welles broadcast, an effort was made to ensure that such manipulations wouldn't recur.

But in 1990, it happened again. Audiences around the world discovered that they were taken in by the ultimate Hollywood illusion in which two performers faked their own talent, lip-syncing, to create the impression they were singing. What millions of fans had believed were two talented singers was actually a composite, another seamless interweaving of sensory simulations in which two people provided the visuals, while vocalists provided the audio.

As in the previous two instances, there was a stunned response. But unlike the experience of 1938 or even the 1950s, the social context was different because simulations had become commonplace, and attempts to use them to trick the public were the rule rather than the exception. Also by this time, a global culture had developed, which meant that tens of millions of people around the world were drawn into the same illusion.

One might say that War of the Worlds and the game show scandal foreshadowed the age of simulation that was still to come. Allowing for a little poetic overstatement, the Milli Vanilli scandal served as a rite of passage or symbolic marker, making clear that we now live in an age of simulation confusion in which our tendency to mistake fakes for what they imitate has become one of the characteristic problems of the age.

More to the point, we live in a time in which the ability to create deceptive simulations, especially for television, has become essential to the exercise of power. And the inability to see through these deceptions has become a form of powerlessness. Those who let themselves be taken in by the multiple deceptions of politics, news, advertising and public relations, are doomed, like the more gullible members of the radio audience in 1938, to play a role in other people's dramas, while mistakenly believing that they are reacting to something genuine.

thanks a lot for helping me out neils !!!

tracylee
01-13-2005, 12:27 PM
when you're running up a ladder and you hear something splatter...

Damn you Neils..I had that bouncing around my head all damn night long!!! You know, the way a certain song or commercial will keep replaying itself over and over in your head and you just cant make it stop :eek: That one line of yours drove me crazy most of the night!!! Boy was I cursing you!!! :D

{BrownBomber}
01-13-2005, 02:45 PM
In 2002, more people were killed shaking vending machines than by sharks. I wanted to see the 60 Minutes on the Killer Vending Machines, only they never made one.
Ok Mr. Snapple guy!

Mr. Ryan
01-13-2005, 02:54 PM
Ok Mr. Snapple guy!
OK chick with a fat ass. Alright!

{BrownBomber}
01-13-2005, 02:55 PM
I was like in the fifth grade. Some very famouse prophet predicted the big L.A earthquake.He predicted the exact day and time. People believed it so much we were actually taken out of class the whole day and spent it on the playground. I remember being scared but I was happy we got to play dodgeball the whole day.We used to call it socco back then. Now I REMEMBER HIS NAME IS Nostradamus!They say he predicted the Tsunami.



Seven, the year past of the great earthquake,
It will appear at the time of the Games, slaughter, the axe falls
Not far from the great age, a thousand-fold earthquake
As those entered will come out of their tomb.

Comments: 'Seven' is obviously meant to give us an indication of the year by using an anniversary involving 'seven'. We have to look for an event seven years earlier that involved the attention of the world; the only answer is the death and funeral of Princess Diana in 1997. The events both involve death and a huge concentration by the world's media on a single event.
'The year past' indicates the end of a year, and the Asian quake and tsunami took place five days short of the end of 2004.
The Games talked of are the Olympic Games of 2004.
As for the 'great age', the event took place nearly four years after the start of the third millennium on January 1, 2001 (the celebration at the beginning of 2000 was actually a year out).
The event was of a type a thousand times more powerful than previous serious earthquakes during the 20th century. It took place in the Indian Ocean, close to Indonesia, and involved kilometres of sea-bed being raised 10 metres vertically by a force so powerful we can hardly imagine it. It then sent huge tidal waves out to many countries lying around the ocean, where tens of thousands of unsuspecting people were going about their daily lives or playing on holiday. The final death toll will never be known, but at the time of writing it is about 160,000 and rising.
The final line may refer to the many bodies swept out to sea and then washed up on shore, possibly for months to come.

This interpretation, I hope you will agree, looks far more accurate than first appears. It features a huge earthquake, taking place at the end of a year associated with a great Games and close to the beginning and/or end of an age.
However, 'Seven' remains unconfirmed, although I have suggested it locates the earthquake as taking place in 2004 seven years after another worldwide event, the death of Diana. The fact that the causes and circumstances of both events are not related makes no difference; it is the ability of each event to concentrate the attention of the world that is the link.

I believe that in this case Nostradamus has, unusually, devoted two consecutive predictions to this event, hinting perhaps that it is destined to turn the new age in a different direction, just as 9/11 did. It remains to see which event has the more long-lasting effect.
It is therefore time to turn to the second prediction of this event, Quatrain X.75.
Quatrain X.75 gives us much more information about this event. It takes place, not in Europe, but in Asia.

Original:

Tant attendu ne reuiendra iamais
dedans l'Europe, en Asie apparoistra
Vn de la ligue issu du grand Hermes
Et sur tous roys des orientz croistra.

Slightly adjusted:

Tant attendu, ne reviendra jamais
dedans l'Europe, en Asie will it appear,
Un de la ligue issu du grand Hermes
Et sur tous roys des orient croira.

Note: I have more or less kept to the original text here, as it is so clear, as it needs to be if it is to locate the whereabouts of the event described.

Interpretation:

So long awaited, it will never return
Within Europe, in Asia it will appear.
One of the league issued from the great Hermes,
And over all the rulers of the East will it grow.

The key is 'so long awaited'. Nostradamus is comparing this event with another that happened long ago in Europe. I think he is possibly talking about the explosion of the island of Santorini in the Mediterranean Sea some three and a half thousand years ago. The following catastrophic tidal waves led to the fall of the Minoan civilisation and the rise of Greece as a sea-going power.
Nostradamus is specific about this event appearing in Asia, and of course, one of the names for the 2004 event is the 'Asian Tsunami', which I have used.
Hermes was the herald of the gods. He issued messages from them, in human form but natural disasters also expressed the will of the gods. One of the league issued from the great Hermes simply meant one of the many messages proclaimed by Hermes. However, Hermes also had the task of leading dead souls to the underworld, and it is from the underworld that this particular summons came in the form of earthquake.
The last line has two meanings. First, it refers to the tidal waves which swept over various nations in the Indian Ocean - Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Thailand and others.
Secondly, it refers to the economic and social effect of the disaster on the region for years to come. It has been estimated that it will take five to 10 years to rebuild the most devastated areas.

Final proof

Readers will at once point out that in this second prediction, there is no proof that it is about an earthquake at all. The sense seems to follow on from Quatrain X.74, but we do not see the word 'earthquake' as we do in X.74. Whereas, X.74 is concerned with time, X75 focuses on geographical location. But something has to link the two verses. This is what I suggest it is.

The proof that these two predictions are about the same event lies in their quatrain numbers, which, for these purposes, I have put into Arabic numerals. A small calculation follows

X.74 becomes 10.74 = 10 (7 + 4) 11
X.75 becomes 10.75 = 10 (7 + 5) 12

= 10 + 11 = 21
= 10 + 12 = 22
43

Quatrains X.74 and X.75 are now linked by a single number - 43.

Quatrain X.74 begins with 'Seven', which, linked with the phrase 'the year past' I suggested referred to seven years before 2004, the two world events being referred to being Princess Diana's death in 1997 and the Asian Tsunami in 2004.

However, many people would consider this fantastical, were it not for the fact that we now have 43, calculated from both quatrain numbers.

Diana would have been 43 on July 1, 2004. This number 43 therefore links both verses and provides further support for the theory that 'Seven' at the beginning of line one of Quatrain X.74 refers to the seven years between the death of Diana and the Asian Tsunami. This device is hidden within the code word septiesme (sept/seisme - seven/earthquake) in line one of X.74,
However, this solution provides no proof that Nostradamus actually knew the nature of the 1997 event, beyond possibly the fact that it concerned death and worldwide mourning, as in 2004/05,

Well, that's my take on whether Nostradamus predicted the Tsunami. Wonder how many of you will agree with me.

Seven (1997-2004), the year past of the great earthquake,
It will appear at the time of the Games, slaughter, the axe falls
Not far from the great age, a thousand-fold earthquake,
As those entered will come out of their tomb.

So long awaited, it will never return
Within Europe, in Asia it will appear,
One of the league issued from the great Hermes,
And over all the rulers of the East will it grow.

Mr. Ryan
01-13-2005, 02:56 PM
How about those AIDS infected needles in the change slot of the payphones? Or how about the flashing headlights of death? My school passed out papers with those warnings on them in 6th grade, and then retracted those statements as a mere urban legend.

{BrownBomber}
01-13-2005, 02:57 PM
OK chick with a fat ass. Alright!
I dont call it fat I call it PERFECT!

Mr. Ryan
01-13-2005, 02:59 PM
I dont call it fat I call it PERFECT!
No, it's far from perfect. It's too angular. Come down to Jersey and let me show you a perfect ass. The kind you slap and grab and it forms into your hand.

{BrownBomber}
01-13-2005, 03:03 PM
No, it's far from perfect. It's too angular. Come down to Jersey and let me show you a perfect ass. The kind you slap and grab and it forms into your hand.
I guess its to much meat for your huevos not mine though. :D

Mr. Ryan
01-13-2005, 03:20 PM
I guess its to much meat for your huevos not mine though. :D
That ass is good, but I like the natural fat ones.

Boxerdog
01-13-2005, 03:24 PM
Y2K......
shortage of bottled water
and home depot sold out of generators... lol
That's the ONE!

Had everybody nervous!

{BrownBomber}
01-13-2005, 03:44 PM
That ass is good, but I like the natural fat ones.
I dont see anything unnatural about it.

The1God
01-13-2005, 03:45 PM
Did anybody every try to take a Kidney from you? Have you guys ever watched Mythbusters? Pretty cool show. They prove or disprove many Myths that have been passed on through the ages. As far as Media Hype.... The WMDs that Bush spoke of, the media helped GWB justify the claims. Had the majority of the USA convinced that they were out there.

Look at the majority of the Court cases on tv today, Like Scott Peterson, he was guilty before he was under arrest. The Ramses, they will always be guilty in the public's eyes because of the media. In the early 70s, there was an artificial sweetner called cyclomates, it was better than anything on the market today, but the media claimed it was unsafe. Trust me, it is safer than saccrine (sweet and Low)

The Tylanol poisoning. The media made it sound like these contaminated pills were world wide, when actually, they were extremely scarce.

The media can make or brake anybody. They can bury you if they choose to, we all have skeletons in our closets, and the media can make them into the deadliest sins on the earth.

LuKahnLi
01-13-2005, 05:07 PM
What about the african killer bees!

Hell yeah! Remember that one. I just about died laughing when they announced it.

Atwa_66
01-16-2005, 12:12 PM
guys who are old enough to know this, feel free to correct this ...

I dont know if i get this right Olsen Wells announcement of War of the Worlds during the 60 or 70??? created some hysteria, that is what i have seen in an old gossip mags...
I agree with that,
What idiot listens to the radio and actually believes aliens have landed on the earth. CNN and every channel on TV could be covering a story that aliens have landed here and I wouldn't beleive it, let alone a retarded radio program.

Boxerdog
01-16-2005, 01:14 PM
guys who are old enough to know this, feel free to correct this ...

I dont know if i get this right Olsen Wells announcement of War of the Worlds during the 60 or 70??? created some hysteria, that is what i have seen in an old gossip mags...
It was ORSON Wells dude and it was broadcast the night before Halloween........October 30th, 1938!
Had it happened in the 60s or 70s, we would just have attributed it to the drugs! :D

kepsy
01-16-2005, 02:07 PM
I agree with that,
What idiot listens to the radio and actually believes aliens have landed on the earth. CNN and every channel on TV could be covering a story that aliens have landed here and I wouldn't beleive it, let alone a retarded radio program.
Idiots who did not have tv, internet or CNN for that matter. This was a long time ago when radios were the norm as far as media is concerned.

LuKahnLi
01-16-2005, 04:06 PM
What was even better was that Orson Welles was talking about being shot at by the aliens.

neils7147933
08-29-2006, 11:38 PM
Haven't got a chance to watch this yet, but I wanted to share it with anyone who would be interested...

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Versastyle
08-29-2006, 11:44 PM
that radio thing that they did back in the day sayin aliens r coming and ppl started killing themselves and going crazy

Scottie2Hottie
08-29-2006, 11:45 PM
I think SARS went a little overboard considering the amount of people who die from the flu each year.

Speaking of the flu, what about the scare this year about there not being enough vaciene? Do we know if we had more deaths this year compared to others?

YOU are the ****ing man. people in new england are scared ****less of eastern equine encephilitis and west nile virus, because 2 people died from each, and i say "about 1000 times more people die from the flu, and i dont see you worrying about that."

all diseases like that are the same: babies and the elderly are susceptible. not too many others.

LoftyDog
08-30-2006, 12:55 AM
Well, I don't know about mass panic, but the danger from sharks is real here on the Gulf Coast my friends, lots of sharks in these warm waters. I see them everytime I go out on the Gulf fishing. You should see all the sharks around the oil rigs in the Gulf - tons of sharks around those things.

Yeah but there are things you can do so you decrease your chances of getting attacked.

Someone mentioned vote or die which did nothing, but Paris Hilton was on that bandwagon but never voted...still waitin on that one.

I'd have to say my favorite is bird flu...what a joke.

The Ensanity
08-30-2006, 03:24 AM
I'd have to say my favorite is bird flu...what a joke.


Bird flu is BAD ASS...As Bad as MAD COW

BrooklynBomber
08-30-2006, 09:03 AM
And they ask me why I gace away my tv set. :cool:

Exige Jr
08-30-2006, 09:19 AM
1) Iraq WMD 40 minute missile threat.

Easy.

Dirt E Gomez
08-30-2006, 10:18 AM
The answer is simple: KILLER BEES

Mr. Ryan
08-30-2006, 11:30 AM
What is the stupidest threat to your safety that the media has EVER reported on?

Remember in the summer 2002 all the media outlets were talking about a supposed increase in shark attacks off the coast of the US? Even though it wasn't true that shark attacks had increased?
Vending machines kill more people every year than do sharks in America. People shake the vending machines and they fall on people. Believe me, I can't make this **** up.

SnoopySmurf
08-30-2006, 11:43 AM
I agree with this...I've never, ever had the flu..not even once, but everyone I know that get's those shot's relegiously every year get sick as a dog the following day. Why bother?? Maybe for the sick (terminally or whatever) and the elderly..but not everyone else! There's no way in hell I'd ever take one myself :eek:

They "feel" sick because their body is reacting to the dead flu virus by having a fever and trying to kill of the already dead flu virus. It's an automatic response in some people.

I get flu shots every now and then and I get no reaction at all. Nurse said it's probably becuase I've been exposed to so much **** (living in the Philippines makes your immune system strong! :D ) that my body already has the antigens to deal with the strain of flu that was injected to me.

BrooklynBomber
08-30-2006, 12:20 PM
Vending machines kill more people every year than do sharks in America. People shake the vending machines and they fall on people. Believe me, I can't make this **** up.
Very believable.

Explosivo
08-30-2006, 02:24 PM
Vending machines kill more people every year than do sharks in America. People shake the vending machines and they fall on people. Believe me, I can't make this **** up.

If you get crushed from a falling vending machine that you were just shaking, I think thats just mother natures way of cleaning up the gene pool.

joeytrimble
08-30-2006, 02:39 PM
prolly gotta be the "africanized" killer bees about 10-12 years ago ...nobody bought it and they fizzeled out like a bad fart

2nd place would be the guy telling me how new york is gonna get destroyed by a huge wave of water... because the experts said so ...prolly caught it on the today show or some ****

joeytrimble
08-30-2006, 02:42 PM
prolly gotta be the "africanized" killer bees about 10-12 years ago ...nobody bought it and they fizzeled out like a bad fart

2nd place would be the guy telling me how new york is gonna get destroyed by a huge wave of water... because the experts said so ...prolly caught it on the today show or some ****
another vote goes to the big missle scare of this summer with korea and iran...first korea was aiming at us to blow us up ..tested there **** surpiseingly on 4th of july "who woulda thunk it" ...when none of there **** worked properly the stink shifted to iran now apartently they've defide the UN by opening up a reactor...oooooo the big bad iranians opened up there reactor ...

rocco1252
08-30-2006, 07:07 PM
The razorblades in the apples at Holloween. It never happened.
**** you man my bro lost half his tongue from that **** about 2 years ago, mother ****er can talk without a severe slur in his speach now, upside of it is atleast he knows people laugh at him so he keeps quiet most of the time.

SonnyG8R
08-30-2006, 07:10 PM
**** you man my bro lost half his tongue from that **** about 2 years ago, mother ****er can talk without a severe slur in his speach now, upside of it is atleast he knows people laugh at him so he keeps quiet most of the time.

I can't believe your bro was dumb enough to eat an apple he got at halloween. :p

rocco1252
08-30-2006, 07:12 PM
I cant believe anyone gave him anything! :confused:

SonnyG8R
08-30-2006, 07:41 PM
I cant believe anyone gave him anything! :confused:


Yeah that's seriously ****ed up.

joeytrimble
08-30-2006, 09:16 PM
i doubt its even true prolly some bleedin heart tryin to rally the troops

neils7147933
10-19-2006, 03:53 PM
<img src="http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2006/191006stadium.jpg">

Media Terrorizes Public With Phony Messageboard Stadium Threat

An obscure Internet messageboard posting featured on an obscene joke website that warned of weekend dirty bomb attacks on major NFL football stadiums nationwide was hyped by a media response that artificially loaded the empty threat with importance, terrorizing the American people in the latest onslaught of the politics of fear.

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/191006stadiumthreat.htm">http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/191006stadiumthreat.htm</a>

Mr. Ryan
10-19-2006, 03:56 PM
War of the Worlds, in the 30's.
Y2K, remember that ****?

eazy_mas
10-19-2006, 05:06 PM
it a way to control the people by fear.

when someone is in a paranoid state he does not use common sense and logicl to analyze thing around him happening.

sometimes during thise media freenzy there is other stuff going on that is more important and scandlous.

for example during the 20s or 30s i dont remeber but even befoe than the date but there was a radio show that stop its music and said there is creaturse from mars are invading earth. the people out there went in a freenzy and some jumped out the buildings. it was a panic. the next day the radio station apologize for it and said there wasnt such thing as that is was something from a comic and did though people would belive it...etc.
behind this whole stroy there was two most important thing that happened that effect the whole amercain history. 1. was this whole thing was experinment by the some gov. phyocolgist to see how people who react. the 2nd one was that 6 of the most powerful banker meet up in the world created the fedral reserve, those people are so rich that the make bill gates looks like a poor man with all his money he ever hand.

K-DOGG
10-19-2006, 05:11 PM
What is the stupidest threat to your safety that the media has EVER reported on?

Remember in the summer 2002 all the media outlets were talking about a supposed increase in shark attacks off the coast of the US? Even though it wasn't true that shark attacks had increased?

There is only one King of this List:


Orson Wells......and the live "War of the Worlds" broadcast in 1938.


Nothing's ever gonna beat that, IMO.

eazy_mas
10-19-2006, 05:35 PM
it a way to control the people by fear.

when someone is in a paranoid state he does not use common sense and logicl to analyze thing around him happening.

sometimes during thise media freenzy there is other stuff going on that is more important and scandlous.

for example during the 20s or 30s i dont remeber but even befoe than the date but there was a radio show that stop its music and said there is creaturse from mars are invading earth. the people out there went in a freenzy and some jumped out the buildings. it was a panic. the next day the radio station apologize for it and said there wasnt such thing as that is was something from a comic and did though people would belive it...etc.
behind this whole stroy there was two most important thing that happened that effect the whole amercain history. 1. was this whole thing was experinment by the some gov. phyocolgist to see how people who react. the 2nd one was that 6 of the most powerful banker meet up in the world created the fedral reserve, those people are so rich that the make bill gates looks like a poor man with all his money he ever hand.

There is only one King of this List:


Orson Wells......and the live "War of the Worlds" broadcast in 1938.


Nothing's ever gonna beat that, IMO.

exactly what i meant.

but i think there is others but you dont know about it.

like the gonzalze case the boy from cuban and came to florida that was in 1999.

that was extrme the wont do it everytime but it it dont on a regular bases because it how the control people. it just done in different ways and different levels and in different things but its all the same idea on what its behind it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_%28radio%29#Conspiracy_theor y

K-DOGG
10-19-2006, 06:24 PM
exactly what i meant.

but i think there is others but you dont know about it.

like the gonzalze case the boy from cuban and came to florida that was in 1999.

that was extrme the wont do it everytime but it it dont on a regular bases because it how the control people. it just done in different ways and different levels and in different things but its all the same idea on what its behind it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_%28radio%29#Conspiracy_theor y


I think sensationalizm is what drove the Gonzalez story....and all of modern media, for that matter.

The Gonzalez story where the father ended up being the good guy after the press rallied around the mother, who was in Florida or something...right?

Another would be the woman who drown both her kids in her car and claimed a black man carjacked her car and the kids were in the back seat.



....the Wells broadcast from 1938 did intro as a "Theater" event; they announced it was just their show; but the format was as such that if you tuned in after the official introduction, it sounded like a real newscast.