Jones says he knows himself better than anyone and his skills have not eroded, he has just lost interest, he had no motivation in camp and until he decides to fight again he won't.Anyone want to bet the next post is neuraxis or cynical ??? :p :p :eek: :p

where did you here this :confused:

Jones says he knows himself better than anyone and his skills have not eroded, he has just lost interest, he had no motivation in camp and until he decides to fight again he won't.Anyone want to bet the next post is neuraxis or cynical ??? :p :p :eek: :p
His skills are gone.
He's nothing but still won't admit it.
So let him come back and fight again.
I want to watch him get knocked out and never wake up.

*********, it was posted an hour ago.I'm waiting to see him on Tito Mayorga but nothing yet.

Jones says he knows himself better than anyone and his skills have not eroded, he has just lost interest, he had no motivation in camp and until he decides to fight again he won't.Anyone want to bet the next post is neuraxis or cynical ??? :p :p :eek: :p

Do I know you? This is the first I've seen you post.

Roy Jones used to be The King of The Ring, now he's The King Of De Nile!

Do I know you? This is the first I've seen you post.

I read more than I post, it's just you and Cynical are usual right there to bash a Jones post.

I read more than I post, it's just you and Cynical are usual right there to bash a Jones post.

So you think that belts shouldn't be won in the ring? I mean Tyson is a bigger attraction than Brewster even in his current state. Does that mean that the WBO should strip Brewster of his belt and give it to Tyson? Try to justify this.

I am still waiting for a response, and you are online.

his skills are still there his combos still lighting fast.. HE SHOULD OF STAYED AT HEAVYWEIHT OR GO BACK UP... and i dont even like jones

So you think that belts shouldn't be won in the ring? I mean Tyson is a bigger attraction than Brewster even in his current state. Does that mean that the WBO should strip Brewster of his belt and give it to Tyson? Try to justify this.

I am still waiting for a response, and you are online.

I'm not sure where your taking this, but is Jones responsible for the decisions of the WBC.I think you need to justify your dislike of Jones based on a decision made by the WBC, Jones had nothing to do with that or he would of been named in the lawsuit along with the WBC, pretty lame reason to be dissin him I think.

boxers never admit to loseing skills...holyfield still says he can become the champion of the world...jones jr skills are GONE ..he fights like hes tired from the first bell, anybody whos followed roy knows thats not how the old roy fought

Not trying to defend Roy but it's mostly true what this post says. He just doesn't have the heart, which is a hell of a knock on him anyway. He's still quick but doesn't have the killer instinct anymore, the energy, the adrenaline... it's gone. It's not a skill problem, it's an attitude/heart/motivation problem.

In all honestly it looks like he's on drugs. I'm not trying to start a rumor or assume anything... just an observation.

I'm not sure where your taking this, but is Jones responsible for the decisions of the WBO.I think you need to justify your dislike of Jones based on a decision made by the WBO, Jones had nothing to do with that or he would of been named in the lawsuit along with the WBO, pretty lame reason to be dissin him I think.

You need to go back and look at what happened with Roy and the WBC belt in 1997-1998.

You need to go back and look at what happened with Roy and the WBC belt in 1997-1998.

Yep, a big scam perpetrated by Roy to get out of fighting Michael Nunn. Roy had Rocky Rocchigiani do his dirty work for him.

What a pudwhack.

Just another observation on RJ look at his body at 168 and early 175 fights he looked so much healthier and bulkier, the man was an awesome physical specimen, but ever since the Richard Hall fight when he was busted for gear he hasn't looked the same, yes still in good shape but no way near as good except when he fought Ruiz that's the last time I've been impressed with how he looks.
Could it be all those years he had a little something extra?

Just another observation on RJ look at his body at 168 and early 175 fights he looked so much healthier and bulkier, the man was an awesome physical specimen, but ever since the Richard Hall fight when he was busted for gear he hasn't looked the same, yes still in good shape but no way near as good except when he fought Ruiz that's the last time I've been impressed with how he looks.
Could it be all those years he had a little something extra?

I'd say that there was a good chance of that.

Yep, a big scam perpetrated by Roy to get out of fighting Michael Nunn. Roy had Rocky Rocchigiani do his dirty work for him.

What a pudwhack.

Exactly and shouldn't RJJ have beaten Rocchigiani to get his belt back? Why fight a dangerous opponent when you can have the WBC strip Rocchigiani and give it back to you.

Could it be all those years he had a little something extra?

Yes.

Winstrol. :rolleyes:

I'd say that there was a good chance of that.
I half expected to be jumped on by all the RJ lovers and before you all do I'm not a hater at all, in fact i'm quite a big fan but I do see what i see and too me that scenerio would explain alot or help explain why his body has deteriated so much, true age, weight loss can account for some of it but come on people look at the difference, it's like when Vargas weighed in for DLH ripped to death and normally he's lucky just to look in shape.

Sorry - explain what's winstrol

Sorry - explain what's winstrol

A steroid which specializes in lean muscle mass and some fat loss--perfect for a boxer.

Type it into a search engine and you'll get all kinds of fun information .

thanks hom, excellent avatar by the way, i used to love watching those childs play films when i was a kid

Any day now.

his skills are all still there
his heart is gone

I agree he's just not interested and thats whats getting him into trouble.

You need to go back and look at what happened with Roy and the WBC belt in 1997-1998.

I took your advice and did a little reading, these quotes jumped out at me.
For every Roy Jones Jr. who accomplishes everything you possible can do inside the ring, there is a Michael Nunn. People who show us flashes of greatness, but yet leave us in the dark when it matters most. Nunn will forever be remembered as an underachiever, not only in boxing, but in life as well.
Michael Nunn was supposed to be Roy Jones before Roy Jones was Roy Jones.

I took your advice and did a little reading, these quotes jumped out at me.
For every Roy Jones Jr. who accomplishes everything you possible can do inside the ring, there is a Michael Nunn. People who show us flashes of greatness, but yet leave us in the dark when it matters most. Nunn will forever be remembered as an underachiever, not only in boxing, but in life as well.
Michael Nunn was supposed to be Roy Jones before Roy Jones was Roy Jones.

So why did he feel the need to duck Nunn and the fighter who beat who beat Nunn, Rocchigiani?

I agree he's just not interested and thats whats getting him into trouble. Okay, it made perfect sense why Jones wanted the re-match w/ Tarver cause the first one was controversial(I felt Jones did enough to get the win though) and also the money it would generate. After the Tarver k.o. he said the same thing "it's hard to get up for fights like this" so if being motivated was really the reason why go through a Glencoffe Johnson, I would've just gone straight to a 3rd fight w/ Tarver which would've made alot more money after all that is the bottom line here MONEY. I mean what Jones is saying and what his actions has shown doesn't make any sense for someone that isn't motivated. So let me ask y'all this, if being "lazy" is the issue why prepare for 2 fights instead of one big one. I just don't buy this whole problem motivating oneself, it's more of being scared and not having confidence whatsoever in ones ability, but then again who would be stupid enough to make a statement to the public and say "I just don't have the balls to face these guys". Let's do ourselves a favor and not witness Roy Jones get killed in the ring and make large sums of money on his way to the morgue. Roy Jones needs to re-state his comments about his recent ass-whuppin' and be more honest w/ the people that enables him to afford the finer things in life, what he needs to say is " I no longer feel the need to perform at the highest level after all these suckers would pay the same amount to watch me beat the hell out of a punching bag".

His skills are gone.
He's nothing but still won't admit it.
So let him come back and fight again.
I want to watch him get knocked out and never wake up.

I don't think Jones skills are gone. He's not as fast anymore, but his skills are still there.

Jones issued a statement yesterday, here it is if anyones interested :

Jones knew the obvious question before it was even asked: "Do I quit?," he asked himself casually. "Well, of course quitting ain't the right word for one. But two, I'm not a quitter so I can't tell you that. Off top the way I look at is I know I need a break from it because my body's been going through a lot. Know what I'm talking about? I've sent my body through a whole lot to make history. I had to almost sacrifice myself to make history when I won a heavyweight title. To come back down was a very difficult thing for me but at the same time I had things I said I would do and I tried to keep my word and do what I said I would do. So I came down and did that. Now since winning the heavyweight title everything has else has been just like - I got up for the heavyweight title. I haven't been up like that no more. And until I can get up like that it'll be best that I stay out of the ring because until I get up - what you going to go in there for? I tried to go back for the fans. I tried to go back to just do it but it's not the thing to just do it. This is a killer game. This is a killer sport. You know where I'm coming from? And it's not safe to just do it because you feel like people want you to do it. So if I don't have something to get me up from now on, to make me really, really go again I'm just going to take it easy and commentate and do what I do."

Jones, who gained titles in four weight classes, was untouchable for the better part of a decade. But after winning the WBA Heavyweight title from John Ruiz, Jones has had very limited sucess since returning to 175 lbs. He struggled to gain a close decision over Antonio Tarver last November, was knocked out in their rematch then was knocked out brutally again by Johnson.

Does he feel two consecutive knockout losses will ultimately affect his legacy? "I ain't ever been the one to worry about no legacy no way," he responded, laughingly. "When I was doing what I was doing before I won the heavyweight title, which I aspired to do, nothing could stop me until I got where I wanted to go. So they see it, as they want to see it but when I was hungry, in the hunt for what I wanted, nothing could stop me."

Interestingly, if Jones does decide to return, he probably will not return to Light Heavyweight." I don't know. I might move back up. I'm not really sure yet. I can't make that call. I'll make that call when I'm ready to make that decision."

Still, Jones (49-3, 38 KO's) points to lack of hunger as the main reason for his loss. "I know I don't have it now. I did what I wanted to do. If you hit the lotto you don't go to the store and play the numbers as hard as you played them before- you already hit the lotto. The loss is because I'm not hungry. When you're hungry you got to see everything that comes across your plate because you might not get to eat no more. When you're full, you can pass a few meals." But then again, you can wait a few hours and the hunger can return.

So does Jones think he has the ability to regain his hunger for ring combat? "I could. One thing will help me regain the hunger is because I know me. And I know who I am. I'm going to take a little time off. I know how competitive I am. I know my mind will go in there and say 'OK, I'm ready now'. And if that happens I'll be ready and if it don't then I'm just going to chill. But I know it's coming."

Okay,if being motivated was really the reason why go through a Glencoffe Johnson, I would've just gone straight to a 3rd fight w/ Tarver which would've made alot more money".

Jones wanted the belt for a unification bout with Tarver.The first fight with Tarver was close but Jones won in my eyes, the second fight Jones was looking good and won the first round and until he got ****y and backed into the ropes, dropped his right hand to his hip was winning the second.This last fight he looked indifferent to the fight and let himself get swarmed and outworked but up until the ko Johnson wasn't landing anything damaging just outworking RJ.Then he drops his left to his hip this time and bang gets nailed.To fight any pro fighter you got to be into it and on your game or your gonna get nailed,anyone can get ko'd if they take it lightly and I believe that is what happened.Roy showed spurts of his old self and his hand speed was still there, he just looked like he was gonna ride it out and get Johnson out in the latter stages but underestimated Johnson and got nailed.I want one more fight with Roy's alter ego RJJ showing up before I write him off, I hope its at LH I think he has unfinished business there.If Roy's health is in danger as some are saying due to being dropped hard in tarver1 (he got up and beat the count) and ko'd in Johnson than Mayorga should retire yesterday for the punishment he took saturday.I've been waiting for a few years for the old Roy to show up maybe this will be what it takes, if not than I wish him well in retirement.Two fights at the end of a career do not a career make.

Jones issued a statement yesterday, here it is if anyones interested :

Jones knew the obvious question before it was even asked: "Do I quit?," he asked himself casually. "Well, of course quitting ain't the right word for one. But two, I'm not a quitter so I can't tell you that. Off top the way I look at is I know I need a break from it because my body's been going through a lot. Know what I'm talking about? I've sent my body through a whole lot to make history. I had to almost sacrifice myself to make history when I won a heavyweight title. To come back down was a very difficult thing for me but at the same time I had things I said I would do and I tried to keep my word and do what I said I would do. So I came down and did that. Now since winning the heavyweight title everything has else has been just like - I got up for the heavyweight title. I haven't been up like that no more. And until I can get up like that it'll be best that I stay out of the ring because until I get up - what you going to go in there for? I tried to go back for the fans. I tried to go back to just do it but it's not the thing to just do it. This is a killer game. This is a killer sport. You know where I'm coming from? And it's not safe to just do it because you feel like people want you to do it. So if I don't have something to get me up from now on, to make me really, really go again I'm just going to take it easy and commentate and do what I do."

Jones, who gained titles in four weight classes, was untouchable for the better part of a decade. But after winning the WBA Heavyweight title from John Ruiz, Jones has had very limited sucess since returning to 175 lbs. He struggled to gain a close decision over Antonio Tarver last November, was knocked out in their rematch then was knocked out brutally again by Johnson.

Does he feel two consecutive knockout losses will ultimately affect his legacy? "I ain't ever been the one to worry about no legacy no way," he responded, laughingly. "When I was doing what I was doing before I won the heavyweight title, which I aspired to do, nothing could stop me until I got where I wanted to go. So they see it, as they want to see it but when I was hungry, in the hunt for what I wanted, nothing could stop me."

Interestingly, if Jones does decide to return, he probably will not return to Light Heavyweight." I don't know. I might move back up. I'm not really sure yet. I can't make that call. I'll make that call when I'm ready to make that decision."

Still, Jones (49-3, 38 KO's) points to lack of hunger as the main reason for his loss. "I know I don't have it now. I did what I wanted to do. If you hit the lotto you don't go to the store and play the numbers as hard as you played them before- you already hit the lotto. The loss is because I'm not hungry. When you're hungry you got to see everything that comes across your plate because you might not get to eat no more. When you're full, you can pass a few meals." But then again, you can wait a few hours and the hunger can return.

So does Jones think he has the ability to regain his hunger for ring combat? "I could. One thing will help me regain the hunger is because I know me. And I know who I am. I'm going to take a little time off. I know how competitive I am. I know my mind will go in there and say 'OK, I'm ready now'. And if that happens I'll be ready and if it don't then I'm just going to chill. But I know it's coming."

You are ducking my question.

I've been a fan of Roy Jones but at the same time I am highly critical of him especially the ungrateful, *******t and BULL**** remarks,excuses, what have you that he has been sayin' in the press. Twospeed 99 you haven't been gettin' the point I'm trying to get across. Let's just say we all buy Jones's b.s. about not being motivated, I mean if you were to be in RJJ shoes with his skills in that same fight with Glencoffe Johnson, I mean wouldn't you have had a sense of urgency to do something when you are trailing that big against a guy you are suppose to walk all over(Jones slept through the whole fight).... Jones doesn't have any fighting skills, and f**k all these Jones nuthuggers using the excuse of Jones slowing down because of age, although I agree he has slipped but not a whole lot and it really is such a poor excuse cause the last two guys he has faced are either the same age as he is or at the most a year younger than Roy is, so Tarver and Johnson ain't exactly runnin' at the same speed when they were in their mid to late twenties. I have to agree though and I didn't like the idea when I first heard of Jones coming down from Heavyweight to Light heavy, I obviously don't know if it was brought up in the negotiations in the 1st Tarver fight, but I would've done it at a catch weight of 185 or 190. If Jones does decide to make a comeback with a rematch with either guy I'd have it be at a higher weight, but still the weight was not what got him knocked out it's the fact that Jones is so fundamentally flawed and that is what got him clocked TWICE!

It's interesting that Jones would say that. I hope he knows what he's doing.

Jones wanted the belt for a unification bout with Tarver.The first fight with Tarver was close but Jones won in my eyes, the second fight Jones was looking good and won the first round and until he got ****y and backed into the ropes, dropped his right hand to his hip was winning the second.This last fight he looked indifferent to the fight and let himself get swarmed and outworked but up until the ko Johnson wasn't landing anything damaging just outworking RJ.Then he drops his left to his hip this time and bang gets nailed.To fight any pro fighter you got to be into it and on your game or your gonna get nailed,anyone can get ko'd if they take it lightly and I believe that is what happened.Roy showed spurts of his old self and his hand speed was still there, he just looked like he was gonna ride it out and get Johnson out in the latter stages but underestimated Johnson and got nailed.I want one more fight with Roy's alter ego RJJ showing up before I write him off, I hope its at LH I think he has unfinished business there.If Roy's health is in danger as some are saying due to being dropped hard in tarver1 (he got up and beat the count) and ko'd in Johnson than Mayorga should retire yesterday for the punishment he took saturday.I've been waiting for a few years for the old Roy to show up maybe this will be what it takes, if not than I wish him well in retirement.Two fights at the end of a career do not a career make.

Still waiting.