View Full Version : Marquez .... what an idiot


baya
01-11-2005, 11:50 AM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.

m00ks
01-11-2005, 11:52 AM
hey if that's Marquez' loss, he wants to be remebered as th echamp who overprices himself? Fine. EM and Pacquaio would be a war and would be much more entertaining than any Marquez bout, at least for me.

Marjoh
01-11-2005, 11:58 AM
Like I said before, Marquez needs Pacquiao more than the other way around. Now he's left with no purse and with a less attraction opponent. Though I still wants a rematch. Maybe if Pacquiao is successful against Morales, Marquez' camp would understand that Pac is the attraction.

Toller
01-11-2005, 12:01 PM
Yeah he has been pretty dumb. I'm sure he could have reached an agreement to get paid the same as Pac-man (he is champ, Pac is the attraction), which would have been a big payday for him.

m00ks
01-11-2005, 12:02 PM
Like I said before, Marquez needs Pacquiao more than the other way around. Now he's left with no purse and with a less attraction opponent. Though I still wants a rematch. Maybe if Pacquiao is successful against Morales, Marquez' camp would understand that Pac is the attraction.

Why does something tell me he's not THAT disappointed. :D

lapulapu
01-11-2005, 12:09 PM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.


i dont like marquez because of his boxing style, but i dont think he's an idiot. JMM wants more money for his belts. and i wanna see MP get those belts. but who knows? maybe next time.

Erik Morales has no belts. Except for the love of breaking each other skulls & of course for the satisfaction of boxing fans, I think that's the thing EM, MP and all of us will get from the fight. Its gonna be a bloody fight for sure. A sure fiery return for the boxing money.

jmm, forget about him. for now.

JOM'S
01-11-2005, 12:15 PM
i dont like marquez because of his boxing style, but i dont think he's an idiot. JMM wants more money for his belts. and i wanna see MP get those belts. but who knows? maybe next time.

Erik Morales has no belts. Except for the love of breaking each other skulls & of course for the satisfaction of boxing fans, I think that's the thing EM, MP and all of us will get from the fight. Its gonna be a bloody fight for sure. A sure fiery return for the boxing money.

jmm, forget about him. for now.

I really love to see first PAC finishes unsettled business with JMM before anyfight but PAC-EM match-up is something to wish for, I hope to see the contract signed, seal and delivered ASAP ...

jabsRstiff
01-11-2005, 12:16 PM
It's interesting how JM Marquez & Winky Wright have went from being ducked & ignored for so long, to playing the same games that were played on them.

*******s.

riz
01-11-2005, 12:18 PM
really dum move by marquez

LuKahnLi
01-11-2005, 12:18 PM
I hate to say it but I have trouble seeing Pacquaio beat Morales.

lapulapu
01-11-2005, 12:28 PM
I really love to see first PAC finishes unsettled business with JMM before anyfight but PAC-EM match-up is something to wish for, I hope to see the contract signed, seal and delivered ASAP ...

I think that's the biggest problem right now. There's no official announcement about this fight.

I think Manny should focus on training so he can be ready to fight anyone. MP should not discard February 26 yet. Roach should see to it that Pacman is ready anytime. A surprise might still be around the corner.

Chups
01-11-2005, 12:42 PM
Let JMM grow old! :D

lapulapu
01-11-2005, 12:46 PM
I hate to say it but I have trouble seeing Pacquaio beat Morales.

Dont worry, we still need to see if this fight is really happening.

When the fight comes, you'll see what you dont like to see.

Floydmayweather
01-11-2005, 12:56 PM
The fight will still happen, Marquez is smart for holding out. Even though the fans are pissed.

Mr. Violence
01-11-2005, 01:03 PM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.



I agree it is a major ***** move...JMM was gonna get KO'd anyway...In my humble opinion. Oh well, Pacman Vs. Erik Morales will be exciting so it's not a complete loss.

fist-of-fury
01-11-2005, 01:07 PM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.

I really feel sorry for you idol JMM! I believe it's not him but his managers and promoter who were calling the shots. And what a stupid call to make! When they demanded 1.5M, I knew the fight won't push through. A case of JMM being with the wrong people at the wrong time? TOUGH LUCK! :(

SalvaDominicano
01-11-2005, 01:08 PM
pac just thought to himself knowing he cant win the fight against JMM and he wants a tuneup bout against morales which he will lose. haha. naw but its obvious who pac is going after, after his fight with morales so this is really the best tune up fight for him. now jmm is in trouble. i say he takes on barrera.

fist-of-fury
01-11-2005, 01:29 PM
Dont worry, we still need to see if this fight is really happening.

When the fight comes, you'll see what you dont like to see.
*********.com just confirmed that Pac-Morales is a go on Mar19 at MGM.

But whoever came up with that billing title "BRING IT ON"? How bland! They should have thought of a more fiery or catchy phrase (in the mold of THRILLA IN MANILA, RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE, YANIG SA TAGUIG...oops!)

Fareastwarrior
01-11-2005, 01:46 PM
Give me a break, Juan Manuel Marquez did that on purpose to avoid Manny Pacquiao, because the Marquez camp knew that their beloved fighter would be slaughtered inside the ring. Juan Manuel Marqeuz already went down 3 times in the first round. In a rematch this number would be doubled and the fight wouldn't last long, because the Pacman would blast this "El Dynamita" away. The way Marquez fought in his last fight was a disgrace, and he called himself as a champion. Against the Pacman he would be carried away on a stretcher. :D

SalvaDominicano
01-11-2005, 02:28 PM
what the hell are you talking about? a disgrace? pac was a disgrace he had the fight in his hands and let it slip away. THAT IS NOT A CHAMPION. marquez came back from 3 knockdowns and BEAT pac. THAT IS A CHAMPION. get off his nuts and realize that pac isnt god. what r his excuses for not taking him out? bad socks..? marquez was stupid for tryin to trade but started boxing and made pac look foolish. dont even say oh pac has some new weapons **** that. pac will still resort to his left. manny might have a right hand now but he will still depend on his left and marquez isnt stupid enough to buy into that. he knows where the knockout punch is coming from. now dont think i dont like pac but the way u talk about him makes u look ignorant as hell. yea there was a chance of marquez getting knocked out and theres a chance of morales getting knocked out but morales is getting the money he wants. marques is not. would u want to fight manny for more or less when u could possibly get a big pay day outta it?

JaNnO
01-12-2005, 12:15 AM
what the hell are you talking about? a disgrace? pac was a disgrace he had the fight in his hands and let it slip away. THAT IS NOT A CHAMPION. marquez came back from 3 knockdowns and BEAT pac. THAT IS A CHAMPION. get off his nuts and realize that pac isnt god. what r his excuses for not taking him out? bad socks..? marquez was stupid for tryin to trade but started boxing and made pac look foolish. dont even say oh pac has some new weapons **** that. pac will still resort to his left. manny might have a right hand now but he will still depend on his left and marquez isnt stupid enough to buy into that. he knows where the knockout punch is coming from. now dont think i dont like pac but the way u talk about him makes u look ignorant as hell. yea there was a chance of marquez getting knocked out and theres a chance of morales getting knocked out but morales is getting the money he wants. marques is not. would u want to fight manny for more or less when u could possibly get a big pay day outta it?

this post is inutile...the fight was a draw...you hate pac so much, you don't know fact from fiction anymore...would you stop posting non-stop posts, coz nobody believes you.

THRILLAinmanila
01-12-2005, 12:29 AM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.


Yup, Marquez was on his way to a big payday and greater stardom if he had beaten Pac. ...

kadyo
01-12-2005, 12:31 AM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.

Amen.... :D

VPDJ
01-12-2005, 02:28 AM
I hate to say it but I have trouble seeing Pacquaio beat Morales.

That's your analysis but as for me, I don't have a single doubt why Pacman can't beat Morales convincingly. (uhmn... Don't worry, we will know that at fight time.) :D

Dondon_Ampalayo
01-12-2005, 03:07 AM
JMM haggling for a bigger purse on the grounds that he is gambling two titles maybe a legit reason, but at the back of his mind (together with coach Nacho) they're weary Pacman would knock him out and so goes JMM's career... if that happened they have at least pocketed double of should have been paid.. and JMM may never have a bigger payday after that.

I agree that Pac is the bigger draw than JMM hence the bigger purse, and should there be anyone haggling for for a bigger purse it should be Pac.


MANNY BALATO !!!undefined

SalvaDominicano
01-12-2005, 03:09 AM
i dont hate pac i like pac but all u pac fans say is how good he is. yea he is good. it pisses me off u dont give the 3 m's the credit they deserve.

THRILLAinmanila
01-12-2005, 03:11 AM
JMM haggling for a bigger purse on the grounds that he is gambling two titles maybe a legit reason, but at the back of his mind (together with coach Nacho) they're weary Pacman would knock him out and so goes JMM's career... if that happened they have at least pocketed double of should have been paid.. and JMM may never have a bigger payday after that.

I agree that Pac is the bigger draw than JMM hence the bigger purse, and should there be anyone haggling for for a bigger purse it should be Pac.


MANNY BALATO !!!undefined


Are you the real basketball player or a fan of his ?
Anyway, welcome to BoxingScene :)

nelsoncm
01-12-2005, 05:02 AM
i dont hate pac i like pac but all u pac fans say is how good he is. yea he is good. it pisses me off u dont give the 3 m's the credit they deserve.

You hate pac. The pic says more than you want to preach.

Marquez was supposed to fight like a champion in his last outing, as what Janno implied. Instead, he chose to put the fight fans to sleep with a borefest.

No wonder he couldn't land a big fight and a big purse. He had his chances at greatness. He wasted them all except his fight with Pacquiao.

I believe Marquez has what it takes to give Pacquiao hell. But with the way he fought Salido, sorry, as a fan, I just expected more.

Anyway, the fight world benefits from the Pac-Morales matchup.

chito
01-12-2005, 05:10 AM
I hate to say it but I have trouble seeing Pacquaio beat Morales.

i had trouble seeing pac beat mab too when they fought. look what happened! pac is a warrior and mark my word, he has much of a chance of kay-o-ing morales rather than kay-o-ing marquez! this fight will be decided on who lands the lethal punch. im counting it would be pac that would land it!

SalvaDominicano
01-12-2005, 11:46 AM
[QUOTE=nelsoncm]You hate pac. The pic says more than you want to preach.
QUOTE]

nah thats just to be funny. i never once said i didnt like pac or pac sucks so u really dont know what you're talking about. I have my opinion on who wins but with reason so take it. i dont just ramble on saying oh Marquez will kim pac.

fist-of-fury
01-12-2005, 12:01 PM
I can see JMM & co. crying like babies over the spilt 750K!

But more than anyting, they should be crying like hell for bungling that rare chance to prove himself over Pacman!

What a bunch of i...sorry! :D

baya
01-12-2005, 12:19 PM
I really feel sorry for you idol JMM! I believe it's not him but his managers and promoter who were calling the shots. And what a stupid call to make! When they demanded 1.5M, I knew the fight won't push through. A case of JMM being with the wrong people at the wrong time? TOUGH LUCK! :(

tell me, newbie, how in all of your brilliance you likened jmm to being my idol?

you've just added yourself to the select group of stupid ****in' fanatical pac groupies. have an opinion of a fighter, like the smart pac, tito, cotto and hatton fans, not an obsession.

fist-of-fury
01-12-2005, 12:54 PM
tell me, newbie, how in all of your brilliance you likened jmm to being my idol?

you've just added yourself to the select group of stupid ****in' fanatical pac groupies. have an opinion of a fighter, like the smart pac, tito, cotto and hatton fans, not an obsession.
Well, you did say you're a "self confessed HUGE fan of marquez" and you were praising him to heavens. Anyway, sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I'm just expressing my personal opinions, just like you and the rest of all the posters here. So relax man, it's a free world!

By the way, I'm not a fanatical Pac fan and I'm not necessarily "obsessed" by him. It's just a case of admiration for a great fighter. And for your information, I have my opinions on the other divisions as well, but the Feather & Superfeather happens to be the most exciting group these days. Like they say, it's where the action is, so it's where I am right now.

baya
01-12-2005, 02:01 PM
Well, you did say you're a "self confessed HUGE fan of marquez" and you were praising him to heavens. Anyway, sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I'm just expressing my personal opinions, just like you and the rest of all the posters here. So relax man, it's a free world!

By the way, I'm not a fanatical Pac fan and I'm not necessarily "obsessed" by him. It's just a case of admiration for a great fighter. And for your information, I have my opinions on the other divisions as well, but the Feather & Superfeather happens to be the most exciting group these days. Like they say, it's where the action is, so it's where I am right now.


so i was praising him to heavens, eh? so according to your superior understanding .... if i said for example .... "cotto's left hook is awesome" i should expect more brilliance?

Mr. Ryan
01-12-2005, 02:04 PM
b4 anyone gets their panties in a bunch, i am a self confessed HUGE fan of marquez. i've always thought he is one of the most fundamentally sound boxers in the sport ... speed, combos, jab, great lateral and foot movement and good power and this even after his war w/ pac-man.

now, what he and his team did, request 1.5 million was a straight ***** move, first that little ***** winky, now, and this pains me like hell to say, this ***** marquez.

i'm very saddened that this fight isn't coming off, i'd always rather see pac in there w/ jmm.

berinstein should kick himself in the balls for this idiotic move he pulled, now whos jmm gonna fight.

in closing, stupid *******.
His belts are good enough to hold his pants up, not much else.

fist-of-fury
01-12-2005, 02:51 PM
so i was praising him to heavens, eh? so according to your superior understanding .... if i said for example .... "cotto's left hook is awesome" i should expect more brilliance?

Well, I'm gonna leave you to your own "understanding". You're entitled to your own opinion, I'm entitled to mine. And we're free to express them anywhere, anytime, to anyone. Like I said, it's a free world!

And like I also said, enjoy & relax man! Watch the blood pressure!!

Nice talking to you, mon ami!! :cool:

baya
01-12-2005, 04:09 PM
Well, I'm gonna leave you to your own "understanding". You're entitled to your own opinion, I'm entitled to mine. And we're free to express them anywhere, anytime, to anyone. Like I said, it's a free world!

And like I also said, enjoy & relax man! Watch the blood pressure!!

Nice talking to you, mon ami!! :cool:

aww **** man, nice talkin' to you too