View Full Version : Hopkins-Jones Question....


jabsRstiff
01-04-2006, 10:25 AM
I, myself, have very little interest in this fight.

But, I am wondering about something, & it's something that centers around the unique & strange way we fight fans view things....

If Bernard Hopkins convincingly defeats Roy Jones, are they even-up in their two-fight series ?

Jones won the first fight. It was a competitive fight, yet one that Roy won handily.
But, don't we all agree that neither guy was at their best at that point ? Weren't both quite "green" ?

Well, now they are at the opposite end of all that. They are far past their best. So, we never got to see them square off at their best.
Should Hopkins be given credit for standing the test of time better than did Roy Jones, should he convincingly defeat Roy ?

RAESAAD
01-04-2006, 10:29 AM
I, myself, have very little interest in this fight.

But, I am wondering about something, & it's something that centers around the unique & strange way we fight fans view things....

If Bernard Hopkins convincingly defeats Roy Jones, are they even-up in their two-fight series ?

Jones won the first fight. It was a competitive fight, yet one that Roy won handily.
But, don't we all agree that neither guy was at their best at that point ? Weren't both quite "green" ?

Well, now they are at the opposite end of all that. They are far past their best. So, we never got to see them square off at their best.
Should Hopkins be given credit for standing the test of time better than did Roy Jones, should he convincingly defeat Roy ?
Yes.......I think so especially since he started late due to incarceration and is the older of the 2 and seems like he fights younger from what we have seen from RJJ lately.

MISTA_SANDMAN
01-04-2006, 10:32 AM
YEP I agree----------- Yes.......I think so especially since he started late due to incarceration and is the older of the 2 and seems like he fights younger from what we have seen from RJJ lately.

marvdave
01-04-2006, 10:36 AM
I think the fight is meaningless..except for their respective bank accounts.

jabsRstiff
01-04-2006, 10:40 AM
I think the fight is meaningless..except for their respective bank accounts.

True...it means virtually nothing to the current state, & the future, of the entire sport....

But, what does it mean for their head-to-head series ?

marvdave
01-04-2006, 10:46 AM
True...it means virtually nothing to the current state, & the future, of the entire sport....

But, what does it mean for their head-to-head series ?

it probably means everything to them. The two biggest egos in the sport. To me and to history it is my opinion it means nothing.

jabsRstiff
01-04-2006, 10:49 AM
it probably means everything to them. The two biggest egos in the sport. To me and to history it is my opinion it means nothing.


You are evading the question...

Which is.....Does a Hopkins' victory even him up in the series (not numerically- an idiot can answer that)?

RAESAAD
01-04-2006, 10:52 AM
it probably means everything to them. The two biggest egos in the sport. To me and to history it is my opinion it means nothing.
I agree it means little too but you could answer the question at hand.LOL :p

marvdave
01-04-2006, 10:56 AM
You are evading the question...

Which is.....Does a Hopkins' victory even him up in the series (not numerically- an idiot can answer that)?


what the hell are you talking about.. I figure "it means nothing" answers all questions.

I guess this idiot can't comprehend the question :D

DiegoFuego
01-04-2006, 10:57 AM
I'll put it this way. If Hopkins wins this time, it's more than even. I'll remember Hopkins as the better fighter.

RAESAAD
01-04-2006, 10:58 AM
I'll put it this way. If Hopkins wins this time, it's more than even. I'll remember Hopkins as the better fighter.
Bam...........me too.

jabsRstiff
01-04-2006, 11:00 AM
what the hell are you talking about.. I figure "it means nothing" answers all questions.

I guess this idiot can't comprehend the question :D

You are missing the whole point !

I don't care what it means to the boxing world.....but what does it mean when deciding who got the better of each other, over all ?

jabsRstiff
01-04-2006, 11:09 AM
I'll put it this way. If Hopkins wins this time, it's more than even. I'll remember Hopkins as the better fighter.


yeah....so what if Jones wins ?

puppy_dogg
01-04-2006, 11:33 AM
im not sure about this one. i dont think it would have mattered much if hearns had got the decision in the 2nd fight with ray. i dont think people would have went on and on about how they were 'even' cause no one really gave a **** by the time they fought again. i kinda see it like that with jones- hopkins 2. this fight just does'nt mean much for either guy in terms of boxing history.

Truth
01-04-2006, 11:34 AM
I, myself, have very little interest in this fight.


Jabs you are the man, but I find it funny how people say they arn't interested in somthing but talk about it. Lets all be honest, the night of Hopkins vs. Jones were all going to be interested.lol :D

jabsRstiff
01-04-2006, 11:42 AM
Jabs you are the man, but I find it funny how people say they arn't interested in somthing but talk about it. Lets all be honest, the night of Hopkins vs. Jones were all going to be interested.lol :D


Not interested in buying it, that's for sure...& not interested in breaking the fight down.


This question is more about how people look at things, as fight fans.

I'm intrigued to know why their first fight means more than this one (in terms of head-to-head superiority), even though both were years away from their best, back then ?

Truth
01-04-2006, 11:46 AM
Not interested in buying it, that's for sure...& not interested in breaking the fight down.


This question is more about how people look at things, as fight fans.

I'm intrigued to know why their first fight means more than this one (in terms of head-to-head superiority), even though both were years away from their best, back then ?

To me the meaning of this fight is simple. Its one last chance to see two legends in a boxing ring.

DiegoFuego
01-04-2006, 11:47 AM
Simply put, if you pay money to see this, you need to get off Roy and Bernard's nuts

Truth
01-04-2006, 11:48 AM
Simply put, if you pay money to see this, you need to get off Roy and Bernard's nuts

Its Roy's last fight. You wouldn't order your favorite boxer's last fight?

DiegoFuego
01-04-2006, 11:49 AM
My favorite fighter would never stand around the ring and shake his ass for 12 rounds just to make it to the final bell.

Truth
01-04-2006, 11:50 AM
My favorite fighter would never stand around the ring and shake his ass for 12 rounds just to make it to the final bell.

Very true. :(

Mishra100
01-04-2006, 01:04 PM
My favorite fighter would never stand around the ring and shake his ass for 12 rounds just to make it to the final bell.

lmao nice post

THE REAL NINJA
01-04-2006, 02:30 PM
what i would like to know is how a guy lost only 2 fights very close fights to the same guy and now his career is over . i could see if he was beat by taylor and who ever but it's just one guy that had his number ...boxing has the worst case of bandwagon jumping out of all sports..on and off you go

adeelr
01-04-2006, 03:13 PM
i dont think this fight will end up happening. they will pull the plug on it. but if it does go through, one of em might win, which will mean nothing.

Yaman
01-04-2006, 03:35 PM
Its on and i really cant wait to watch it.

If you don't give a hell about this fight dont talk about it and try to be cool :rolleyes:

Zeroflip1
01-04-2006, 03:44 PM
i dont think this fight will end up happening. they will pull the plug on it. but if it does go through, one of em might win, which will mean nothing.

One of them might win? You're kidding me? In a fight with 2 fighters, only one of them is going to win?!?! This is insane, I demand explanations.

puppy_dogg
01-04-2006, 03:45 PM
One of them might win? You're kidding me? In a fight with 2 fighters, only one of them is going to win?!?! This is insane, I demand explanations.

Draw.......

DiegoFuego
01-04-2006, 03:45 PM
One of them might win? You're kidding me? In a fight with 2 fighters, only one of them is going to win?!?! This is insane, I demand explanations.

you never heard of a draw? also, he might have meant one guy will actually win convincingly as opposed to them just posing the whole fight and one guy winning a "decision" on the cards. the judges will have to score this fight on expressions and dance moves because I'm predicting less than 30 punches landed. so it comes down to how you score. do you like Jones' ass shaking or Hopkins' mean looks?

Zeroflip1
01-04-2006, 03:50 PM
..../Sarcasm

Londonerzz
01-04-2006, 04:07 PM
I'll put it this way. If Hopkins wins this time, it's more than even. I'll remember Hopkins as the better fighter.

thats stupid...like saying danny williams will be remembered as better fighter than tyson cos williams beat tyson at end of his career.