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sisforshaq
01-01-2006, 08:02 PM
Who are your most underrated lyricists today, I have a few but Im kinda faded and only can think of AZ and RZA.

oldgringo
01-01-2006, 08:23 PM
Everyone knows AZ is a lyrical monster...I don't think he's underrated in that regard. He is underrated overall though. So many people have slept on his albums...he's put out 6 good-great CDs as well as some hot mixtape **** too. On top of that you factor in timeless hip hop songs like Sugar Hill and Mo Money Mo Murda and it amounts to a guy that not many even consider to be a top 20 emcee all-time.

I guess what I just said applies to a lot of the people who I was going to list though so yeah I guess I'll look at it as lyricists who are underrated.

Pharoahe Monch
Tech N9ne
K-Rino
Capital D
Keith Murray

You never heard of these guys?

RAESAAD
01-01-2006, 08:25 PM
Lets be real and talk about cats people heard of....BiG Boi from Outkast is a great lyricist and nobody gives ya mam his Cred so I will here he is very underrated.

Oasis_Lad
01-01-2006, 09:02 PM
ozzy osbourne,ian curtis, ian brown

MetalVomit
01-01-2006, 09:16 PM
Everyone knows AZ is a lyrical monster...I don't think he's underrated in that regard. He is underrated overall though. So many people have slept on his albums...he's put out 6 good-great CDs as well as some hot mixtape **** too. On top of that you factor in timeless hip hop songs like Sugar Hill and Mo Money Mo Murda and it amounts to a guy that not many even consider to be a top 20 emcee all-time.

I guess what I just said applies to a lot of the people who I was going to list though so yeah I guess I'll look at it as lyricists who are underrated.

Pharoahe Monch
Tech N9ne
K-Rino
Capital D
Keith Murray

You never heard of these guys?


I swear to God, if Monch doesnt get a new album out soon, I'm going to ****ing cry. He's sick.

MetalVomit
01-02-2006, 01:09 AM
Ras Kass..................

oldgringo
01-02-2006, 01:52 AM
Ras Kass..................


Indeed. I was just listening to h2o proof a second ago.

While I mentioned Pharoahe...I forgot to mention Prince Po, who was an excellent lyricist in his own right.

Cee-Lo is an underrated lyricist. "I have milleniums of material and rivers of rhythm, an entire ocean of emotion that's enlightening to swim in, also a forest of feeling beaten paths of peace, trapped inside my silhouette I have to speak to release"

J-Live is a somewhat overlooked and obscure emcee. He's a very nice lyricist.

Also, Jim Jones :D

chito
01-02-2006, 07:48 AM
eddie brickel and natalie merchant.

Darkstar
01-03-2006, 04:04 AM
Project Pat

JDizzle79
01-03-2006, 04:10 AM
joe budden...he says some real **** on his album. wish he would drop another one just as good here soon

Soliloquy
01-03-2006, 12:27 PM
Chamillionaire. People really don't talk about him much but I think he has some sick ass verses/lyrics and he comes from the south where all they talk about is candypant and woodgrain.

The Fix
01-03-2006, 12:45 PM
masta killa...no one gives him his props. when people mention wu he is hardly mentioned but his album was top 5 in 2004.


btw monch is damn good

* listens to innervisions *

oldgringo
01-03-2006, 03:54 PM
You guys want to listen to a top 5 lyricist all-time stay tuned to my thread. [Pharoahe Monch] is a monster...his wordplay and lyrical ability has been at the top for 16 years now.

Verstyle
01-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Everyone knows AZ is a lyrical monster...I don't think he's underrated in that regard. He is underrated overall though. So many people have slept on his albums...he's put out 6 good-great CDs as well as some hot mixtape **** too. On top of that you factor in timeless hip hop songs like Sugar Hill and Mo Money Mo Murda and it amounts to a guy that not many even consider to be a top 20 emcee all-time.

I guess what I just said applies to a lot of the people who I was going to list though so yeah I guess I'll look at it as lyricists who are underrated.

Pharoahe Monch
Tech N9ne
K-Rino
Capital D
Keith Murray

You never heard of these guys?


on top of that i've never heard of him ever. :D

Verstyle
01-03-2006, 04:01 PM
Chamillionaire. People really don't talk about him much but I think he has some sick ass verses/lyrics and he comes from the south where all they talk about is candypant and woodgrain.


he's a metaphor genius like magnificent aka magno.

oldgringo
01-03-2006, 04:02 PM
on top of that i've never heard of him ever. :D


Which guy haven't you heard of?

I'll give you a sample on my thread.

MetalVomit
01-03-2006, 05:58 PM
on top of that i've never heard of him ever. :D

You got lots of catching up to do homie, I'm sure OG will hook you up.

Verstyle
01-03-2006, 07:28 PM
Which guy haven't you heard of?

I'll give you a sample on my thread.


AZ thats that 1 i never heard of

mic573
01-03-2006, 09:50 PM
AZ thats that 1 i never heard of

Get A.W.O.L. asap then you'll know who AZ is.

sisforshaq
01-03-2006, 09:57 PM
besdies internanal affairs, monch has what other solid albums? Im just wonderin ccuz I have affairs and cant find any other material, which upsets me.

RAESAAD
01-03-2006, 10:00 PM
Ras Kass..................
He was tight too and you know what as gay as it may sound Exibit has had some good flows way back when too.AZ AWOL is good but the **** with mo money mo murda mo homicide was a fine album as well.

RAESAAD
01-03-2006, 10:18 PM
He was tight too and you know what as gay as it may sound Exibit has had some good flows way back when too.AZ AWOL is good but the **** with mo money mo murda mo homicide was a fine album as well.
On the same note personally I really lied AZ 9 lives to.

mic573
01-03-2006, 10:32 PM
He was tight too and you know what as gay as it may sound Exibit has had some good flows way back when too.AZ AWOL is good but the **** with mo money mo murda mo homicide was a fine album as well.

That his first album Doe Or Die which is AZ's best album. I rate A.W.O.L. as his second best.

oldgringo
01-03-2006, 10:54 PM
besdies internanal affairs, monch has what other solid albums? Im just wonderin ccuz I have affairs and cant find any other material, which upsets me.


He has no other SOLO album besides Internal Affairs. His best work came with Prince Po, the other half of the incredible group named Organized Konfusion. They dropped three albums...all three are tight, but the one you need to get your hands on is "Stress: The Extinction Agenda".

Sis stay up with my thread i'll up some very representative songs of who Pharoahe and Organized Konfusion were.

oldgringo
01-03-2006, 10:55 PM
Monch was also with Rawkus for a long time and did some good **** on the soundbombing and lyricist lounge albums.

sisforshaq
01-03-2006, 10:55 PM
He has no other SOLO album besides Internal Affairs. His best work came with Prince Po, the other half of the incredible group named Organized Konfusion. They dropped three albums...all three are tight, but the one you need to get your hands on is "Stress: The Extinction Agenda".

Sis stay up with my thread i'll up some very representative songs of who Pharoahe and Organized Konfusion were.
Alright thanks man.

Yeah It pisses me off cuz hes real nice on the mic and I need some more of his work.

nevaless
01-03-2006, 11:09 PM
rass kass.

pjpj
01-29-2006, 07:38 AM
Sly Boogy

http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B7HUW3Q5QNME2BCRHJFOK2CO0

http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2H7OYV8K35LER0Z43L8PEEMGE6

The Fix
01-29-2006, 03:43 PM
He has no other SOLO album besides Internal Affairs. His best work came with Prince Po, the other half of the incredible group named Organized Konfusion. They dropped three albums...all three are tight, but the one you need to get your hands on is "Stress: The Extinction Agenda".

Sis stay up with my thread i'll up some very representative songs of who Pharoahe and Organized Konfusion were.
was innervisions not an official release?

i have both internal affairs and innervisions on my computer. tell me you heard innervisions....
ill give a track list and if you havent ill up the whole ****...

1.stadium
2.what is the law
3.ghetto world
4.oh no feat nate dogg
5.agent orange
6.i shot the mayor
7.new world symphony
8.yusuf saad - aljihad mob
9.gloriuos
10.fish fillet
11.got you
12. a song with saukretes, i dont have the title????
13.ti aint the money feat macy grey
14.do you hear what i hear
15.unbound projects feat jean grae and dead prez.


i cant be the only one who has this, gh you heard this right?
i did a search for it and it was to be released 05 but i dont know if it was or not. i have this **** for a while on my computer, since like the end 04 i think????

MetalVomit
01-29-2006, 05:25 PM
Gift of Gab

MetalVomit
01-29-2006, 05:26 PM
was innervisions not an official release?

i have both internal affairs and innervisions on my computer. tell me you heard innervisions....
ill give a track list and if you havent ill up the whole ****...

1.stadium
2.what is the law
3.ghetto world
4.oh no feat nate dogg
5.agent orange
6.i shot the mayor
7.new world symphony
8.yusuf saad - aljihad mob
9.gloriuos
10.fish fillet
11.got you
12. a song with saukretes, i dont have the title????
13.ti aint the money feat macy grey
14.do you hear what i hear
15.unbound projects feat jean grae and dead prez.


i cant be the only one who has this, gh you heard this right?
i did a search for it and it was to be released 05 but i dont know if it was or not. i have this **** for a while on my computer, since like the end 04 i think????


yeah, that's just a compilation of b-sides and side project tracks. Monch's only album is Internal Affairs.

MetalVomit
01-29-2006, 05:28 PM
He has no other SOLO album besides Internal Affairs. His best work came with Prince Po, the other half of the incredible group named Organized Konfusion. They dropped three albums...all three are tight, but the one you need to get your hands on is "Stress: The Extinction Agenda".

Sis stay up with my thread i'll up some very representative songs of who Pharoahe and Organized Konfusion were.


Them OK albums are ridiculous. I think I only have The Extinction Agenda and Equinox.

oldgringo
01-29-2006, 06:30 PM
Gift of Gab


hell yeah...gab is real nice on the mic.

'Whole house freeze!'

It was a Thursday I stepped to the club, there she was
Draped in a burgundy dress, silhouetted superbly
Curved indeed, she started staring in my direction
Luring and urging seductively, body language instructing me
I offered her a drink instead she took a cup of tea
And then I lied about my luxury lifestyle
I said 'So who you be? You looking kind of tight, gal
I would love to see you in a nightgown'
She said 'They call me the Dragon Queen and I come from Tibet
I'm calm in the face of pressure and you'll never see me sweat
I've come to your country in search of a lost Scroll
That contains directions to a hidden village comprised of gold'
I looked at her confused and said 'But why have you told me
this?'
She said the description that I fit
Was that of the Chosen One who'd go beyond
Then slipped a concoction in my drink
Immediately set my consciousness adrift�

Now I'm in that zone dwelling, I woke in a warehouse tied to a
chair
With an abundance of flair surrounding me in a circular angle
Glared up at the Dragon Queen's lair, wasn't imagining a thing
Her steps on the stairs had a magic Gleam, glowed brightly
To prepare me for my journey a Sword was hovering towards me
Plus garlic from the Keepers of the Gate who bore all the
secrets and take
Care of trespassers, but at last it's prophesied that I would
gain
Access to a cultural dynasty buried and seize and capture the
Scroll
Massive helicopters patrolled the rooftops, strapped in
Began travelling into the darkness, knew not of what awaited
Thought of a way to get out of it, just then the bottom gave way
I began falling and gave it ten seconds, pulled the cord on my
parachute
Landed surrounded by a herd of wild barracudas, lions
The sounds of the wild kingdom piercing like a siren
Was I entering near the mere mortal life span's end?
Defiantly I stood boldly as they began closing in
And time seemed to be moving rapidly just then�


'Whole house freeze!'

Just then I pulled the Sword and somehow
It affected all the creatures as they stepped back and bowed
And the same Glow that I seen in the Sword I seen in the eyes of
the Lion
Who began leading me in a specific direction as if trying to
tell me something
Just over the horizon, the same creatures who had been described
Appeared in statue form but their eyes scoped
And as I approached the gate they began to break open and cried
'AFTER YEARS WE HAVE FINALLY BEEN AWAKENED!'
The assault was on, I got knocked to the ground by one
Shocked in an unorthodox form boxing
Throwing an abnormal proportion of body blows, karate chops
And drop kicks, plunged struggling deeper into the swamp
Then I grabbed my Sword, the garlic put it around my neck
Saw that it was draining all of their energy and then with a
swing
Off with their heads!
The gates slowly and mysteriously opened
So curiously I moseyed in with intensity focusing on my
objective
Spider webs the size of king-size beds
Fell into a secret passage not knowing to where it lead
Just then the same Light beamed brightly and in the distance
At that instance, lo and behold, the hidden Scroll!
And just as I thought my mission was over
I could feel the Dragon Queen breathing heavily over my shoulder

As she began to transform and metamorphosise
She took on an assortment of legs, arms, heads and eyes
And sprouted two horns and began to breathe fire
So once again I grabbed my trusty Sword but to my astonishment
She burned it to a crisp turned and grasped the Scroll
And exited much faster than secreted gas, I'm gasping
Clasp full of flames cast in my direction
I saw my whole life flash and the possibility of death
And a casket passed into the ground, pound for pound, astounding
How could I survive and last another round inside this madness?



this song is pure madness...

MetalVomit
01-29-2006, 07:23 PM
OG, have you heard "My pad and pen" from The Craft album? Lyrically, impossible.

The Fix
01-30-2006, 02:16 AM
yeah, that's just a compilation of b-sides and side project tracks. Monch's only album is Internal Affairs.
thats what i was thinking cause i was searching for an official release but all that came up was forum rumors and ****...

jspivey
01-30-2006, 03:46 PM
Kurupt
Xzibit
E-40

The Fix
01-30-2006, 07:54 PM
kurupt fell off.....

ciscofromoc
02-13-2006, 12:25 AM
As dude said earlier,, Chamillionaire is a great lyricist, another great one is in ATL by the name of T-Rock formerly with Hypnotize Minds.

Two Fisted Piston
02-13-2006, 06:59 AM
Canibus is the best underated lyricist that I can think of at the moment...
The dudes vocab is ****in amazing,wordplay is crazy,flow is tight, metaphors are better than GZAs.

Wordsworth is a sick underground cat...
He is also an amazing lyricist

Masta Killa,Inspecta Deck,Killah Priest(similar to Canibus),Ghostface are all underated aswell

lopez12
02-16-2006, 03:45 PM
Im glad somebody is givin AZ some props he is one of the nicest
Im dyin to hear a Nas Az album, i guess AZ would have to get sales up 1st though

2nd II none
02-16-2006, 05:25 PM
Kurupt
Xzibit
E-40



Those two are lyrical assassins.

MetalVomit
02-16-2006, 05:57 PM
Crooked I, Chino XL, Kurupt, Tech N9ne, Ras Kass...are all underrated.

2nd II none
02-18-2006, 12:04 AM
I honestly have to throw Method Man into any conversation about lyrical skills.

lopez12
02-22-2006, 11:46 AM
GURU of Gangstarr

Big R
02-22-2006, 04:31 PM
fat joe...

nisMOFO
02-22-2006, 07:54 PM
I honestly have to throw Method Man into any conversation about lyrical skills.



i agree with that. Method man and kurupt.

SecondRoundKO
02-26-2006, 04:50 AM
Lyrics Born...

IAm...
02-26-2006, 02:48 PM
Lyrics Born...
anyone got any old school/underground Xzibit?

the traveler
03-02-2006, 06:51 PM
I agree with the guy that said Guru. Ras Kass is in no way an underrated lyricist. Everyone that listens to the guy, says that he's one of the top lyricist. Also, Canibus isn't an underrated lyricist, are you serious? Just about 7 years ago people were calling him one of the greatest lyricist ever. He definetly gets his respects in that area.

I'd say that the most underrated lyricist has to be Tupac. I've been on alot of rap boards, and the general opinion on them is that he's overrated and has average lyrical skills. For something like that to be said about a guy that dropped alot of heartfelt and deep lyrics, shows that he's one of the most underrated lyricist in rap.

jspivey
03-02-2006, 08:13 PM
Andre from OutKast
Styles P
MJG (8ball does spit fire, but i don't people give MJG enough props. Dude is ill)
And i'm goin out on a limb but i throw in Ja Rule too.Besides the bubblegum hits dude could spit when he wanted too.