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Why only WBC???

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Why only WBC???
sanctioning fees maybe he dont want to pay all the others or the price is to high

I don't know exactly why this is, but I assume it was an idea that the promoters Arum and King came up with. We all know that the sanctioning bodies are corrupt and can be bought and sold, so I'm purely guessing that King has some doubt that Judah will beat Mayweather, so even if Floyd wins, Judah will still have the WBA and IBF belts.

I don't know exactly why this is, but I assume it was an idea that the promoters Arum and King came up with. We all know that the sanctioning bodies are corrupt and can be bought and sold, so I'm purely guessing that King has some doubt that Judah will beat Mayweather, so even if Floyd wins, Judah will still have the WBA and IBF belts.
could be i know johnny tapia did something like this some time back over sanctioning fees and all the probs with promoters

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Why only WBC???

i asked this very same question in another thread, no one replyed to me. :mad:

im just glad that theyre fighting for a title.

a fight this big needs to be for a title.

The answer is simple.

Floyd's demanding the Lions share of the purse, and if the titles were on the line, technically, Judah would be entitled to more money.

Judah took a small purse to make the fight happen.

For him to have all the titles on the line and take a small purse would be unfair.

Both guys have admitted the winner will be the man at 147.

I don't know exactly why this is, but I assume it was an idea that the promoters Arum and King came up with. We all know that the sanctioning bodies are corrupt and can be bought and sold, so I'm purely guessing that King has some doubt that Judah will beat Mayweather, so even if Floyd wins, Judah will still have the WBA and IBF belts.
What will WBA and IBF belts be worth if Judah loses to PBF? Absolutely nothing.

he can still make money with them? with mandatorys.. it will generate $$$$

What will WBA and IBF belts be worth if Judah loses to PBF? Absolutely nothing.

Technically those belts would still be considered world champsionships, even if PBF becomes the true champ.

Technically those belts would still be considered world champsionships, even if PBF becomes the true champ.

Technically yes, but I don't think they'll be worth anything since the winner of this fight will become the real champ. Belts don't mean anything in this fight IMO.

What will WBA and IBF belts be worth if Judah loses to PBF? Absolutely nothing.

the same as before the fight...nothing. you're an idiot if you put any worth into holding any of the belts.

the same as before the fight...nothing. you're an idiot if you put any worth into holding any of the belts.


Incorrect.

While the titles hold no significant meaning, they do ensure high % purse split agaisnt mandatory challengers. IE Money.

the same as before the fight...nothing. you're an idiot if you put any worth into holding any of the belts.

The fighters don't seem to feel that way. To most fighters the belts mean something.

Incorrect.

While the titles hold no significant meaning, they do ensure high % purse split agaisnt mandatory challengers. IE Money.

i was hopeing it would have helped zab more. any update on zab/floyd purse. last i read it was 3.5 to 9 floyd. i wonder if that includes ppv,cable rights,etc.
i hope this comes back to bite floyd on the ass.

It is 100% because of sanctioning fees, nothing else. This match is only being sanctioned by the WBC as a title fight. That means both fighters only pay the WBC 3% of their purses instead of 9% to all 3 sanctioning bodies. Someone said it is 9 million to 3.5, so that's 12.5 million. 3% of 12.5 million = 375,000. 9% would be 1,125,000, or three times as much. It is completely economic.

If Judah loses, which isn't happening, he won't be considered the champ by anybody really.

Technically those belts would still be considered world champsionships, even if PBF becomes the true champ.

Fighters make belts not the other way around.

Incorrect.

While the titles hold no significant meaning, they do ensure high % purse split agaisnt mandatory challengers. IE Money.

i said this in my post? dam no one listens to me :confused:

Another issue is that assuming Floyd wins a reasonably competitive bout (ie not Mayweather-Gatti part II), Judah can use the other two titles as hook to secure a reasonable purse share in the rematch though obviously he would get less than he gotthe first time around

Pretty Boy Floyd only needs the WBC to become a 4-division champ.

Never hurts to have any bits of leverage yopu can muster in a negotiation. And remember this is presuming the first fight was interesting enough to justify a rematch. If it isn't then Zab's two titles will entitle him to a career of fighting Carlos Baldamir's for mandatory purses and absolutely nothing more.

Pretty Boy Floyd only needs the WBC to become a 4-division champ.

how do you work that one out then mate?
to be a undisputed champ you need all the major titles and you need to fight the number 1 contenders.

how do you work that one out then mate?
to be a undisputed champ you need all the major titles and you need to fight the number 1 contenders.

I didn't say anything about undisputed champ.
I said 4 division champ.
He won the WBC at: 130,135,140 & he's going on to fight for the WBC at 147lbs.
Wouldn't winning it at 147lbs. make him a 4-division champ?

I didn't say anything about undisputed champ.
I said 4 division champ.
He won the WBC at: 130,135,140 & he's going on to fight for the WBC at 147lbs.
Wouldn't winning it at 147lbs. make him a 4-division champ?

oppz sorrry, my bad, didnt read what you sed.
yeah your rite.. he will be a 4 division champ

Besides, once floyd is a four division champ, that can no longer be a career goal. The only question will be is there a reason for Mayweather-Judah II. If so, It will happen.

Besides, once floyd is a four division champ, that can no longer be a career goal. The only question will be is there a reason for Mayweather-Judah II. If so, It will happen.

why does judah talk so much ****?

can someone confirm whether he talked **** before the zoo fight?
if he did, well you saw what happened.

Of course he talked and talked before fighting Tsuyu. Unfortunately, after failing to back up his words he promptly went nuts in the ring. Exactly what was Jay Nady supposed to do after Judah's dance? Assume that a fighter who was the picture of being knocked out was prepared to continue fighting one of the more powerful punchers in the sport? Hopefully Judah has learned something from his only previous megafight experience or has matchup against floyd will not justify the PPV fee.

Of course he talked and talked before fighting Tsuyu. Unfortunately, after failing to back up his words he promptly went nuts in the ring. Exactly what was Jay Nady supposed to do after Judah's dance? Assume that a fighter who was the picture of being knocked out was prepared to continue fighting one of the more powerful punchers in the sport? Hopefully Judah has learned something from his only previous megafight experience or has matchup against floyd will not justify the PPV fee.

didnt Judah shuvv his gloove into jay nadys throat?, what an idiot man. the ref saved his ass. judah is a *****

Yes, that was Zab Judah the last time he was on a big time stage