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Pound4Pound1986
10-02-2004, 08:30 PM
it will be up sat. october 16, the categories are

MVP of the week - "most valuable poster":

Rookie of the month - best newbie:

Funniest poster of the week:

Most informative poster of the week:

Most active thread/topic:

Avatar of the week:

Biggest Idiot of the week:

i'll put you on the list all you have to do is PM me with your picks for the next M.U.

remember you must have 100 posts in order to be on the M.U.

SonnyG8R
10-02-2004, 08:35 PM
it will be up sat. october 16, the categories are

MVP of the week - "most valuable poster":

Rookie of the month - best newbie:

Funniest poster of the week:

Most informative poster of the week:

Most active thread/topic:

Avatar of the week:

i'll put you on the list all you have to do is PM me with your picks for the next M.U.

remember you must have 100 posts in order to be on the M.U.


No "Biggest Idiot"? :D

Pound4Pound1986
10-02-2004, 08:37 PM
No "Biggest Idiot"? :D

o S** i forgot ok also Biggest Idiot of the week:

Dark Destroyer
10-03-2004, 07:11 AM
Cool i'll be sure to PM you my choices soon. Welcome back by the way Pound4Pound1986. :D

Sir_Ivan
10-03-2004, 07:20 AM
it will be up sat. october 16, the categories are

MVP of the week - "most valuable poster":

Rookie of the month - best newbie:

Funniest poster of the week:

Most informative poster of the week:

Most active thread/topic:

Avatar of the week:

Biggest Idiot of the week:

i'll put you on the list all you have to do is PM me with your picks for the next M.U.

remember you must have 100 posts in order to be on the M.U.

Hmmm.. I'm sorry I'm just new here. But what does M.U. stands for? I hope this question will not put me in line with idiot of the month. :(

Dark Destroyer
10-03-2004, 07:23 AM
Hmmm.. I'm sorry I'm just new here. But what does M.U. stands for? I hope this question will not put me in line with idiot of the month. :(

It means member update, Pound4pound86 kindly gets all the stats of the users of this forum together and finds out who is the best poster and favourite etc. You have to send him a private message with your entries.

:D It won't put you in the idiot of the month section for asking. Your new here so it's acceptable, although don't do it again. ;)

Sir_Ivan
10-03-2004, 07:34 AM
It means member update, Pound4pound86 kindly gets all the stats of the users of this forum together and finds out who is the best poster and favourite etc. You have to send him a private message with your entries.

:D It won't put you in the idiot of the month section for asking. Your new here so it's acceptable, although don't do it again. ;)

yeah. thanks to you. :)

Pound4Pound1986
10-03-2004, 04:57 PM
thanks for explaining it

im out, PEACE

Pound4Pound1986
10-03-2004, 05:10 PM
ok im trying to get this thing organized

heres are the categories

MVP of the week - "most valuable poster":

Rookie of the month - best newbie:

Funniest poster of the week:

Most informative poster of the week:

Most active thread/topic:

Avatar of the week:

Biggest Idiot of the week:

ok so far i got

Sonny
Wez

all you have to do is post on this thread and send in your picks

oldgringo
10-03-2004, 06:05 PM
Cool I'll send ya my picks.

Pound4Pound1986
10-03-2004, 07:00 PM
ok thanks, i got them

Pound4Pound1986
10-04-2004, 12:18 AM
ok from where it at its going to be from 10-20 people on it and when you vote for someone you can write a lil description on why. im hoping on making this one way better than the last one.

Wez
OldGringo x
Sonny
TracyLee x
Jose
Dr_Cynical

the ones with the X's are the one that had sended me the picks already
sorry Sir_Ivan doesnt have 100 posts to be in it

puppy_dogg
10-04-2004, 12:34 AM
what about yoko p4p?

Pound4Pound1986
10-04-2004, 12:38 AM
Wez
OldGringo X
Sonny
TracyLee X
Jose
Dr_Cynical
Yoko

i got you

Prostitroop
10-04-2004, 12:40 AM
Is this **** really necessary? :rolleyes:

Sir_Ivan
10-07-2004, 11:14 AM
ok from where it at its going to be from 10-20 people on it and when you vote for someone you can write a lil description on why. im hoping on making this one way better than the last one.

Wez
OldGringo x
Sonny
TracyLee x
Jose
Dr_Cynical

the ones with the X's are the one that had sended me the picks already
sorry Sir_Ivan doesnt have 100 posts to be in it

its ok. i understand. cant wait to see the result. :)

tracylee
10-07-2004, 11:22 AM
Is this **** really necessary? :rolleyes:


Hey, its all in fun ;)

Pound4Pound1986
10-07-2004, 11:03 PM
Wez
OldGringo X
Sonny
TracyLee X
Jose X
Dr_Cynical X
Yoko
Pound4Pound1986 X

ok theres a new rule people cant vote for each other, if people keep voting for each other how is someone going to win

o yeah, funny how evosbm isnt here any longer but you people keep voting him as idiot of the week

oldgringo
10-08-2004, 01:13 AM
Wez
OldGringo X
Sonny
TracyLee X
Jose X
Dr_Cynical X
Yoko
Pound4Pound1986 X

ok theres a new rule people cant vote for each other, if people keep voting for each other how is someone going to win

o yeah, funny how evosbm isnt here any longer but you people keep voting him as idiot of the week

HAHA...just shows how truely idiotic he really was.

Jose, Gringo, Ultimate, anyone else who likes Morales are chiken gays.

tracylee
10-08-2004, 11:36 AM
HAHA...just shows how truely idiotic he really was.

Jose, Gringo, Ultimate, anyone else who likes Morales are chiken gays.

OH NO!! I'm a chicken gay!! :(

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 11:41 AM
That guy who posted the white supremist web site has to be the idiot of the week.

PacKillsMorales
10-08-2004, 11:49 AM
reply to my pms for once sonny...its like throwing pennies into a wishing well and never getting your wish :D

tracylee
10-08-2004, 11:54 AM
reply to my pms for once sonny...its like throwing pennies into a wishing well and never getting your wish :D

Yeah, and mine too please

PacKillsMorales
10-08-2004, 11:56 AM
Yeah, and mine too please
lol hes just replyed to mine babes....haha :D
i suppose your next lol...so no haha :D really... :confused:

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 12:04 PM
lol hes just replyed to mine babes....haha :D
i suppose your next lol...so no haha :D really... :confused:


Just sent you 3000 points. Use them wisely.

abdiel2k3
10-08-2004, 12:08 PM
it will be up sat. october 16, the categories are

MVP of the week - "most valuable poster":

Rookie of the month - best newbie:

Funniest poster of the week:

Most informative poster of the week:

Most active thread/topic:

Avatar of the week:

Biggest Idiot of the week:

i'll put you on the list all you have to do is PM me with your picks for the next M.U.

remember you must have 100 posts in order to be on the M.U.

is this the same p4p from b4?
if it is welcome back
or did someone just jack his name and add a 1986

tracylee
10-08-2004, 12:24 PM
lol hes just replyed to mine babes....haha :D
i suppose your next lol...so no haha :D really... :confused:


If that's the case, it would seem his priorities are a little mixed up, huh? :p Uh, bank 'em Snig..I will steal them!!

PacKillsMorales
10-08-2004, 12:34 PM
If that's the case, it would seem his priorities are a little mixed up, huh? :p Uh, bank 'em Snig..I will steal them!!
i was gettin stoned and was lucky to have my points still intact...ive made a couple of g so far..lost a g but made it back... :D

tracylee
10-08-2004, 12:38 PM
i was gettin stoned and was lucky to have my points still intact...ive made a couple of g so far..lost a g but made it back... :D

made a g, or stole a g?? :D

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 12:40 PM
i was gettin stoned and was lucky to have my points still intact...ive made a couple of g so far..lost a g but made it back... :D


:D What kind of ganga you smokin?

oldgringo
10-08-2004, 01:18 PM
OH NO!! I'm a chicken gay!! :(

Yes Tracy...you too are a chiken and you're gay to boot. ;) I'm trying to save enough money to change my little name. It's almost done...

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:01 PM
Yes Tracy...you too are a chiken and you're gay to boot. ;) I'm trying to save enough money to change my little name. It's almost done...


Oh no, I had no idea! The horror, the shame :D

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:08 PM
tracylee, I'm online!!!!

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:13 PM
tracylee, I'm online!!!!

Okay, I'm sending it now :)

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:14 PM
Okay, I'm sending it now :)
k thanks..... :D

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:17 PM
k thanks..... :D

Youre welcome. I withdrew what I needed but it will be a min. before I can donate it (the delay)..so keep your eye's open for it so nobody else get's it!

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:18 PM
Youre welcome. I withdrew what I needed but it will be a min. before I can donate it (the delay)..so keep your eye's open for it so nobody else get's it!
I'm going to keep refreshing this damn thing and watch it like a hawk. I just hope the boss doesn't come in anytime soon. :D

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 02:21 PM
Damn, I just got like 8,000 points stolen.

Oh well, easy come - easy go.

Nice job you thieving bastards :D

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:23 PM
you had that much out of the bank? or were you trying to go at it again?

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:24 PM
got it tl..... thanks.

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:24 PM
you had that much out of the bank? or were you trying to go at it again?


No, just a mess up..I just donated it and you should have it soon.

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:25 PM
Damn, I just got like 8,000 points stolen.

Oh well, easy come - easy go.

Nice job you thieving bastards :D

Do you need a donation? I dont have 8000 but I can help a little

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:28 PM
No, just a mess up..I just donated it and you should have it soon.
no, lol.... that was directed at Sonny Tl. I banked your donation as soon as it was updated. Thanks.

abdiel2k3
10-08-2004, 02:28 PM
Do you need a donation? I dont have 8000 but I can help a little

uh uh i just lost 150
wish i could getem back
lol

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 02:28 PM
you had that much out of the bank? or were you trying to go at it again?


I was going to purchase a bold user name. I'm wondering if I can have a bold and glowing blue user name or if it is just 1 or the other. The cash was exposed because of the damn delay, :mad: and then I was reading pm's.

I wish there were more things to purchase from the store.

The only thing left to get is super member status, which costs a fortune.

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 02:30 PM
Do you need a donation? I dont have 8000 but I can help a little

No sweety, I'm good.

Thanks though.

kepsy
10-08-2004, 02:31 PM
I was going to purchase a bold user name. I'm wondering if I can have a bold and glowing blue user name or if it is just 1 or the other. The cash was exposed because of the damn delay, :mad: and then I was reading pm's.

I wish there were more things to purchase from the store.

The only thing left to get is super member status, which costs a fortune.
:D the thieves around here are like hyenas waiting to pounce... lol. A couple of them went at it from the looks of it.

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:33 PM
uh uh i just lost 150
wish i could getem back
lol

Give me a min. and I'll donate that much back to you

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:35 PM
I donated it to you...better bank it!

oldgringo
10-08-2004, 02:39 PM
Kick ass I finally got my custom name changed back to it's original form. I'm now accepting all donations...feel free, don't be stingy I have plenty of room for more cash money. :cool:

SonnyG8R
10-08-2004, 02:41 PM
It costs 500 points plus 5% to attempt to steal, so it is really pointless to go after less than 1500 points.

Why spend 575 points to steal 150?

oldgringo
10-08-2004, 02:43 PM
:D the thieves around here are like hyenas waiting to pounce... lol. A couple of them went at it from the looks of it.

I have to make sure they don't steal my 0.45 points! Those ****ers will steal anything these days...

tracylee
10-08-2004, 02:44 PM
It costs 500 points plus 5% to attempt to steal, so it is really pointless to go after less than 1500 points.

Why spend 575 points to steal 150?

Good point!

oldgringo
10-08-2004, 02:46 PM
It costs 500 points plus 5% to attempt to steal, so it is really pointless to go after less than 1500 points.

Why spend 575 points to steal 150?

Because those thieves are rat bastards. Take you for every last penny if they can. I don't think anyone has ever stolen from me. I'm pretty proud of that (that'll come back and bite me in the ass later) :(

tracylee
10-08-2004, 04:33 PM
Hey Kepsy, how ya doing in the thieving industry??

Pound4Pound1986
10-08-2004, 04:35 PM
is sonny donating money? i'll be happy to get some.

kepsy
10-08-2004, 06:39 PM
Hey Kepsy, how ya doing in the thieving industry??
Haven't started yet, just got home and about to go out again. I will shneak myshelf when everyone's ashleep... eheheheh :D

Pound4Pound1986
10-10-2004, 12:08 AM
bump

send in your picks

Pound4Pound1986
10-11-2004, 01:50 AM
~BUMP~

is anyone interested in this?

MVP of the week - "most valuable poster":

Rookie of the month - best newbie:

Funniest poster of the week:

Most informative poster of the week:

Most active thread/topic:

Avatar of the week:

Biggest Idiot of the week:

PM me with your picks for each category

p.s. dont vote for yourself

Pound4Pound1986
10-13-2004, 12:35 AM
im about to do the M.U. in a minute if anyone can send their picks i have a couple, im going to pick 20 random names to start with, its going to be hard to put in stuff but the second 1 would be better

tracylee
10-13-2004, 10:25 AM
im about to do the M.U. in a minute if anyone can send their picks i have a couple, im going to pick 20 random names to start with, its going to be hard to put in stuff but the second 1 would be better

Have you added biggest crybaby of the week/month yet??

SonnyG8R
10-13-2004, 12:23 PM
I sent you my MU picks p4p.

We need more categories. How about...

"Member you would like to kill" :mad:

"Member you would like to F*ck" :D

"Member you suspect of having a split personality" - 2 persona's by the same person like Damien and Zabkills. :confused:

"Most entertaining member battle" - tracylee vs. WEZ gets my pick this week. :eek:

"Most successful thief" Hmm, who could that be?

tracylee
10-13-2004, 12:34 PM
I sent you my MU picks p4p. I also made a recommendation to change most "infromative poster" to "most interesting poster."


"Most entertaining member battle" - tracylee vs. WEZ gets my pick this week. :eek:

Hey, that wasnt a battle. Out of everyone here he is the only one that I actually asked to vouch for my kid, and he said no. That is why I thought he had to have alot of nerve to then come back and post on that thread about the Dr. getting out of line...like wtf?!? All I did was say "now you want to join in"..that's it. I cant help that he once again freaked out. I sent him an apology for embarrassing him, but I dont know if he is reading my mail. Honestly, I'm getting to the point where I dont care anymore; I cant deal with the drama and hysterics. You have to admit, my comment wasnt THAT bad...I mean damn :rolleyes: If it struck such a big nerve, there must be a reason for it.
But it wasnt by any stretch of the imagination a "battle"...kinda hard when one of the posters 'has his say' and then put's the other on his ignore list out of spite..and I'm still getting mail about "jilted ex syndrome"...stop it ya'll. I KNOW...

SonnyG8R
10-13-2004, 12:39 PM
Hey, that wasnt a battle. Out of everyone here he is the only one that I actually asked to vouch for my kid, and he said no. That is why I thought he had to have alot of nerve to then come back and post on that thread about the Dr. getting out of line...like wtf?!? All I did was say "now you want to join in"..that's it. I cant help that he once again freaked out. I sent him an apology for embarrassing him, but I dont know if he is reading my mail. Honestly, I'm getting to the point where I dont care anymore; I cant deal with the drama and hysterics. You have to admit, my comment wasnt THAT bad...I mean damn :rolleyes: If it struck such a big nerve, there must be a reason for it.
But it wasnt by any stretch of the imagination a "battle"...kinda hard when one of the posters 'has his say' and then put's the other on his ignore list out of spite..and I'm still getting mail about "jilted ex syndrome"...stop it ya'll. I KNOW...

I know tlc, it's still entertaining though. btw, nice dig with the "jilted ex syndrome" thing. Are you going to stand for that WEZ? :D

tracylee
10-13-2004, 12:52 PM
I know tlc, it's still entertaining though. btw, nice dig with the "jilted ex syndrome" thing. Are you going to stand for that WEZ? :D

I didnt mean it as a dig; I SWEAR to that. I am still getting all kind's of mess. saying that and alot more, and theres no need for it. That was my way of letting everybody know that they dont have to keep mailing me on that issue. He's not reading my posts anyway remember...I'm being punished :rolleyes: so there's no way it could be a "dig" when I know he's not gonna read it anyway. ;)

Dark Destroyer
10-13-2004, 12:54 PM
I know tlc, it's still entertaining though. btw, nice dig with the "jilted ex syndrome" thing. Are you going to stand for that WEZ? :D

Sonny thats all she can do is "dig". As for the Dr i said he was ok but i could understand why he got banned. Like i said earlier WOMEN :rolleyes: Tracy likes to make mountains out of mole hills, it's maybe because she leads such a boring laid back life of sitting on here posting ALL day. When "she" and the Dr were arguing she kept on baiting him in by *****ing about him on other threads and then acting all innocent when he attacked her again. The Dr did go too far and now he's paid the price. She isn't going to get the satisfaction of getting me warned and banned.

BTW the ignore option is a great invention although i still read "it's" posts if they are quoted but at least i don't have to see the avatar. lol

Even today she still had to make a comment about it to you now, she could have simply chose not to have said anything at all about what you said Sonny.

As for the "Jilted Ex Syndrome" you work out who has the problem here, i'm not the fool dragging this onto the boards, she is. ;)

tracylee
10-13-2004, 01:00 PM
Sonny thats all she can do is "dig". As for the Dr i said he was ok but i could understand why he got banned. Like i said earlier WOMEN :rolleyes: Tracy likes to make mountains out of mole hills, it's maybe because she leads such a boring laid back life of sitting on here posting ALL day. When "she" and the Dr were arguing she kept on baiting him in by *****ing about him on other threads and then acting all innocent when he attacked her again. The Dr did go too far and now he's paid the price. She isn't going to get the satisfaction of getting me warned and banned.

BTW the ignore option is a great invention although i still read "it's" posts if they are quoted but at least i don't have to see the avatar. lol

Even today she still had to make a comment about it to you now, she could have simply chose not to have said anything at all about what you said Sonny.

As for the "Jilted Ex Syndrome" you work out who has the problem here, i'm not the fool dragging this onto the boards, she is. ;)

You are so immature. You are the one that said to me long ago that if anyone ever said or did anything to hurt my kid you'd kick their ass...and you didnt deliver. You never do, that is your problem. So now I'm an "it"...funny you wanted to marry this "it"..thank God I got smart when I did! Grow up and learn to take an apology for God's sake. It makes sense that you'd make a persoanl insult about my avatar; if the photo is so bad why dont you send it back to me? Youre the one with the photo, and the one that helped me put it up as my avatar. As ugly as it get's, I've never implied that you were unattractive cause I'm an adult and not out to draw blood.
Just cause my kid isnt here and I ENJOY posting doesnt mean I dont have a life...what the hell happened to you? You use to be so calm, cool and sensible..now youre just a big, whining cry baby that goes against everything you ever said to me by making cheap shots about me being an "it" and being ugly..wtf?

And nobody is stupid enough to believe that youre not reading everything I post..keep fooling yourself; youre good at it.

Oh, and you can stop following me around the forum posting after each of my posts; it gives me the creeps.

m00ks
10-13-2004, 01:09 PM
:eek: Revelations..... :eek:

Dark Destroyer
10-13-2004, 01:21 PM
Whatever :rolleyes: Your the one who keeps bringing this on the boards not me. Just let go, i know it's lonely in the backwoods but you'll get over me. ;)

As for posting after you all the time what are you on? CRACK? HEROIN? Get over yourself :rolleyes:

Guys trust me when i say this "NEVER BE FRIENDLY WITH INTERNET WOMEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES"

Final message to Tracy

You tell me to grow up but i think you need to look at your response to me. You always like to look all innocent don't you because after all this forum is the highlight of your life. I thought all this was history but you keep dragging it up again and again when i was just plodding along nicely. How boring indeed. Goodbye my little retarded .......er........poster :eek: as this WILL be the last time i bless you with my pressense.

tracylee
10-13-2004, 01:24 PM
Whatever :rolleyes: Your the one who keeps bringing this on the boards not me. Just let go, i know it's lonely in the backwoods but you'll get over me. ;)

As for posting after you all the time what are you on? CRACK? HEROIN? Get over yourself :rolleyes:

Guys trust me when i say this "NEVER BE FRIENDLY WITH INTERNET WOMEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES"

Final message to Tracy

You tell me to grow up but i think you need to look at your response to me. You always like to look all innocent don't you because after all this forum is the highlight of your life. I thought all this was history but you keep dragging it up again and again when i was just plodding along nicely. How boring indeed. Goodbye my little retarded .......er........poster :eek: as this WILL be the last time i bless you with my pressense.
Bless me with your presence? What a joke, now youre making me sick. In love with yourself?
I think youre confused; I broke it off with you remember? I do, cause you went into hysterics.
Backwood? I remember you mommy getting sooooo mad cause you wanted to move here to these backwoods and out of her house.
This forum isnt the highlight of my life and you know it and even said so many times on the phone, etc...cause you know that Amber has that title. But, when you dont have any valid point, just make **** up. Liars are good at that.
Little retard? That was beneath even you, I thought.

m00ks
10-13-2004, 01:35 PM
All women have issues....er no offense to da females

tracylee
10-13-2004, 01:53 PM
All women have issues....er no offense to da females

At least I dont make thing's up, and I dont stoop to the level of Dr.Cynical by insulting peoples looks, location and lifestyle, etc...just cause I cant dispute the facts that are true. It's very sad, and disappointing; I didnt know he had it in him to stoop so low.

elveiel
10-13-2004, 02:05 PM
Avatar of the week:


<<<<<<<<<<< this is the best!!

bigdlb12
10-13-2004, 02:19 PM
Avatar of the week should go to me, just look at Frank

tracylee
10-13-2004, 03:21 PM
Avatar of the week should go to me, just look at Frank

Yeah, the rabbit is pretty cool. I like the one "Hurlex" uses too, so it's kinda hard to decide

Pound4Pound1986
10-13-2004, 03:35 PM
Avatar of the week should go to me, just look at Frank


what? thats a piece of garbage avatar :D people should vote for mine :D

tracylee
10-13-2004, 03:42 PM
what? thats a piece of garbage avatar :D people should vote for mine :D

I will next time; promise ;)

SonnyG8R
10-13-2004, 04:43 PM
So when are we getting the results of this thing?

I better be getting some votes for MVP :cool:

SonnyG8R
10-13-2004, 04:43 PM
I will next time; promise ;)

Come on tracylee, you know you love my avatar :p

tracylee
10-13-2004, 04:44 PM
Come on tracylee, you know you love my avatar :p

Doesnt come close to defining what I feel babe! :p

Ranger2408
10-13-2004, 04:46 PM
my avatar is the best, get over it people

Pound4Pound1986
10-14-2004, 01:00 AM
ok i'll put in the people got picked and the people who sended in their picks

Pound4Pound1986
10-14-2004, 01:25 AM
ok i'll put in the people got picked and the people who sended in their picks


ok heres the list
tracylee
oldgringo
jose
sonny
wez
barryboy
boxerdog
hurlex
snoopy360
neuraxis
winter
realheavyhands
jabsrstiff
sweet dick willy
borikua
abdiel2k3

let me to the calculations first

SonnyG8R
10-17-2004, 11:50 AM
Check your MU. Interview is all set.

Pound4Pound1986
10-17-2004, 02:24 PM
yeah thanks, i had it all done yesterday but my computer crashed and none of it was saved :mad:

JOM'S
10-19-2004, 01:26 PM
finished reading 9 pages of post, learning who are the top guns and learning some history, so guys who won???

Boxerdog
10-19-2004, 01:57 PM
Re: Wez's Avatar

Sorry dude,
That girl has a killer body but in the face, she looks just like Grandpa Munster. OOOOOOOOOOgly!

Pound4Pound1986
10-19-2004, 02:47 PM
Re: Wez's Avatar

Sorry dude,
That girl has a killer body but in the face, she looks just like Grandpa Munster. OOOOOOOOOOgly!
you have to PM me the picks

Boxerdog
10-19-2004, 05:54 PM
The same ones from page one?
They were due three days ago right?

tracylee
10-19-2004, 06:11 PM
The same ones from page one?
They were due three days ago right?

I'm confused myself! I thought the latest ones had already been decided, example: mvp was Barryboy and the most interesting new comer was the dick. So, p-4-p what's up? :confused: