It's clear to my Etienne threw this fight (aka just took a paycheck).

He removes his mouthpeice before going "to sleep".
http://www.photopile.com/photos/imsoflyyy/auctions/234396.gif

i think he j/ got discouraged once he saw tyson and realized how vicious and powerful he was in the ring, and thought to himslef "i can get up and be KTFO, or i can stay down and spare myself the misery"

wtf if that looks like he took a dive ......arrrhhhhh

i think he j/ got discouraged once he saw tyson and realized how vicious and powerful he was in the ring, and thought to himslef "i can get up and be KTFO, or i can stay down and spare myself the misery"
i agree with that but still he got ktfo

It seems crystal clear to me, Etienne looks at corner slightly while on grown, then removes his mouthpiece and THEN plays "dead".

^^yea, its def possible that even if he wanted to get up he couldnt have, but its possible that he was already beaten mentally and couldnt find the heart 2 get up.

so um you are just saying he could have got up ...thats not the same as a dive ...even if he did get up tyson would have beat the hell out of him in a round or 2 ...i have the fight so im not just talking

This dude has been to Angola Prison is Louisianna. Etienne is TOUGH. He could have gotten up.

Its called Angola cause Africans from Angola worked plantations during the slavery times. Its a tough prison. The toughest in the nation. Etienne started boxing there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_State_Penitentiary
so um you are just saying he could have got up ...thats not the same as a dive ...even if he did get up tyson would have beat the hell out of him in a round or 2 ...i have the fight so im not just talking

This dude has been to Angola Prison is Louisianna. Etienne is TOUGH. He could have gotten up.

Its called Angola cause Africans from Angola worked plantations during the slavery times. Its a tough prison. The toughest in the nation. Etienne started boxing there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_State_Penitentiary
lol fuk some badass prison bs ... so what prison dont make you a world class fighter

It's clear to my Etienne threw this fight (aka just took a paycheck).

He removes his mouthpeice before going "to sleep".
http://www.photopile.com/photos/imsoflyyy/auctions/234396.gif



just in case you have never seen Etienne, he has a crappy chin. AFter Tyson knocked him the **** out, he has been sloppy ever since. Thank you.

I don't think you take a hit like that when you're throwing a fight. Now Bruce Seldon, he threw the fight against Tyson. This was just an instance where Etienne quit.

I don't think you take a hit like that when you're throwing a fight. Now Bruce Seldon, he threw the fight against Tyson. This was just an instance where Etienne quit.
right that was my point a dive and a no mas are way dif

so um you are just saying he could have got up ...thats not the same as a dive ...even if he did get up tyson would have beat the hell out of him in a round or 2 ...i have the fight so im not just talking

who was this directed to?

No way was that fight a fix. I have seen it and that right he lays him out with is baaad.

There are times when fighters kneel down after being Kd, and just remain there.... but they are fully conscious of their surroundings and know that they could quite easily get back up.

But its not about that. Its about reducing the chance of brain damage, and the advice coming from your corner....

IMO a 100% fair fight...

i live here in reno and train with kelvin davis,he showed me a sparring session with him and ettiene things started getting outta hand an kelvin knocked his ass out cold,ettiene has fine china for a chin and if you look at the way he fell when tyson hit him you can tell he didnt take a dive cuz he almost broke his leg....

He removed his mouthpeice before playing 'dead'.
i live here in reno and train with kelvin davis,he showed me a sparring session with him and ettiene things started getting outta hand an kelvin knocked his ass out cold,ettiene has fine china for a chin and if you look at the way he fell when tyson hit him you can tell he didnt take a dive cuz he almost broke his leg....

It's clear to my Etienne threw this fight (aka just took a paycheck).

He removes his mouthpeice before going "to sleep".
http://www.photopile.com/photos/imsoflyyy/auctions/234396.gif


Either that, or he realized that Tyson was going to catch him even worse if he got up. He either threw the fight, or was scared to death. I'd say scared.

bump bump bump it up!

glass chin he got knock down 9 times by Fres Oquendo

i live here in reno and train with kelvin davis,he showed me a sparring session with him and ettiene things started getting outta hand an kelvin knocked his ass out cold,ettiene has fine china for a chin and if you look at the way he fell when tyson hit him you can tell he didnt take a dive cuz he almost broke his leg....
Thats funny, I always made fun of this..... how do you get hit so hard you almost break your leg? haha.....

Thats funny, I always made fun of this..... how do you get hit so hard you almost break your leg? haha.....
He wqas refuring to the way etienne fell if you watch his right leg it gets caught up under him while hes falling

It dosn't really make a big lot of difference anyway, the fight was hardly for a title, or very meaningful, and we all know the fights Mike had after it.

cliff was just a jail house fighter, see what happens when a wanna be trys to fight real fighters.
In order to box, 1st you must love the sport, not just want a check

cliff was just a jail house fighter, see what happens when a wanna be trys to fight real fighters.
In order to box, 1st you must love the sport, not just want a check

like a previous post said, its hard to call this a "dive"

obviously etienne had made up his mind before the fight even started that he wasnt going to win.

tyson was just one of a couple fights at the end of etiennes career where he just "didnt give a ****"

he put up a pitiful performance against valuev, which kinda seems a little fishy that etienne, a washed up fighter, out of prison, needing money, has lost 2 pitiful performances to the two guys at heavyweight that needed a win over Cliff Dogg for their title shot.