are the same that Guinn was actually a good fighter. :D

I don't think Mesi or Guinn are bad heavyweights I just don't either are capable of taking over the division. Maybe one of them can win a belt or two but thats it.

"I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, the most ruthless champion there has ever been. No one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! He's no Alexander! I'm Alexander! I'm the best ever. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey. There's never been anyone like me...."

One of my fav Mike Tyson quotes.

I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious and most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! I'm Alexander! He's no Alexander! I'm the best ever. There's never been anyone as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me, I'm from their cloth. There's no one can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart, I want to eat his children. Praise be to allah!

Classic Tyson! That was my sig. a couple years ago on another forum.

Its a shame about the heavyweight division at the moment. Vitali will rule until he retires over the next 6+ years. There is no one out there who has the talent to beat him...i saw mesi fight once and all i could think when the commentators said people were calling him the new rocky marciano.....whether it be on looks etc i don't know....was that rocky marciano was never a crap fighter as far as i know!

I think Mesi and Guinn both suck, but Mesi just sucks a lot less

Mesi does suck, and so does guinn and barret and dokari and gomez. I was never truley sold on any of these fighters. I do see some decent prospects comming up

Its a shame about the heavyweight division at the moment. Vitali will rule until he retires over the next 6+ years. There is no one out there who has the talent to beat him...i saw mesi fight once and all i could think when the commentators said people were calling him the new rocky marciano.....whether it be on looks etc i don't know....was that rocky marciano was never a crap fighter as far as i know!


Yeah, I'm actually kind of a Marciano fan, and I was a little offended when they started that crap. Mesi's an ok fighter, but IMO, he doesn't hit that hard for his size, and doesn't seem to take big punches that well, either, and those big shots are from the smaller guys, too.

I was gonna rip his heart out. I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious and most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one can stop me. Lennox is a conqueror? No! I'm Alexander! He's no Alexander! I'm the best ever. There's never been anyone as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston. I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me, I'm from their cloth. There's no one can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious, I want your heart, I want to eat his children. Praise be to allah!

Classic Tyson! That was my sig. a couple years ago on another forum.
That's why I loved it when he got destroyed by Lennox Lewis.