View Full Version : Flyweight division, the next boxing hotbed?


masterdirector
12-22-2005, 07:14 PM
There are a lot of decent fighters swarming around the Flyweight division. Looking up and down a division as well, we should have some potential mega fights in the making.

Will these guys get enough exposure in time so that the States can see these matches? Here are some of the possible big names that we could hopefully see in big matches in the next year or two (superfly to jr. fly)

Fernando Montiel
Jose Navarro
Luis Perez
Martin Castillo
Eric Morel
Rosendo Alvarez
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Lorenzo Parra
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Vic Darchinyan
Jorge Arce
Hussein
Naito
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Brian Viloria
Ivan Calderon (assuming he moved up from Straw)

That is a ton of good possible matches that could be made. And I think there are a couple decent Japanese fighters that I don't know at all. Kawashima and Tokuyama, I've only read about them. Tokuyama was the one that got the controversial win over Navarro. Still, maybe him or the other guy would be decent.

Let's hope that we get another good division to watch here in the western world, namely the States. Maybe the europeans will have access.

Manny_P
12-22-2005, 07:18 PM
Definitely. It's a good thing the lighter divisions are gettin some recognition now.

Wit superstars like you said, Viloria, Montiel, Arce, Calderon and many prospects (ehem, Rodel Mayol is comin), it'll only get betta.


Bring on Viloria vs Arce. This will be Pacquiao vs Morales of super flyweight! Could be even betta!

whdempsey
12-22-2005, 07:19 PM
There are a lot of decent fighters swarming around the Flyweight division. Looking up and down a division as well, we should have some potential mega fights in the making.

Will these guys get enough exposure in time so that the States can see these matches? Here are some of the possible big names that we could hopefully see in big matches in the next year or two (superfly to jr. fly)

Fernando Montiel
Jose Navarro
Luis Perez
Martin Castillo
Eric Morel
Rosendo Alvarez
-
Lorenzo Parra
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Vic Darchinyan
Jorge Arce
Hussein
Naito
-
Brian Viloria
Ivan Calderon (assuming he moved up from Straw)

That is a ton of good possible matches that could be made. And I think there are a couple decent Japanese fighters that I don't know at all. Kawashima and Tokuyama, I've only read about them. Tokuyama was the one that got the controversial win over Navarro. Still, maybe him or the other guy would be decent.

Let's hope that we get another good division to watch here in the western world, namely the States. Maybe the europeans will have access.
What the hell, man? You're leaving out Vazquez, Cazares and Solis at 108. They're all fun to watch and would match up great with almost anyone else on the list. And to answer your question, yes, boxing in the very light divisions is just getting better and better all the time.

masterdirector
12-22-2005, 07:20 PM
Great thing is the oldest guy I think is like Wonjongkam and he's 28.

Mech.
12-22-2005, 07:22 PM
Actually kawashima was the one that got the controversial win over navarro(i sent you that fight btw) and Tokuyama went on to beat kawashima.So now Tokuyama is set to fight navarro feb 27th.(got all that ;) ) For navarro's sake i hope he dosent get another ****ty decision.

Im familiar with only a few fighters here,none of which is realy known to have power(e.g. calderon,navarro) but are great boxers,except maybe for arce,he seems to have good pop.So i dont know if those fights will garner much attention.Brian Viloria i havent seen fight,good power?

Manny_P
12-22-2005, 07:24 PM
Actually kawashima was the one that got the controversial win over navarro(i sent you that fight btw) and Tokuyama went on to beat kawashima.So now Tokuyama is set to fight navarro feb 27th.(got all that ;) ) For navarro's sake i hope he dosent get another ****ty decision.

Im familiar with only a few fighters here,none of which is realy known to have power(e.g. calderon,navarro) but are great boxers,except maybe for arce,he seems to have good pop.So i dont know if those fights will garner much attention.Brian Viloria i havent seen fight,good power?

doo, Brian Viloria is said to hit like a super bantamweight! He destroyed that former WBC Flyweight champion Ortiz in 1 round.

whdempsey
12-22-2005, 07:26 PM
Actually kawashima was the one that got the controversial win over navarro(i sent you that fight btw) and Tokuyama went on to beat kawashima.So now Tokuyama is set to fight navarro feb 27th.(got all that ;) ) For navarro's sake i hope he dosent get another ****ty decision.

Im familiar with only a few fighters here,none of which is realy known to have power(e.g. calderon,navarro) but are great boxers,except maybe for arce,he seems to have good pop.So i dont know if those fights will garner much attention.Brian Viloria i havent seen fight,good power?
Whoa buddy. Perez at 115, Arce, Darchinyan, and Pongsaklek at 112, and Viloria and Vasquez at 108 are all known punchers. Most of the rest are boxer-punchers. The only pure boxers on the list are the two you mentioned.

Mech.
12-22-2005, 07:28 PM
Whoa buddy. Perez at 115, Arce, Darchinyan, and Pongsaklek at 112, and Viloria and Vasquez at 108 are all known punchers. Most of the rest are boxer-punchers. The only pure boxers on the list are the two you mentioned.

haha.Well like i said Im not really familiar with those fighters.

whdempsey
12-22-2005, 07:28 PM
haha.Well like i said Im not really familiar with those fighters.
Learn something every day.

Yogi
12-22-2005, 07:28 PM
Some good names mentioned in this thread, but when I see them, all I see is a bunch of future KO victims courtesy the fists of the 19 year-old SUPER prospect of the division, Koki Kameda.

whdempsey
12-22-2005, 07:30 PM
Some good names mentioned in this thread, but when I see them, all I see is a bunch of future KO victims courtesy the fists of the 19 year-old SUPER prospect of the division, Koki Kameda.
Oooh. Good, challenging name-tossing. Koki Kameda is a future champ for sure. If he can get even some of the names on this list he can be a star.

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12-22-2005, 08:04 PM
Great thing is the oldest guy I think is like Wonjongkam and he's 28.

Bad thing is Wonjongkam dont wanna leave thailand.

masterdirector
12-22-2005, 08:11 PM
If I left people out, it is because they don't show them here, so the only thing I can possibly go by is **** that I read, which I don't really trust. Because I've read several fights that I later watched and totally disagreed with what was written.

Hopefully it'll change in the future. yeah, someone just told me about this Koki guy.

I think many people at these weights don't have a lot of power because if they did, they'd weigh more. Power takes some amount of muscle and these guys obviously aren't super muscular since they weigh so little. And if they gain much muscle at all, they're suddenly in a higher weight class.

czars_salad
12-22-2005, 08:36 PM
Bad thing is Wonjongkam dont wanna leave thailand.
some thai fighters are really good. they have great amateur foundation yet they rarely fight abroad.

going back to the topic, the flyweight division, based from the list, seems to be really looking good. but will these guys stay in this division for a longer time? IMO viloria is probably going to stay in this division because his height is quite small for the batamweight division. arce might move up coz he's bulkier. i hope these guys will slug it out next year!

mr. bojangles
12-22-2005, 08:37 PM
I agree. There's lots of exciting fights that can be made from these weight classes.

Arce-Pongsaklek-Viloria-Darchinyan

any of these four fighters in the mix, would be fun to watch

Cazares looked OK in the Boxing World Cup, i liked the way he quickly switched to a southpaw stance after being KDd by Sor Vorapin and KTFOd the confused Thai with a left straight...perhaps a fight with Solis?

while match-ups of the other belt holders and some prospects @105 against Calderon, prolly the PBF of this weight class, will be an interesting show of styles. i'd like to see

Calderon (sleek boxer) - Kyowa (counterpuncher) - Niida (boxer) - Mayol (slugger)


i hope these guys juke it out next year :boxing:


anybody here seen fights of IBF champ Rachman and WBC champ Takayama? comments would be much appreciated.