Arum and King obviously are NOT confident in their fighters so no belt will be on the line.

Isn't this ruining the fight? Kind of like Castillo-Corrales except this is worst imo.

It's not like Castillo-Corrales as long as they make the weight.

I seriously don't think anyone is going to put their belts on the line when they face Mayweather. You'll see the same thing happen if/when he takes on Hatton.

I mean, as long as the big fights are being made, right? You have to take what you can get in boxing.

This is the type of thing that pisses me off. Its still a great fight but becasue of the greed of the promoters and the corruption of the sanctioning bodies, this fight won't be have the same signifigance.

Don King and Bor Arum hurt the sport more than they help it.

Who gives a **** about those sorry ass alphabet titles anyway we know who the champions are anyway.I just want to see big fights!!!!! :boxing:

This is the type of thing that pisses me off. Its still a great fight but becasue of the greed of the promoters and the corruption of the sanctioning bodies, this fight won't be have the same signifigance.

Don King and Bor Arum hurt the sport more than they help it.

did'nt you make a thread about leaving?

did'nt you make a thread about leaving?
Hardly anyone who does that actually stays away..........

did'nt you make a thread about leaving?

Yeah but what does that have to do with this topic? Your flaming me, and I'm glad you are obessed enough with me to remember that thread.

This is forum t talk boxing, not stalk people and launch personal attacks.

If you don't stop flaming me I will report you to the mods.

I think this is stupid, I feel the 147 belts should be on the line. Mayweather deserves a crack at the title, because he is the best fighter in the world. But whatever its still going to be a great fight.

I couldn't care less about the belts being at stake. They are worthless.
Mayweather-Judah has "lb4lb" ramifications, & that has now become more important than having the belts of corrupt organizations at stake.

Normally they wouldnt matter as much. Except Zab has three belts (WBA, WBC and trashy IBF). The belts mean something here.
I couldn't care less about the belts being at stake. They are worthless.
Mayweather-Judah has "lb4lb" ramifications, & that has now become more important than having the belts of corrupt organizations at stake.

Normally they wouldnt matter as much. Except Zab has three belts (WBA, WBC and trashy IBF). The belts mean something here.
**** em it is a good move....Like when Johnson and Tarver said **** the belts to fight each other....I know this is a different situation but still the less fighters think about these titles the better.Just fight the best guys and win and we all know who the real champs are.

I want the belts to be on the line....

The fight still has some drawing points to it, but its not the same without the belts.

And CITA, he wasnt flaming you, so please dont threaten people for no reason.

The sanctioning bodies were being gay with Tarver and Johnson.

Mayweather is moving up in weight. He, I, many and Zab knows Floyd is going to win this. Why not put the belts on the line so you can say you're the champ?
**** em it is a good move....Like when Johnson and Tarver said **** the belts to fight each other....I know this is a different situation but still the less fighters think about these titles the better.Just fight the best guys and win and we all know who the real champs are.

The sanctioning bodies were being gay with Tarver and Johnson.

Mayweather is moving up in weight. He, I, many and Zab knows Floyd is going to win this. Why not put the belts on the line so you can say you're the champ?
The winner is the champ anyway we know that.........these santioning bodies need a message sent that we the fans don't give a **** about them when they do the **** they constantly do.......eventually they may tighten up of just fold.....I go with Ring rankings mostly not ****ing santioning bodies rankings they are bogus and suck....I agree the belts should be on the line but **** it who really cares if they are not and Judah wins IMO.

i just want to see this fight, i could care less if there is a corupt title at stake. we all know whats in the air for this fight, similar to johnson and tarver.

So, lets say Mayweather wins. You guys are fine with the belts still being with Judah and Floyd being without a belt at the weight class?

EDIT: You're right. The alternative is them not fighting at all.

So, lets say Mayweather wins. You guys are fine with the belts still being with Judah and Floyd being without a belt at the weight class?
yeah, because we will all know who is champ... belts are nothing.

i think judah wins anyhow...

Arum and King obviously are NOT confident in their fighters so no belt will be on the line.

Isn't this ruining the fight? Kind of like Castillo-Corrales except this is worst imo.


Explaining this is as tiresome as ansering the bi-weekly "What's up with Boxrec's rankings" threads.

The titles are not on the line, because if they were, Floyd Mayweather could be forced to take a low % of the purse as challenger.

Floyd wants the lion's share of the money, so I don't think he cares as much about the titles.

I don't blame either of them. For Judah to take 25% of the purse and put all his titles on the line is unfair.

i just want to see this fight, i could care less if there is a corupt title at stake. we all know whats in the air for this fight, similar to johnson and tarver.

agreed....

fighters have to start taking their own initiative, without the promoters. thts the only way, boxing will be fixed. thers nothing wrong with ppl helping u. but to have whos going to sell tickets, who gets teh bigger draw n **** is dumb

RJJ, did everything on his own, and he had probably at least one of the 3 or 4 best careers in the last 10-13 yeras

Arum and King obviously are NOT confident in their fighters so no belt will be on the line.

Isn't this ruining the fight? Kind of like Castillo-Corrales except this is worst imo.

most likely they're not fighting for all the belts cause neither guy wants to pay 9 percent of their purse to sanctioning bodies. It is 3 percent per sanctioning body. Boxing, the only sport in which the fighters have to pay money to be ranked or champ.

seriously, say Mayweather wins convincingly, who would really consider Judah the champ? Nobody, so it doesn't matter really.

You watch Boondocks too?

Yeah, 9% is a lot. Plus you pay 10% to trainer and then taxes are a *****.
most likely they're not fighting for all the belts cause neither guy wants to pay 9 percent of their purse to sanctioning bodies. It is 3 percent per sanctioning body. Boxing, the only sport in which the fighters have to pay money to be ranked or champ.

seriously, say Mayweather wins convincingly, who would really consider Judah the champ? Nobody, so it doesn't matter really.

Arum and King obviously are NOT confident in their fighters so no belt will be on the line.

Isn't this ruining the fight? Kind of like Castillo-Corrales except this is worst imo.

what do u expect
zab is afraid, king is afraid, no belts on the line
no suprise there

Personally I just want to see two good fighter battle it out, find out who's the best. Can Judah be the one to beat Floyd with his speed? I can care less who has the belts, just lets see who's the best inside the ring.

Personally I just want to see two good fighter battle it out, find out who's the best. Can Judah be the one to beat Floyd with his speed? I can care less who has the belts, just lets see who's the best inside the ring.

how stupid is it going to be if floyd wins and judah keeps the belts tho??

This will be a very big fight and boxing fans and even casual fans, everybody will know who the winner and the real champion is, don't worry about that.

Thats my beef, but the alternative is them not fighting.

Pick your poison.
how stupid is it going to be if floyd wins and judah keeps the belts tho??

I don't care.
As long as it happens, I don't mind.

Those ****i'n belt doesn't mean ****. It's worth nothing. It's the man that makes the belt not the belt that makes the man so forget about those belt and just be happy the fight will happen. :cool:

With Mayweather, when he beats Judah, where does he go next? Continue fighting for no belts?

Normally they wouldnt matter as much. Except Zab has three belts (WBA, WBC and trashy IBF). The belts mean something here.


duh oh really

If the fight isn't for the belts, it's clear that his intentions are to move back to 140lbs. to take care of Cotto and/or Hatton.

You watch Boondocks too?

Yeah, 9% is a lot. Plus you pay 10% to trainer and then taxes are a *****.

Yep, Boondocks is f'n hilarious.

10% to the trainer, then 30% to the promoter. Then 30% is withheld by the promoter for tax purposes, which is bull****. Fighters shouldn't ever agree to that. That's how boxers get in trouble with their income taxes. They're lied to and told their taxes have been paid for when they haven't been.

And often they'll with hold miscellaneous fees for bull****, like taking care of the entourage and stupid ****, or drug testing, which sometimes they'll charge like $2000-10,000 for something that costs a maximum of $400, and that is if you have the results overnighted and the most expensive possible rates.

You should see how badly they raped Yory Boy Campus. Its on RingTalk on Pedro Fernandez's series of articles entitled Operation Yory Boy. Turned out Yory Boy's manager and Arum were both ****ing Yory Boy over. They were putting money to some fake company called Star Trucking as a front for Yory's own manager. Yory got about 20,000 for a fight he was supposed to get 300 k for I think.

fck the worthless belts. i'm glad they arent having to pay the sanctioning fees . that will teach there corrupt sorry ass.all these worthless belts. it would be a different story if there was only one true belt to fight for.

Those ****i'n belt doesn't mean ****. It's worth nothing. It's the man that makes the belt not the belt that makes the man so forget about those belt and just be happy the fight will happen. :cool:

on the contrary, the belts mean alot

when your watching a fight do you even think about the titles? i know i dont, i just watch the action in the ring & there will be ALOT of great action in the ring when this fight happens, so i dont really think it affects the fight at all! i still cant wait!

serioulsy
who gives a fuk
belts lost thier meanings a long time ago
we as fans know who are the best
and when the best fight the best
we know whos the bestEST
belt or no belt

**** Arum. That guy just looks slimey.
Yep, Boondocks is f'n hilarious.

10% to the trainer, then 30% to the promoter. Then 30% is withheld by the promoter for tax purposes, which is bull****. Fighters shouldn't ever agree to that. That's how boxers get in trouble with their income taxes. They're lied to and told their taxes have been paid for when they haven't been.

And often they'll with hold miscellaneous fees for bull****, like taking care of the entourage and stupid ****, or drug testing, which sometimes they'll charge like $2000-10,000 for something that costs a maximum of $400, and that is if you have the results overnighted and the most expensive possible rates.

You should see how badly they raped Yory Boy Campus. Its on RingTalk on Pedro Fernandez's series of articles entitled Operation Yory Boy. Turned out Yory Boy's manager and Arum were both ****ing Yory Boy over. They were putting money to some fake company called Star Trucking as a front for Yory's own manager. Yory got about 20,000 for a fight he was supposed to get 300 k for I think.

is it a done deal yet or what? the most recent MB video is Zab calling Mayweather a punk cus he wants 60-40 of the purse and that he isnt letting that happen.

is it a done deal yet or what? the most recent MB video is Zab calling Mayweather a punk cus he wants 60-40 of the purse and that he isnt letting that happen.

yeah hahah "i knocked out corey spinks!!! i should get 70-30!! who gives a **** about p4p, im zab judah!!"
people act like floyd was 80-20 against zab, but that request seems reasonable to me

on the contrary, the belts mean alot

It's all about bragging rights Bro. Even if Zab got the three belts if he gets his ass handed back to him by PBF what respect and stature will he get? :D He is going to be an undisputed laughing stock and eventually Team Zab will be pressured to give PBF a legitimate title shot. And walla! We'll have a second fight. Well if Zab wins then he cements his claim to be the best in the division and that he deserves his belts. :D

These alphabet belts and titles only means a lot to average fighters but with P4P fighters like ZAB abd PBF it takes a backseat. So as I was saying let's just be happy that it will happen.

I couldn't care less about the belts being at stake. They are worthless.
Mayweather-Judah has "lb4lb" ramifications, & that has now become more important than having the belts of corrupt organizations at stake.True, but those guys(Judah & Mayweather)and every pro-fighter is what they get up for, you hear money this money that.. Those guys don't get up at 4 in the mornin' so they can read writer's opinions on who's P4P it's still those belts. Nothing proves this more than the reaction you see in a title fight when one has been announced the new world champion, or the look on a fighter's face when hearing he just lost his belt(s).

the belts dont mean ****, the people know whoever wins the fight is the true champion

It doesnt matter .


After Zab knocks out the gay boxer ( PBF) , It wont matter if the belts were on the line or not .


I cant wait to see how many people are Super Zab Fans after this happens , it will be very interesting .

To be honest, imagine, A prime Ali has been brought back through time in a time machine, so has a prime Tyson and a prime Lewis and a prime Marciano and Dempsey and Tunney etc blah blah blah(you know what I mean)



However, there's not going to be any belts on the line so we better tell them to go away and not ruin our entertainment as this would be crap to watch................thats what I thought........ LEMME SEE IT PLEASEEEEEEE........

It doesnt matter .


After Zab knocks out the gay boxer ( PBF) , It wont matter if the belts were on the line or not .


I cant wait to see how many people are Super Zab Fans after this happens , it will be very interesting .
I suppose the PBF v Judah fight will be the same as the PBF v Castillo fight then.

ie. It does'nt matter if theres any belts on the line as PBF gets the decision whether or not he wins anyway..........FACT

Arum and King obviously are NOT confident in their fighters so no belt will be on the line.

Isn't this ruining the fight? Kind of like Castillo-Corrales except this is worst imo.

belts dont make champions. The fighter has to make himself into a champion. I dont care if its for a belt or not just wnat to see this fight happen

these two fighters not fighting for the belt(s) is probly the biggest let-down anyone can possibly imagine. sure its a big fight, but a fight this big deserves to be a championship fight.

everybody should know my position about the belts: the belts are a prison that the fans, fighters, and everyone else CANNOT escape from. like it or not, we are required to aknowledge the belts. the belts are tradition and the belts are money.

if this fight isnt for the WW title when it COULD be, thats one of the many things today that continues to damage the already decimated world of boxing.