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Bozo_no no
12-20-2005, 06:45 AM
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In the 7th round, Bruno's chin got in the way of a Lewis left hook and the sound of glass breaking echoed throughout the lovely 99 year old rugby stadium. "I saw him pulling back to throw a right hand," said Lewis, "and I hit him with a perfect hook, which everybody said I didn't have."

The result was stunning. Once hit, Bruno—the almost world champion—stands stark still, as if suddenly beset by paralysis. Most fighters, at least the good ones, when hurt will grab their opponent in a bear hug, or quickly retreat, or fire back until their heads clear. Tommy Hearns once when stung hard by James Kinchen, snared both Kinchen and referee Mills Lane in a bear hug and refused to let go until his head cleared.

With his opponent suddenly little more than a heavy bag, Lewis turned vicious. Right hand after right hand slammed against the unmoving head. As Bruno began to sag under the savage barrage, Vann moved in, pushed Lewis away—and warned the champion for hitting with an open glove. "I knew I was giving Bruno a few extra moments to recover," said Vann later, "but a foul is a foul."

When Lewis was released from the penalty box, Bruno just stood there waiting, defenseless, his hands down, a motionless mime playing Marie Antoinette wondering why it never rains when you need it. After a few more needless punches, Vann stepped in again, this time to negotiate a lasting peace.

masterdirector
12-20-2005, 06:48 AM
look at how much Lewis tried holding and hitting. he always got away with that **** too. Especially those uppercuts where he'd hold the back of his opponent's head down with one hand and uppercut with the other. very dirty. he was a good fighter, so I don't know why he did that. sure didn't need to.

Bozo_no no
12-20-2005, 06:50 AM
He wanted to hurt people when he had them stunned.

Holyfield used his head as a 3rd fist, Lewis held and hit, Ali was notorious for thumbing people in the eye,

You do what you can get away with.

masterdirector
12-20-2005, 06:59 AM
doesn't mean I have to agree with it. it sort of tarnishes these guys a little. funny that nobody ever noticed holyfield's headbutts when he fought Tyson. Now that it is long gone everyone says he headbutted for half his punches. Tyson didn't ever really cheat. I mean, the ear bite thing, but yeah besides that. prior to that, he'd never really cheated.

then again, other fighters haven't tried to take a knockout after sitting down from a light push.

Bozo_no no
12-20-2005, 07:00 AM
doesn't mean I have to agree with it. it sort of tarnishes these guys a little. funny that nobody ever noticed holyfield's headbutts when he fought Tyson. Now that it is long gone everyone says he headbutted for half his punches. Tyson didn't ever really cheat.

Tyson was notorious for mixing in elbows. Later in his career it was the arm twisting.

masterdirector
12-20-2005, 08:25 AM
show me one video clip ever where he did that. I've seen every fight and I never once saw him try to throw an elbow. Well I haven't seen every fight, there's one early pro fight I haven't seen, ended in a round.

LondonRingRules
12-20-2005, 08:51 AM
========In the 7th round, Bruno's chin got in the way of a Lewis left hook and the sound of glass breaking echoed throughout the lovely 99 year old rugby stadium. "I saw him pulling back to throw a right hand," said Lewis, "and I hit him with a perfect hook, which everybody said I didn't have."==================

** It was a good victory for Lewis, but he hit Bruno with over a half dozen flush shots before the ref broke them and Bruno was still standing and ducking/slipping the other half dozen Lewis couldn't connect with. When Tyson got Bruno in trouble, Bruno really was in trouble, sagged on the ropes looking like a decapitation victim. Bruno also gave Lewis a terrible beating before he was caught. Lewis was still a bit raw in those days.

ejk22
12-20-2005, 09:56 AM
Lewis was one of the most dirtiest fighters of his time. Half the **** he got away with he should have been dq'd for.

RAESAAD
12-20-2005, 10:01 AM
man Lewis had an uppercut........yeah he was trying to hold his head in place to connect but what a uppercut he had I remember him clocking VK with it a few times too.

scap
12-20-2005, 10:12 AM
Im still pissed off about this bout...

This was a fight Lewis haters like myself used to look to for comfort before hwas KO'd by McCall.

He looked like an scared amatuer every round of that fight and he was getting completely outclassed and dominated. this was the 220 poound LL that was a far different fighter then the one we saw beat Holyfield, Tyson and Rahman.

This 220 pound LL would have in my opinion been beaten up pretty good (with only a punchers chance) againsr Riddick Bowe and some other fighters as well.

Lewis turned into a complete/smart fighter post-McCall but pre-McCall he was a tall, skinny, scared Canadian Brit who had a huge right hand and that was it!

AintGottaClue
12-20-2005, 12:02 PM
bruno was also trying to hold down lennox's head and uppercut him as well,

ps lewis sucks

Bozo_no no
12-20-2005, 03:12 PM
Im still pissed off about this bout...

This was a fight Lewis haters like myself used to look to for comfort before hwas KO'd by McCall.

He looked like an scared amatuer every round of that fight and he was getting completely outclassed and dominated. this was the 220 poound LL that was a far different fighter then the one we saw beat Holyfield, Tyson and Rahman.

This 220 pound LL would have in my opinion been beaten up pretty good (with only a punchers chance) againsr Riddick Bowe and some other fighters as well.

Lewis turned into a complete/smart fighter post-McCall but pre-McCall he was a tall, skinny, scared Canadian Brit who had a huge right hand and that was it!



Scap once I got past your tendancy to freak out like Arnie from Glibert Grape, I've come to respect your take a great deal. But when you clearly dislike a figher the sense in your comments takes a nose dive.

Lewis definatly wasn't as polished at this point or years before, but he still punched very fluidly with several different dangerous shots. He also took a better shot than given credit for. His disposal of Razor Ruddock was scary.

I cringe anytime I read someone talk about what Bowe "would have done to Lewis".

Bowe wouldn't have done anything to Lewis, becuase (like a pansy) he was deathly afraid of Lennox. He had it in his head that he couldn't beat Lewis, and that's exactly why he didn' fight him. He climed out of the ring after beating Holyfield the 1st time, and Lewis (who was doing commentary) went over to him on camera and challenged him, saying he'd knock him out again. Bowe looked like he was going to we himslef. He reluctatnly promised to fight Lewis next, and we all know what happened.


As for this fight, it was not nearly as one sided or 'dominating' by Bruno.

After six rounds, Adrain Morgan, a Welshman, had Bruno ahead 59 55, the same as Sports Illustrated. The two Americans, Jerry Roth and Tony Castellano, had it 57 57, which would have made it a majority draw

One could draw compairisons to the Williams Harrison fight where the unproven prospect (although Fraudly's older) was having heaps of trouble with the more experienced fighter, although in this case Lewis hurt Bruno badly with that left hook, and followed up until it was finished.

scap
12-20-2005, 03:30 PM
Scap once I got past your tendancy to freak out like Arnie from Glibert Grape, I've come to respect your take a great deal. But when you clearly dislike a figher the sense in your comments takes a nose dive.

Lewis definatly wasn't as polished at this point or years before, but he still punched very fluidly with several different dangerous shots. He also took a better shot than given credit for. His disposal of Razor Ruddock was scary.

I cringe anytime I read someone talk about what Bowe "would have done to Lewis".

Bowe wouldn't have done anything to Lewis, becuase (like a pansy) he was deathly afraid of Lennox. He had it in his head that he couldn't beat Lewis, and that's exactly why he didn' fight him. He climed out of the ring after beating Holyfield the 1st time, and Lewis (who was doing commentary) went over to him on camera and challenged him, saying he'd knock him out again. Bowe looked like he was going to we himslef. He reluctatnly promised to fight Lewis next, and we all know what happened.


As for this fight, it was not nearly as one sided or 'dominating' by Bruno.

After six rounds, Adrain Morgan, a Welshman, had Bruno ahead 59 55, the same as Sports Illustrated. The two Americans, Jerry Roth and Tony Castellano, had it 57 57, which would have made it a majority draw

One could draw compairisons to the Williams Harrison fight where the unproven prospect (although Fraudly's older) was having heaps of trouble with the more experienced fighter, although in this case Lewis hurt Bruno badly with that left hook, and followed up until it was finished.

Match in the gas tank boom boom! Match in the gas tank boom boom!

When I hate a fighter I will pull no punches and let everyone no that I hate a fighter...however I will also say that my hate for a guy like Lennox or Trinidad is just as good as love.

I was young and have not scored the Lewis Bruno fight in some time but I like HArold Lederman had the fight a shut out for Bruno. Lewis was extremely beatable at this fragile point in his career...but then again who the hell isnt when they are up and comuing.

Yes your right the right hand that Lewis ladned against Razor was scary and like all of LL's big wins that fight pisses me off.

A large part of me lived to watch Lennox loose...I bet against the mother****er in just about every fight he was ever in including having my father place a bet on McCall in Las Vegas. (Yup I cashed in big on Rahman and lost a few bucks on Zelko)

God I hate/miss LL!

As for Bowe...I think you are probably right about Bowe being scared of LL but even though LL was challenging Riddick outside the ring had they of met inside the ring LL would have been just as scared as Bowe!

When they were supposed to fight Bowe was the much more complete/polished fighter and maybe he was still petrified of the right hand that stunned him in the olympics...I guess the fact tyhat Bowe decdied not to fight him should lead this hater (ME) to 1 conclusion...LL would have landed the right hand and stopped Bowe...but I would still like to put money on Big Daddy!

Bozo_no no
12-20-2005, 03:42 PM
As for Bowe...I think you are probably right about Bowe being scared of LL but even though LL was challenging Riddick outside the ring had they of met inside the ring LL would have been just as scared as Bowe!



Pop in Holyfield Bowe 1 again and ffwd to the end.

Bowe did not like standing in Lewis' presence, and Lewis looked like he would have been content to throw down right there.

Wheather that would have been a good idea or not isn't worth discussing, because they should have fought in the ring, but it can definitivly be said that that did not happen because Bowe was outright afraid.

Regardless, the same (and may have been misguided) arrogent machimso that propelled Lewis to believe he was could have taken Bowe or Tyson apart outside the ring was the same thing that served him so well inside the ring.

Like Lewis or hate him, he was a very confident fighter (over confident in many cases), and I think that self fueled arrogence served him well. It allowed him to fight very effectivly in those two rematches. Wheather it was warrented or not, a lot of what made LL successful is he truely believed he was superior to every man he ever stepped in the ring with.

scap
12-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Pop in Holyfield Bowe 1 again and ffwd to the end.

Bowe did not like standing in Lewis' presence, and Lewis looked like he would have been content to throw down right there.

Wheather that would have been a good idea or not isn't worth discussing, because they should have fought in the ring, but it can definitivly be said that that did not happen because Bowe was outright afraid.

Regardless, the same (and may have been misguided) arrogent machimso that propelled Lewis to believe he was could have taken Bowe or Tyson apart outside the ring was the same thing that served him so well inside the ring.

Like Lewis or hate him, he was a very confident fighter (over confident in many cases), and I think that self fueled arrogence served him well. It allowed him to fight very effectivly in those two rematches. Wheather it was warrented or not, a lot of what made LL successful is he truely believed he was superior to every man he ever stepped in the ring with.

I could pop in the tape of Bowe/Holy 1 and check out what Bowe's body language may be saying but nah...

Hell I thought Zoo didnt look very comfortable when he beat Mitchell and Viv Harris was challenging him after that fight...

240 pound LL post McCall would beat Bowe...220 pound LL...I still gotta go with as Lewis like to say "chicken Bowe"

Bozo_no no
12-20-2005, 04:50 PM
240 pound LL post McCall would beat Bowe...220 pound LL...I still gotta go with as Lewis like to say "chicken Bowe"


That's irrelevnt though, becuase Chiken Bowe was afraid to step in the ring. Bowe was mentally weak, and that doesn't change. If he was forced into it he would have lost because he would have folded like a tent.

Bowe was an exciting fighter, but he loses respect for being a coward.

Bozo_no no
12-22-2005, 05:30 AM
I never saw Bruno's fight with Tim Witherspoon. Anyone remember what the stoppage was like?

JUYJUY
12-22-2005, 07:38 AM
I never saw Bruno's fight with Tim Witherspoon. Anyone remember what the stoppage was like?
Nasty, similar to the Lewis one. I was at Wembley that day. Bruno was dominating Witherspoon before switching off, or running out of gas, or both.

TheEvilSaint
12-22-2005, 05:18 PM
this clip of lewis is interesting, but it shows how patheticly sloppy lewis was and always has been. of all those punches thrown, only 3-4 landed flush.

lewis was powerful but sloppy. this clip shows how overrated he is as a boxer.

Dirt E Gomez
12-22-2005, 05:30 PM
this clip of lewis is interesting, but it shows how patheticly sloppy lewis was and always has been. of all those punches thrown, only 3-4 landed flush.

lewis was powerful but sloppy. this clip shows how overrated he is as a boxer.

Yes... him swinging for the fences truly was an example of his boxing prowess. :rolleyes: He was trying to take Bruno's head off because he knew he was stunned. This isn't rocket science and almost all fighters break down their strategy and go for a knockout blow when their opponent is ****ed.

Manny_P
12-22-2005, 05:30 PM
dang, Lewis is strong, but those holdings, uh uh. LOL!

first time I saw Bruno when I was lil and he fought Tyson. Tyson KOed him in 3 rounds and he kissed Bruno's wound aftawerds. I was like, "OK........."

DiegoFuego
12-22-2005, 06:01 PM
Can't believe you all are calling Lewis dirty. A lot of the best fighters are also the dirtiest. Look at Mayweather, the king of the elbows! He uses his elbow every round of every fight, gets warned a bunch for it too, but as far as I know, the only time he ever lost a point for it was against Castillo.

Jesus, you all don't think Hopkins got to the top of the p4p charts for being a clean fighter, do you? I've seen Hopkins fight clean, and guess what? HE DOESN'T WIN

Bozo_no no
12-22-2005, 08:04 PM
this clip of lewis is interesting, but it shows how patheticly sloppy lewis was and always has been. of all those punches thrown, only 3-4 landed flush.

lewis was powerful but sloppy. this clip shows how overrated he is as a boxer.


Lewis punched very fluidly for a guy that big. That's what set him apart and made him a good fighter.

It's very rare to have a guy with his size and power that could box and pucnh very well. What you're referring to as 'sloppy' is a lot of posturing to keep Bruno from grabbing him and trying to push or pull him into range for a big shot. In this clip, Bruno was just about finished from that big left hook, and Lewis is rushing to follow up with shots trying to quickly get him in position to land his biggest shot possible.

You're also basing this comment on Lewis pre Emanual Steward. He was a lot tighter in the later years.

-Jay-
12-22-2005, 08:23 PM
Nice clip bozo, here is the video clip if anyone wants it. (Sorry about the language.)
http://d16.yousendit.com/D/1S61TTCBLB9M01IT937AGCPK6C/Boxing%20-%20Lennox%20Lewis%20vs%20Frank%20Bruno.wmv (http://)

blockhead
12-23-2005, 08:55 AM
He wanted to hurt people when he had them stunned.

Holyfield used his head as a 3rd fist, Lewis held and hit, Ali was notorious for thumbing people in the eye,

You do what you can get away with.
thats a great ko in your sig bozo. clean and pretty one of my favorites.

Dempsey 1919
12-23-2005, 12:37 PM
that was brutal.