An interesting interview in today's Boxing News where Jim McDonell spoke of what he'd seen as an exploitable flaw in Klitchsko's technical make-up. (He also expressed his frustation at Sterling McPherson, who was a late substitute for one of Danny's cornermen who was held up with passport difficulties).

What Jim had noticed was that Klitschko only ever moves to the left, never the right. Get him to move to his right and you're exploiting a technical limitation. Unfortunately, as McDonell noted, they never even got a chance to get in the fight. McDonell was full of praise for Klitschko's ability.

An interesting interview in today's Boxing News where Jim McDonell spoke of what he'd seen as an exploitable flaw in Klitchsko's technical make-up. (He also expressed his frustation at Sterling McPherson, who was a late substitute for one of Danny's cornermen who was held up with passport difficulties).

What Jim had noticed was that Klitschko only ever moves to the left, never the right. Get him to move to his right and you're exploiting a technical limitation. Unfortunately, as McDonell noted, they never even got a chance to get in the fight. McDonell was full of praise for Klitschko's ability.Yo, I didn't bother to read this post, but it sounds to me like a Williams excuse. that guy's a bum and sux, I need to jack one off now

to make him circle to the right, you have to pressure him on his left, which would also put you right were his jab is functioning and also risk being setup for the one-two..
but it might work

Gee...isn't this kinda like "Team Custer" telling us what they saw to exploit in the Indians?

Maybe next week "Team Tex Cobb" can tell us what they saw to exploit in Larry Holmes.

Boxer, you mean man. McDonell said that although the opportunity never came, it's now open for someone else to exploit it one day. Obviously they wouldn't say what it was before the fight...

Yeah yeah, i got weaknesses no doubt but it dont matter when no one ever manage to take advantage of it.

You don't need to be terribly astute to see Klit's flaws....they're apparent.

But, getting in there & trying to take advantage of them- physically, is very difficult.

I think that anybody that watched the fight can see VK's flaw.

Maybe Vk should keep his freaken' hands up for a change.......

And by the way, I am not a pro analyst, I just do it for fun.

Boxer, you mean man. McDonell said that although the opportunity never came, it's now open for someone else to exploit it one day. Obviously they wouldn't say what it was before the fight...


Williams was in the ring with Klitschko, so the opportunity was RIGHT THERE. Williams is just a horrible fighter and got his ass beat. How many excuses do you need after a tremendous :eek: ass beating like that. I would expect excuses if it was a close fight or if it even went the distance, but it was a complete shutout, there is no excuse for getting out-landed forty some punches to 300 some punches. It's just called an ass beating.

Yo, I didn't bother to read this post, but it sounds to me like a Williams excuse. that guy's a bum and sux, I need to jack one off nowThis was me, posting this as a reply to my own thread, parodying someone who would inevitably post something similar...


Williams was in the ring with Klitschko, so the opportunity was RIGHT THERE. Williams is just a horrible fighter and got his ass beat. How many excuses do you need after a tremendous :eek: ass beating like that. I would expect excuses if it was a close fight or if it even went the distance, but it was a complete shutout, there is no excuse for getting out-landed forty some punches to 300 some punches. It's just called an ass beating.... and there's the person who's had the piss taken out of them, predictable as ever.

This thread has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with excuses. It was about a post-fight interview where a trainer congratulated Klit on a performance and then revealed what their understandably-secret-until-after-the-fight gameplan was. It would be nice if we could have a Williams thread without some knee-jerk reaction that's totally unrelated to the subject being posted after it.

pointing out flaws and strategies are easy. to fight tyson, you tie him up inside like lewis. to fight roy jones, you push him onto the ropes and pressure him with lots of shots. but even though people always knew these things it took forever for these guys to finally go down.

I thought it was quite an observation though. Obvious in retrospect, but I'd never clocked it.

You don't need to be terribly astute to see Klit's flaws....they're apparent.

But, getting in there & trying to take advantage of them- physically, is very difficult.
Eggzactamundo!
Ali was a trainwreck when it came to fundamentals but he would kick you all up in your ass anyway!
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You don't need to be terribly astute to see Klit's flaws....they're apparent.

But, getting in there & trying to take advantage of them- physically, is very difficult.



amen, bro, preach on, it's gonna take more than just a mediocre pro to exploit those flaws

You don't need to be terribly astute to see Klit's flaws....they're apparent.

But, getting in there & trying to take advantage of them- physically, is very difficult." Easier said than done"(basically) Like when I use to box, I've always figured out guys that were more athletically gifted, but the " holes" in their armor gets covered up right away. I mean, I felt that I understood the sport better, but these talented guys never really have to figure out anything, ' cause guys would already crumble before they even got hit.

One of the cornerman shouldve told them instead of shouting at Williams ear...LOL

This was me, posting this as a reply to my own thread, parodying someone who would inevitably post something similar...


... and there's the person who's had the piss taken out of them, predictable as ever.

This thread has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with excuses. It was about a post-fight interview where a trainer congratulated Klit on a performance and then revealed what their understandably-secret-until-after-the-fight gameplan was. It would be nice if we could have a Williams thread without some knee-jerk reaction that's totally unrelated to the subject being posted after it.


They said they didnt get the opportunity to expose the flaw. YES THEY DID! Getting in the ring with the man is IS the opportunity. It would be nice if we didnt have a Williams thread at all. The man is barely mediocre, only the English think he is great because of he beat a shadow of Mike Tyson. Williams has BEEN making excuses, this is just another. My ass he didnt have the opportunity. They make it seem like they just chose not to expose this flaw. "Didnt get the opportunity" that is such a ****ing joke.

There's always a flaw. But it's up to the fighter to get through. That is if he has it. And remember that this isn't the first time someone from the opposing camp claim they see something. It happens a lot of times before.

Gee...isn't this kinda like "Team Custer" telling us what they saw to exploit in the Indians?

Maybe next week "Team Tex Cobb" can tell us what they saw to exploit in Larry Holmes.


....lol lol lol Exactly my sentiments. Lennox also talks about Vit's flaws but apparently doesn't feel good enough about his chances even with them. Hence, alot of talk but no rematch.

They said they didnt get the opportunity to expose the flaw. YES THEY DID! Getting in the ring with the man is IS the opportunity. It would be nice if we didnt have a Williams thread at all. The man is barely mediocre, only the English think he is great because of he beat a shadow of Mike Tyson. Williams has BEEN making excuses, this is just another. My ass he didnt have the opportunity. They make it seem like they just chose not to expose this flaw. "Didnt get the opportunity" that is such a ****ing joke.
If you're not interested in Williams threads then DON'T READ THEM.

I clearly stated that there was a full interview in Boxing News. You tell me one excuse Williams has made.

Danny Williams didn't get the opportunity to expose the flaws cos he's just plain crap & never had the skills to do so. Interesting to hear though

Danny Williams didn't get the opportunity to expose the flaws cos he's just plain crap & never had the skills to do so. Interesting to hear thoughHow many Williams fights have you seen then? I imagine this is the sort of thing you say all the time, as the red line would indicate.

Danny Williams didn't get the opportunity to expose the flaws cos he's just plain crap & never had the skills to do so. Interesting to hear though

To suggest Danny is plain crap is silly. He never stood a chance against VK, but there are plenty of other fighters he could certainly nick a belt off.

Im not even sure how much of a weakness that is (unless he's fighting a southpaw, where he's walking onto their strongest hand). It would be very difficult to exploit that anyway because u'd have to pressure him on his strong side and chances are u'd just get picked apart by his jab.

If you're not interested in Williams threads then DON'T READ THEM.

I clearly stated that there was a full interview in Boxing News. You tell me one excuse Williams has made.


Williams claimed he threw his right shoulder out in the second round and wanted a rematch but the fight was already over halfway through the first round! ;)

Williams claimed he threw his right shoulder out in the second round and wanted a rematch but the fight was already over halfway through the first round! ;)Yeah, but it was a statement made after it was discovered what his medical check-up said... it wasn't an EXCUSE.

Sigh. This thread has become - predictably, as evidenced by my own first reply to it - another "Bash Danny" thread. This completely misses the point that it's actually about Vitali.

How many of you noticed that Vitali has trouble moving to his right before?

Yeah, but it was a statement made after it was discovered what his medical check-up said... it wasn't an EXCUSE.

Sigh. This thread has become - predictably, as evidenced by my own first reply to it - another "Bash Danny" thread. This completely misses the point that it's actually about Vitali.

How many of you noticed that Vitali has trouble moving to his right before?


I think Vitali has trouble moving right or left but he moves straight back extremely well. That is why he is so hard to catch.

I think Vitali has trouble moving right or left but he moves straight back extremely well. That is why he is so hard to catch.


I agree and that's why I feel that when he's moving, your chances of taking advantage/KO/winning/etc are low... rather when he's swinging / mixing it up, he's upright and in the fight raising your chances to connect.

How many Williams fights have you seen then? I imagine this is the sort of thing you say all the time, as the red line would indicate.

I've seen a lot of Danny Williams fights, probably more than a lot of people as I lived in the UK for several years and follow the British (& European) heavyweight scene. I like the guy, nice bloke (and a mate of mine has met him and says he's a good guy), mad heart and a decent (but not spectacular) chin, but I've seen him struggle too many times against mediocre opposition.
I saw Samil Sam smash him across the ring on the BBC, I saw him look very sluggish against Bob Mirovic (before landing a good combination to finish the fight), I saw Michael Sprott outboxing him in person until a few low blows from Williams changed the fight and I also saw the rematch in which, despite the fact that Williams did enough to deserve the win, he did litle to impress. And just before the Tyson fight I saw him really struggle with Augustin N'Gou, where I'd say he was fortunate that N'Gou got injured or he might have been in trouble.
And by the way, I couldn't care less about this reputation thing or whatever it is.

For that answer, thesiberianexpress, I give respect due.

pno ur so rite.

there is ways of being every fighter, but not everyone has all the abilities to do that
byrd has a quetionable chin and no power
ruiz has not enuff power and also messed up chin
brewster will get killed
golata has questionable chin also
rahman has power but to small

An interesting interview in today's Boxing News where Jim McDonell spoke of what he'd seen as an exploitable flaw in Klitchsko's technical make-up. (He also expressed his frustation at Sterling McPherson, who was a late substitute for one of Danny's cornermen who was held up with passport difficulties).

What Jim had noticed was that Klitschko only ever moves to the left, never the right. Get him to move to his right and you're exploiting a technical limitation. Unfortunately, as McDonell noted, they never even got a chance to get in the fight. McDonell was full of praise for Klitschko's ability.
aint gonna bother readen this
but is what they saw to exploit
that danny has a hard head
and if klitschko got enough clean shots in
he might injure his hands

or maybe they saw how caring he is
maybe they thought hed feel sorry for danny

Maybe Williams' future could be as a trainer, as he certainly lacked the ability to get the job done I guess.