What's your religion?
(just waste 6 secs. of your precious time and vote)

I was raised Christian but follow no religion now.........

I voted other but I think you meant all prodestants where you put Christian. There are huge differences between say Christian and Methodist, so I defulted to other.

I think most of us are non practising whatever background we're from. We probably all just do the Eid/Xmas/Passover think once or twice a year.

Much love to all peeps.

Protestants are Christians.


If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, and that he died on the cross for our sins, then you are a Christian.

I see.

Happy holidays to you all.

Agnostic ......................

Protestants are Christians.


If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, and that he died on the cross for our sins, then you are a Christian.
They're also damn dirty heretics as well. :D ;)

I have no name for my sexy God.

And cant be ****ed explaining what i believe in, so i chose other.


I worship Uma Thurmans legs.

Tis a good faith.

Raised Catholic, now I practice no faith to speak of, nor do I believe in no faith.

That's cool.

I'm a left leaning quasi Communist. :D

Christian for life :D

I'm not a full hardcore beliver tho....

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Satanism.

Catholic

jhyghdxg

Athiest. But I dont give a **** about money having the word god on it and **** like that.....

i'm a hardcore christian. go jesus!

http://members.aol.com/abareck/images/god%20jesus%20christ.jpg

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

Satanism.

ive been a fan of Levay for a while.

Excellent site.

the book of lies is a favourite.

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

LOL...are you serious?

Hahaha...damn.

Get real.

LOL...are you serious?

Hahaha...damn.

Get real.

Get real??

Ironic. It is 'getting real'.

As in giving a less blinkered view of christianity.

I think all christians should actually read parts of it.
Alot is humerous. Satanism is mocking.

They live in obsessive envy of we who exist by flowing naturally with the dread Prince of Darkness. It is for this reason that individuals who resonate with Satan have always been an alien elite, often outsiders in cultures whose masses pursue solace in an external deity. We Satanists are our own Gods, and we are the explorers of the Left-Hand Path.

Yepp...that sure is getting real. It's also very presumptous and condescending.

:rolleyes:

Yepp...that sure is getting real. It's also very presumptous and condescending.

:rolleyes:

Makes perfect sense to me.

Being ur own God i.e. Not being a follower, but a leader.

And if u think that is condescending, try reading the bible, which some people actually think is the word of God.

Satanism is about thinking for yourself.

I dont agree with all of it, but it is basically mocks christian rightousness.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Being ur own God i.e. Not being a follower, but a leader.

And if u think that is condescending, try reading the bible, which some people actually think is the word of God.

Satanism is about thinking for yourself.

I dont agree with all of it, but it is basically mocks christian rightousness.

OK, whatever, buddy. Nothing wrong with being righteous. I've read the Bible and am on my way to majoring in religion. You're being pretty damned righteous yourself, see the bold.

People that follow the Bible can and do thin for themselves, just as there are plenty of Satanists who are leftist weirdos who are anti-social.

Disbelieving a widely held view doesn't make you some kind of ingenuitive thinker, or free you in some way, not any more than Christianity does.

I think you must be overreacting to some evangelists you saw on TV.

OK, whatever, buddy. Nothing wrong with being righteous. I've read the Bible and am on my way to majoring in religion. You're being pretty damned righteous yourself, see the bold.

People that follow the Bible can and do thin for themselves, just as there are plenty of Satanists who are leftist weirdos who are anti-social.

Disbelieving a widely held view doesn't make you some kind of ingenuitive thinker, or free you in some way, not any more than Christianity does.

I think you must be overreacting to some evangelists you saw on TV.

How is that righteous? Some people think that the bible is the word of god?
If ur majoring in religion, then u would know where the bible comes from. Who wrote it. Egyptian law. Hindism as one of many precursors to christianity.

Im not saying, im right, ur wrong.
Or trying to start some big religious debate.

All im saying is, Satanism, from what i have read and experienced is a way of self empowerment that doesnt rely on you having to ask a god for forgiveness or praying to a god that threatens you with eternal damnation.

Im guessing you study all religions, and not just christianity?
You must know about paganism?

Im surprised you dont know about Satanism. Its celebrates creativism and self expression, Thats why i like it.

And see the bold....how many satamists do u know?

How is that righteous? Some people think that the bible is the word of god?
If ur majoring in religion, then u would know where the bible comes from. Who wrote it. Egyptian law. Hindism as one of many precursors to christianity.

Im not saying, im right, ur wrong.
Or trying to start some big religious debate.

All im saying is, Satanism, from what i have read and experienced is a way of self empowerment that doesnt rely on you having to ask a god for forgiveness or praying to a god that threatens you with eternal damnation.

Im guessing you study all religions, and not just christianity?
You must know about paganism?

Im surprised you dont know about Satanism. Its celebrates creativism and self expression, Thats why i like it.

Look. Satanism is just a give up. Giving up because they are afraid to just behave properly. The site itself hails giving in to the POD. Sure the Bible threatens you with damnation, if you are a sinner who does stupid **** like ****ing everyone or murdering! The Bible just has a simple moral code. But, I digress, I misspoke with the term righteous. Righteous after all does mean morally upright. Certainly following the Satan is not that. Maybe people who want to "think for themselves" should try to lend their religion more credibility by not calling it Satanism. I know thinking outside the box is just so damn cool, but Satanism? Gimme a break. And yeah I've studied paganism, as well as Islam and Hinduism, and other tribal religions.

Also, the Bible doesn't come from Egyptian Law. I don't know where you got that, but the Bible doesn't really come from ANY one place. It comes from many different eras and people in different circumstances.

Satanism was started recently, at least this 1966 version you posted, so there wouldn't be widespread study of it.

The closest religion that resembles my personal feeligns is that of Deism. Feel free to look it up or ask me if you're not sure about what it is.

Look. Satanism is just a give up. Giving up because they are afraid to just behave properly. The site itself hails giving in to the POD. Sure the Bible threatens you with damnation, if you are a sinner who does stupid **** like ****ing everyone or murdering! The Bible just has a simple moral code. But, I digress, I misspoke with the term righteous. Righteous after all does mean morally upright. Certainly following the Satan is not that. Maybe people who want to "think for themselves" should try to lend their religion more credibility by not calling it Satanism. I know thinking outside the box is just so damn cool, but Satanism? Gimme a break. And yeah I've studied paganism, as well as Islam and Hinduism, and other tribal religions.

Also, the Bible doesn't come from Egyptian Law. I don't know where you got that, but the Bible doesn't really come from ANY one place. It comes from many different eras and people in different circumstances.

Satanism was started recently, at least this 1966 version you posted, so there wouldn't be widespread study of it.

Firstly, u dont know any satanists! Yet apparently they are al anti social.

Secondly, the bible threatens people with damnation...if they **** everyone (whats wrong with ****ing???) And where in the bible does it say that?
And murdering. So, is it ok to murder somone who is trying to murder u?? In war for example. I mean, the bible is a mythalogical book. Open to many interpretations. Its a book of stories.

And why is Satanism not credible, while Christianity for some reason is?
Why is Christianity credable? Its fascinating, complex, but where does its credability come from?

The ten commandments were the 10 rules of Egyptian law.

Satanism is not about worshipping the devil. It celebrates diversity and the individual. It loves humour and purpousfully follows the stereotypical imagary that Christianity created. It mocks ignorance.

Where would christianity be without the devil? Where would god send the dammned?

The church is the one that relies on hell to scare people into going to church. Satanists dont believe in the devil. It is symbolic of earthly pleasures.

what religion is it if money, guns
and women are what you live by?

what religion is it if money, guns
and women are what you live by?



Sounds like Catholicism.

Firstly, u dont know any satanists! Yet apparently they are al anti social.

Secondly, the bible threatens people with damnation...if they **** everyone (whats wrong with ****ing???) And where in the bible does it say that?
And murdering. So, is it ok to murder somone who is trying to murder u?? In war for example. I mean, the bible is a mythalogical book. Open to many interpretations. Its a book of stories.

And why is Satanism not credible, while Christianity for some reason is?
Why is Christianity credable? Its fascinating, complex, but where does its credability come from?

The ten commandments were the 10 rules of Egyptian law.

Satanism is not about worshipping the devil. It celebrates diversity and the individual. It loves humour and purpousfully follows the stereotypical imagary that Christianity created. It mocks ignorance.

Where would christianity be without the devil? Where would god send the dammned?

The church is the one that relies on hell to scare people into going to church. Satanists dont believe in the devil. It is symbolic of earthly pleasures.

No, I don't know any Satanists except you. I don't need to. There's a difference between open-mindedness and just plain stupidity. Following Satan is stupid. And since you say you don't follow Satan, following this belief that you shpuld do whatthe****ever just because it's your "nature" isn't smart either.

It's not surprise to me you are a Satanist by your quote: "Secondly, the bible threatens people with damnation...if they **** everyone (whats wrong with ****ing???) And where in the bible does it say that? And murdering. So, is it ok to murder somone who is trying to murder u??"

Don't be an idiot. I said ****ing everyone and murdering. I didn't say having sex with your wife or self-defense. So do you defend promiscuity and violent acts? It was plain as day I am not talking about behaviors such as self defense.

Christianity's credibility comes from God. You do after all acknowledge Satan, who is mentioned in the Bible, and is who he is because of God in a sense. I guess you could say then that your religion's credibility comes from the Bible...yes the damed are sent to Satan. It just goes against common sense to worship the lord of the damned, or since you say you don't worship him (then why's it called Satanism) then to worship the "principle" of giving in to anarchy just because it's human nature, and that makes it ok. Even then, there are still a few people in this world (imagne that) who are more prone to kindness than anarchy.

So you mock "ignorance" which seems to equate to Christianity from this Satanist POV. And you're right. All Christians go the Church because they are just so damned scared of the Devil. In fact, they have nightmares every night about the Devil.

There are millions of Christians who don't even go to Church. Mocking Christianity because you think they are weak or "need" some kind of approval from God is laughable. People that have faith in God and Christ are some of the mentally strongest people on Earth.

I should also add I don't believe all Satanists are anti-social. you seem sociable enough. That doesn't make the "principles" of this religion any better though.

Also, another reason the Bible is credible is just basic common sense. The behaviors that the Bible and the people on the Bible want you to follow are just inherent common sense. Not everyone needs the face of God to tell them how to behave like a half-decenr human BEAN. (^_^)

No, I don't know any Satanists except you.
NEVER SAID I WAS A SATANIST. IVE ALREADY STATED BY BELIEFS IN THIS THREAD, I ONLY AM TRYING TO DEFEND SATANISM BECAUSE YOU DISREGARD IT WITHOUT KNOWING IT (kinda stupid dontcha think?)

I don't need to.

SO HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE ANTI SOCIAL??

There's a difference between open-mindedness and just plain stupidity. Following Satan is stupid.

ALREADY SAID IT ISNT ABOUT FOLLOWING SATAN. SATAN IS SYMBOLIC, AS IS JESUS.

And since you say you don't follow Satan, following this belief that you shpuld do whatthe****ever just because it's your "nature" isn't smart either.

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND AT ALL, WHERE DID I SAY SATANISM IS ABOUT THAT? WHERE DID YOU READ THAT? YOU HAVE PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS, WHICH ARE FALSE.

It's not surprise to me you are a Satanist

WRONG

by your quote: "Secondly, the bible threatens people with damnation...if they **** everyone (whats wrong with ****ing???) And where in the bible does it say that? And murdering. So, is it ok to murder somone who is trying to murder u??"

Don't be an idiot. I said ****ing everyone and murdering.

LOL, U SAID ****ING EVERYONE. WHO ****S EVERYONE??? AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH CONCENTUAL SEX BETWEEN TWO ADULTS??

I didn't say having sex with your wife or self-defense. So do you defend promiscuity

SEE ABOVE

and violent acts? It was plain as day I am not talking about behaviors such as self defense.

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY ITS OK TO MURDER IN SELF DEFENCE??
YOUR MAKING UP YOUR OWN RULES!

Christianity's credibility comes from God.

WHO'S GOD? WHICH GOD?

You do after all acknowledge Satan, who is mentioned in the Bible, and is who he is because of God in a sense. I guess you could say then that your religion's credibility comes from the Bible...yes the damed are sent to Satan. It just goes against common sense to worship the lord of the damned, or since you say you don't worship him (then why's it called Satanism

SATAN IS A REPRESENTATION OF PLEASURE, AND CELEBRATES THE SACREDNESS OF INDIVIDUALITY.

) then to worship the "principle" of giving in to anarchy just because it's human nature, and that makes it ok. Even then, there are still a few people in this world (imagne that) who are more prone to kindness than anarchy.

PLEASURE CAN BE LOVE AND KINDNESS AND ALL THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU ENJOY

So you mock "ignorance" which seems to equate to Christianity from this Satanist POV. And you're right. All Christians go the Church because they are just so damned scared of the Devil. In fact, they have nightmares every night about the Devil.

There are millions of Christians who don't even go to Church. Mocking Christianity because you think they are weak or "need" some kind of approval from God is laughable. People that have faith in God and Christ are some of the mentally strongest people on Earth.

IM SURE THERE ARE MANY GREAT CHRISTIANS, HALF MY FAMILY ARE CHRISTIAN, AND I DONT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST CHRISTIANS IN GENERAL, BUT I DO KNOW THAT SOME CHRISTIANS SEE FIT TO PUT DOWN SATANISM WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU DID.

SO I DEFENDED IT. FAITH IN GOD AND CHRIST CAN BE BEAUTIFUL. BUT DONT RIDICULE SATANSM.
MANY CHRISTIANS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEIR OWN RELIGION, WHO WROTE THE BIBLE. OR EVEN WHY THEY ARE CHRISTIANS. MANY ARE SCARED TO, AS THEY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH THE BELIEF THAT LIFE WITHOUT GOD MEANS HOPELESSNESS AND HAS NO PURPOSE.

I BELIVE THAT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO HAPPINESS AND SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT. I DONT BELIEVE IN RIDICULING SOMTHING I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.




Sorry for the caps, but i couldnt be bothered purtting everything in bold.

catholic.

its wonderful
you go into confession and you get the chance to start over as many times as you want

I should also add I don't believe all Satanists are anti-social. you seem sociable enough. That doesn't make the "principles" of this religion any better though.

WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES OF THIS RELIGION??

DO YOU EVEN KNOW??

Also, another reason the Bible is credible is just basic common sense. The behaviors that the Bible and the people on the Bible want you to follow are just inherent common sense. Not everyone needs the face of God to tell them how to behave like a half-decenr human BEAN. (^_^)



There many decent people who are not christian. Yet according the certain parst of the bible they need to except jesus in order to go to heaven.
Thats not very nice IMO.

I am other.

To specify, I believe in God and Jesus. I believe that the Catholic church does not serve either, only themselves.

I believe that Evangelicals are crazy.

I was raised Catholic, but am Agnostic now

Protestants are Christians.


If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, and that he died on the cross for our sins, then you are a Christian.
Not quite Sonny.

It's not the "believing" in the techings, it's the living. To simply believe Jesus was the Son of God, who died for our sins and was resurrected, doesn't make you a Christian.

Striving to be Christ-Like is being Christian. Anthing else doesn't matter.

Myself, I'm Pagan. Not Wiccan.

I am other.

To specify, I believe in God and Jesus. I believe that the Catholic church does not serve either, only themselves.

I believe that Evangelicals are crazy.
Evangelicals = Crazy. That's too wide a brush, don't you think?

Do you call your man Jesus "crazy", since he gave the apostles a charge to "spread the word of God"?

Roman Catholic.

I thought you said you were Jewish?

*identity crisis*
Roman Catholic.

There many decent people who are not christian. Yet according the certain parst of the bible they need to except jesus in order to go to heaven.
Thats not very nice IMO.

Tough titty, at least according to the religion. Yes, they do need to "except" Jesus. How's that not nice? At least according to the Bible: Dems da rules. If ya don't like em, you can go to hell, and that's your right. Faith is an important thing in this world, and people have lost sight of that, apparently. But I know, it's not "nice", so they all should go to heaven.

NEVER SAID I WAS A SATANIST. IVE ALREADY STATED BY BELIEFS IN THIS THREAD, I ONLY AM TRYING TO DEFEND SATANISM BECAUSE YOU DISREGARD IT WITHOUT KNOWING IT (kinda stupid dontcha think?)

Fair enough, you're not a Satanist. You were defending it so defiantly I figured you were. I don't disregard it without knowing it. I'm reading right from the Church of Satan website. So no, not stupid at all.

ALREADY SAID IT ISNT ABOUT FOLLOWING SATAN. SATAN IS SYMBOLIC, AS IS JESUS.

Well, it IS about Satan, so you are wrong. If you're going to defend it, defend what it is about instead of trying to make into something else. This is directly from the website:

we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos which is permeated and motivated by the Dark Force which we call Satan. Over the course of time, Man has called this Force by many names, and it has been reviled by those whose very nature causes them to be separate from this fountainhead of existence. They live in obsessive envy of we who exist by flowing naturally with the dread Prince of Darkness. It is for this reason that individuals who resonate with Satan have always been an alien elite

If you wanna try to spin how Satanism how little or nothing to do with Satan, go ahead.

LOL, U SAID ****ING EVERYONE. WHO ****S EVERYONE??? AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH CONCENTUAL SEX BETWEEN TWO ADULTS??

Man...you seem to have a really tough time with coloquial English. "Who ****s everyone?" Obviously, this means being promiscous. There are plenty of cases when consentual sex is wrong, such as when it is engaged in by people that are cheating on their spouses, is used to hurt someone in some way emotionally, or occurs between a minor and an adult. Just because it is consentual, that doesn't make it ok.

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY ITS OK TO MURDER IN SELF DEFENCE??
YOUR MAKING UP YOUR OWN RULES!

The Bible does not say that, and again, you are misleading everyone. I never said the Bible says that. The Bible does say thall shalt not kill, which if you take it literally means you cannot kill in any case. Or, you might interpret that you can kill in self defense. In any case, the issue is MURDER. Let's go over this again, kids. You seen it as a fault that the Bible threatens people with eternal damnation, and my retort was basically: "No ****, it threatens people who are immoral and need to act right, like murderers and sluts, so what?"

SATAN IS A REPRESENTATION OF PLEASURE, AND CELEBRATES THE SACREDNESS OF INDIVIDUALITY.

Ok, if you feel that way, fine. But since when is giving in to temptations and pleasures the way to go? Again, common sense. "If it feels good do it" is common sense?

I DO KNOW THAT SOME CHRISTIANS SEE FIT TO PUT DOWN SATANISM WITHOUT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT IT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU DID.

Well, actually, as proven earlier, no I didn't do that. But I can see how your views might be swayed by antagonistics, so that's understandable.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/raesaad/jesuslovesyou.jpg

:crucified :wtf1: :puke:

Evangelicals = Crazy. That's too wide a brush, don't you think?

Do you call your man Jesus "crazy", since he gave the apostles a charge to "spread the word of God"?

There is a difference between what many evangelicles do and what the apostles did.

The apostles and Jesus simply talked. You could listen to what they wanted or not.

Many evangelicals want a government that FORCES people to live the way THEY interpret Jesus wants us all to live. Their interpretation of course is completely off base.

People should not engage in religious discussions without the benefit of alcahol.

People should not engage in religious discussions without the benefit of alcahol.

Or acid...

Or acid...

But acid is a religious experience itself. If one enbibes what is the sense of having a discussion?

But acid is a religious experience itself. If one enbibes what is the sense of having a discussion?

So you can trick the cute girl you're tripping with into thinking that you're a genius.

So you can convince the cute girl you're tripping with that you're a genius.

You can do that with alcahol too.

You can do that with alcahol too.

True, true. Some girls really fall for the pothead philosopher routine, though. See Donald Sutherland's character in Animal House for details.

True, true. Some girls really fall for the pothead philosopher routine, though. See Donald Sutherland's character in Animal House for details.

Yeah, that was hilarious. But it shouldn't really count. Otter was a bit of a douchebag.

Tough titty, at least according to the religion. Yes, they do need to "except" Jesus. How's that not nice? At least according to the Bible: Dems da rules. If ya don't like em, you can go to hell, and that's your right. Faith is an important thing in this world, and people have lost sight of that, apparently. But I know, it's not "nice", so they all should go to heaven.

It sounds like the christian god is a petty liitle bitter man.

There are many great decent people who are going to hell according to the christian faith.

Seems like god is a bit of a twat!

The "God" that created this world has definitely moved on to more interesting things.
We're on our own.

It sounds like the christian god is a petty liitle bitter man.

There are many great decent people who are going to hell according to the christian faith.

Seems like god is a bit of a twat!

EXACTLY. How is god a loving god and a twat at the same time? Also, if God is so omnipotent why do we assign him very human qualities such as "loving" or a "twat"? Christianity has NO answer for this.

I really think that Christianity needs a modern thinker to make it more relevant today. I don't mean someone who is a social liberal, though I think that that would be helpful as well. But I'm thinking of someone here who can resolve Christianity with modern science and modern worldviews.

Martin Luther and the other Protestant thinkers took Christianity and remodeled it for a freer, more individualistic Europe than what existed in the Middle Ages. The basic tenets of Christianity were still there, so it's not as if anyone had to change what they believed in. We need someone like that today who can put Christanity in a context where it can be useful to people again. Despite the evangelical revival in the States, Christianity overall is a dying religion at the moment.

George Carlin's views on religion are as close to being facts as I have ever heard.

George Carlin's views on religion are as close to being facts as I have ever heard.
I tend to agree that was very funny but made alot of sense too.

Catholic(non practicing) but I'm married to an Irish Prodestant, so what you may ask but its a big deal with the inlaws, the wedding was a right bag of laughs!!!

Bearing in mind they kill each other in Ireland over religion!

Fair enough, you're not a Satanist. You were defending it so defiantly I figured you were. I don't disregard it without knowing it. I'm reading right from the Church of Satan website. So no, not stupid at all.



Well, it IS about Satan, so you are wrong. If you're going to defend it, defend what it is about instead of trying to make into something else. This is directly from the website:

we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos which is permeated and motivated by the Dark Force which we call Satan. Over the course of time, Man has called this Force by many names, and it has been reviled by those whose very nature causes them to be separate from this fountainhead of existence. They live in obsessive envy of we who exist by flowing naturally with the dread Prince of Darkness. It is for this reason that individuals who resonate with Satan have always been an alien elite

If you wanna try to spin how Satanism how little or nothing to do with Satan, go ahead.

lol, i have already stated it is symbolic. Never said it has nothing to do with Satan. Anyone who actually believes in Satan is a fool. If u keep on reading.....u have spent all of ten minutes reading from the website :rolleyes: and think u know wat u are talking about.



Man...you seem to have a really tough time with coloquial English. "Who ****s everyone?" Obviously, this means being promiscous. There are plenty of cases when consentual sex is wrong, such as when it is engaged in by people that are cheating on their spouses, is used to hurt someone in some way emotionally, or occurs between a minor and an adult. Just because it is consentual, that doesn't make it ok.




The Bible does not say that, and again, you are misleading everyone. I never said the Bible says that. The Bible does say thall shalt not kill, which if you take it literally means you cannot kill in any case. Or, you might interpret that you can kill in self defense. In any case, the issue is MURDER. Let's go over this again, kids. You seen it as a fault that the Bible threatens people with eternal damnation, and my retort was basically: "No ****, it threatens people who are immoral and need to act right, like murderers and sluts, so what?"

So is it wrong to kill somone for the right reasons or not? Are soilders murders? I know u can justify some murder, but where in the bible does it say, its u must use commons sense?

to me, its common sense to think that jesus didnt die and return to life. Or that god created the world in seven days.



Immorality is subjective. Right and wrong are subjective. The problem i have with somone saying that the bible is the word of God, is that the bible can be interpretated in hundreds of different ways, and therefore can be used to justify somones stupidity.
And with the punishment of hell as a threat, who is going to heaven?
With everyone leading different lives, some murders being justified by some and condemmnd by others. It kinda is a big grey area.


Yes we must use common sense. But some people take it literally. Some say its the word of God, yet dont take it literally.

Ok, if you feel that way, fine. But since when is giving in to temptations and pleasures the way to go? Again, common sense. "If it feels good do it" is common sense?

Every sistuation is different. Theres nothing wrong with giving in to a temptation if its not hurting anyone.


Well, actually, as proven earlier, no I didn't do that. But I can see how your views might be swayed by antagonistics, so that's understandable.

Basically, i dont understand why if somone doesnt believe in jesus, or god, will be sent to hell. If they are a good person in general, learn from their mistakes, follow their heart, but dont ask for forgiveness from god (could be true of many satanists) yet still according to christianity will go to hell.

Isnt that ****ed up to u?
:rolleyes:

i had no religion till i realized that i was born french to pay for my sins in another life .

dudes ... is not cool being an aethist

notice how nobody admitted to being a jew

It sounds like the christian god is a petty liitle bitter man.

There are many great decent people who are going to hell according to the christian faith.

Seems like god is a bit of a twat!


Man. What a *****. I'm sorry but that's the weakest whiniest **** I've heard. Wah Wah wah God is a ****? Gimme a break. You expected this to be easy.

Obviously you wouldn't get it seeing as how you just think it's ok to give into temptations, etc etc. Loose moral code. I know I know, it's just so difficult to do what God asks of ya. When you go to hell, you'll have regrets. But I know you only care about this life. Good luck with that.

Again, I already addressed the issue of killing. you don't listen. Open your ears. Killing and self defense are two different things, and I was referring to one and not the other. Stop wasting my time talking about something that was never the topic anyway. And I don't "think" I know what I'm talkin about, I know what I'm talkin about. You seem very confused about the issues that can read directly from the website. Even if YOU think Satan is symbolic, it doesn't say that, and furthermore, it's still "flowing with the natural chaos of Satan" which is moronic.

Additionally, who are you to question what God can do? If you don't believe in God, that's fine, but it's pretty damn stupid to say hypothetically that if there is a God that he couldn't create a world in 7 days. If you do believe in God, you'd have to believe he has, well, the powers of a God. Making a world in 7 days is not supposed to make sense for humans to do, that would be stupid. Again, it's common sense. God(s) are powerful. Either way, this mess about the world being created in 7 days could be symbolic, and still doesn't in any way discredit the notion of God creating the world.

The Bible can be interpreted in different ways, but you'll find in the different denominations that all these interpretations are closely related in most cases. There are some that are just obviously erratic in interpretation. Just because you say "I interpret it this way" doesn't mean it's right or legit to interpret it that way.

Additionally, morality is not subjective in most cases. There are gray areas now and then, but just because of that you are going to say God is illegit? Weak. Morality is just plain common sense. People can try to justify certain things all they want, but they will still go to hell if it is wrong. They may argue against their good common sense why they committed a crime, but that's to defend themselves, not to save themselves from God's wrath. I guess you just don't have a good internal sense of what is right and wrong.

Man. What a *****. I'm sorry but that's the weakest whiniest **** I've heard. Wah Wah wah God is a ****? Gimme a break. You expected this to be easy.

Obviously you wouldn't get it seeing as how you just think it's ok to give into temptations, etc etc. Loose moral code. I know I know, it's just so difficult to do what God asks of ya. When you go to hell, you'll have regrets. But I know you only care about this life. Good luck with that.

Again, I already addressed the issue of killing. you don't listen. Open your ears. Killing and self defense are two different things, and I was referring to one and not the other. Stop wasting my time talking about something that was never the topic anyway. And I don't "think" I know what I'm talkin about, I know what I'm talkin about. You seem very confused about the issues that can read directly from the website. Even if YOU think Satan is symbolic, it doesn't say that, and furthermore, it's still "flowing with the natural chaos of Satan" which is moronic.

Additionally, who are you to question what God can do? If you don't believe in God, that's fine, but it's pretty damn stupid to say hypothetically that if there is a God that he couldn't create a world in 7 days. If you do believe in God, you'd have to believe he has, well, the powers of a God. Making a world in 7 days is not supposed to make sense for humans to do, that would be stupid. Again, it's common sense. God(s) are powerful. Either way, this mess about the world being created in 7 days could be symbolic, and still doesn't in any way discredit the notion of God creating the world.

The Bible can be interpreted in different ways, but you'll find in the different denominations that all these interpretations are closely related in most cases. There are some that are just obviously erratic in interpretation. Just because you say "I interpret it this way" doesn't mean it's right or legit to interpret it that way.

Additionally, morality is not subjective in most cases. There are gray areas now and then, but just because of that you are going to say God is illegit? Weak. Morality is just plain common sense. People can try to justify certain things all they want, but they will still go to hell if it is wrong. They may argue against their good common sense why they committed a crime, but that's to defend themselves, not to save themselves from God's wrath. I guess you just don't have a good internal sense of what is right and wrong.

Ok. Im tired. And im breaking out into a rash everytime i respond.

We're not going to understand each others point of view.

I believe there is nothing wrong with being a satanist. You disagree.

I dont have a problem with christianity in general, i believe faith can be great. But i dont like being condemmnd for just being myself. And not believing on god.

I think when religions start saying that they are right, and other faiths are wrong it creates divides and segregates. It causes conflict and does not unite people of different beliefs.

Condemming people to hell for not sharing the same beliefs serves no positive purpose.

The only thing that annoys me about christians is the ones who are hypocrites. The ones who instead of actually following jesus's example, and devouting their lives to helping others, are only interested in themselves and getting to heaven, whilst spending money on material possessions, basically doing whatever makes them happy. Not being christ-like at all.
Yet they will get offended by somone saying little things that are not christian.

So, im sure your busy helping the homless and trying to feed the starving as i type this. Goodluck with that.

Forgive me for saying anything bad. I guess u have to.

1) You're not Christian of behaving like a Christian if you do those things. Being a materialist is not Christian behavior, but everyone has a buys things. There is an extreme when you let it run your life and spoil your family, and it should never come to that. That'd be a sin.

2) Feeding homeless people is not any kind of requirement and doesn't have anything to do with anything we've discussed. I donate what I can here and there though, just to do my part. I never made myself out to be some kind of saint. I could list all the good things I do but that would come off as holier than thou, and I'm sure that'd irk you. I do bad things as well that I hope I'll be forgiven for and that I know I can't keep doing.

3) Condemnation does serve a purpose. Satanism is not a faith, it is an unfaith, a faith in nothing. It mocks and smacks of apathy. I do not condemn other religions like Islam or Judaism.

4) You've let your experience with so-called Christians blind you and make you a cynic. Either way, I should not have resorted to name calling. I would never call you a name to your face, so I don't know why people do it on computers so much. I shoulda just kept it clean, so for that I apologize.

Maybe you will have an experience that will allow you to accept God and have faith. That's what I'll hope for. There is no use hoping for someone to go to hell just to prove a point. Agree to disagree is what we have done I hope. Good day.

seriously, il read it another time.

its stressing me out.

and im eating.

Satanism is not a faith, it is an unfaith, a faith in nothing. It mocks and smacks of apathy. I do not condemn other religions like Islam or Judaism.
The Old Testament says that "Satan" was the most beautiful of all the angels in Heaven, before being banished to Hell by God. In fact, Hell was originally created for Satan and his followers. Satan is the Christian "God of Evil".

Satanism is in fact a faith. Followers of Satan sometimes don't know they are Satanists, because they simply wander this Earth totally unconscuious of the impact of their actions and ignorance. Then there are the dedidcated Satanists, who have always existed, who celebrate the power and glory of Satan, the favourite (formerly) angel of God. Unfortunately, the Satanists are wrongly confused with Wiccans and/or Pagans

I am so tired of our generation of “non-thinkers” and “non-researchers” I am sick to my stomach. I wish the world would realize that there is no Jesus coming back to save the world! We talk about tricks of the enemy but THAT is the real trick. To keep us waiting on an imaginary character to come an save us. We must save ourselves from the powers that be who control our minds through fear along with other subtle and blatant forms of coercion. The Bible, though I respect the lessons, is purely allegory. It is not suppose to be taken literally. It is full of lessons through the use of stories. We do not need a figure by the name of Jesus to contact God directly. Religion teaches us to disregard the very quality that God has blessed us with. LOGIC! Growing up I was told to not ask questions and not to think when it comes to religion. I was told to “just have faith.” That is the biggest scam I have ever heard! We are a generation of thinkers when it comes to our professions but we are totally naive when it comes to religion.

The story of Jesus (Yeshua Ben Yosef) is a big scam. No figure ever came to die for our sins. That is totally ridiculous! The story of Jesus has been told for centuries. Did you know that figure Jesus was called other names. Mythras in 500 B.C., Crite in 1200B.C. All of these figures died by a death on the cross and supposedly re-lived on the 3rd day and whoever was to believe in them should have everlasting life. The last days actually refers to the last days through the house of the Zodiac. That supposed evil astrology is what dictates the existence of the universe and its laws. Right now we are in the house of Pisces which is always denoted by 2 fishes. Any correlation with the sign of the fish when it comes to Jesus? Of course. Look at the cars while traveling. They have insignias with the word “Jesus” within the figure shaped as a fish. We are all influenced by astrology. It is even in the Bible. We are about to leave the house of Pisces and go into another house. This is what is meant by the “last days.” The last days of the world we know.

Please my people wake up and see what is going on around you. Have sprituality and not religion. Religion is a scam and controls by fear and misinformation. We are told to be good now so we can have heaven later when we die. Heaven and Hell really are right here on earth! You can have Heaven right now. Control your own thinking and do your own research. Where did my research come from?

“The Hiram Key” By Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas

“Freemasonry, Christianity” by Manly P. Hall

“The Biggest Secret” by David Icke

“The Truth Shall Set You Free” by David Icke

“Rule by Secrecy” by Jim Marrs

These are just a few. Don’t just believe me see for yourself! My people please go to Borders or Barnes and Nobles immediately your life depends on it! Go to the Metaphysics section and just explore these titles and others. Dont be scared! OPEN UP YOUR MIND TO NEW REALITIES AND NEW CONCEPTS OF LIVING AND DESPOSE OF THE REAL TRICK OF THE ENEMY….”IGNORANCE”. Take control of your right to live in prosperity and abundance. The powers that be just want you ignorant and afraid, which is a true formula that leads to depression and unfulfillment within your lives. PLEASE THINK MY GENERATION OF GODS! YOUR MENTAL POWER AND CAPACITIES HAVE POWER WITH THE UNIVERSE. WHATEVER YOU THINK IN YOUR MIND AND BELIEVE IN YOUR HEARTS CREATES YOUR OWN HEAVEN AND HELL. LET OUR MOST NOBLE GOD COME INTO YOUR MINDS WITH HIS INFINITE INTELLIGENCE AND DISPELL THOSE EVIL MYTHS THAT HAS PENETRATED THROUGH OUR GENERATIONS.

The major thing I did learn of the stories of Jesus in Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that we must live our lives according to his story. We must awaken and come against the Pharisees(The evil powers that be). We must practice love and healing of one another. Don’t let another word of your Pastors and religious leaders penetrate your mental capacity without you doing your own research! YOU are responsible for your own knowledge of life. From this day forward don’t ever be so irresponsible as to let others dictate your lives and your belief systems. If you believe something be prepared to back it up with research and facts that you diligently worked for and read on your own.

But the penguins!!!


THE PENGUINS!!!!

I am so tired of our generation of “non-thinkers” and “non-researchers” I am sick to my stomach. I wish the world would realize that there is no Jesus coming back to save the world! We talk about tricks of the enemy but THAT is the real trick. To keep us waiting on an imaginary character to come an save us. We must save ourselves from the powers that be who control our minds through fear along with other subtle and blatant forms of coercion. The Bible, though I respect the lessons, is purely allegory. It is not suppose to be taken literally. It is full of lessons through the use of stories. We do not need a figure by the name of Jesus to contact God directly. Religion teaches us to disregard the very quality that God has blessed us with. LOGIC! Growing up I was told to not ask questions and not to think when it comes to religion. I was told to “just have faith.” That is the biggest scam I have ever heard! We are a generation of thinkers when it comes to our professions but we are totally naive when it comes to religion.

The story of Jesus (Yeshua Ben Yosef) is a big scam. No figure ever came to die for our sins. That is totally ridiculous! The story of Jesus has been told for centuries. Did you know that figure Jesus was called other names. Mythras in 500 B.C., Crite in 1200B.C. All of these figures died by a death on the cross and supposedly re-lived on the 3rd day and whoever was to believe in them should have everlasting life. The last days actually refers to the last days through the house of the Zodiac. That supposed evil astrology is what dictates the existence of the universe and its laws. Right now we are in the house of Pisces which is always denoted by 2 fishes. Any correlation with the sign of the fish when it comes to Jesus? Of course. Look at the cars while traveling. They have insignias with the word “Jesus” within the figure shaped as a fish. We are all influenced by astrology. It is even in the Bible. We are about to leave the house of Pisces and go into another house. This is what is meant by the “last days.” The last days of the world we know.

Please my people wake up and see what is going on around you. Have sprituality and not religion. Religion is a scam and controls by fear and misinformation. We are told to be good now so we can have heaven later when we die. Heaven and Hell really are right here on earth! You can have Heaven right now. Control your own thinking and do your own research. Where did my research come from?

“The Hiram Key” By Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas

“Freemasonry, Christianity” by Manly P. Hall

“The Biggest Secret” by David Icke

“The Truth Shall Set You Free” by David Icke

“Rule by Secrecy” by Jim Marrs

These are just a few. Don’t just believe me see for yourself! My people please go to Borders or Barnes and Nobles immediately your life depends on it! Go to the Metaphysics section and just explore these titles and others. Dont be scared! OPEN UP YOUR MIND TO NEW REALITIES AND NEW CONCEPTS OF LIVING AND DESPOSE OF THE REAL TRICK OF THE ENEMY….”IGNORANCE”. Take control of your right to live in prosperity and abundance. The powers that be just want you ignorant and afraid, which is a true formula that leads to depression and unfulfillment within your lives. PLEASE THINK MY GENERATION OF GODS! YOUR MENTAL POWER AND CAPACITIES HAVE POWER WITH THE UNIVERSE. WHATEVER YOU THINK IN YOUR MIND AND BELIEVE IN YOUR HEARTS CREATES YOUR OWN HEAVEN AND HELL. LET OUR MOST NOBLE GOD COME INTO YOUR MINDS WITH HIS INFINITE INTELLIGENCE AND DISPELL THOSE EVIL MYTHS THAT HAS PENETRATED THROUGH OUR GENERATIONS.

The major thing I did learn of the stories of Jesus in Mark, Matthew, and Luke is that we must live our lives according to his story. We must awaken and come against the Pharisees(The evil powers that be). We must practice love and healing of one another. Don’t let another word of your Pastors and religious leaders penetrate your mental capacity without you doing your own research! YOU are responsible for your own knowledge of life. From this day forward don’t ever be so irresponsible as to let others dictate your lives and your belief systems. If you believe something be prepared to back it up with research and facts that you diligently worked for and read on your own.


You may well have more than a kernel of truth in there, but David Icke and co are absolute nutjobs and that rather destroys your credibility.

You may well have more than a kernel of truth in there, but David Icke and co are absolute nutjobs and that rather destroys your credibility.
true

Icke thinks the queen is a lizard.

But other beliefs are just as bizarre yet totally accepted in todays society.

what religion is it if money, guns
and women are what you live by?

Sounds like Catholicism.
HAHAHAHAHA Beautifull

The Old Testament says that "Satan" was the most beautiful of all the angels in Heaven, before being banished to Hell by God. In fact, Hell was originally created for Satan and his followers. Satan is the Christian "God of Evil".

Satanism is in fact a faith. Followers of Satan sometimes don't know they are Satanists, because they simply wander this Earth totally unconscuious of the impact of their actions and ignorance. Then there are the dedidcated Satanists, who have always existed, who celebrate the power and glory of Satan, the favourite (formerly) angel of God. Unfortunately, the Satanists are wrongly confused with Wiccans and/or Pagans

Satanism, the religion he was describing, is not a faith. It just mocks Christians and sees faith as a weakness. It is an unfaith. It belives in flowing with the POD and your "natural" tendency to do bad things. What kind of faith is that?

P.S. I know all about what Satan is, not sure where you were going with that.

The story of Jesus (Yeshua Ben Yosef) is a big scam. No figure ever came to die for our sins. That is totally ridiculous! The story of Jesus has been told for centuries. Did you know that figure Jesus was called other names. Mythras in 500 B.C., Crite in 1200B.C. All of these figures died by a death on the cross and supposedly re-lived on the 3rd day and whoever was to believe in them should have everlasting life. The last days actually refers to the last days through the house of the Zodiac. That supposed evil astrology is what dictates the existence of the universe and its laws. Right now we are in the house of Pisces which is always denoted by 2 fishes. Any correlation with the sign of the fish when it comes to Jesus? Of course. Look at the cars while traveling. They have insignias with the word “Jesus” within the figure shaped as a fish. We are all influenced by astrology. It is even in the Bible. We are about to leave the house of Pisces and go into another house. This is what is meant by the “last days.” The last days of the world we know.

No figure came to die for our sins says who? Did you ever sit and think maybe there's a reason Jesus the Christ got more validity than those other figures? There are stories similar to Jesus but that does not make the real Jesus' life and sacrifices fake or meaningless. There are plenty of great thinkers in history who were religious or believed in God, such as Plato and Socrates.

But yeah...astrology dictates our lives... :rolleyes:

There are historical documents other than the bible that support the existance of Jesus. Whether he was the son of God or not, these other documents cannot prove. He did however have very controversial views about the Jewish religious institution for which he was eventually killed.

May God Save Your Souls Unbelievers!!

Search for his God existence not his Absence.

1) You're not Christian of behaving like a Christian if you do those things. Being a materialist is not Christian behavior, but everyone has a buys things. There is an extreme when you let it run your life and spoil your family, and it should never come to that. That'd be a sin.

2) Feeding homeless people is not any kind of requirement and doesn't have anything to do with anything we've discussed. I donate what I can here and there though, just to do my part. I never made myself out to be some kind of saint. I could list all the good things I do but that would come off as holier than thou, and I'm sure that'd irk you. I do bad things as well that I hope I'll be forgiven for and that I know I can't keep doing.

3) Condemnation does serve a purpose. Satanism is not a faith, it is an unfaith, a faith in nothing. It mocks and smacks of apathy. I do not condemn other religions like Islam or Judaism.

4) You've let your experience with so-called Christians blind you and make you a cynic. Either way, I should not have resorted to name calling. I would never call you a name to your face, so I don't know why people do it on computers so much. I shoulda just kept it clean, so for that I apologize.

Maybe you will have an experience that will allow you to accept God and have faith. That's what I'll hope for. There is no use hoping for someone to go to hell just to prove a point. Agree to disagree is what we have done I hope. Good day.

Youre alrite.

I was a christian up till the age of 17. My experience was actually pretty good, but i began to disagree with alot of it, and came to the decision that if god is all knowing than he will know i am givivng up my faith because had to. I didnt like the guilty feelings i had when i didnt pray, or didnt go to church etc. I didnt need that guilt on me. It was bringing me down.

I except peoples faiths, and never try to say that they are wrong or stupid, or their beliefs are moronic. Different strokes for differnt folks i say.
I dont know everything about satanism, but it isnt the animal sacrificing, virgin raping religion that people make it out to be.
It does look down on christianity, but i took from it the absolute self belief element. Maybe it exchanges faith in god, for total belief in oneself.?

It doesnt advocate doing anything bad to anyone else, or being anti social. I found it an often dark humoured, inspiring religion, but thats me.

It plays up to the devil worshipping sterotype as a bit of fun. Theatre. But also acts as a deterent to those who judge on apperance and first impression. It welcomes those who are open minded enough to look further.

true

Icke thinks the queen is a lizard.

But other beliefs are just as bizarre yet totally accepted in todays society.


We should question everything I suppose.

I'm nominally a Catholic, but i'm really just someone who investigates all religion as it can be fascinating.

Protestants are Christians.


If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, and that he died on the cross for our sins, then you are a Christian.


Not necessarly true. You've heard of a Babptist church, a methodist church, a christian church...they are all protestant but all are different.

Get real??

Ironic. It is 'getting real'.

As in giving a less blinkered view of christianity.

I think all christians should actually read parts of it.
Alot is humerous. Satanism is mocking.


Satanism is the opposite of Christianity, therefore that book is the opposite of the Bible. And every single word of the bible is truth, so what do you think every single word of that book is?

Firstly, u dont know any satanists! Yet apparently they are al anti social.

Secondly, the bible threatens people with damnation...if they **** everyone (whats wrong with ****ing???) And where in the bible does it say that?
And murdering. So, is it ok to murder somone who is trying to murder u?? In war for example. I mean, the bible is a mythalogical book. Open to many interpretations. Its a book of stories.

And why is Satanism not credible, while Christianity for some reason is?
Why is Christianity credable? Its fascinating, complex, but where does its credability come from?

The ten commandments were the 10 rules of Egyptian law.

Satanism is not about worshipping the devil. It celebrates diversity and the individual. It loves humour and purpousfully follows the stereotypical imagary that Christianity created. It mocks ignorance.

Where would christianity be without the devil? Where would god send the dammned?

The church is the one that relies on hell to scare people into going to church. Satanists dont believe in the devil. It is symbolic of earthly pleasures.


Christianity is so credible, because not a single word of in the bible has been proven wrong yet. And all of its prophecies have come true. Plus there are many historical findings that support the bible, an example would be the finding of Sodom and Gomorah in the dead sea. 5 Cities were found around the dead sea all filled with sulfur.

And in the bible it said And GOD reigned fire and sulfur upon Sodomo and Gomorahh.

Christianity is so credible, because not a single word of in the bible has been proven wrong yet. And all of its prophecies have come true. Plus there are many historical findings that support the bible, an example would be the finding of Sodom and Gomorah in the dead sea. 5 Cities were found around the dead sea all filled with sulfur.

And in the bible it said And GOD reigned fire and sulfur upon Sodomo and Gomorahh.



What a nice forgiving guy that God of ours is! Amen! :D

Christianity is so credible, because not a single word of in the bible has been proven wrong yet. And all of its prophecies have come true. Plus there are many historical findings that support the bible, an example would be the finding of Sodom and Gomorah in the dead sea. 5 Cities were found around the dead sea all filled with sulfur.

And in the bible it said And GOD reigned fire and sulfur upon Sodomo and Gomorahh.

That is a fallacy that "Not a single word has been proven wrong yet." You can't prove a negative. There are historical accounts which contradict biblical accounts. Also there is the fact about 20 years of Jesus' life are left out of the book. There is plenty of ground the bible does not cover, and plenty of other documents that could have been included in the bible but weren't by the Church Authorities that were.

Satanism is the opposite of Christianity, therefore that book is the opposite of the Bible. And every single word of the bible is truth, so what do you think every single word of that book is?


Holy crap!

Youre right!!

ITS ALL SO CLEAR TO ME NOW!

I'm the last surviving member of the Heaven's Gate cult. I was too chicken **** to take the poison :( .

I'm the last surviving member of the Heaven's Gate cult. I was too chicken **** to take the poison :( .

Is that the one where u had to chop off ur bollocks and wait for the alien spacecraft?

I'm the last surviving member of the Heaven's Gate cult. I was too chicken **** to take the poison :( .

WOW! I thought I was the only one.

I was too scared to do the castration thing too. Howabout you?

The are some close minded, borderline fanatics in this thread.

Merry ****ing xmas, ****ing heathens.

WOW! I thought I was the only one.

I was too scared to do the castration thing too. Howabout you?

I refused, but I fell asleep during the Star Trek marathon and they jumped me :tragedy: .

I refused, but I fell asleep during the Star Trek marathon and they jumped me :tragedy: .

How could you fall asleep during STAR TREK??? :eek:

How could you fall asleep during STAR TREK??? :eek:


Maybe they were showing Voyager?

Maybe they were showing Voyager?

lol, that must have been it.

Maybe they were showing Voyager?

Maybe the first season before it had Jeri Ryan.

Maybe the first season before it had Jeri Ryan.


I though Jeri Ryan grew a bit tiresome towards the end of voyager, they'd go too focused on her that it was almost a fanboy wankathon.



Must have been the second season, Voyager's nadir.

I though Jeri Ryan grew a bit tiresome towards the end of voyager, they'd go too focused on her that it was almost a fanboy wankathon.



Must have been the second season, Voyager's nadir.

Like I actually know......

Like I actually know......
Happy B-day........bro some cheese dick has me on ignore so I can't post in your B-day thread so thought I would say it here.

Happy B-day........bro some cheese dick has me on ignore so I can't post in your B-day thread so thought I would say it here.

No problem. Thanks.

And on the topic of this thread, I am Jesus. Just so ya'll know.

I'm agnostic.

And on the topic of this thread, I am Jesus. Just so ya'll know.

Jesus, of the Christ family of Syracuse?

Jesus, of the Christ family of Syracuse?

You said it man. Don't **** with the Jesus!!!!

where all the jews hiding..come on we know your here














disguised as lampshades

The Nine Satanic Statements

1.) Satan represents Indulgence, instead of Abstinence!

2.) Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3.) Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4.) Satan represents kindness to those who deserv it, insyead of love wasted on ingrates!

5.) Satan represents vengence, instead of turning the other cheek!

6.) Satan represents responcibility to the responcible, instead of concern for the psychic vampires!

7.) Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development" has become the most vicous animal of all!

8.) Satan represent all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9.) Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!

a quote from the Satanic Bible written by Anton LaVey...

"Anyone who thinks of satan as evil should consider all the men, women, children, and animals who have died because it was "Gods will".

Also something to think about, if Christians are so rigtheous and god fearing ones who should be following the ten commandments and what not, why do they make up over 64% of the prison population in the U.S.?

They're also damn dirty heretics as well. :D ;)
For that comment you are now a heretic. :mad:

For that comment you are now a heretic. :mad:

Heretics are just people who come up with different interpretations. Usually people who can think on their own and don't need **** fed to them. I wonder why it is insulting to call someone a heretic?

Heretics are just people who come up with different interpretations. Usually people who can think on their own and don't need **** fed to them. I wonder why it is insulting to call someone a heretic?
A heritic is a person who holds controversial opinions, especially one who publicly dissents from the officially accepted dogma of the Roman Catholic Church.

Anyone remember that 3D shooter Heretic? It was built off of the Doom engine, I believe, and released through ID though they didn't develop it. It was okay.

i remember heretic. killing with ur magic wand..

p.s. no one admit their jew?!?

I'm rastafarian :439:

i remember heretic. killing with ur magic wand..

p.s. no one admit their jew?!?
we know there must be jews here.

where theres points.....

Everyone is an Aetheist, coz evryone doesnt believe in somone eles God.





Well, thats wat the TV told me.

The Nine Satanic Statements

1.) Satan represents Indulgence, instead of Abstinence!

2.) Satan represents vital existence, instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

3.) Satan represents undefiled wisdom, instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

4.) Satan represents kindness to those who deserv it, insyead of love wasted on ingrates!

5.) Satan represents vengence, instead of turning the other cheek!

6.) Satan represents responcibility to the responcible, instead of concern for the psychic vampires!

7.) Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development" has become the most vicous animal of all!

8.) Satan represent all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!

9.) Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!

a quote from the Satanic Bible written by Anton LaVey...

"Anyone who thinks of satan as evil should consider all the men, women, children, and animals who have died because it was "Gods will".

Also something to think about, if Christians are so rigtheous and god fearing ones who should be following the ten commandments and what not, why do they make up over 64% of the prison population in the U.S.?
These are the most ignorant, idiotic,even funny statements to be written by a satanist, My question is what mental incompetent, disillussioned, moron would write this or even beleive such stupidity?(unbeleivable). You know this why I wish you satanist would get what you deserve from the real God Jesus. But unfortunately it's not up to me what God should do with you idiots, What you disillussional freaks fail to realize is that it's also "Gods will" that he died for your sins, "Gods will"that you live another day. Also try to get your facts straight, Christians don't need to follow the ten commandments. that is why Jesus died for our sins we trust on him not on the "ten commandments". It wasn't satan that died for your sins it was Jesus Christ so think about that for a while.

Also try to get your facts straight, Christians don't need to follow the ten commandments. that is why Jesus died for our sins we trust on him not on the "ten commandments".

I haven't weighed in on this debate too much, and I'm not a Christian, per se, but I wanted to emphasize that what ReneV is saying here is absolutely true. The Christian doctrine as it relates to the Ten Commandments, in a nutshell, is that by our nature human beings can't obey the Ten Commandments because we are sinful creatures (going back to Adam and Eve and the apple, etc.). The point then is that we are saved be Jesus's grace that we receive by proxy because he was crucified and rose from the dead.

Like I said, I'm not a Christian. But that's the way the religion works. It's about faith and forgiveness, not obeying specific rules. Sad to say a lot of people in the Christian community have forgotten this (Pat Robertson's a good example).

These are the most ignorant, idiotic,even funny statements to be written by a satanist, My question is what mental incompetent, disillussioned, moron would write this or even beleive such stupidity?(unbeleivable). You know this why I wish you satanist would get what you deserve from the real God Jesus. But unfortunately it's not up to me what God should do with you idiots, What you disillussional freaks fail to realize is that it's also "Gods will" that he died for your sins, "Gods will"that you live another day. Also try to get your facts straight, Christians don't need to follow the ten commandments. that is why Jesus died for our sins we trust on him not on the "ten commandments". It wasn't satan that died for your sins it was Jesus Christ so think about that for a while.

He didnt say he was a Satanist.

Just thought id point that out.

I haven't weighed in on this debate too much, and I'm not a Christian, per se, but I wanted to emphasize that what ReneV is saying here is absolutely true. The Christian doctrine as it relates to the Ten Commandments, in a nutshell, is that by our nature human beings can't obey the Ten Commandments because we are sinful creatures (going back to Adam and Eve and the apple, etc.). The point then is that we are saved be Jesus's grace that we receive by proxy because he was crucified and rose from the dead.

Like I said, I'm not a Christian. But that's the way the religion works. It's about faith and forgiveness, not obeying specific rules. Sad to say a lot of people in the Christian community have forgotten this (Pat Robertson's a good example).

This is confusing but interesting.

So are we all saved because Jesus died and rose from the dead?

I always thought that Jesus rose from the dead to prove he was the son of God, and thereby proving that we must not sin i.e. obey the 10 commandments?

Thats just the way i always thought of it.

The whole thing about the "wages of sin is death..."

This is confusing but interesting.

So are we all saved because Jesus died and rose from the dead?

I always thought that Jesus rose from the dead to prove he was the son of God, and thereby proving that we must not sin i.e. obey the 10 commandments?

Thats just the way i always thought of it.

The whole thing about the "wages of sin is death..."

Ah, but then if you repent on your deathbead than your sin is erased, right? :cool:

Different denominations have varying interpretations of all this. But, yes, as far as I know, the basics of Christianity are that a) People are sinful by nature and b) Through Jesus we are saved despite this. The catch, though, is that you have to have faith in Jesus in order for him to save you.

The problem is of course that this makes it sound like we can do whatever the hell we want on Earth and it don't matter one bit as long as we have "faith". The Catholics dealt with this by instituting a system of rules and rituals that you had to follow in order to demonstrate your faith. The Lutherans said all these rules were bull****, and that all you needed to do was believe in Jesus and you'd be okay. Most denominations seem to fall somewhere in between these two ideas. But it's still sort of an unresolved problem.

Good ol' Catholicism!

I cant wait to repent on my death bed.




I guess the interesting part is when people say they are Christians but have exactly the same "sinful" lifestyle as any other person.

I alwats find it bizarre that SOME christians are in no way trying to be Christ-like or follow his example (helping others, going fishing etc), which surley is kinda blasphamous.

Anyway, im rambling like a drunken atheist.

I guess the interesting part is when people say they are Christians but have exactly the same "sinful" lifestyle as any other person.

I alwats find it bizarre that SOME christians are in no way trying to be Christ-like or follow his example (helping others, going fishing etc), which surley is kinda blasphamous.

Anyway, im rambling like a drunken atheist.

Yeah, I think as long as you're trying to lead a good life you're all right. But of course most people don't even try.

Yeah, I think as long as you're trying to lead a good life you're all right. But of course most people don't even try.

Im leading a good life but im destined for hell because i only worship women in thigh high boots.

That always irritates me.


The hell thing...not the PVC.

i wish i could part the ocean

These are the most ignorant, idiotic,even funny statements to be written by a satanist, My question is what mental incompetent, disillussioned, moron would write this or even beleive such stupidity?(unbeleivable).

Well you are entitled to your opinion, I dont think that all those things are stupid or idiotic, I do question some though. Anton LaVey wrote the Satanic Bible and was the founder of the first Satanic Church, if I recall in San Fransisco. I also wouldn't call Anton LaVey incompetent or any of the other adjectives you used.

You know this why I wish you satanist would get what you deserve from the real God Jesus.

Well I am not a satanist, I am agnostic. Try not assuming things. Also Jesus is not god, get your facts straight.

But unfortunately it's not up to me what God should do with you idiots, What you disillussional freaks fail to realize is that it's also "Gods will" that he died for your sins, "Gods will"that you live another day.

isnt there something in the bible about casting the first stone ect? anyways, I dont recall god dieing for anyones sins, are you confused again? and as far as gods will that I live another day...well yeah whatever.

Also try to get your facts straight, Christians don't need to follow the ten commandments. that is why Jesus died for our sins we trust on him not on the "ten commandments". It wasn't satan that died for your sins it was Jesus Christ so think about that for a while.

Christians don't need to follow the Ten Commandments? Well that must be the most ignorant and dumbest thing you have stated, funny thing is that most cristians dont know **** about their own religion, the ten commandments are there for you to follow no matter what. So I guess its ok for Christians to just murder anyone they want? And in all actuallity I take responcibility for my own actions I do not need any mythical figure to do so for me, why don't you think about that for a bit.

Well you are entitled to your opinion, I dont think that all those things are stupid or idiotic, I do question some though. Anton LaVey wrote the Satanic Bible and was the founder of the first Satanic Church, if I recall in San Fransisco. I also wouldn't call Anton LaVey incompetent or any of the other adjectives you used.



Well I am not a satanist, I am agnostic. Try not assuming things. Also Jesus is not god, get your facts straight.



isnt there something in the bible about casting the first stone ect? anyways, I dont recall god dieing for anyones sins, are you confused again? and as far as gods will that I live another day...well yeah whatever.



Christians don't need to follow the Ten Commandments? Well that must be the most ignorant and dumbest thing you have stated, funny thing is that most cristians dont know **** about their own religion, the ten commandments are there for you to follow no matter what. So I guess its ok for Christians to just murder anyone they want? And in all actuallity I take responcibility for my own actions I do not need any mythical figure to do so for me, why don't you think about that for a bit.
You just said "try not assuming things,also Jesus is not God get your facts straight?" According to the bible my facts are straight Jesus is God.You on the other hand is the one assuming things with saying "jesus is not god" That's just your assumption just because you refuse to believe it.but it still doesn't change the fact that Jesus is God. The one that is very confuse is you were you stated "I don't recall god dieing for our sins" It's basically all over the bible with even the most popular verse John 3:16. And you can't have it any clearer in 1 Corinthians 15:3"For I delivered unto you first of all that wish I also recieved, How that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures..
But you couldn't understand this being so confused that you can't understand a more clearer verse.But it's ok I understand, In your unregenerated dead state you have not one clue of what the scriptures are saying. The most funny thing is that in your pathetic ignorance you try to quote from them not knowing what they are actually saying. I'll make it more simple for you in Galations 2:16 says "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law(ten commandments), But by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, AND NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW(TEN COMMANDMENTS)shall NO flesh(us)be justified./also Romans 3:19-20,/ Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life IN CHRIST JESUS hath made ME FREE from the law of sin(ten commandments)and death. And to your last assumption(hypocracy by the way,accusing me of this then your assuming things) No it's not ok for christians to just murder anyone they want or to do whatever they want. A real christian knows this. even the bible says this in Romans 6:1-2(speaking to christians) "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" We will see how much of a "mythical figure" Jesus is the day that you die. Your own words of "I don't need and I take responsibility for my own actions"(that you will I promise you that.)these words will be brought up before you and will condemn yourself. Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give an account thereof in the day of judgement. That peek-a-boo I don't see you game that your playing with God will not make him go away, The "all is well there is no hell" attitude will not help either. You can try to rationalize it all you want with all kinds of philosophy, You can close your eyes to this truth all you want but it will not go away. Your still headed for a judgement. And it won't be satan on the throne as your judge,it will be Jesus Christ. And guess were you are headed, In your confusion if you don't know I will just tell you this much, your in for a big surprise. It's Jesus way and there is no highway!

I am sorry if any find the post offenceive it is not the intent, just expressing my views concerning this.

You just said "try not assuming things,also Jesus is not God get your facts straight?" According to the bible my facts are straight Jesus is God.You on the other hand is the one assuming things with saying "jesus is not god" That's just your assumption just because you refuse to believe it.but it still doesn't change the fact that Jesus is God. The one that is very confuse is you were you stated


John 14:28
You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you ' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
Matthew 27:46
About the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "ELI, ELI, LAMA SABACHTHANI?" that is, "MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?"

hmm I think that pretty much sums up that Jesus is not god.

"I don't recall god dieing for our sins" It's basically all over the bible with even the most popular verse John 3:16. And you can't have it any clearer in 1 Corinthians 15:3"For I delivered unto you first of all that wish I also recieved, How that CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS according to the scriptures..
But you couldn't understand this being so confused that you can't understand a more clearer verse.

as I said God did not die for our sins, it was Jesus who are not one in the same.

But it's ok I understand, In your unregenerated dead state you have not one clue of what the scriptures are saying.

uh yeah ok.

The most funny thing is that in your pathetic ignorance you try to quote from them not knowing what they are actually saying. I'll make it more simple for you in Galations 2:16 says "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law(ten commandments), But by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, AND NOT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW(TEN COMMANDMENTS)shall NO flesh(us)be justified./also Romans 3:19-20,/ Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life IN CHRIST JESUS hath made ME FREE from the law of sin(ten commandments)and death.

Mark 10:17-19
As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. "You know the commandments, 'DO NOT MURDER, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, DO NOT STEAL, DO NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS, Do not defraud, HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER.'"

Mathew 5:17-19
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven

gee there Jesus is saying to follow the Ten Commandments as well as stateing he isn't god.

Some other wonderful things having to do with god and Jesus...

Rape:
Numbers 31:17-18
Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.

Zechariah 14:1-2
Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.

Slavery:
Exodus 21:7
If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.

Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have--you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another.

Exodus 21:2-6
21:2-6If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ

1 Timothy 6:1-2
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.


Luke 12:47-48
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given."

Murders:
To many to go into, just remember god is a jealous and wrathful god, all natural disaters are his vengence as well as the wars faught in gods name.

To me god is nothing but a dictatoral tyrant who feeds and forces worship of him via fear *ETERNAL DAMNATION* well piss off I have no need to follow a god or anyone else such as that. Main reason we stopped Hitler from trying to essentially rule the world, by the way Hitler was a Christian to. The Bible has way to many contradictions in it for any intelligent being to be able to base "faith" upon it, it is nothing more than a sad excuse of a crutch for those that are to weak to stand on their own and for those that do not wish to take responcibility unto themselves.

thats the point. im a catholic but didnt believe jesus is god. coz he himself doesnt says he is god.

I was raised Christian but follow no religion now.........
im the same thing, but i look to god for comfort in times of trouble, nothing else.

sorta like a backup kinda thing...

Praise be to Allah

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that's my religion!

I do not have any crutches. :cool: