View Full Version : 2005 IBHOF Inductees....


LuKahnLi
01-06-2005, 06:17 PM
2005 IBHOF inductees!
Two-time featherweight champion Bobby Chacon, two-time junior welterweight champion Duilio Loi, featherweight champion Barry McGuigan, and junior middleweight champion Terry Norris will be named to the Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, NY. Non-boxers included matchmaker Don Fraser and writer Bert Sugar. Posthumous honorees included featherweight champion Eugene Criqui, bantamweightweight champions Joe Lynch and Charles "Bud" Taylor, middleweight champion Marcel Thil and manager Bill Cayton. The induction ceremony is June 12.
Thursday, January 6 2005-*********.com

I must say, I have no problem with anybody from that group....

Though A few glaring omissions have occured on their part the last two inductions. Michael Carbajal and Chiquita Gonzalez. Both should be eligible by now.

BoxingPrincess
01-06-2005, 06:24 PM
DAMN!!! now you beat me to it on here!!! punk ass *****! :mad:

but anyways...yay Terry! yay Bert! i'm gonna give them both a big hug when i see them :)

marvdave
01-06-2005, 06:29 PM
Terry Norris?

I don't see that, but I guess he is as deserving as others I have seen put in. Kind of like the Basketball Hall of fame, everyone gets in. ;)

BoxingPrincess
01-06-2005, 06:31 PM
Terry Norris?

I don't see that, but I guess he is as deserving as others I have seen put in. Kind of like the Basketball Hall of fame, everyone gets in. ;)
you did not just diss my Terry like that!!! :mad:

marvdave
01-06-2005, 06:41 PM
you did not just diss my Terry like that!!! :mad:

oh no..bad karma coming?

not a diss, I like Terry Norris. I just feel sometimes Hall of Fames put too many people in. To me Hall of Fame is Joe Louis,Ali,Duran,etc.. If Norris gets in, kind of lowers the bar. Norris had nice career, but I don't think he is a Legend.

Chups
01-06-2005, 06:45 PM
Where's Ceferino Garcia, inventor of the bolo punch? huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu :( :( :(

LuKahnLi
01-06-2005, 06:46 PM
Terry Norris?

I don't see that, but I guess he is as deserving as others I have seen put in. Kind of like the Basketball Hall of fame, everyone gets in. ;)

Terry Norris is to 154 what Wilfredo Gomez was to 122.

LuKahnLi
01-06-2005, 06:50 PM
Seriously, at some point held two or three of the major titles at 154 for most of his career. During this time he beat 13 guys who at one point were titlists themselves.

There wasn't a serious challenge at 154 he did not beat.

BoxingPrincess
01-06-2005, 06:53 PM
oh no..bad karma coming?

not a diss, I like Terry Norris. I just feel sometimes Hall of Fames put too many people in. To me Hall of Fame is Joe Louis,Ali,Duran,etc.. If Norris gets in, kind of lowers the bar. Norris had nice career, but I don't think he is a Legend.
nope...says "you must spread karma around before giving to marvdave again" :p

marvdave
01-06-2005, 07:20 PM
Seriously, at some point held two or three of the major titles at 154 for most of his career. During this time he beat 13 guys who at one point were titlists themselves.

There wasn't a serious challenge at 154 he did not beat.

I don't feel super strongly on this, so you won't get too much of a fight out of me but who did he beat?

His talent was great for sure, but that damn chin was bad. I know he beat up a blown up shot Meldrick Taylor,Mugabi post Hagler,Blocker and others. Almost forgot the beating he put on SRL. Those were all victories over shells of there former selves.

The ones I keep remembering are Julian Jackson and Simon Brown. Refresh my memory on some of those opponents. I'm not saying he wasn't a damn good fighter, just seems Hall of Fame doesn't fit with his name. I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time :D

LuKahnLi
01-06-2005, 07:31 PM
I don't feel super strongly on this, so you won't get too much of a fight out of me but who did he beat?

His talent was great for sure, but that damn chin was bad. I know he beat up a blown up shot Meldrick Taylor,Mugabi post Hagler,Blocker and others. Almost forgot the beating he put on SRL. Those were all victories over shells of there former selves.

The ones I keep remembering are Julian Jackson and Simon Brown. Refresh my memory on some of those opponents. I'm not saying he wasn't a damn good fighter, just seems Hall of Fame doesn't fit with his name. I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time :D

He beat Brown in the Return. Also beat Vincent Pettaway who later KO'd Brown. He beat Donald Curry, Jorge Castro, Quincy Taylor, Maurice Blocker was NOT shot at all. You must be thinking of the Blocker that Tito KO'd. ****, Blocker had just won a title when Norris beat him. Same is true for Mugabi. Mugabi HELD the WBC 154 lb title when Norris beat him. Mugabi KO'd the guy who had that title in 1 round.

marvdave
01-06-2005, 07:36 PM
He beat Brown in the Return. Also beat Vincent Pettaway who later KO'd Brown. He beat Donald Curry, Jorge Castro, Quincy Taylor, Maurice Blocker was NOT shot at all. You must be thinking of the Blocker that Tito KO'd. ****, Blocker had just won a title when Norris beat him. Same is true for Mugabi. Mugabi HELD the WBC 154 lb title when Norris beat him. Mugabi KO'd the guy who had that title in 1 round.

your correct on Blocker, I didn't mean to catogorize him with the others. Curry was definitely shot as was Mugabi. I think Mugabi beat Rene Jaquot for the Title. Mugabi was pitiful v Norris and basically gave up..like he did in most of his fights after Hagler. Duane Thomas beat the crap out of The Beast as well. Beating Castro and Rettaway doesn't exactly excite me.

I will say Norris had tremendous talent and I'm happy for my So.Cal Homey but I'm still not convinced.

THRILLAinmanila
01-07-2005, 08:07 PM
The legendary boxing promoter Lope "Papa" Sarreal, the grand-old man of Philippine boxing who was a promoter responsible for at least 20 world boxing champions including the Great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde, and the Thai Galaxy brothers Khaosai and Khaokor will be posthumously inducted into the IBHOF in Canastota. He died at the age of 90 in 1995.

He is just the 3rd Filipino to be inducted there, after Flash Elorde and Pancho Villa . MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS! :)

JOM'S
01-08-2005, 10:42 AM
Where's Ceferino Garcia, inventor of the bolo punch? huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu :( :( :(

that's one thing wrong with this hall of fame, they don't recognize greats from ASIA, how many Asian Fighters are in the IBHOF, last count it was four and I am not a boxing history buff but i bet there are more than 4 GREAT ASIAN FIGHTERS ...

JOM'S
01-08-2005, 10:48 AM
The legendary boxing promoter Lope "Papa" Sarreal, the grand-old man of Philippine boxing who was a promoter responsible for at least 20 world boxing champions including the Great Gabriel "Flash" Elorde, and the Thai Galaxy brothers Khaosai and Khaokor will be posthumously inducted into the IBHOF in Canastota. He died at the age of 90 in 1995.

He is just the 3rd Filipino to be inducted there, after Flash Elorde and Pancho Villa . MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS! :)

thats good news that they recognize Papa Sarreal but still they ignore Ceferino Garcia...

tino
01-08-2005, 10:51 AM
i hope they wont ask norris for a speach ...

marvdave
01-08-2005, 03:21 PM
i hope they wont ask norris for a speach ...


Tommy Hearns will be translating for him

whdempsey
01-08-2005, 06:31 PM
I love Barry, and I suppose that it's fair to induct him based on his win over Pedroza, but I'm not entirely convinced that he belongs there.

wmute
01-08-2005, 07:53 PM
Duilio Loi... it was about time

115(25)-3-8

grabbed his 140 title from carlos ortiz

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/loi.htm

kid_lefty
01-08-2005, 11:43 PM
Wow this thread is almost done it's second page and still no words for Bobby Chacon? I suppose his credentials are worthy of scrutiny as well. No doubt he was one of the most exciting fighters in his day, but he's got some big losses and was nowhere near a complete enough fighter to be considered an automatic HOFer. He was in some of the best action fights of the 70's though, and I guess that is enough.