Some people do it some dont i for one do

ya i lift 6 days a week,light weight lot of reps

sweet jesus, yes I lift before and after boxing

random guy why sweet jesus??

just light weights, just enoug to tone up and strengten a lilttle bit, nothing too much because some people say it makes you loose some speed

No, I don't...

I don't believe in weights for boxing, many people that never boxed think boxing is all about power, but power comes from timing, accuracy, technique, speed, etc.

If you noticed, none of the all time greats did weights..

No, I don't...

I don't believe in weights for boxing, many people that never boxed think boxing is all about power, but power comes from timing, accuracy, technique, speed, etc.

If you noticed, none of the all time greats did weights..

well, atleast few of them did.

foreman did,holyfield did a lot.

maybe more but those are the only ones that comes to my mind.

oohh and btw greatest bigdozer wont like this

my coatch told me tht lifting tightens the muscle reducing your speed for punching so i just do some light reps really fast

i lift 3 times a week, nothin too instense

i lift 3 times a week, nothin too instense
I lift 5 times a week on different muscle groups for football but I train for boxing anymore so my comment is isn't relevant. But In my opinion when I did train I lifted and I believe if it is done right it can be benificial.

I lift 4 days out of the week Like Sicilian I don't Box anymore though I lift because of Football. you have to work out the right muscle areas in your body, to stay fast,& keep your speed.

well, atleast few of them did.

foreman did,holyfield did a lot.

maybe more but those are the only ones that comes to my mind.

oohh and btw greatest bigdozer wont like this
Yeah, true...

My bad, well of course some did, but I meant hardly..
It can help and stuff, but it all depends..

edit: most of the great boxers that did weights are heavyweights, it's ok to do weights at heavyweight, but at the lighter weights it's rare to find a great fighter that did weights..


Here are some boxers that never did weights

Ali, Louis, Frazier, Dempsey, Hearns!!!, McLellan!!!, Leonard, Hagler, Robinson, Duran, Chavez, Marciano, and basically all the old timers...

Also, Corrales does weights too..

70% or your max for 10 sets of 3 on core lifts...try and be explosive... High reps kills speed! Think about this...can a longdistane runner do spints fast?? the answer is no

go to google and type in demetrius andrade. that guy lifts weights and he is the #1 guy for the olympic team and he is only 17

nazfan's coach is correct. weightlifting will tighten the muscles, create less range of movement, impede natural movement(since it's isolation and not unification of muscle groups) most of the time that is, and can create bad habits in a fight - such as having tense muscles which impede the flow and possible output of your punch.

staying in shape is great, but remember you're a fighter, not a weightlifter or competing in a triathlon.

nazfan, i believe your coach might be referring to lessining the space that your joints have to work with. you might have a smart coach, congrats!

nazfan's coach is correct. weightlifting will tighten the muscles, create less range of movement, impede natural movement(since it's isolation and not unification of muscle groups) most of the time that is, and can create bad habits in a fight - such as having tense muscles which impede the flow and possible output of your punch.

staying in shape is great, but remember you're a fighter, not a weightlifter or competing in a triathlon.

nazfan, i believe your coach might be referring to lessining the space that your joints have to work with. you might have a smart coach, congrats!
yeah but i dont think nazfan could lift weights at 5'8 112lbs

LOL! nice kayo.

but he's about as tall as me. the thing is, he weighs about 50 pounds less.

a possible advantage he has, however, is that he is somewhat tall for only weighing 112 lbs.

but then again, my trainer/teacher is about 5'7" and guessing his weight is about 130 or so. but he hits just like a truck ran over you. so, really, it's not how much you weigh, but how much of your weight can you use effectively and efficiently.

by the way, i voted for using weights sometimes. you always need to stay in shape, just don't overdo it, otherwise you're screwed. you might be heavy, but you'll be slow and more likely to telegraph punches, pick up bad habits, and lose flexibility(especially if you don't do a lot of warm-ups and stretching.)

i'd say, if you're going to remember one thing 'bout weight training, make sure it's functional and works with what you are doing. not meaning weightlifting for looks - which is mostly unfunctional unless you are entering a weight lifting comp.

some stuff i'd recommend, although i haven't tried these YET, and it's hard to recommend things i haven't tried yet, i have heard nothing but good results from working with chinese stone locks and russian kettle bells(tszyu endorses kettle bells by the way.) they both are fairly the same, but from what i've heard they are better than working with dumbells.

just trying to help out fellow fighters.

LOL! nice kayo.

but he's about as tall as me. the thing is, he weighs about 50 pounds less.

a possible advantage he has, however, is that he is somewhat tall for only weighing 112 lbs.

but then again, my trainer/teacher is about 5'7" and guessing his weight is about 130 or so. but he hits just like a truck ran over you. so, really, it's not how much you weigh, but how much of your weight can you use effectively and efficiently.
thats true it all kind of depends on wether you kno how to use your muscle. Like weight lifting for me has been beneficial i've become faster stronger i look better naked. The only time i would think it would slow you down is if you pack on to much muscle for your frame size

good point kayo, about having too much muscle mass for your frame size.

from what i know you would want to use "functional" weight work. which means working with weights in a way that can be easily adapted to suite your needs(in this case it is boxing). a good thorough study of kinesiology would benefit you as well.

we(me and my trainer) really never discuss weight lifting much since a lot of my work involves the postural muscles, ligaments, and tendons as well as free sparring and in my spare time bare-knuckle boxing and also using sparring weight or lighter weight gloves when we add in head contact.

one thing that you seem to know is not to pack on too much muscle mass. i knew a guy who held an olympic record for(forgot the name of the particular lift)weightlifting for about a year. all i remember was that he lifted up 700+ pounds back in the 1970's and he's where i got a few weightlifting techniques from. now-a-days, he's fat and doesn't look anything like an athlete. the moral is, the more you got on ya, the harder it is to stay in shape later in life and the harder it is for your body to consume the amount of oxygen necessary that enables the muscles to work efficiently.

but, in all sincerity, relaxation and efficientcy is the best way to get "quick hands". try slow bag work - meaning not punching full or even half power. try getting your technique done with ease(efficientcy). relax your shoulders, torso, legs, and everything. just relax and punch and make sure to coordinate from the ground up. i garauntee an increase in speed if you do it right.

"relaxation and efficientcy is the best way to get "quick hands". try slow bag work - meaning not punching full or even half power. try getting your technique done with ease(efficientcy). relax your shoulders, torso, legs, and everything. just relax and punch and make sure to coordinate from the ground up. i garauntee an increase in speed if you do it right."

I remember vacationing to Thailand w/ my coach and other gym mates many moons ago... Slow bag work and slow drills is how they train in Thailand, and it's just something to watch when they put it together in the ring... All that "slow work" translates into explosiveness, I also noticed that the fighters there are appear more fluid due to this "slow drills". In alot of American boxing & Muay Thai gyms the opposite is what is preached they interpret it as being lazy. I think a good mix is the right way.

[QUOTE=j]nazfan's coach is correct. weightlifting will tighten the muscles, create less range of movement, impede natural movement(since it's isolation and not unification of muscle groups) most of the time that is, and can create bad habits in a fight - such as having tense muscles which impede the flow and possible output of your punch.

thats why your always encouraged to lift explosivly then do plyometrics after, So your muscles are trained to push out explosivly with speed. Like a sprinter out the blocks. They are packed with muscle mass and you cant call them slow! becos they power lift explosivly. but to stop bad habits you have to concentrate on technique first. Ive boxed 5 yrs as an amateur b4 i started complex strength training.

because theres no fites around from dec till about mid feb, im concentrating on strength training more and only goin to the gym bout once or twice a week. then once fights come up back to full time at the gym but only stronger.

Nazfan how long do you plan to stay at 106? at 5ft8