View Full Version : The Untold Stories of Cus'Dmatto


joeboxer
12-16-2005, 02:27 PM
A friend of mine Alexandera who is up in the Catskillz is a granddaughter of Cus'D. She is in possesion of his diary or journal, and a lot of other stories and things about Cus.

They the Dmatto family has been trying to get them printed for years but publishers arn't really interested because Cus journal is not long enough to make a real book, and it is not really well written.

I got a chance to read them though, and would be glad to tell you about some of the things he said about mike, and training regimins and some personal **** if anyone is interested.

I will put a little bit up and just let me know if you want more.

leff
12-16-2005, 02:31 PM
A friend of mine Alexandera who is up in the Catskillz is a granddaughter of Cus'D. She is in possesion of his diary or journal, and a lot of other stories and things about Cus.

They the Dmatto family has been trying to get them printed for years but publishers arn't really interested because Cus journal is not long enough to make a real book, and it is not really well written.

I got a chance to read them though, and would be glad to tell you about some of the things he said about mike, and training regimins and some personal **** if anyone is interested.

I will put a little bit up and just let me know if you want more.


for the love off god YES YES YES

joeboxer
12-16-2005, 02:32 PM
Sports Illistrated once asked Cus who the meanest boxer he ever met or worked with was........

The answer was not Mike Tyson. Cus actually said Mike wouldn't even be in the top ten. He thought that Teddy Atlas was meaner than Mike, and Teddy was a *****.

The meanest boxer hands down, no contest, absolutly, was Floyd Patterson.

He said he would not be suprised to find out if Floyd killed somebody back in the day. Cus said that he remembered a time when Floyd was sparring somebody and hit them really hard in the stomach, the guy bent over and threw up, Floyd paused for a second then punched the guy in the back of the head. He knocked him out so that he fell right into the pile of his own vomit.

That sparring partner never came back by the way.


And Sports Illistrated didn't publish this interview because Cus refused to say that Mike was the meanest boxer ever.

Baddest man on da planet
12-16-2005, 04:40 PM
Yo is there any other stories

Dempsey 1919
12-16-2005, 04:47 PM
Sports Illistrated once asked Cus who the meanest boxer he ever met or worked with was........

The answer was not Mike Tyson. Cus actually said Mike wouldn't even be in the top ten. He thought that Teddy Atlas was meaner than Mike, and Teddy was a *****.

The meanest boxer hands down, no contest, absolutly, was Floyd Patterson.

He said he would not be suprised to find out if Floyd killed somebody back in the day. Cus said that he remembered a time when Floyd was sparring somebody and hit them really hard in the stomach, the guy bent over and threw up, Floyd paused for a second then punched the guy in the back of the head. He knocked him out so that he fell right into the pile of his own vomit.

That sparring partner never came back by the way.


And Sports Illistrated didn't publish this interview because Cus refused to say that Mike was the meanest boxer ever.

wow, that patterson story is hard to believe.

Brassangel
12-16-2005, 04:52 PM
That is hard to believe. Especially since Floyd was considered a "Gentleman's Champion" by the world. Similar to Tyson, however, Patterson grew up on the streets and probably had a rough background. This is just a surprising story seeing as how Floyd spoke often of being terrified in the ring.

Cus was known for working with ruffians. :boxing:

Cockyb
12-16-2005, 04:57 PM
go on man, post sum more stories, cos if this is al real and from cus's mouth this stuf is propa worth readin!

safe

joeboxer
12-16-2005, 10:03 PM
Wow. I didn't know if anyone would like it.


Here is a kind of silly one. I am going to write it like Cus did, but so you know, this is from memory.


There is absolutly nothing to do in the Catskillzs. That's the point. There arn't no ladies up there. There arn't no drugs. There arn't no TV to watch or alchohol.

For fun guys would do pushups, or read the bible. Most of guys did pushups.

You have to make your own fun up in the Catskillz, that was something Mike Tyson got good at. Mike used to drink a couple of glasses of milk first thing in the morning before he went running. I told him not to do that because milk will clog your lungs.

He didn't believe me. We all got to talkin bout it and Rooney says to Mike "Lactose is allergic to ya, thats why you can't have so much of it" Mike said that he could drink a gallon if we let him. Rooney said that no one could drink a gallon of milk in an hour without throwing up, he said it was physically impossible.

Well a couple of days later I come downstairs, and Mike, Rooney, Tom and a couple of the other guys all have a gallon of milk in front of them. They are doing some sort of contest, trying to see who can get closest to drinking a gallon of milk in an hour without throwing up or going piss.

I was pissed cause that was all our milk for the whole week. Well I sat down and watched their little contest. About half way through everybody had thrown up or quit except for Mike and Tom.

It came down to the last seconds of the hour and Mike had two big chugs left, Tom was all finished just trying to keep it down. Mike pounds the milk at the last second, and says "Hey looks like we both win" then gets a look on his face all funny like, runs outside and throws up milk everywhere.

We all said "way to go Tom, you win" but he just sat there not saying anything.

"No i don't he finally said" and as he stood up we saw a big spot on his pants, where he had pissed himself. Nobody laughed for some reason, we all just felt real bad for him.


I was still mad that these kids drank all my milk for the week, so I made them eat Cheerios every morning, dry. They never played that game again.

Skydog
12-17-2005, 12:45 AM
Sports Illistrated once asked Cus who the meanest boxer he ever met or worked with was........

The answer was not Mike Tyson. Cus actually said Mike wouldn't even be in the top ten. He thought that Teddy Atlas was meaner than Mike, and Teddy was a *****.

The meanest boxer hands down, no contest, absolutly, was Floyd Patterson.

He said he would not be suprised to find out if Floyd killed somebody back in the day. Cus said that he remembered a time when Floyd was sparring somebody and hit them really hard in the stomach, the guy bent over and threw up, Floyd paused for a second then punched the guy in the back of the head. He knocked him out so that he fell right into the pile of his own vomit.

That sparring partner never came back by the way.


And Sports Illistrated didn't publish this interview because Cus refused to say that Mike was the meanest boxer ever.

Man, that is great. I always got the impression that Patterson was one of the nicest, gentlest men to hold the heavyweight title. And the fact that he thought Tyson was a ***** just scares me. Who the hell out there can be much meaner than Mike?

Skydog
12-17-2005, 12:47 AM
That Tyson story is great. People who think that all Tyson was is a heartless, ruthless, bastard should read that and see that Mike could be a fun guy.

Dempsey 1919
12-17-2005, 01:01 AM
Wow. I didn't know if anyone would like it.


Here is a kind of silly one. I am going to write it like Cus did, but so you know, this is from memory.


There is absolutly nothing to do in the Catskillzs. That's the point. There arn't no ladies up there. There arn't no drugs. There arn't no TV to watch or alchohol.

For fun guys would do pushups, or read the bible. Most of guys did pushups.

You have to make your own fun up in the Catskillz, that was something Mike Tyson got good at. Mike used to drink a couple of glasses of milk first thing in the morning before he went running. I told him not to do that because milk will clog your lungs.

He didn't believe me. We all got to talkin bout it and Rooney says to Mike "Lactose is allergic to ya, thats why you can't have so much of it" Mike said that he could drink a gallon if we let him. Rooney said that no one could drink a gallon of milk in an hour without throwing up, he said it was physically impossible.

Well a couple of days later I come downstairs, and Mike, Rooney, Tom and a couple of the other guys all have a gallon of milk in front of them. They are doing some sort of contest, trying to see who can get closest to drinking a gallon of milk in an hour without throwing up or going piss.

I was pissed cause that was all our milk for the whole week. Well I sat down and watched their little contest. About half way through everybody had thrown up or quit except for Mike and Tom.

It came down to the last seconds of the hour and Mike had two big chugs left, Tom was all finished just trying to keep it down. Mike pounds the milk at the last second, and says "Hey looks like we both win" then gets a look on his face all funny like, runs outside and throws up milk everywhere.

We all said "way to go Tom, you win" but he just sat there not saying anything.

"No i don't he finally said" and as he stood up we saw a big spot on his pants, where he had pissed himself. Nobody laughed for some reason, we all just felt real bad for him.


I was still mad that these kids drank all my milk for the week, so I made them eat Cheerios every morning, dry. They never played that game again.

interesting. good karma for you!

Baddest man on da planet
12-17-2005, 07:17 AM
post some more stories joeboxer they are very interesting.

XionComrade
12-17-2005, 01:48 PM
Yeah man their great, post em all :D I really liked the second one XD

Brockton Lip
12-17-2005, 04:13 PM
Nice post :cool:.

habZ
12-17-2005, 08:07 PM
ye post some more plz, really intresting, can you get any of his 'sweat science' theories up?

XionComrade
12-18-2005, 07:58 PM
If you don't post more stories, something bad may happen to j00 O.o
lol

Pugnacious_Z
12-20-2005, 09:37 AM
ye bro, post em up man, mad stories

joeboxer
12-21-2005, 04:07 PM
Do you remember slinkie? The popular toy from the 80's and 90's that you pushed down stairs and stuff?

Well Cus used to make his fighters do the slinkie roll, between their hands, I think most of us have done this with a slinkie you just lift one hand up a little and then the other.

Well Cus used to make his fighters do this but with 10, 20, 30 and 50 pound bags of sand tied to their arms. It produced the effect of a mini-bicep curl.


I don't know why they did this, or if it is even a good thing to do, but I sure it was more interesting than lifting weights.

Pugnacious_Z
12-21-2005, 10:21 PM
do u remember anything else? training schedules?

Keleneki
12-22-2005, 01:23 PM
Thank you for the great stories. More please when you can.

Dempsey 1919
12-22-2005, 02:30 PM
Thank you for the great stories. More please when you can.

yes, please, post more!

marvelous_TG
12-24-2005, 11:25 AM
can you give post the training regimen of his fighters, especially tyson's.

supaduck
12-25-2005, 02:43 PM
ya you should do that, that;d be quite interesting to know.

Pugnacious_Z
12-26-2005, 12:30 AM
getiin a bit off topic now but has any1 heard of the story of tyson in jail? i read that in prison for sum reason tyson punched a man who they called Tiny Flush with a hard left hook right on the jaw and 2 witnesses said that the guys only reaction to the punch was a blink. sounds like bull**** but just wondering if any1 heard dis b4?

supaduck
12-26-2005, 06:22 PM
Yeah i've heard that. Couldn't have been one of Tyson's hardest if it's true.

Skydog
12-27-2005, 01:07 AM
Or it was just some crazy son of a ***** who had probably taken bullets to the body and/or a few smacks to the head with a nightstick.

Dempsey 1919
12-27-2005, 01:11 AM
i don't believe that. the person who said that was probably someone that tyson knocked out in the first round lol! :D

supaduck
12-27-2005, 05:47 AM
LOL! (sarcasm)

Baddest man on da planet
12-27-2005, 05:55 PM
why hasnt this guy joeboxer put any more good stories up

Cockyb
12-27-2005, 05:58 PM
it might take him some time to make sum stories up! lol

Pugnacious_Z
12-27-2005, 09:51 PM
loooooololol

supaduck
12-28-2005, 09:07 AM
ROFLMAO!!!!!!1111oneoneone

opethdrums
12-28-2005, 03:20 PM
wtf we want your entire memory bank of stories NOW

supaduck
01-25-2006, 12:15 PM
*bump*

post more of this stuff, we wanna know more.

Dempsey 1919
01-25-2006, 12:50 PM
*bump*

post more of this stuff, we wanna know more.

yeah, post more!

Yogi
01-25-2006, 05:07 PM
getiin a bit off topic now but has any1 heard of the story of tyson in jail? i read that in prison for sum reason tyson punched a man who they called Tiny Flush with a hard left hook right on the jaw and 2 witnesses said that the guys only reaction to the punch was a blink. sounds like bull**** but just wondering if any1 heard dis b4?

That guy you're talking about there was a "notorious gang leader" and the source I have of the story says Tyson "knocked him flat with one punch".

That was said to be the only fist fight Tyson had in prison and the disagreement resulted because Tyson was handing out cigarettes, food, etc, to other inmates as Christmas gifts (it was Mike's last Christmas in there). The gang leader took exception to Mike handing out that stuff, especially the cigarettes, because he was normally largely responsilbe for selling those thing...The gang member was losing money, he thought, and started **** with Tyson because of it. After Tyson punched the guy there apparently was quite the brawl between the gang and those supporting Tyson.

Mike was cleared of any wrong doing in regards to that incident after a bunch of inmates came forward and told the real story.

RockyMarcianofan00
01-25-2006, 05:20 PM
yea those stories were good
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Yogi
01-25-2006, 05:37 PM
Here's a untold (or unknown) story about Cus, courtesy of his good friend of thirty years & HOF'er Reg Gutteridge;

"The oddball manager was also a mass of contradictions because, for all his fierce criticisms of the crooks in boxing, it was well known in the fight game that he kept the company of many shady characters, and among his closest confidants were known Mafia bosses and underworld heavies."

supaduck
01-28-2006, 05:09 PM
I just wanna hear more of Cus's old stories. This could be the only chance anyone ever has.

Kid Achilles
01-28-2006, 05:21 PM
Yeah what's up with Joeboxer? Is he not around anymore?

supaduck
01-28-2006, 05:30 PM
He is around, he just hasn't posted back.

Cockyb
01-28-2006, 06:38 PM
sum of u mans r propa gullible!!

da guys bull****in, how obvious can it get!?

supaduck
01-28-2006, 06:41 PM
You sound like the ultimate definition of a chav, no offense.

leow
04-12-2006, 06:46 AM
sum of u mans r propa gullible!!

da guys bull****in, how obvious can it get!?

atleast its entertaining

sleazyfellow
04-12-2006, 04:36 PM
well theres one of these stories about cus meeting beau jack in miami in a hotel and beau was shining shoes, so he offered to shine cuss' shoes but cus wouldnt let him do so he insisted that beau jack get up on the chair and let him shine his shoes instead, which he did....theres a pic of it around but idk lemme see if i can find it

Cockyb
04-12-2006, 06:03 PM
so how do i sound like a chav????

and id rather sound like chav dan be taken for a fool! lol

The Raging Bull
12-15-2006, 04:32 PM
I'm glad I've started going back a few pages in this lounge because there is some interesting threads!

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