View Full Version : is shane mosley a example that lifting weights is bad?


dino
12-13-2005, 05:21 PM
if anybody has seen mosley's fights sence moving to 154 then back down to 147..hes like the stifest fighter in boxing right now..its like he cant even hold his arm out staright..i think him lifiting weights has hurt him who agrees?

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mic573
12-13-2005, 05:27 PM
I think Mosley was lifting weights like a bodybuilder instead of lifting for strength that he can actually use.

Fight_Nightx
12-13-2005, 06:42 PM
An intelligent weight training program for boxing will help the fighter greatly. Complexe exercices for strenght / speed-strenght.

jack_the_rippuh
12-13-2005, 06:44 PM
It was the roids..

Oasis_Lad
12-13-2005, 06:45 PM
Shane Mosleys A Bad Example End Of He Sucks

ottoevans
12-13-2005, 06:49 PM
he was body builder all his career. Ya gotta remember his only big win has come against Oscar

Kayo
12-13-2005, 06:53 PM
Lifting Weights doesnt make you stiff hes stiff because hes shane mosley

EXIGE
12-13-2005, 07:22 PM
Lifting Weights doesnt make you stiff hes stiff because hes shane mosley
LOL!

We will name it. "The Shane Mosley Gene for Stifness".

jack_the_rippuh
12-13-2005, 07:26 PM
It is the roids, people!

Look how stiff Vitology was with roids.

TyrantT316
12-13-2005, 07:26 PM
I think it is more so him just being a very short, short arm, and compact fighter...it is just who he is...

jack_the_rippuh
12-13-2005, 07:29 PM
Yeah, but Vitology was big and long and was as stiff as my erection.

EXIGE
12-13-2005, 07:33 PM
I think it is more so him just being a very short, short arm, and compact fighter...it is just who he is...
I think it has a lot to do with his name....

Versastyle
12-13-2005, 07:41 PM
i bet it was the steriods cause wasnt he a witness for that balco court hearing

Kayo
12-13-2005, 07:49 PM
I think it is more so him just being a very short, short arm, and compact fighter...it is just who he is...
which brings back to my first post

Lifting Weights doesnt make you stiff hes stiff because hes shane mosley

Bozo_no no
12-13-2005, 08:35 PM
Mosley shot to fame beating Oscar, but he was a world beater at 135. It was by far his most suited weight (although we never saw him at 140 beacause he skipped over that division to go after Oscar).

At 147, Mosley was very fast but not naturally a welter, nor did he posess the same pop he displayed at 135.

It would appear that Mosley has faded in the last few years, but I think the problem is that he wasn't naturally big enough to be fighting at 154.

At 135, he could throw those lightning fast thudding shots and knock guys down and out. At 147 and 154, he wasn't doing the same kind of damage, yet he continued to plant his feet and punch like he did.

He lost to some very good bigger fighters and did so taking some big shots and planting his feet and fighting them. It really gave a good idea of his chin and heart to see him fight Forrest after getting decked like that, and his 2nd loss to Winky was a stellar preformance considering what Wright did to Tito.

Shane would have been better suited to test the very rich waters at 140 after beating Oscar (imagine a fight between him and Tszyu in 2000). Instead he moved up and fought his fight agaisnt bigger fighters.

It wasn't the weights (although that has hurt him in that he can't get back down to those lower weights) and it's not that he has faded.

I think he can still be a key player at Welterweight.

(I know he's fighting Vargas at 154 but I've heard he will continue his tenure at Welterweight.)

phallus
12-13-2005, 09:38 PM
Mosley shot to fame beating Oscar, but he was a world beater at 135. It was by far his most suited weight (although we never saw him at 140 beacause he skipped over that division to go after Oscar).

At 147, Mosley was very fast but not naturally a welter, nor did he posess the same pop he displayed at 135.

It would appear that Mosley has faded in the last few years, but I think the problem is that he wasn't naturally big enough to be fighting at 154.

At 135, he could throw those lightning fast thudding shots and knock guys down and out. At 147 and 154, he wasn't doing the same kind of damage, yet he continued to plant his feet and punch like he did.

He lost to some very good bigger fighters and did so taking some big shots and planting his feet and fighting them. It really gave a good idea of his chin and heart to see him fight Forrest after getting decked like that, and his 2nd loss to Winky was a stellar preformance considering what Wright did to Tito.

Shane would have been better suited to test the very rich waters at 140 after beating Oscar (imagine a fight between him and Tszyu in 2000). Instead he moved up and fought his fight agaisnt bigger fighters.

It wasn't the weights (although that has hurt him in that he can't get back down to those lower weights) and it's not that he has faded.

I think he can still be a key player at Welterweight.

(I know he's fighting Vargas at 154 but I've heard he will continue his tenure at Welterweight.)


Mosley doesn't have much to worry about, Vargas will never be the same without "the creme"

Bozo_no no
12-13-2005, 10:10 PM
Mosley doesn't have much to worry about, Vargas will never be the same without "the creme"


I agree. I have Mosley by late TKO in this fight, or by comfortable decision.

Vargas isn't ready for this fight yet, he looked soft and off in his two return fights.

Mosley's chin is a rock, and I think his speed and accuracy wears El Feroz down.

adeelr
12-13-2005, 10:38 PM
i agree, fighter should not lift weights like body builders, it makes em slower and unagile.

Void
12-13-2005, 10:41 PM
Bozo, taking nothing away from Shane because I am a huge fan, but Vargas was severely dehydrated in his last fight he was basically ****ed since round 1. He weighed 193 at the start of camp...and yes Mosley is moving back down after this fight he said he's going to be weighing in at 150-151.

AREALFIGHTER
12-14-2005, 03:14 AM
Yeah, but Vitology was big and long and was as stiff as my erection.
don't you know viagra can lead to heart failer

dino
12-14-2005, 09:47 AM
I agree. I have Mosley by late TKO in this fight, or by comfortable decision.

Vargas isn't ready for this fight yet, he looked soft and off in his two return fights.

Mosley's chin is a rock, and I think his speed and accuracy wears El Feroz down.


vargas beat a solid middleweight in JOVAL and the 154 pound champ in castillejo...he's fought better competion the last 2 fights them mosley

drez24
12-14-2005, 09:48 AM
All you have to see is the Castillejo KD to know that Vargas isn't right. He looked surprised to see him go down and didn't look like he knew what he was doing. I say Mosley wins this pretty handily.

hollister
12-14-2005, 10:56 AM
I do think that Mosley bulked up a little too much, and weight training can stiffen you up if the wrong training regimen is used, I know. That being said, I still think Mosley is a tremendous fighter, even now. Vargas has looked very uncomfortable with his new style from what I've seen, and he isn't really suited to it. I see Mosley being able to close the gap fairly easily and take advantage of Vargas, or possibly force him into a war, which I think will win Mosley the fight by UD, if not by TKO. My two cents.

jack_the_rippuh
12-14-2005, 02:47 PM
don't you know viagra can lead to heart failer

What does that have to do with Vitology or jackology?

Bozo_no no
12-14-2005, 06:55 PM
I've got 100 Million points that says Mosley beats Vargas. You up for it?

dino
12-14-2005, 08:14 PM
i dont understand this betting stuff..how do i bet?

Bozo_no no
12-14-2005, 08:16 PM
i dont understand this betting stuff..how do i bet?

You need to have enough points (depends on how much the wager is), you note it in your sig (not mandatory) and the loser donates the points to the winner.

dino
12-14-2005, 08:28 PM
how about u donating me some points on that margarito cintron fight..when u said cintron would win and he lost..give me my points

Bozo_no no
12-14-2005, 08:31 PM
how about u donating me some points on that margarito cintron fight..when u said cintron would win and he lost..give me my points

You are a friggen idiot.

That wasn't me doofus, I had Margarito in that fight.

Kayo
12-14-2005, 09:30 PM
i agree, fighter should not lift weights like body builders, it makes em slower and unagile.
It kind of depends lifting weights can be beneficial and it can also be bad u become slow and unagile when u put on too much muscle for your frame size. I lift weights religiously and im 5'10 154lbs and im faster then alot of people at 147.