THE KINGDOM'S HEAVYWEIGHTS (source: maxboxing)

Don't believe for one second that King wasn't amused by the paltry pay-per-view numbers of Vitali Klitschko, whose bout against Danny Williams tallied around 120,000 buys.

Despite HBO's constant promoting, the bottom line is, Klitschko needs a dance partner to be a success at the box office. Based on his numbers, he's really not that much more marketable than guys like Chris Byrd and Hasim Rahman. In fact, he may need them in the future.

The public is not buying Klitschko, at the moment, as THE clear, undisputed heavyweight champion.

"Absolutely, because he's in the pot with all of them," said King, who happens to promote Byrd and Rahman, along with John Ruiz and Lamon Brewster. "He's no more meaningful than them. They were selling him as the 'Great White Hope'. They weren't saying 'Great White Hope' but that's what every indication was and they didn't know how to deal with it.

"Because on my worst day, if I was promoting Vitali Klitschko, I do more than 120,000 buys. But the idea is that he didn't and so he's right in there with the rest of the guys in the group and all the rest of the guys fighting."

But the question is, will his guys ever get a crack at the current WBC titlist, tournament or otherwise?

"Yes," stated King, unequivocally. "In my opinion, I think that Hasim Rahman will knock out Vitali Klitschko and that's why I'm working urgently and feverishly with Shelly Finkel (who advises Klitschko) and everyone else to give him his day in the ring. If he don't, I'll be really shocked and dismayed if he doesn't. However, if he should win, I got all the titles and I will certainly do a tournament and in the meantime I will try to work something out with Klitschko now that I know he's free of Universum.

"So if we can work out a deal, I would love to do it; I think both of those brothers are very nice guys."

But King doesn't think they're cut out to be boxers.

"I think they're too intelligent to be prizefighters," he says. "They got PhD's and their PhD's tell them not to get hit. Well, that's the 'Sweet Science', hit and not be hit. However, I think they don't have that killer instinct, they don't have the risk taking factor that really makes a great champion. And they really need somebody that would tell them this and urge them to do this. Even in victory, is defeat.

"So you gotta get a guy that will snatch victory out of defeat, or will be able to take the reckless chance or have reckless abandon to really capture the imagination of the public."

That's pathetic, he doesn't even hide it any more. DK won't stop at nothing to have them all, will he? If I was Vitaliy, I would stay as far from DK as I possibly could, especially from DK's fighter that doesn't hold any titles.
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Don King marketing a dominant white heavyweight, it could work! King is right, if Klit signed with king he wuld have a big career. I think he should do it, you might get an undisputed champ considering that King would have all the champs!

that would be the day rahman knocking out vitali i think vitali would beat rahman within 6 rounds

that would be the day rahman knocking out vitali i think vitali would beat rahman within 6 rounds



If Vitali would be able to stay on the outside, I think Vitali's style is perfect for Rahman personally. If Rahman came in shape he would be coming forward towards klitschko and Rahman has those killer hooks which WILL get to klitschko, Klitschko has an urgency to drop his hands and Rahman can get inside to do the job and I think he could, provided he fought Vitali the same way he fought Kali Meehan but Kali is nothing like Vitali.

I hope Rahman wouldnt make the same mistake as every other heavyweight and come in heavy thinking they will lean on him, because that doesnt work and works to Vitali's advantage of fighting a slower opponent and fighting on the outside.

The key to beating Klitschko is get him tired within 3-5 rounds and then in the second half of the fight, get inside! Noone has gotten inside of Vitali and that is the key to Victory, Inside body work...


RAHMAN CAN DO THAT!


Provided he comes in shape! :D

He's back with the numbers. Last time I heard, his Struggle for Supremacy did worst than Klitchko-Williams. And this features most of his heavy, excluding Brewster. I think even if he did promote that fight, it wouldn't be successful (though better, but not by much).

But I do believe that Rahman have a good chance of beating V.Klit if he stays with he's fight plan. I want to see this fight...well actually, I pretty much want to see V.Klit fight anybody who isn't hand pick by him. Last time I heard, he wants to fight some nobody in Ukraine before taking Rahman.

My money would be on The Rock. He was able to take punishment from Lewis and I think Lewis is a harder puncher than Vitali. I'd say Rahman could KO Vitali in the 7th or 8th round.

This quote by Don King say's it all.

"Yes," stated King, unequivocally. "In my opinion, I think that Hasim Rahman will knock out Vitali Klitschko and that's why I'm working urgently and feverishly with Shelly Finkel (who advises Klitschko) and everyone else to give him his day in the ring. If he don't, I'll be really shocked and dismayed if he doesn't. However, if he should win, I got all the titles and I will certainly do a tournament and in the meantime I will try to work something out with Klitschko now that I know he's free of Universum.


The guy is an evil individual.

My money would be on The Rock. He was able to take punishment from Lewis and I think Lewis is a harder puncher than Vitali. I'd say Rahman could KO Vitali in the 7th or 8th round.
Yes Lewis has more power than Vitali, but it's one punch power. Vitali on the other hand break's down his opponent with alot of punches and totally exhaust's his opponent's into submission.

To me it depends on this, Will we get the Rahman who fought Ruiz? or the Rahman who fought Lennox Lewis?

Yes Lewis has more power than Vitali, but it's one punch power. Vitali on the other hand break's down his opponent with alot of punches and totally exhaust's his opponent's into submission.

....exactly, and Rahman will succumb to that pressure and constant pounding just like his last several victims.

rahman??? do you guys remember the rematch with lewis? rahman(and his corner) thought the best way to defend against lewis was to stick both hands straight out at him! lol... and that's exactly what rahman did right before getting KTFO!

rahman lost to ruiz and OLDLYFIELD!!! he's beaten absolutley NOBODY in the last 3 years... don't let his KO's over guys MUCH, MUCH worse than danny williams and corrie sanders fool you....

rahman??? do you guys remember the rematch with lewis? rahman(and his corner) thought the best way to defend against lewis was to stick both hands straight out at him! lol... and that's exactly what rahman did right before getting KTFO!

rahman lost to ruiz and OLDLYFIELD!!! he's beaten absolutley NOBODY in the last 3 years... don't let his KO's over guys MUCH, MUCH worse than danny williams and corrie sanders fool you....



Everybody loses to Ruiz unless you got true 1 punch ko power, So dont disrespect a fighter losing to a champion like Ruiz.

Those punches Lennox landed in the 4th round would have ko'd ANYBODY!


Like I had said, Rahman likes to come forward and Vitali's opponents do that so it would be interesting to see, an inshape rahman takes it if he comes forward keeps head low and works the **** out of the body.....

Everybody loses to Ruiz unless you got true 1 punch ko power, So dont disrespect a fighter losing to a champion like Ruiz.

Those punches Lennox landed in the 4th round would have ko'd ANYBODY!


Like I had said, Rahman likes to come forward and Vitali's opponents do that so it would be interesting to see, an inshape rahman takes it if he comes forward keeps head low and works the **** out of the body.....


.....I see no way Rahman has any chance in this fight and I don't even believe it will be all that competitive. Although, one can't discount the DK theory and how bad he wants all the titles. I'm sure he would do just about anything to get them. :)

Everybody loses to Ruiz unless you got true 1 punch ko power, So dont disrespect a fighter losing to a champion like Ruiz.

Those punches Lennox landed in the 4th round would have ko'd ANYBODY!


Like I had said, Rahman likes to come forward and Vitali's opponents do that so it would be interesting to see, an inshape rahman takes it if he comes forward keeps head low and works the **** out of the body.....


Everybody loses to ruiz??? yeah, everybody mediocre, not tua or roy jones.....

Yeah, lewis's punch on rock would have KO'd most anyone, but i wasn't making a comment on rock's chin... i was talking about his lack of skills and defense(stick your arms straight out??)

.....I see no way Rahman has any chance in this fight and I don't even believe it will be all that competitive. Although, one can't discount the DK theory and how bad he wants all the titles. I'm sure he would do just about anything to get them. :)
The Klitschko's better have national guards surrounding their dressing room before the fight because King will find a way to get to Vitali's food or water bottle. :)

The Klitschko's better have national guards surrounding their dressing room before the fight because King will find a way to get to Vitali's food or water bottle. :)

you are exactly right my friend!!
as soon as VK accepts a fight with Rahman... it'll be the end of decency and hope of a future in the HW division. DK will have his perfect opportunity to work 'his black magic' and pull that title out of thin air. DK could figure out a way to win that title, even if it was Glass Joe he was sending in there against VK...

you are exactly right my friend!!
as soon as VK accepts a fight with Rahman... it'll be the end of decency and hope of a future in the HW division. DK will have his perfect opportunity to work 'his black magic' and pull that title out of thin air. DK could figure out a way to win that title, even if it was Glass Joe he was sending in there against VK...


.....Yeah, the more I think of it I agree with an earlier post by someone who said VK should stay away from Don Kings guys at all costs. I think VK has the skill to whip any of those guys in the ring but with Don King involved things get a little dicey to say the least. Especially since he would control the entire heavyweight division with all the belts if he somehow "got rid" of VK. Aside from hiring armed bodyguards to protect him 24 hours a day, VK may have to make a deal with the devil(King) and agree to become one of Kings boys to avoid getting knocked out or knocked off.

I think VK should just keep fighting and beating all the top 10 HW contenders. Don't accept any fights from DK. Just show his dominance through destroying all the rest of the competition except for DK's fighters. Then DK's champs will look so rubbish, like paper champs that just fight each other, so that DK doesn't loose any belts.
when was the last time a DK champ fought a non-DK fighter? and if that happened or is going to happen, DK gets options right?
plus, since VK wont fight WK, VK beating down all the contenders and not WK, WK would eventually have a chance at a DK title shot due to manditory challenger status..

I think VK should just keep fighting and beating all the top 10 HW contenders. Don't accept any fights from DK. Just show his dominance through destroying all the rest of the competition except for DK's fighters. Then DK's champs will look so rubbish, like paper champs that just fight each other, so that DK doesn't loose any belts.
when was the last time a DK champ fought a non-DK fighter? and if that happened or is going to happen, DK gets options right?
plus, since VK wont fight WK, VK beating down all the contenders and not WK, WK would eventually have a chance at a DK title shot due to manditory challenger status..
Unfortuantely, most of the top ten contender's are in Don King's stable.

On a side note does anyone on here know why Bob Arum does not promote any heavyweights? He seems to stick with the lower class fighters.

Vitali will punish Rahman and will not be careless enough to stand still while his opponent is swinging for his life. Many trips to the canvas for Rahman and an early night for Vitali.

Rahman would have a good chance, but I wouldnt bet too heavily on him. If he lands his right it could be a short night for Vitaly

As much as I dislike the current crop of heavyweights, I guess there must be a heavyweight champion. And as long as there is a heavyweight champion, there might as well be the 2 best fighters at heavyweight fighting I guess. Those 2 happen to be Vitali and Rahman. I would much rather see that than Byrd-Golata II.

Im affraid that the only way for VK to fight the other champs without being robbeb ore poisoned is to sign with king, vk would then be dk bestest milkingcow and above all safe from ****

Unfortuantely, most of the top ten contender's are in Don King's stable.

On a side note does anyone on here know why Bob Arum does not promote any heavyweights? He seems to stick with the lower class fighters.


It's a west coast thing, Arum controls anything and everything south of 200 pounds and King dominates the heavies.


Same way Don only deals with heavyweights really, I guess you can bring up fighters names like Spinks/Trinidad and Mayorga and so forth though.

Also Bob Arum is finished, Top Rank will collapse within 2 years....Thanks Golden Boy Promotions.

i keep hearing about one right hand from rahman KOing VK.... rahman is not a one punch KO artist(only once has he KO'd a decent fighter with one punch)... rahman does not hit as hard as lewis and VK took lewis's shots without going down.... if rahman wins, it will not be a 1-punch KO like he did to lewis...

DK is just trying to use the same tactics as the HW boxers do like Byrd and Toney, trying to talk trash so that he can get VK's attention, maybe get under his skin so to set up a match between Rahman and VK. Once it's set, then he can work on swindling that title from the real HW champ, however possible.

Don always was the optimist.:)