If he keeps on improving his defense and forces fighters to fight at his pace he can hang with anybody.

I don't think he can. Gatti has never shown that hes an elite fighter. He will KO the Dorins and Leija's of the world, but he needs to show that he can beat fighters like Tszyu and Mayweather before I comment on him. Since he's come back from the DLH blitzing, he hasn't really fought anybody. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan, but I'm also a fan of The Prince. And neither were elite fighters.

Him clawing to the top of the division would be a real longshot, but still if he gets past Leija I would happily pay for his fight with Mayweather. I wouldn't put him as that great of a chance against Mayweather, but who knows I think it would be interesting.

Him clawing to the top of the division would be a real longshot, but still if he gets past Leija I would happily pay for his fight with Mayweather. I wouldn't put him as that great of a chance against Mayweather, but who knows I think it would be interesting.
That Mayweather is smaller than Gatti is Gatti's only chance. If he can outjab Mayweather, you never know.

Not while Tszyu is at the top. Gatti will never unseat him.

gatti fights to the level of his lesser opponents. i dont think he will be on top for much longer.pbf needs to make a fight happen with gatti

If he keeps on improving his defense and forces fighters to fight at his pace he can hang with anybody.


Nope.

Gatti is what he is he's been around the block a time or two. Listen he aint turning into Pernell Whitaker alright. He's still very easy to hit.

The guy is having life and death struggles with people like Joe Hutchinson and Gialunco Branco and you think he can hang with the top people at 140?

Gatti and his people talked non stop about Floyd Mayweather then Mayweather moved up beat Corley to become the #1 contender and Gatti and his people ran screaming the other way. There not stupid they know what level Gatti is on.

Nope.
Gatti is what he is he's been around the block a time or two. Listen he aint turning into Pernell Whitaker alright. He's still very easy to hit.
The guy is having life and death struggles with people like Joe Hutchinson and Gialunco Branco and you think he can hang with the top people at 140?
Gatti and his people talked non stop about Floyd Mayweather then Mayweather moved up beat Corley to become the #1 contender and Gatti and his people ran screaming the other way. There not stupid they know what level Gatti is on.

Exactly. The guy was outboxed by Ivan Robinson, not once but twice!!! Once he fights one of the top guys in the division he'll get TKO'ed by taking too many punches, or from cuts developing after taking some punishment.

I would hardly call Gatti's loss to Robinson as being outboxed, his first fight with Robinson was a close SD loss and fight of the year.
Been waiting for Gatti to burn out a few fights ago, though he still seems to entertain and defeat some good fighters.

I don't think he can. Gatti has never shown that hes an elite fighter. He will KO the Dorins and Leija's of the world, but he needs to show that he can beat fighters like Tszyu and Mayweather before I comment on him. Since he's come back from the DLH blitzing, he hasn't really fought anybody. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan, but I'm also a fan of The Prince. And neither were elite fighters.

Mark my words Asian; it will be a tough battle for Gatti, but he will beat that sorry ass Mayweather. I really believe he has what it takes, "finally"! Of course after he runs through leija.

Gatti has heart, that's it. His heart can only take him so far until he has to stop from taking a pretty bad beating. I love watching Gatti fight and he's very entertaining though I'd rather see him fighting people at his level that he can put up a better entertaining fight than watching him get beat up badly, especially now where he's seem to become a huge fan favorite after his Micky Ward Triogy and with Micky retired and all, most Micky fan's(if not all) converted to being a Gatti fan. Let Gatti leave the sport with a bang rather than a bad beating. He's given to boxing enough already with the trilogy.

Mayweather is to fast, to slick, and to hard to hit for gatti. Gattis only chance is to knockout floyd and i dont see him trading with Gatti so that sees near imposible. He will hurt him really bad and then eventually knock him out. Mayweather in 8.

I feel strongly that "sorry ass Mayweather" is a comment made by only the truly stupid. If this comment is from you, please leave this site!
Mayweather will do unspeakable things to Arturo Gatti, believe. It is probably the worst fight at 140lbs for him because of the stick and move style of mayweather.
Tsyzu is older, slower and can be hurt. Much better option for Gatti. I pick Tsyzu over gatti but if Gatti is gonna pull off the shocking win i think Tsyzu is the likely loser, not Mayweather!

I would hardly call Gatti's loss to Robinson as being outboxed, his first fight with Robinson was a close SD loss and fight of the year.
Been waiting for Gatti to burn out a few fights ago, though he still seems to entertain and defeat some good fighters.

Then what would you call it? He was outbox boxed twice. Ivan Robinson is no puncher so he had to box Gatti. The same Gatti who was out boxed by Angel Manfredy then KO'ed.

Gatti is probably my favorite fighter for alot of reasons.

That being said, I don't think he could beat Mayweather, Tszyu, or Sharba Mitchell. He is too basic. If he were to fight Cotto, it would be an awesome war, but Gatti would probably end up getting pounded on badly and lose.

Gatti should stick to guys at his level if he wants to win consistently.
Mayweather would probably not be able to stop him, but would win a convincing dec. Styles make matches, and Mayweather/Gatti doesn't sound like that great of a fight to me.

The 1st Robinson fight was actually very close, but the second one, Gatti lost pretty much every round. Robinson outboxed and outpunched him.

Right now, the best big-namers for him to fight would be Tszyu or Cotto.
Even though he'd lose both, they would be great fan-pleasers.

i would compare gatti to an english middleweight of the 80's and 90's called nigel benn. now no-one was going to say he was the best in the world, but when you went to see him you always got value for money and he was good enough to beat guys like doug dewitt and gerald mclellan. same with gatti, i suspect a vast majority here have loved watching him over the years, but he is'nt the best in the world and guys like tzsyu and mayweather will always be too good for him, but he's no bum and has alot of skill, and of course heart and guts by the truckload.

I think you do rather a diservice to Nigel Benn there I have to say, I understand the point you are trying to make in terms of lack of technical boxing ability at the very highest level but Benn had a bigger heart, tougher chin and more pop in either hand than Gatti, hence he was at the top of his division and did mix it with the best. You certainly do a diservice to G-Man with your "guys like" comment, he was one of the best boxers pound for pound in the world coming into the fight with Benn.

Gatti has the ability at 140 to go 12 with the likes of Mayweather and Mitchell because they don't really bang, he would struggle against Tyzsu, Hatton and Cotto. Below them Gatti is probably on a level with Harris and could beat the likes of Chop Chop and Leija, Spad etc.

If Gatti fights Floyd he is done, to much skill for Gatti. Much respect for Gatti though, what an exciting career he has had.

Gatti looks real good as of late. I think he would have a better shot at kostya then mayweather though.

Gatti look real good as of late. I think he would have a better shot at kostya then mayweather though.
As long as he doesn't get hit, he should be OK. Look, I'm a Gatti fan, but he really hasn't ever shown that he's any different from Matthew Saad Muhammad. An exciting fighter who has a ton of heart and power, but for whatever reason can't beat the elite fighters.

I think Gatti should angle for a Tsyzu fight. Tsyzu is getting on and Vince Philips showed if you hit Tsyzu square he can be KO`ed. I`d pick Tsyzu to stop Gatti late but with the power and the heart Gatti might just have an outside shot of a miricle!

I don't agree with pinkpanther.
Benn did not have 'a bigger heart, and tougher chin' than Gatti. Although he may have had more power, that's more of an issue the weight difference in that comparison.

Arturo Gatti is the best 3 round fighter in the world.

Then what would you call it? He was outbox boxed twice. Ivan Robinson is no puncher so he had to box Gatti. The same Gatti who was out boxed by Angel Manfredy then KO'ed.
Outboxed by manfredy and than KO-ed?

The fight about was even, with Gatti growing in the fight. Than it was stopped on a cut!

unfortunately no gatti is the greatest fringe fighter ever, just not elite

With his power and chin, and some good boxing skills, Gatti is a threat to anybody who gets in the ring with him.

I think Gatti should angle for a Tsyzu fight. Tsyzu is getting on and Vince Philips showed if you hit Tsyzu square he can be KO`ed. I`d pick Tsyzu to stop Gatti late but with the power and the heart Gatti might just have an outside shot of a miricle!

That is not what happened in Tszyu-Phillips. That fight was a war of attrition. Phillips had alot more left in the tank. than Tszyu.

Phillips was the ONLY man at that time strong enough to not be outmuscled by Tszyu. Phillips also had that "**** it, I got nothing to lose" thing going for him, making him able to take just about any shot.

It was not ONE shot Phillips hit him with. He hit him with about 7 straight right hands before he was out. At that time Tszyu did not know how to clinch when he was hurt. As we have seen from Mitchell I and Judah, he has learned his lesson quite well.

Gatti is not strong enough to slug with Tszyu, and is not a good enough boxer to outbox Tszyu.

Gatti-Tszyu would be a great historic fight, but Gatti doesn't stand a chance.

That is not what happened in Tszyu-Phillips. That fight was a war of attrition. Phillips had alot more left in the tank. than Tszyu.

Phillips was the ONLY man at that time strong enough to not be outmuscled by Tszyu. Phillips also had that "**** it, I got nothing to lose" thing going for him, making him able to take just about any shot.

It was not ONE shot Phillips hit him with. He hit him with about 7 straight right hands before he was out. At that time Tszyu did not know how to clinch when he was hurt. As we have seen from Mitchell I and Judah, he has learned his lesson quite well.

Gatti is not strong enough to slug with Tszyu, and is not a good enough boxer to outbox Tszyu.

Gatti-Tszyu would be a great historic fight, but Gatti doesn't stand a chance.

I dont want to see Tszyu vs Gatti, i have a bad feeling Tszyu will blast him out of there, i think Gatti's a very good fighter but he'd be better fighting Mayweather.

I think Mayweather would win on points but its an interesting fight, i'd even like him to fight Harris.

I don't know about Tszyu "blasting" Gatti. Tszyu is a lot older than he was in his prime and after watching the Vince Phillips fight, I think Gatti has a good chance. I think it would be a great fight. Mayweather.. now that might be pushing it a little. But I would never count Gatti out in a fight. He has the ability to end a fight with one punch, so he's never far from winning a match. Tszyu vs. Gatti prediction: Draw.

Gatti has a chance with anyone he fights, there are just some fighters I don't think I would like to see him in with. I think KT would be a very entertaining fight, AND I'd give Gatti a chance, he has good handspeed, punches with some authority, and is always in great shape. I think Gatti is much more than a three round fighter, and I think KT punches harder, no doubt, but IMO, Gatti puts his punches together better.

I don't know about Tszyu "blasting" Gatti. Tszyu is a lot older than he was in his prime and after watching the Vince Phillips fight, I think Gatti has a good chance. I think it would be a great fight. Mayweather.. now that might be pushing it a little. But I would never count Gatti out in a fight. He has the ability to end a fight with one punch, so he's never far from winning a match. Tszyu vs. Gatti prediction: Draw.
I thought you said that you havent even seen Floyd fight

Gatti outboxed Tracy Harris Patterson TWICE, and in the process surprising many (including Patterson in the first fight) that the puncher Gatti could box.

Both Ivan Robinson fights were close; the first a SD the second would have been scored a draw would there been no point deduction for Gatti. Ivan was the better boxer in both, but Gatti being "out boxed", no (if rememder it correctly the second fight Gatti lost his steam in the last part of the fight).

Tszyu is in my book at the very top of the light welterweight division. The sharp and hungry Tszyu we seen at the last fight against Mitchell will probably win against Gatti.
Gatti boxing will give Kostya the opportunity to land the straight right from long distance, I think Tszyu 's best weapon. So Gatti should fight half distance and giving Tszyu angles (and punishing Tszyu's body!).

With Gatti's heart there is ALWAYS the possibility (Tszyu defense mostly consist of his offense or leaning backwards).

A fight I definitely want to see!! :)

And probably will not be made :mad:
(and that is not because the fighters do not want it!)

I think you do rather a diservice to Nigel Benn there I have to say, I understand the point you are trying to make in terms of lack of technical boxing ability at the very highest level but Benn had a bigger heart, tougher chin and more pop in either hand than Gatti, hence he was at the top of his division and did mix it with the best. You certainly do a diservice to G-Man with your "guys like" comment, he was one of the best boxers pound for pound in the world coming into the fight with Benn.

Gatti has the ability at 140 to go 12 with the likes of Mayweather and Mitchell because they don't really bang, he would struggle against Tyzsu, Hatton and Cotto. Below them Gatti is probably on a level with Harris and could beat the likes of Chop Chop and Leija, Spad etc.
i meant no disrespect to gerald with my "guys like" comment. i was at that fight and have sent a donation to help his medical bills (i sent the price of my ticket).

Gatti is a true warrior of boxing but I dont believe in his actual skill. The guy is good, dont get me wrong, but he aint as good as some of you praise him. He really struggled to beat Branco. And that is one of his recent fights. Also, even though he possess good power in both of his hand its not the power of Zoo. Most of the KO were really from consistent work and not flush like Zoo's. Even though I dont believe he can beat Kostya, I would give him a good chance against PBF.PBF still got an edge with his skill superiority but quiet often good swarmer(pressure fighter) beats good boxer. He only needs to learn to cut off the ring properly and his chances to beat PBF will be really good.

Where does everyone rate Gatti at 140?

I rate him about 6/7.


Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter.

World Light Welterweight Ratings
Name
1 Kostya Tszyu
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3 Ricky Hatton
4 Miguel Angel Cotto
5 Vivian Harris
6 Sharmba Mitchell
7 Arturo Gatti

Entertainment-wise, he's way up there. As far as skills, he isn't so bad but there is just loads of talent in his division. That's why he'll never be ranked as high.

Where does everyone rate Gatti at 140?

I rate him about 6/7.


Below is how Boxrec rate 140, they use a point system without bias to any fighter.

World Light Welterweight Ratings
Name
1 Kostya Tszyu
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3 Ricky Hatton
4 Miguel Angel Cotto
5 Vivian Harris
6 Sharmba Mitchell
7 Arturo Gatti

You must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are.

You must be new to boxing if you believe boxrec's rankings. Pick up an issue of Ring Magazine and you'll konw what the rankings really are.

New to boxing, LMAO :D

The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters.

All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings.

I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.

New to boxing, LMAO :D

The ring is an American magazine so it is bias to the American boxing scene, all the other magazines around the world are bias towards there own fighters.

All the belts are bias toward certain fighters. I picked Boxrec because its an unbias rating system, not everyone will agree with it but thats the same with any ratings.

I posted the rating for users to make quick reference too, i dont exactly agree with it myself.

A number ranking system is biased too, because it ranks unbeaten fighters way too high, look how high boxrec ranks Valuev, it is ridiculous.

Gatti has a chance with anyone he fights, there are just some fighters I don't think I would like to see him in with. I think KT would be a very entertaining fight, AND I'd give Gatti a chance, he has good handspeed, punches with some authority, and is always in great shape. I think Gatti is much more than a three round fighter, and I think KT punches harder, no doubt, but IMO, Gatti puts his punches together better.

I agree that Gatti puts his punches together better, but I always feel like he comes out the worse in the exchanges. As long as he keeps boxing he's great.

I thought you said that you havent even seen Floyd fight

I never seen a lot of people fight, but that doesn't mean I can't acknowledge that they're good or better than another fighter. Its called a "scouting report." Geez man too many smart asses in these forums.

Something else that would be a factor against PBF is the sheer volume of punches that Gatti often throws in fights where he can keep his opponent in front of him. PBF is quick on his feet, but he has been walked down consistently through entire fights by certain opponents. Of course, when they had him against the ropes, they couldn't really capitalize because of his counterpunching and head movement, but one was able to hit him enough to cause swelling under his eye, my point is, what if it was Gatti? I think with the volume of punches he throws, and PBF's bad hands, Gatti would be able to get him in trouble, just a thought.

gatti heart and power give him a chance against anyone period...so yes he has a chance...gatti heart is probably bigger then hopkins,tito's and Dlh put together..his heart is something you just dont see in boxing now-a-days...and it gives him a great shot at beating anyone no matter if his skill arnt the best
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