View Full Version : Tookie Williams........


Smack
12-12-2005, 02:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051212/ap_on_re_us/williams_execution

By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer
56 minutes ago

SAN FRANCISCO - The California Supreme Court late Sunday refused to grant a stay of execution for convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams, meaning the former gang leader who became an outspoken critic of gang violence will be executed early Tuesday unless the governor grants clemency or a last-ditch federal appeal succeeds.

Williams' supporters also made another pitch directly to the governor Sunday to spare his life, telling Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in a letter that they had a new witness who could help prove Williams' innocence.

"All we need now is time to investigate to make sure this story is real," said NAACP California President Alice Huffman. "We're hoping and praying for clemency, but we're not going to leave any stone unturned."

Schwarzenegger said last week that he was agonizing over Williams' request for clemency.

Prosecutors and family members of the victims have urged him to deny the request, in part because Williams continues to deny guilt in the slayings. No clemency request has been granted in California since 1967, when Ronald Reagan spared a mentally ill killer.

Following the state Supreme Court ruling, lawyers for Williams immediately asked the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals here to block his looming execution. A decision was expected Monday.

Williams' supporters, an outspoken group ranging from community leaders to actors and rappers, have held rallies in his support and argue that executing Williams would send the wrong message.

They say he has redeemed himself by speaking out against violence and writing children's books on the evils of gang life. During his 24 years at San Quentin, the Crips street gang founder turned his life around to the point that a Swiss legislator, college professors and others repeatedly submitted his name for Nobel peace and literature prizes.

Williams, 51, was condemned for the slaying of a man during a robbery in February 1979 and the deaths of a couple and their daughter at a South Los Angeles motel the following month.

He denies committing the murders but has apologized for founding the Crips, a gang prosecutors blamed for thousands of murders in Los Angeles and beyond.

Williams is scheduled for lethal injection at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday. He would be the 12th inmate executed by the state since California reinstated the death penalty in 1977.

The state Supreme Court ruled 6-0 against staying his execution, saying Williams' last-minute appeal lacked merit and was untimely. Deputy Attorney General Lisa Brault had implored the justices early Sunday to dismiss the petition, writing that it "is without merit and is manifestly designed for delay."

The justices earlier had denied a defense request to reopen the case over allegations that shoddy forensics linked a weapon used in three of the murders to a shotgun registered to Williams.

In the defense request for a stay of execution, attorney Verna Wefald had argued that Los Angeles County prosecutors failed to disclose at trial that witness Alfred Coward was not a U.S. citizen and that he had a violent criminal history. Coward is now in prison in Canada for the murder of a man during a robbery.

"All of the witnesses who implicated Williams were criminals who were given significant incentives to testify against him and ongoing benefits for their testimony," Wefald wrote.

The California Supreme Court, a federal district court judge in Los Angeles, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals and the U.S. Supreme Court have all upheld his convictions.

Smack
12-12-2005, 02:40 PM
This just makes everything one step closer.

Arnold better not **** up.

RAESAAD
12-12-2005, 02:40 PM
here come the Riots!!!! :eek: :omfg: :nono:

BLOODSHED
12-12-2005, 02:42 PM
He did the crime, now he should pay....
:spank:

Smack
12-12-2005, 02:43 PM
I wish they'd hang the ****er from a light pole in Watts.

momita
12-12-2005, 04:34 PM
I laugh everytime I hear a big important movie star push their do good intentions all over the news as if everyday normal people who don't have body guards at their side give a rats a$$.

Explosivo
12-12-2005, 04:36 PM
There will be no riots. Not that many people want to save Tookie.

The Noose
12-12-2005, 04:39 PM
Im not a fan of the death penalty.

I think edjucating the young is very important, and it sems like no other gang member who is on death row will even try edjucating anyone now.

Make sense?

Anway, i dont know the whole story.

Smack
12-12-2005, 04:44 PM
Im not a fan of the death penalty.

I think edjucating the young is very important, and it sems like no other gang member who is on death row will even try edjucating anyone now.

Make sense?

Anway, i dont know the whole story.
Long story short, he killed a Chinese family (dad, mom, and daughter) for less then a 100 bucks, and he shot a clerk in the back twice with a shotgun.

He won't take ownership of his crimes, I say let the piece of **** fry.

I'll be pounding shots at 2:01 tonight. :cool:

badblood
12-12-2005, 04:52 PM
Long story short, he killed a Chinese family (dad, mom, and daughter) for less then a 100 bucks, and he shot a clerk in the back twice with a shotgun.

He won't take ownership of his crimes, I say let the piece of **** fry.
I'll be pounding shots at 2:01 tonight. :cool:
It's leathal injection.

Smack
12-12-2005, 04:54 PM
It's leathal injection.
I was meaning it as a figure of speech.

The Noose
12-12-2005, 04:54 PM
Long story short, he killed a Chinese family (dad, mom, and daughter) for less then a 100 bucks, and he shot a clerk in the back twice with a shotgun.

He won't take ownership of his crimes, I say let the piece of **** fry.

I'll be pounding shots at 2:01 tonight. :cool:

Rite.
But like i said, it seems that other criminals wont even try to talk to youngsters about gangs if they think theryre going to be executed.

Smack
12-12-2005, 05:05 PM
Rite.
But like i said, it seems that other criminals wont even try to talk to youngsters about gangs if they think theryre going to be executed.
It was a ploy that he hoped would save his life.

It didn't.

Governator KO1

badblood
12-12-2005, 05:17 PM
I have no remorse for cold blooded killers. The only complaint that I have is that it takes to long for the sentence to be carried out.

Smack
12-12-2005, 05:53 PM
I have no remorse for cold blooded killers. The only complaint that I have is that it takes to long for the sentence to be carried out.
There is a bill in the house right now, that could speed up the process by over half.

Cut down the average stay on death row from 13 years, to 4-5 years.

I'm all for it.

-Jay-
12-12-2005, 05:58 PM
I have no remorse for cold blooded killers. The only complaint that I have is that it takes to long for the sentence to be carried out.

Too much taxpayers money is used to keep these guys alive, soem guys sit on deathrow for years, what a waste of money that is.

Smack
12-12-2005, 06:02 PM
Too much taxpayers money is used to keep these guys alive, soem guys sit on deathrow for years, what a waste of money that is.
The appeals process cuts these ****wads far too much slack.

Tonight will be a step in the right direction.

badblood
12-12-2005, 06:03 PM
Texas is the only state that has their **** together when it comes to speedy sentences.

-Jay-
12-12-2005, 06:04 PM
They should get 1 appeal and then thats it. If they lose within a few months they should be dead, saves time and money, and appeal after appeal after appeal.

Smack
12-12-2005, 06:05 PM
Texas is the only state that has their **** together when it comes to speedy sentences.
You are totally right.

Huntsville doesn't play around.

blockhead
12-12-2005, 06:15 PM
It was a ploy that he hoped would save his life.

It didn't.

Governator KO1
exactly, he is not reformed he is a coward.

badblood
12-12-2005, 06:18 PM
exactly, he is not reformed he is a coward.
He will scream kick and cry all the way to the chamber. :lol1:

7001
12-12-2005, 06:20 PM
If you get sentenced to death, they should just take you right out back of the court house and shoot you right then and there, and then send the family of the guilty a bill for the bullets!

Smack
12-12-2005, 06:26 PM
If you get sentenced to death, they should just take you right out back of the court house and shoot you right then and there, and then send the family of the guilty a bill for the bullets!
A rope and a tree is alot cheaper.

7001
12-12-2005, 06:33 PM
We could just go Iraq on them and chop their heads off with dull pocket knives.

Smack
12-12-2005, 06:37 PM
We could just go Iraq on them and chop their heads off with dull pocket knives.
Good karma to you

Pico Hollywood
12-12-2005, 07:04 PM
A rope and a tree is alot cheaper.

you talking about Lynching or Hanging?

momita
12-12-2005, 07:07 PM
you talking about Lynching or Hanging?

:confused: wow, theres a difference? I thought they were the same??

Smack
12-12-2005, 07:07 PM
you talking about Lynching or Hanging?
Meant hanging, but lynching would work.

wow, theres a difference? I thought they were the same??
They're similar, but there is a whole bunch of racist undertones to saying, "I think we should lynch his ass" So I try to avoid saying it......

badblood
12-12-2005, 07:10 PM
Gas chamber and electric chairs should have never been abolished.

7001
12-12-2005, 07:19 PM
Gas chamber and electric chairs should have never been abolished.
I agree. It should be the gas chamber. What a brutal death.

badblood
12-12-2005, 07:22 PM
I agree. It should be the gas chamber. What a brutal death.
Ride the lightning. :cool:

Smack
12-12-2005, 07:22 PM
I agree. It should be the gas chamber. What a brutal death.
Yeah, but that **** costs too much money.

I say stick with the tried and true hanging.

Smack
12-13-2005, 01:34 AM
Not much longer now.

Buh bye you piece of ****.

Meester Keester
12-13-2005, 01:37 AM
Smack--you're paid in full.

Now take that 40,000 and pay the electric company to pump some more juice into that piece of **** Tookie.

Rot in hell, *****.

Smack
12-13-2005, 01:38 AM
Smack--you're paid in full.

Now take that 40,000 and pay the electric company to pump some more juice into that piece of **** Tookie.

Rot in hell, *****.
Damn I was hoping for a dvd. :mad:

You aren't my friend anymore falps.

hectari
12-13-2005, 01:39 AM
Though Williams has steadfastly denied committing the four murders, the DA's report says he admitted the crimes to the following people:

* James Garrett, a man with whom Williams lived most of the time before and after the murders were committed. The DA says Garrett possessed specific details of the crime and that Williams threatened to kill one of his accomplices, Alfred Coward.

* Ester Garrett, the wife of James Garrett, who said Williams characterized the Taiwanese motel owners murdered in one of the robberies as "Buddhaheads." She said Williams also admitted killing another "white dude" for $63 and indicated he was also considering killing Coward.

* Coward, one of Williams' accomplices, testified that Williams laughed about the murder of Owens. "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him," Coward recalled Williams saying. He followed this statement with growling noises.

* Tony Sims, another accomplice did not testify in the Williams' case because he was not offered immunity. But his sworn testimony in his own trial, in which he received a life sentence, corroborated the account of Coward. In subsequent parole hearings over the last 26 years, his account of Williams' execution-style murders of the victims has never changed.

In addition, the DA report says Williams implicated himself in the murders at the motel by telling deputies after his arrest that five shots were fired.

"Williams, in a moment of mistaken candor, provided detectives with information only the killer would know," the report says. "Moreover, he repeated that knowledge twice. When confronted with this apparent knowledge, Williams against acting as the guilty party, retracted the statements and denied saying what he had just been heard to say. These statements and Williams' immediate retraction of them are admissions to the Brookhaven (Motel) murders. Williams knew five shots were fired because it was Williams who pulled the trigger each of those five times."

The DA report also contains revelations about a plot by Williams to escape from the Los Angeles County Jail, killing two deputies in the process and then murdering Coward.

Meester Keester
12-13-2005, 01:39 AM
Damn I was hoping for a dvd. :mad:

You aren't my friend anymore falps.

UP got all the spare dvd's I had lying around with his recent order..

Sorry.

Smack
12-13-2005, 01:42 AM
UP got all the spare dvd's I had lying around with his recent order..

Sorry.
That big tittied bastard, I'm going to kick him in his good eye when I see him.

THE REAL NINJA
12-13-2005, 02:20 AM
dude was big as hell back in the day http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41064000/jpg/_41064856_tookieap300.jgp.jpg

Smack
12-13-2005, 02:23 AM
dude was big as hell back in the day http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41064000/jpg/_41064856_tookieap300.jgp.jpg
Yea, but his big ass is about to take a ride in 40mins.