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SuckaPunch
12-07-2005, 08:51 PM
Barrera: "Morales will dominate Pacquiao"

By Ant Evans: One of the super fights already inked for 2006 is the January 21 rematch between Erik Morales and Manny Pacquiao, which will emanate from the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. Their 12 rounder in March 2005 was an early contender for Fight of the Year (and will certainly be on the ballot for SecondsOut's Annual Reader Awards next week) with Morales hanging on to take a close but deserved points decision.

But Pacquiao engendered much sympathy in defeat.. The Pac-Man fought under less than optimum conditions, what with him in the middle of an ugly divorce from Murad Muhammad, the promoter who not only signed away Pacquiao's right to wear his favoured Reyes gloves but also took the luxury suite his hosts at the MGM Grand had provided for the fighter.

Plus, as he and trainer Freddie Roach repeatedly pointed out in the nine months since, Pacquiao rocked Morales to his boots in the championship rounds and when you throw all of that together with Morales's listless 12 round lost to unheralded Zahir Raheem in September, it is easy to understand why some bookmakers strongly favour Pacquiao to avenge the defeat next month.

However common opponent Marco Antonio Barrera, who is almost certain to fight the winner in the second half of the New Year, believes 'El Terrible' will improve on his March performance and hammer 'the Pac-Man' second time around.

"Morales will dominate in an easy fight," Barrera told SecondsOut. "I want to fight the winner of (next month's fight) and I think that will be Erik Morales. Morales is not shot, forget about his last (performance), he was not motivated, did not train hard and was fighting too heavy (weighing in as a lightweight)."

That prediction shouldn't take long-time fans by surprise. Pride often massages fighters predictions in that they will select an opponent they defeated over a fighter they lost to. That way they can say 'See? I told you my loss to that guy was a fluke because a guy I beat, beat him'.

But, whatever, fans will welcome the news that Barrera v Morales IV is indeed on the cards for the New Year.

The three-division unified world champion continued: "Actually, Golden Boy offered Morales the chance to fight me in September but he declined the fight."

Barrera believes he has underlined that he is the best Mexican fighter of his generation already, and said he will fight Morales for a fourth time because of the fans.

"Morales has said 2006 is the year of his revenge but how can he seek revenge when the best he can do is (draw level) at 2-2?," Barrera smiled.

"My victory (to go 2-1) was one of the most important in my career because I won the trilogy. Boxing history is filled with trilogies and I won mine with Morales. Revenge is not something Morales will get so easily but a fourth fight is something all the fans want to see.

"It is a sportsmanlike rivalry," Barrera smiled. "Oscar is promoting fighters differently, he is doing it differently and he has a style of promoting that is new and exciting. Whenever Golden Boy fights a Top Rank fighter we win so we don't take the rivalry that seriously. Golden Boy will come out on top on Top Rank again in 2006 when I go 3-1 against Morales."

Source: http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=18120

Memorex
12-07-2005, 08:53 PM
barrera knows whats hes talking about :D

SuckaPunch
12-07-2005, 08:55 PM
barrera knows whats hes talking about :D

Read the italicized part :D

Memorex
12-07-2005, 09:00 PM
Read the italicized part :D
lmao, i let that slip when i was reading it the first time.

Konstantin
12-07-2005, 09:11 PM
Read the italicized part :D

Lol yea seriously. He said that cause he doesnt want to get his ass beat by Pacman again.

Memorex
12-07-2005, 09:13 PM
Lol yea seriously. He said that cause he doesnt want to get his ass beat by Pacman again.
сделал u знают, что я могу говорить по-русски

Konstantin
12-07-2005, 09:28 PM
сделал u знают, что я могу говорить по-русски

lol not quite but very nice. Cool shiot. There are a decent amount of Russian speakers on this forum (compared to how many I thought there'd be).

What you said was, "I did and they know, that I can speak russian"

Memorex
12-07-2005, 09:31 PM
lol
i almost got it :cool:

Rapid_Speed
12-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Definitely makes sense why Barrera would say that.

I don't think Morales can dominate Pacquiao any better than in the 1st fight and that was a close one.

CHICO_4LIFE
12-07-2005, 10:34 PM
god this is ganna be a good fight! i hope pacman wins so barrera can get his revenge and because if pacman wins that sets up a 3rd pacquioa / morales fight! but i also want to see morales win so morales / barrera 4 can happen, whatever the result may be im ready for an all out WAR!
good luck to both warriors.

Famoso Matador
12-07-2005, 11:03 PM
****, i like Morales but i want pac to win cause i want to see Barrera vs PAC 2 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGG

Zab Super Judah
12-07-2005, 11:20 PM
Barrera: "Morales will dominate Pacquiao"

By Ant Evans: One of the super fights already inked for 2006 is the January 21 rematch between Erik Morales and Manny Pacquiao, which will emanate from the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. Their 12 rounder in March 2005 was an early contender for Fight of the Year (and will certainly be on the ballot for SecondsOut's Annual Reader Awards next week) with Morales hanging on to take a close but deserved points decision.

But Pacquiao engendered much sympathy in defeat.. The Pac-Man fought under less than optimum conditions, what with him in the middle of an ugly divorce from Murad Muhammad, the promoter who not only signed away Pacquiao's right to wear his favoured Reyes gloves but also took the luxury suite his hosts at the MGM Grand had provided for the fighter.

Plus, as he and trainer Freddie Roach repeatedly pointed out in the nine months since, Pacquiao rocked Morales to his boots in the championship rounds and when you throw all of that together with Morales's listless 12 round lost to unheralded Zahir Raheem in September, it is easy to understand why some bookmakers strongly favour Pacquiao to avenge the defeat next month.

However common opponent Marco Antonio Barrera, who is almost certain to fight the winner in the second half of the New Year, believes 'El Terrible' will improve on his March performance and hammer 'the Pac-Man' second time around.

"Morales will dominate in an easy fight," Barrera told SecondsOut. "I want to fight the winner of (next month's fight) and I think that will be Erik Morales. Morales is not shot, forget about his last (performance), he was not motivated, did not train hard and was fighting too heavy (weighing in as a lightweight)."

That prediction shouldn't take long-time fans by surprise. Pride often massages fighters predictions in that they will select an opponent they defeated over a fighter they lost to. That way they can say 'See? I told you my loss to that guy was a fluke because a guy I beat, beat him'.

But, whatever, fans will welcome the news that Barrera v Morales IV is indeed on the cards for the New Year.

The three-division unified world champion continued: "Actually, Golden Boy offered Morales the chance to fight me in September but he declined the fight."

Barrera believes he has underlined that he is the best Mexican fighter of his generation already, and said he will fight Morales for a fourth time because of the fans.

"Morales has said 2006 is the year of his revenge but how can he seek revenge when the best he can do is (draw level) at 2-2?," Barrera smiled.

"My victory (to go 2-1) was one of the most important in my career because I won the trilogy. Boxing history is filled with trilogies and I won mine with Morales. Revenge is not something Morales will get so easily but a fourth fight is something all the fans want to see.

"It is a sportsmanlike rivalry," Barrera smiled. "Oscar is promoting fighters differently, he is doing it differently and he has a style of promoting that is new and exciting. Whenever Golden Boy fights a Top Rank fighter we win so we don't take the rivalry that seriously. Golden Boy will come out on top on Top Rank again in 2006 when I go 3-1 against Morales."

Source: http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=18120

one reason why Barrera would say that is to make his victory over Morales look better. But in reality I think Barrera just believes that Pac doesnt have what it takes to beat El Terrible

AIR_KENG
12-07-2005, 11:26 PM
Barrera believes he has underlined that he is the best Mexican fighter of his generation already, and said he will fight Morales for a fourth time because of the fans.

same old story... fighting for the fans... yeah right... the only fighters i know who thinks od his fans are erik and manny... marco wants to have a fourth fight becase he knows he has a lot more chance to beat erik than him beating manny... he always says this, he wants to fight erik beacuse the fans want it... hasn't he heard of the rematch with pac that everybody wants to see? he is so blinded by his urge to win fights he has figured out...

psychopath
12-07-2005, 11:38 PM
:D This is as simple as ABC. Barrera is praying for a Morales victory so that he won't have to face Pacman again. :D Pacman is Barrera's worst nightmare up to the present.

MetalVomit
12-07-2005, 11:50 PM
Barrera doesnt know what he's talking about.

mr. bojangles
12-07-2005, 11:59 PM
Barrera fought both, he sure knows what he's talking about. But, he's pissing on his pants on the thought of fighting Pacquiao again.

scap
12-08-2005, 12:00 AM
The boxing world owed MAB a big debt of gratitude after his win over Hamed-hell I went and saw him fight live twice after his big victory over the prince, I was becoming a real Marco fan but not anymore.

I loved watching PAC punish him, MAB wanted to quit as early as the 3rd round. Im tired of reading about a 4th fight between him and Erik Morales, Im ****ing tired of it.

Has anyone ever heard Erik Morales or MAB mention the name Juan Manuel Marquez? Someone needs to tell MAB that this isnt Baseball and him and Morales are not fighting a best of seven series here.

Im rooting for Pacman because if he wins I want to see what MAB's next move is...I honestly believe he will never fight PAC again.

Pretty damn obvious why he is in EM's corner-he wants a 4th fight, then a 5th then a 6th etc!

mr. bojangles
12-08-2005, 12:23 AM
Has anyone ever heard Erik Morales or MAB mention the name Juan Manuel Marquez?



been wonderin the same thing.......... :confused:

AIR_KENG
12-08-2005, 12:31 AM
The boxing world owed MAB a big debt of gratitude after his win over Hamed-hell I went and saw him fight live twice after his big victory over the prince, I was becoming a real Marco fan but not anymore.

I loved watching PAC punish him, MAB wanted to quit as early as the 3rd round. Im tired of reading about a 4th fight between him and Erik Morales, Im ****ing tired of it.

Has anyone ever heard Erik Morales or MAB mention the name Juan Manuel Marquez? Someone needs to tell MAB that this isnt Baseball and him and Morales are not fighting a best of seven series here.

Im rooting for Pacman because if he wins I want to see what MAB's next move is...I honestly believe he will never fight PAC again.

Pretty damn obvious why he is in EM's corner-he wants a 4th fight, then a 5th then a 6th etc!
haha! barrera-morales on a seven game series, mwahahaha... this is funny... :D

SuckaPunch
12-08-2005, 12:38 AM
The way I see this article/interview, MAB's intention seems to be praising Morales that he will beat Pacquiao again. Think again.

Look at it closely...MAB mentioned that Erik chickened out when they offered him to fight in September. He keeps rubbing it in Erik's face that he won the trilogy. And finally, MAB's just "self-proclaimed" that he is one of the best Mexican fighters of this generation.

MAB's real intention for this article/interview is NOT to praise Morales but to downplay him instead.

AIR_KENG
12-08-2005, 12:53 AM
The way I see this article/interview, MAB's intention seems to be praising Morales that he will beat Pacquiao again. Think again.

Look at it closely...MAB mentioned that Erik chickened out when they offered him to fight in September. He keeps rubbing it in Erik's face that he won the trilogy. And finally, MAB's just "self-proclaimed" that he is one of the best Mexican fighters of this generation.

MAB's real intention for this article/interview is NOT to praise Morales but to downplay him instead.
works both ways in my opinion... he wants to fight erik for the fourth time so he says erik will (and should) win to set it up... and downplaying him on the process to flare up erik more that he should win the rematch to make the fourth match between them... sounds confusing? :D

Manny_P
12-08-2005, 09:54 AM
Dominate Pacquiao? I don't see that. Unless Pac do a Bernard and throws 7 punches a round.

Pac will beat Terible. I'm tired of wrtitng e-essays explainin why so lemme jest say this.

When Pac vs Morales on March 19, Pac was leading the card on round 5, by 1, the same round he got headbutted. From then on, Pac was fightin wit one eye. Let's see Motrales beat a healthy Pac.

scap
12-08-2005, 09:55 AM
works both ways in my opinion... he wants to fight erik for the fourth time so he says erik will (and should) win to set it up... and downplaying him on the process to flare up erik more that he should win the rematch to make the fourth match between them... sounds confusing? :D

No its not confusing and your exactly right, Erik hates MAB and Marco isnt gonna get a sought after 4th fight by trying to be best buds with him...ultimately he is going to get a 4th fight by 1)Morales beating PAC and 2)MAB pissing Morales off.

DiegoFuego
12-08-2005, 09:58 AM
Barrera is trying to avoid fighting Pacquiao like a ****ing *****

AIR_KENG
12-08-2005, 10:08 AM
Barrera is trying to avoid fighting Pacquiao like a ****ing *****
as a pacfan, i am starting to realize that we do not need a rematch with MAB to secure a good name for him... he beat the hell out of marco and that's history... sweet history... now all i want is for him to beat erik... erik beat him so i would like him to drop erik... :D

amaru
12-08-2005, 03:32 PM
because barrera has said he will fight the winner, i want pacman to win, this way we can see if barrera sticks to his word, seriously barrera is my favourite boxer of all time, he can even retire without facin pacman agin and he will still go down as a legend and a hall of fame fighter..... BUT... there will be a huge question mark if he was scared to face pacman, to me, it seems that pacquiao seems more willing and ready to fight him but barrera dont when it should be the other way round, pacman aint got nothing to prove to barrera, he beat him, its barrera who needs the redemption and the rematch to prove the distractions affected him.

baya
12-08-2005, 04:14 PM
you turds fail to view marco's point, he is the john stockton of boxing, the dirtiest yet smartest guy out there. he says this with ONE thing on his mind - to ROYALLY piss off morales. morales is, while i love the guys fighting style, one of the most classless guys in the sport. barrera knows what's been said of him by morales and his camp, but he also knows that NOTHING gets MORE under morales' skin than saying nice things about him. marco's tried punching him before and never gets the coals burning more than when he says something nice about him. c'mon you fools! and this talk of barrera being a ***** and this and that - c'mon - we're talking about ba-****en-rrera one of the premiere feather's of all time. scared of pac? please man - dudes a warrior - its circumstance - would you fight erik morales thrice? yeah, me either - he'll fight manny again, bet on it.

shemmue
12-08-2005, 04:59 PM
:D This is as simple as ABC. Barrera is praying for a Morales victory so that he won't have to face Pacman again. :D Pacman is Barrera's worst nightmare up to the present.

i agree mab is hoping that morales wins because he knows that he can win a fight with erik ...if pac wins this fight mab will find a way not to fight him .....its been over 2 yrs. since their 1st. fight and still no re-match and this stalling is not from pac's side because we know he is willing to fight anyone ....mab is ducking him like a plague ...corrales and castillo are about to get it on for the 3rd. time in less than 10 months !!!!! mab needs to step up if pac wins this fight or i will loose all respect for him ....

Parody
12-08-2005, 05:48 PM
Barrera is a good fighter, no doubt about that, but Morales would beat Barrera if the fight was to happen now, dont forgot Morales got robbed twice in the Trilogy of Morales/Barrera, Pacman beat Barrera, and Morales decisioned Pacman in a close fight which could have gone either way, If Morales can survive Pacman, no doubt he could beat Barrera by DECISION , I know styles make fights...

so here it is:

If Manny Pacquaio wins, i see it going this way:

Pacquiao will decision Morales
Pacquiao will TKO Barrera in the rematch

If Erik Morales wins, i see it going this way:

Morales will win by a close decision
Morales will decision Barrera by a close decision

But to be honest with you even though i think morales got robbed im sick of seeing morales/barrera fights now, can we have a Pacquaio/Barrera II in a Championship PLEASE? so we know whos the true champ, and so neither fighter has any excuses

AeroSixxDynamite
12-08-2005, 06:00 PM
Dominate Pacquiao? I don't see that. Unless Pac do a Bernard and throws 7 punches a round.

Pac will beat Terible. I'm tired of wrtitng e-essays explainin why so lemme jest say this.

When Pac vs Morales on March 19, Pac was leading the card on round 5, by 1, the same round he got headbutted. From then on, Pac was fightin wit one eye. Let's see Motrales beat a healthy Pac.

Erik Morales was toying with Pacquiao. See the 12th round, which was probably Pacquiao's best in the entire fight. Morales switched his stance to southpaw against a natural top notch southpaw. He did that to make the fight closer and more exciting for the fans. Dominate Pacquao? Yes sir!

TiB-WaRRiOR
12-08-2005, 08:06 PM
Barrera Is A Piece Of ****..**** Eater Or Delahoya Who Eats **** Of Hopkins..he Dead Scared Of Pac-man..thats Why He Want Morales..his Worse Nightmare To Win..he Should Be Out Of Boxing..

TiB-WaRRiOR
12-08-2005, 08:09 PM
Barrera Mothafuker Can't Don **** Against Pac-man...shea..he Got Madd Madd Madd Madd..i Mean Madd Maddd Lucky To Get A Decision Agaisnt Morales As Morales Almost Knocked The Fuk Out Of Him In The 12..morales And Pac-man Are The Greatest Warriors In Their Division..facing Anybody,anytime..unlike Barrera Who Picks Opponents To Fight Them Just Like Gaylahoya.
Regardless Of Who Wins Between Pac-man Or Morales..i Want Either Of Them To Knock The Fuk Out Of Barrera And Shut Him Up Once And For All.

SuckaPunch
12-08-2005, 08:29 PM
This article/interview exposed MAB big time, LOL. It would've been better if he kept his mouth shut :D

Agave
12-08-2005, 09:22 PM
Morales by Ko in tha 7th round!
via putiza

AIR_KENG
12-08-2005, 09:53 PM
Morales by Ko in tha 7th round!
via putiza
pac will win this one regardless of barrera's banter

Manny_P
12-08-2005, 11:22 PM
Barrera is a poosy scared of Manny! If it wan't really an off night when he lost he'd be sayin " I wish Pac wins so I can fight him and prove that I had off night". Poosy Barrera has wishing Morales WINS fo Christmas present. Poosy!

Chups
12-08-2005, 11:51 PM
Erik Morales was toying with Pacquiao. See the 12th round, which was probably Pacquiao's best in the entire fight. Morales switched his stance to southpaw against a natural top notch southpaw. He did that to make the fight closer and more exciting for the fans. Dominate Pacquao? Yes sir!


Actually he did that coz he noticed that Pacman has only 1 good eye. :D

Tha Greatest
12-09-2005, 12:32 AM
I really think Pacquiao damaged Barrera psycologically, that kind of behind can hurt you mentally, hopefully Pacquiao wins so Barrera won't have more excuses!

Go Barrera!

Papa Ace
01-15-2006, 09:06 AM
i agree mab is hoping that morales wins because he knows that he can win a fight with erik ...if pac wins this fight mab will find a way not to fight him .....its been over 2 yrs. since their 1st. fight and still no re-match and this stalling is not from pac's side because we know he is willing to fight anyone ....mab is ducking him like a plague ...corrales and castillo are about to get it on for the 3rd. time in less than 10 months !!!!! mab needs to step up if pac wins this fight or i will loose all respect for him ....


**** that MAB comment. Yeah he's dodging Pac by saying that. You can tell by the way he said it--- to dominate an "easy" fight. Even EM doesnt believe its going to be easy for him, how can MAB even contemplate on staying that? He wants Erik to win because Pac would be the No.1 and mandatory contender, then if EM wins there'll never be an EM-MAB 4. The people are already tired of it and there are too many great fights to see than that. MAB is simply too afraid to stake his belts right now with Pac. And even though there'd be a EM-MAB 4, and provided he loses to EM, he'd still come clean coz it will just be a tie (2-2). It will be more, i mean very, damaging should he engage with Pac, and lose again. What a *****. :booty:

The Wire
01-15-2006, 09:10 AM
I dont think you can call the guy a ***** but I definitely think that he is seriously hoping he doesnt fight EM or Pac again. I think both would have a good chance of beating him and I think he thinks that too. He's even worried about fighting Jesus Chavez, a solid fighter but one that Morales easily outpointed. He thinks Chavez would be too heavy for him. So where does he turn? Alex Arthur!?

flipside
01-15-2006, 09:18 AM
barera wants EM to win so that he can have something of a proof that he had an off night when he and pac fought, he was beaten by pac, he bet Em twice, ergo he can take on pac, but i know MAb is afraid of pac, he been runnin and duckin since 2003, makin excuses left and right, if he really wants to prove the first fight wrong his camp should have worked on makin a rematch, not making excuses everytime they win against a fuccing nobody like fana and peden

Barera aint ****, he will always be remembered for getting his ass kicked all night by the little guy from the islands

eazy_mas
01-15-2006, 10:23 AM
Barrera talks now because he wants some attention.
Attention give Publicity
Publicity brings money

Why does not Barrera fight Zahir Raheem for now

MlLkMan
01-15-2006, 10:38 AM
MAB is just trying to get some spotlight.

flipside
01-15-2006, 10:42 AM
coz right now MAb is boring

aint worth ****

i think everyone in golden boy is done

dep_violator
01-15-2006, 10:54 AM
Barrera is a poosy scared of Manny! If it wan't really an off night when he lost he'd be sayin " I wish Pac wins so I can fight him and prove that I had off night". Poosy Barrera has wishing Morales WINS fo Christmas present. Poosy!
Welcome back Manny_P.

If Barrera aint afraid of PAC, the fight should have been done years ago. Now that Barrera is a not selling his PPV and he's quickly being edged in the spotlight between 2 fearless fighters Morales and PAC, he thinks he can still grab some candy.

Too bad for him.

The Wire
01-15-2006, 12:02 PM
Why isnt Barrera chasing pac more than he is? He's praying Erik beats Pac cos then the interest in MAB vs Pac dwindles a bit more.

flipside
01-15-2006, 12:22 PM
Welcome back Manny_P.If Barrera aint afraid of PAC, the fight should have been done years ago. Now that Barrera is a not selling his PPV and he's quickly being edged in the spotlight between 2 fearless fighters Morales and PAC, he thinks he can still grab some candy.

Too bad for him.


hes still banned dude

Manfredo Jr
01-15-2006, 12:51 PM
Barrera: "Morales will dominate Pacquiao"

By Ant Evans: One of the super fights already inked for 2006 is the January 21 rematch between Erik Morales and Manny Pacquiao, which will emanate from the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. Their 12 rounder in March 2005 was an early contender for Fight of the Year (and will certainly be on the ballot for SecondsOut's Annual Reader Awards next week) with Morales hanging on to take a close but deserved points decision.

But Pacquiao engendered much sympathy in defeat.. The Pac-Man fought under less than optimum conditions, what with him in the middle of an ugly divorce from Murad Muhammad, the promoter who not only signed away Pacquiao's right to wear his favoured Reyes gloves but also took the luxury suite his hosts at the MGM Grand had provided for the fighter.

Plus, as he and trainer Freddie Roach repeatedly pointed out in the nine months since, Pacquiao rocked Morales to his boots in the championship rounds and when you throw all of that together with Morales's listless 12 round lost to unheralded Zahir Raheem in September, it is easy to understand why some bookmakers strongly favour Pacquiao to avenge the defeat next month.

However common opponent Marco Antonio Barrera, who is almost certain to fight the winner in the second half of the New Year, believes 'El Terrible' will improve on his March performance and hammer 'the Pac-Man' second time around.

"Morales will dominate in an easy fight," Barrera told SecondsOut. "I want to fight the winner of (next month's fight) and I think that will be Erik Morales. Morales is not shot, forget about his last (performance), he was not motivated, did not train hard and was fighting too heavy (weighing in as a lightweight)."

That prediction shouldn't take long-time fans by surprise. Pride often massages fighters predictions in that they will select an opponent they defeated over a fighter they lost to. That way they can say 'See? I told you my loss to that guy was a fluke because a guy I beat, beat him'.

But, whatever, fans will welcome the news that Barrera v Morales IV is indeed on the cards for the New Year.

The three-division unified world champion continued: "Actually, Golden Boy offered Morales the chance to fight me in September but he declined the fight."

Barrera believes he has underlined that he is the best Mexican fighter of his generation already, and said he will fight Morales for a fourth time because of the fans.

"Morales has said 2006 is the year of his revenge but how can he seek revenge when the best he can do is (draw level) at 2-2?," Barrera smiled.

"My victory (to go 2-1) was one of the most important in my career because I won the trilogy. Boxing history is filled with trilogies and I won mine with Morales. Revenge is not something Morales will get so easily but a fourth fight is something all the fans want to see.

"It is a sportsmanlike rivalry," Barrera smiled. "Oscar is promoting fighters differently, he is doing it differently and he has a style of promoting that is new and exciting. Whenever Golden Boy fights a Top Rank fighter we win so we don't take the rivalry that seriously. Golden Boy will come out on top on Top Rank again in 2006 when I go 3-1 against Morales."

Source: http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=18120

i hope he is correct cos i have a few bets on morales :cool:

TheEvilSaint
01-15-2006, 01:01 PM
i wish morales would get over the suckerpunch tha that barerra gave him before the first fight and just accept barerra's respect. MAB has offered to apologize but erik refused.

im pretty sure that MAB just wants the mexican fighter to win. he wants revenge for MAB's KO loss to manny and he wants erik to deliver it.

flipside
01-15-2006, 01:27 PM
i wish morales would get over the suckerpunch tha that barerra gave him before the first fight and just accept barerra's respect. MAB has offered to apologize but erik refused.

im pretty sure that MAB just wants the mexican fighter to win. he wants revenge for MAB's KO loss to manny and he wants erik to deliver it.

barera wants erik to avenge his loss to pac? he a big man he can do that himself except if he knows inside that he cant beat manny

dep_violator
01-15-2006, 01:58 PM
i wish morales would get over the suckerpunch tha that barerra gave him before the first fight and just accept barerra's respect. MAB has offered to apologize but erik refused.

im pretty sure that MAB just wants the mexican fighter to win. he wants revenge for MAB's KO loss to manny and he wants erik to deliver it.
Don't apologize to Morales coz if PAC wins and I think he will, but just put it in this way... If PAC wins, PAC will go for him and he will train just as hard, if not harder for this fight.

The classroom lesson PAC gave him a few years ago, would look like child's play this time around. PAC has a silent grudge on him.

Insulting PAC and calling him Morales' leftovers when he doesn't even showed disrespect towards that coward's ass will be MAB's undoing.

flipside
01-15-2006, 02:24 PM
barera mad at pac coz he got beaten by a movie star, which pac is

Easy-E
01-15-2006, 03:30 PM
pac made no excuses after the fight, yet the article continues to make excuses for him
that annoys the **** out of me

dep_violator
01-15-2006, 10:17 PM
barera mad at pac coz he got beaten by a movie star, which pac is
Yeah, the beating really looked like as if it was in the movies. lol!

morancito
01-16-2006, 07:06 PM
And finally, MAB's just "self-proclaimed" that he is one of the best Mexican fighters of this generation.

Um, self-proclaimed? Everyone who knows a little bit of boxing knows that Barrera is one of the best, if not THE best Mexican boxer since JCC. That is not self-proclaimed, it is acclaimed.

morancito
01-16-2006, 07:17 PM
coz right now MAb is boring

aint worth ****

LO!!!

If he "ain't worth ****", then PacMan most important victory becomes irrelevant. You know, cuz he fought someone who isn't worth ****.

And it's incredible how Pacfans can give MAB **** because he fought a "nobody" in Peden, yet forget that PacMan has also had his share of nobodies, like the last one. Peden at least was considered a contender by most experts.

Being the best of the trio, MAB has earned the right of fighting the winner of Morales/Pacman II. So consider the Jan. 21 bout an eliminator to fight the true super feather champ. That's all it is.

dep_violator
01-17-2006, 01:06 AM
LO!!!

If he "ain't worth ****", then PacMan most important victory becomes irrelevant. You know, cuz he fought someone who isn't worth ****.

And it's incredible how Pacfans can give MAB **** because he fought a "nobody" in Peden, yet forget that PacMan has also had his share of nobodies, like the last one. Peden at least was considered a contender by most experts.

Being the best of the trio, MAB has earned the right of fighting the winner of Morales/Pacman II. So consider the Jan. 21 bout an eliminator to fight the true super feather champ. That's all it is.
MAB has earned nothing kid. f anything he earned the nickname ***** of Hoya.

PAC fought a noob not because he wanted to but because of neccessity kid. If anything, he has proven himself as the most fearless fighter ever to grace that division. He took the 3 Mexicans without hesitation, the fight with the noobs was a necessity. The first one happened because ***** Marquez overpriced himself. The second was just a tune-up fight for Morales.

PAC already gave ***** MAB several challenges in the past and when he hears those challenges, he goes running to Hoya's skirt.

DiegoFuego
01-17-2006, 01:08 AM
Why does Barrera always say Morales will beat Pacquiao up? Wishful thinking maybe? Maybe Barrera knows he can win against Morales if he breaks his nose early like last time, but he knows he could never beat Pacquiao.

dep_violator
01-17-2006, 01:09 AM
Um, self-proclaimed? Everyone who knows a little bit of boxing knows that Barrera is one of the best, if not THE best Mexican boxer since JCC. That is not self-proclaimed, it is acclaimed.
Acclaimed? lol! Whoever rises up in the top of this division will be the best and will deserve that title.

PAC, Morales, Marquez and MAB are the names which are prominent. In order to be an all-time great. One of them must fight the rest and emerge the winner.

May I remind you that Barrera is ducking PAC for 3 years now.

flanker
01-17-2006, 03:20 AM
LOL@Barrera ... this guy is a loser.. he hides in the @$$ of GAY LA HOYA for years when PAC called him out!!!!

kg21mvp
01-17-2006, 03:34 AM
barrera knows whats hes talking about :D
man, barrera dcxdont know what hes talking about cause he aint got money right know because nobody wants to fight him coz aint no money in it.. hes just sour graping of the fact that pacman and morales are facing each other the 2nd time and he doesn't have a fight coming up...although he has a title but nobody is watching his fights aint nobody here that!

moy22487
01-17-2006, 03:42 AM
MAB has earned nothing kid. f anything he earned the nickname ***** of Hoya.

PAC fought a noob not because he wanted to but because of neccessity kid. If anything, he has proven himself as the most fearless fighter ever to grace that division. He took the 3 Mexicans without hesitation, the fight with the noobs was a necessity. The first one happened because ***** Marquez overpriced himself. The second was just a tune-up fight for Morales.

PAC already gave ***** MAB several challenges in the past and when he hears those challenges, he goes running to Hoya's skirt.
you do know that the fighters MAB faught were mandatorys right?or do you just follow pacman and not keep up with other things in boxing. yea mab got beat by pacman and pacman got his ass beat by morrales right now 3 of them are equals untill the winner of morrales vs pacman fight barrera then the winner will be a true champ. MAB ran and JMM over priced himself? maybe pacman is scared of what can happen to him if barrera comes in focuse and fully trained. funny the rematch with morrales was signed right away. MAB ran well why didnt pacman rematch Medgoen Singsurat when he got koed in the 3rd couse he was scared??

flanker
01-17-2006, 03:44 AM
barrera is gay!!! like gay la hoya!

AIR_KENG
01-17-2006, 03:51 AM
who cares what he says??? he'll say something and do other... typical barrera... lol... :D

dep_violator
01-17-2006, 07:30 AM
you do know that the fighters MAB faught were mandatorys right?or do you just follow pacman and not keep up with other things in boxing. yea mab got beat by pacman and pacman got his ass beat by morrales right now 3 of them are equals untill the winner of morrales vs pacman fight barrera then the winner will be a true champ. MAB ran and JMM over priced himself? maybe pacman is scared of what can happen to him if barrera comes in focuse and fully trained. funny the rematch with morrales was signed right away. MAB ran well why didnt pacman rematch Medgoen Singsurat when he got koed in the 3rd couse he was scared??
PAC scared? Oh cmon. I do admit what ever mistakes PAC has but it's nothing compared to what ***** Barrera is.

First, PAC never becked off from any fight, his reputation as a warrior is etched in stone, Barrera is a coward who has avoided PAC for 3 years now. Second, it's no issue JMM priced himself out of the fight with PAC. JMM asked for more than 750,000 when we all know that if it wasn't for PAC, he won't even get half of that.

Let's get this straight, PAC aint scared of anyone. If he's scared of ***** Barrera, then why would he challenge him several times already all these years and Barrera aint speaking a word of it?

Your argument is too illogical.

flipside
01-17-2006, 07:34 AM
you do know that the fighters MAB faught were mandatorys right?or do you just follow pacman and not keep up with other things in boxing. yea mab got beat by pacman and pacman got his ass beat by morrales right now 3 of them are equals untill the winner of morrales vs pacman fight barrera then the winner will be a true champ. MAB ran and JMM over priced himself? maybe pacman is scared of what can happen to him if barrera comes in focuse and fully trained. funny the rematch with morrales was signed right away. MAB ran well why didnt pacman rematch Medgoen Singsurat when he got koed in the 3rd couse he was scared??

he lost to the thai because he was overweight and didnt eat noting for a couple days to make weight

pac aiont scared, JMM overpriced himself, MAB never challenged he just made excuses, off night crap, if it was an offnight why didnt he run after him? MAb lost right so he should be wnating a rematch and those mandatories are chumps

Cang-ipos
01-17-2006, 09:01 AM
MAB ran well why didnt pacman rematch Medgoen Singsurat when he got koed in the 3rd couse he was scared??

This is a no brainer. Yes, PAC lost that fight but you have to consider what kind of situation he went through at that time. Rematch with Singsurat? Manny has a big problem making the weight and it would be stupid for him to fight again in that division. But if a rematch is to be made irregardless of their weight, I'm sure PAC would be very much willing even with their bare hands.

I bet you only know that PAC lost that bout by TKO and nothing more or you're just trying to justify the actions and non-actions of MAB after he was mutililated by Manny.

flipside
01-17-2006, 09:05 AM
This is a no brainer. Yes, PAC lost that fight but you have to consider what kind of situation he went through at that time. Rematch with Singsurat? Manny has a big problem making the weight and it would be stupid for him to fight again in that division. But if a rematch is to be made irregardless of their weight, I'm sure PAC would be very much willing even with their bare hands.

I bet you only know that PAC lost that bout by TKO and nothing more or you're just trying to justify the actions and non-actions of MAB after he was mutililated by Manny.

he's just ahtin dude, he knows MAB aint stepped up to the plate and challenge pac in any way, i though he was an assasin but he just hidin right now, no one wants to fight him, MAb's ppv dont earn money, on the other hand, everytime it's pac's fight its a hit,

Cang-ipos
01-17-2006, 09:21 AM
he's just ahtin dude, he knows MAB aint stepped up to the plate and challenge pac in any way, i though he was an assasin but he just hidin right now, no one wants to fight him, MAb's ppv dont earn money, on the other hand, everytime it's pac's fight its a hit,

Ya I know, but sometimes it becomes too annoying.

flipside
01-17-2006, 09:25 AM
Ya I know, but sometimes it becomes too annoying.

it does

they like to hate

psychopath
01-17-2006, 04:54 PM
Straighten up your brains HATERS!

Mab's antic of refusing to fight Pacquiao is taking it's toll on him. He is being left out of the big picture because of this and he is getting desperate reason why he issues statements and all these media press releases everytime Pacquiao fights. Remember JMM? Haven't you realized what happens to fighter's without balls?

Pacquaio is Barrera's WORST NIGHTMARE up to present and no amount of NUTHUGGING CRAPS and BULL****S can cover that FACT.

grayfist
01-17-2006, 07:31 PM
After the Pac meeting, Barrera made significant changes in his crew, including his promoter--went from Arum to Oscar, who quickly set him up for three easy fights and one big one, Morales. Other than the Morales date, Barrera has shown that he cannot draw decent PPV crowds on his own. Golden Boy promo, which is spewing everything recently read on print on behalf of MAB and fearful that their ward is being left out, has to make noise if only to remind people that there's a MAB that is part of that holy trinity. It's Golden Boy promotions' job to keep Barrera in the mix. Not to do so would consign Barrera to the stature of also-runs, whose list is currently headed by JMM.

What the spinmeisters of Golden Boy conveniently omitted in their prediction that they have put into MAB's mouth is that while Barrera won twice over Morales, he never managed to dominate in any of their three encounters. On the other hand, while Pacquiao clearly lost to Morales, there was no dominance-- both the judges score and the widely held view that it was a contender for Fight of the Year (and had Castillo and Corrales stayed home, it would have been), are raised in support of the opinion. A one- sided fight cannot be on the short list for Fight of the Year.

The Pac- Barrera meeting however was a mauling. Though a bit mitigated by the ref's missed calls, all of which favored MAB, it was nonetheless a mauling that had to end before the scheduled distance. MAB's corner shares the view that it was truly that: one of them (the brother?) clambered up the ring to protect MAB from anymore of the same.

So, MAB was ill-prepared for that fight, it is often claimed. Well, the rematch option was there for him to pick up for two years (late '03- late '05). Instead, he took on Fahna, a faded Ayala and a sparmate, Peden. Of course, Morales too.

In the meantime, what did Pac do? He met Morales and after losing, he immediately craved and got a rematch, stopping by only to dispose of Velasquez in a tune-up. Pac didn't take his sweet time.

Pac, Shaw and company could have pointed in the direction of Raheem and played it cute, saying, "Take care of your unfinished business with him first. Then, we talk." Instead, just minutes after Morales lost to Raheem, Shaw confirmed to the Morales camp that the rematch was what Manny wanted. Thus, we have the 21st coming up.

If, and this is a big IF, Pac gets mauled by Erik, it cannot be said that he never worked his a___ to try Erik again. The quest may, then, be called foolish, but never cowardly. Golden Boy Promotions web-spinners take note: that cannot be said of MAB with regard Pacquiao.

moy22487
01-17-2006, 07:34 PM
he's just ahtin dude, he knows MAB aint stepped up to the plate and challenge pac in any way, i though he was an assasin but he just hidin right now, no one wants to fight him, MAb's ppv dont earn money, on the other hand, everytime it's pac's fight its a hit,

its a hit because of the people who he fights. if he didnt fight morales or jmm or barrera you think he would be selling out ppv that easy?

moy22487
01-17-2006, 07:37 PM
it does

they like to hate

you know your hating on MAB right? i like pacman he is great. but i like MAB more. you just hating streight out. keep it up

BBFM
01-17-2006, 08:16 PM
as a pacfan, i am starting to realize that we do not need a rematch with MAB to secure a good name for him... he beat the hell out of marco and that's history... sweet history... now all i want is for him to beat erik... erik beat him so i would like him to drop erik... :D


fan's like this make me want to see pacman get ktfo so biased and retarded gl to pacman saturday. :boxing:

dep_violator
01-17-2006, 11:05 PM
After the Pac meeting, Barrera made significant changes in his crew, including his promoter--went from Arum to Oscar, who quickly set him up for three easy fights and one big one, Morales. Other than the Morales date, Barrera has shown that he cannot draw decent PPV crowds on his own. Golden Boy promo, which is spewing everything recently read on print on behalf of MAB and fearful that their ward is being left out, has to make noise if only to remind people that there's a MAB that is part of that holy trinity. It's Golden Boy promotions' job to keep Barrera in the mix. Not to do so would consign Barrera to the stature of also-runs, whose list is currently headed by JMM.

What the spinmeisters of Golden Boy conveniently omitted in their prediction that they have put into MAB's mouth is that while Barrera won twice over Morales, he never managed to dominate in any of their three encounters. On the other hand, while Pacquiao clearly lost to Morales, there was no dominance-- both the judges score and the widely held view that it was a contender for Fight of the Year (and had Castillo and Corrales stayed home, it would have been), are raised in support of the opinion. A one- sided fight cannot be on the short list for Fight of the Year.

The Pac- Barrera meeting however was a mauling. Though a bit mitigated by the ref's missed calls, all of which favored MAB, it was nonetheless a mauling that had to end before the scheduled distance. MAB's corner shares the view that it was truly that: one of them (the brother?) clambered up the ring to protect MAB from anymore of the same.

So, MAB was ill-prepared for that fight, it is often claimed. Well, the rematch option was there for him to pick up for two years (late '03- late '05). Instead, he took on Fahna, a faded Ayala and a sparmate, Peden. Of course, Morales too.

In the meantime, what did Pac do? He met Morales and after losing, he immediately craved and got a rematch, stopping by only to dispose of Velasquez in a tune-up. Pac didn't take his sweet time.

Pac, Shaw and company could have pointed in the direction of Raheem and played it cute, saying, "Take care of your unfinished business with him first. Then, we talk." Instead, just minutes after Morales lost to Raheem, Shaw confirmed to the Morales camp that the rematch was what Manny wanted. Thus, we have the 21st coming up.

If, and this is a big IF, Pac gets mauled by Erik, it cannot be said that he never worked his a___ to try Erik again. The quest may, then, be called foolish, but never cowardly. Golden Boy Promotions web-spinners take note: that cannot be said of MAB with regard Pacquiao.
Exactly! Well done!

PAC is going on a rampage taking on the elites of his class.

Barrera is a damn ***** fighting buddy sparmates and noobs.

And Barrera is now quickly becoming a "has-been". lol!

dep_violator
01-17-2006, 11:07 PM
you know your hating on MAB right? i like pacman he is great. but i like MAB more. you just hating streight out. keep it up
We hate a coward and a ***** who likes to insult PAC and when PAC challenges him that if he's man enough he should back up his insult with action. And what does coward Barrera do?

He goes running to Hoya's skirt at 100 mph.

dep_violator
01-17-2006, 11:09 PM
Straighten up your brains HATERS!

Mab's antic of refusing to fight Pacquiao is taking it's toll on him. He is being left out of the big picture because of this and he is getting desperate reason why he issues statements and all these media press releases everytime Pacquiao fights. Remember JMM? Haven't you realized what happens to fighter's without balls?

Pacquaio is Barrera's WORST NIGHTMARE up to present and no amount of NUTHUGGING CRAPS and BULL****S can cover that FACT.
Agreed. Both are sluggers but PAC has everything stacked up so high in his favor you would puke. lol!

PAC has way too fast hands for MAB. MAB isn't a finesse boxer but another slugger who will get his brains squashed if ever they meet again. PAC has a silent grudge on him for insulting him.

COwards and ******* like JMM and Barrera get crumbs while warriors like Morales and PAC gets the full dish.

psychopath
01-18-2006, 07:18 AM
you know your hating on MAB right? i like pacman he is great. but i like MAB more. you just hating streight out. keep it up


No no no buddy we are not hating MAB. This bashing is just a reaction to all the BULL crap press releases that MAB is making. If he can just do what comes out of his mouth then he'll earn a lot more of respect.

He can put up or shut up.

psychopath
01-18-2006, 07:22 AM
fan's like this make me want to see pacman get ktfo so biased and retarded gl to pacman saturday. :boxing:

So biased and retarded? :) The guy posted a logical and rational arguement. If you found that retarded you must be sooooo DUMB amigo.

If you want to contradict him then present your own arguement. It's that simple. :cool:

AIR_KENG
01-18-2006, 08:05 AM
fan's like this make me want to see pacman get ktfo so biased and retarded gl to pacman saturday. :boxing:
well i was surprised i was the one you quote! what was bias about that??? pac DID BEAT marco... erik BEAT pac... where's the bias???

lol... fans like these need to shut up because they accuse others of being biased yet they are the ones being biased...