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Mars Volta
05-16-2012, 11:21 PM
Salgado = underrated

roman gonzalez = overrated

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Primera
05-16-2012, 11:59 PM
Underrated = Dinamita

If Pacroid is p4p #1 and Godquez beat Pacquiao two...possibly three times, then he should be #1

el.azteca
05-17-2012, 12:00 AM
I dont think salgado underrated. I think he has great power and good skills. But he seems to fold under pressure. He struggled with honorio that says alot even with that cut. Over rated are gonzalez who fights nothing but bums and moreno. Sure he has some skills but people over rate him like he was the next coming of pernell.

Cleto_Reyes
05-17-2012, 12:45 AM
Humberto soto has always been underrated....

RIZO24
05-17-2012, 01:36 AM
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. is so underrated, He handily beat Rubio who many people thought so highly of when he KO Lemiux, IMo he will also beat Andy Lee and will give Sergio Martinez problems.. Gamboa is so overrated, people talk about him on here like he is the next Mayweather or something, The dude ducked Juan Manuel Lopez and Brandon Rios and ran all night long from Orlando Salido, he is talented nut will get exposed soon just like Juan MA Lopez got exposed..

MANIAC310
05-17-2012, 01:46 AM
Underrated : Godquez, Chavez jr, La Zorrita, Canelo, Siri, Abril

Overrated: Canleo (by the media) Cotto, Dulorme, Rios, Lara

Mars Volta
05-17-2012, 01:51 AM
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. is so underrated, He handily beat Rubio who many people thought so highly of when he KO Lemiux, IMo he will also beat Andy Lee and will give Sergio Martinez problems.. Gamboa is so overrated, people talk about him on here like he is the next Mayweather or something, The dude ducked Juan Manuel Lopez and Brandon Rios and ran all night long from Orlando Salido, he is talented nut will get exposed soon just like Juan MA Lopez got exposed..

gamboa whupped siri's ass

Mars Volta
05-17-2012, 01:55 AM
I dont think salgado underrated. I think he has great power and good skills. But he seems to fold under pressure. He struggled with honorio that says alot even with that cut. Over rated are gonzalez who fights nothing but bums and moreno. Sure he has some skills but people over rate him like he was the next coming of pernell.

gonazlez is extremely overrated

chiguy91
05-17-2012, 02:24 AM
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. is so underrated, He handily beat Rubio who many people thought so highly of when he KO Lemiux, IMo he will also beat Andy Lee and will give Sergio Martinez problems.. Gamboa is so overrated, people talk about him on here like he is the next Mayweather or something, The dude ducked Juan Manuel Lopez and Brandon Rios and ran all night long from Orlando Salido, he is talented nut will get exposed soon just like Juan MA Lopez got exposed..

chavez is super ****in huge when it comes to being a middleweight. he basically laid on rubio and used his size to win. i seriously think he is on something. not performance enhancing drugs or anything, but some type of weight loss stuff to help him make weight on fridays. i don't think he is talented at all. i think he is just blessed with his dad's chin and has a size advantage over everyone at 160. i think guys like quillin and golovkin pound his face in, and fighters like pirog and martinez school him. but being as he's so big he'll make it look difficult. when he eventually moves up to 168 or 175 is when we'll see what he's made of (cause i don't think he'll fight another top contender like golovkin or titleholder like pirog at 160).

Humberto soto has always been underrated....

i always saw him as overrated. everyone always made him out to be a beast even though he never really faced a huge name. i enjoyed his fights with antillon and stuff but recently he hasn't done anything at all, and he was in some good competitive divisions (135 & 140). it's until now that he is facing someone pretty good. i still like watching him fight but i just never understood all the talk about him. soto and angulo, those two guys seem like they could have and still could do so much more then they have but still get talked about as beasts like they're facing top fighter after top fighter.

as for underrated, i'd say miguel vazquez and anselmo moreno.

vazquez is not the most entertaining fighter but he has good boxing fundamentals. he can control the fight, fight at a distance, and has a good jab. only thing about him is that he hasn't fought that many names or been in publicized fights.
moreno is the man, i don't know why you guys are hating. the guy is an established champ. darchinyan gave mares a tough fight and moreno embarrassed him. uses the ring, has good counter punching, i would love to see mares/moreno go down but i know gbp won't put mares in there. moreno needs guys like mares, rigondeaux, and nishioka so he can really be recognized within the boxing world.

MalikKnucklez
05-17-2012, 02:54 AM
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. is so underrated, He handily beat Rubio who many people thought so highly of when he KO Lemiux, IMo he will also beat Andy Lee and will give Sergio Martinez problems.. Gamboa is so overrated, people talk about him on here like he is the next Mayweather or something, The dude ducked Juan Manuel Lopez and Brandon Rios and ran all night long from Orlando Salido, he is talented nut will get exposed soon just like Juan MA Lopez got exposed..

1. U talkin out ya ass and it's becoming more & more obvious the more you post. The same way u rated Moreno and Gonzalez higher than Gamboa based on "skill" and not the guys they fought, but ranked Gamboa lower despite his "skill" and the guys he DIDN'T fight. lol, U even rated Salido above Gamboa, a guy Gamboa BEAT. we all know why ur preferences are what they are, bro, and none of em have to do with the reasons u state. u couldn't hide ur bias with a cloak the size of Mexico. lol

2. Gamboa called out Juan Manuel Lopez countless times, and even after 2 of his fights. One of them was in front of his face during a post-fight interview where Juanma gave the run-around and said it was up to his management. TopRank protected Juanma from Gamboa and then "fed" Juanma Siri thinkin that Siri was gonna be a cake-walk stylistically. If we saw what a world class pressure fighter with above-average boxing skill can do to Juanma Lopez, what makes u think an explosive & more athletically gifted pressure fighter with exceptional boxing skill won't completely annihialate Lopez?

3. Re-watch Gamboa and Salido before u keep spewin dat bulls**t . I'll give u all my points if u can show me a round where Gamboa "ran" from Salido. Salido got his motherf**kin ass handed to him in that fight and barely made it out the 12th round. He was outworked, outpunched, outlanded and outclassed. F**k outta here

4. And if Gamboa is to be exposed, it definitely isn't gonna be at the hands of bum ass Brandon Rios, who's overrated ass got exposed by an awkward feather-fisted C list fighter.

MalikKnucklez
05-17-2012, 03:02 AM
Anyway, i like Chavez Jr...but its hard to say whether he's overrated or underrated, lol, he's a polarizing figure.

My list;

Overrated: Erislandy Lara, Roman Gonzalez, Thomas Dulorme, Brandon Rios

Underrated: Orlando Salido (by non-Mexicans), Miguel Vasquez, and Yoan Pablo Hernandez.

Luffy
05-17-2012, 03:13 AM
miguel vazquez is the most underrated fighter he has world class potential and hes got some pretty solid wins for the stage that his career is in right now he should go for the very top of lightweight either by the end of this year or early next year at the latest. for me hes seasoned, skilled, smart, talented enough to beat everyone at lightweight

chiguy91
05-17-2012, 03:20 AM
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yeah, gamboa did what he could to make a lopez fight. it was arum who took long too make it, trying to 'marinate' it.

MalikKnucklez
05-17-2012, 03:29 AM
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yeah, gamboa did what he could to make a lopez fight. it was arum who took long too make it, trying to 'marinate' it.

The idea was to set them up against each other after they both faced Salido. But that s**t didn't go down as Arum planned. If Juanma would've won that first fight against Siri, Siri would have never been granted a rematch.

Cleto_Reyes
05-17-2012, 10:15 AM
chavez is super ****in huge when it comes to being a middleweight. he basically laid on rubio and used his size to win. i seriously think he is on something. not performance enhancing drugs or anything, but some type of weight loss stuff to help him make weight on fridays. i don't think he is talented at all. i think he is just blessed with his dad's chin and has a size advantage over everyone at 160. i think guys like quillin and golovkin pound his face in, and fighters like pirog and martinez school him. but being as he's so big he'll make it look difficult. when he eventually moves up to 168 or 175 is when we'll see what he's made of (cause i don't think he'll fight another top contender like golovkin or titleholder like pirog at 160).



i always saw him as overrated. everyone always made him out to be a beast even though he never really faced a huge name. i enjoyed his fights with antillon and stuff but recently he hasn't done anything at all, and he was in some good competitive divisions (135 & 140). it's until now that he is facing someone pretty good. i still like watching him fight but i just never understood all the talk about him. soto and angulo, those two guys seem like they could have and still could do so much more then they have but still get talked about as beasts like they're facing top fighter after top fighter.

as for underrated, i'd say miguel vazquez and anselmo moreno.

vazquez is not the most entertaining fighter but he has good boxing fundamentals. he can control the fight, fight at a distance, and has a good jab. only thing about him is that he hasn't fought that many names or been in publicized fights.
moreno is the man, i don't know why you guys are hating. the guy is an established champ. darchinyan gave mares a tough fight and moreno embarrassed him. uses the ring, has good counter punching, i would love to see mares/moreno go down but i know gbp won't put mares in there. moreno needs guys like mares, rigondeaux, and nishioka so he can really be recognized within the boxing world.

Really? i've never heard anyone make him out to be anything. He's always fighting on undercards no one here hardly ever talks about zorrita that i have seen.

Cleto_Reyes
05-17-2012, 10:16 AM
miguel vazquez is the most underrated fighter he has world class potential and hes got some pretty solid wins for the stage that his career is in right now he should go for the very top of lightweight either by the end of this year or early next year at the latest. for me hes seasoned, skilled, smart, talented enough to beat everyone at lightweight

Agreed..........

RIZO24
05-17-2012, 12:22 PM
1. U talkin out ya ass and it's becoming more & more obvious the more you post. The same way u rated Moreno and Gonzalez higher than Gamboa based on "skill" and not the guys they fought, but ranked Gamboa lower despite his "skill" and the guys he DIDN'T fight. lol, U even rated Salido above Gamboa, a guy Gamboa BEAT. we all know why ur preferences are what they are, bro, and none of em have to do with the reasons u state. u couldn't hide ur bias with a cloak the size of Mexico. lol

2. Gamboa called out Juan Manuel Lopez countless times, and even after 2 of his fights. One of them was in front of his face during a post-fight interview where Juanma gave the run-around and said it was up to his management. TopRank protected Juanma from Gamboa and then "fed" Juanma Siri thinkin that Siri was gonna be a cake-walk stylistically. If we saw what a world class pressure fighter with above-average boxing skill can do to Juanma Lopez, what makes u think an explosive & more athletically gifted pressure fighter with exceptional boxing skill won't completely annihialate Lopez?

3. Re-watch Gamboa and Salido before u keep spewin dat bulls**t . I'll give u all my points if u can show me a round where Gamboa "ran" from Salido. Salido got his motherf**kin ass handed to him in that fight and barely made it out the 12th round. He was outworked, outpunched, outlanded and outclassed. F**k outta here

4. And if Gamboa is to be exposed, it definitely isn't gonna be at the hands of bum ass Brandon Rios, who's overrated ass got exposed by an awkward feather-fisted C list fighter.

WTF If I was so mother****en bias then why do i have so many non-Mexicans on my LAtino P4p list?? GTFOH Like I said homie GAmboa is a beast but Imo he ducked Juan Manuel Lopez and Brandon Rios. Before the Abril fight rios was a beast in many peoples eyes, just becasue Abril beat him by holding and making it an ugly fight does not mean Rios wont KO Gamboa.. I know Rios has the capacity to walk down Gamboa and cause him a lot of problems. That being said I do not believe he can beat him because Gamboa is too fast and will outbox Rios, now if Gamboa tries to fight inside and exhange with Rios he can get KTFO.. Styles make fights homie, Abril had the style to beat Rios, so ****en what? Salido had the style to beat Juan Ma, that doesnt mean **** about Gamboa..

AP♠
05-17-2012, 01:09 PM
Julio Cesar Chavez jr. is so underrated, He handily beat Rubio who many people thought so highly of when he KO Lemiux, IMo he will also beat Andy Lee and will give Sergio Martinez problems.. Gamboa is so overrated, people talk about him on here like he is the next Mayweather or something, The dude ducked Juan Manuel Lopez and Brandon Rios and ran all night long from Orlando Salido, he is talented nut will get exposed soon just like Juan MA Lopez got exposed..



You post good here and there at times BUT this :lol1:,I know what your trying to do.

RIZO24
05-17-2012, 02:00 PM
You post good here and there at times BUT this :lol1:,I know what your trying to do.

It's just my opinion, I post what I feel.. Sometimes i just like to disagree with other people. No disrespect intended!!

Mars Volta
05-17-2012, 03:26 PM
Rigondauex is another underrated fella........donaire straight up ducked him IMO

Cuauhtémoc1520
05-17-2012, 04:23 PM
Overrated: Chavez Jr, Brandon Rios, Delhourme, JuanMa (before the salido fight)

Underrated: Salido, JMM, Humberto Soto, Rigondeux, Lara

Mars Volta
05-17-2012, 04:25 PM
Overrated: Chavez Jr, Brandon Rios, Delhourme, JuanMa (before the salido fight)

Underrated: Salido, JMM, Humberto Soto, Rigondeux, Lara
none overrate chavez jr

Cuauhtémoc1520
05-17-2012, 04:30 PM
none overrate chavez jr

The fact that he's getting the money he is for fights is overrating him because there are fans of his that truly think he deserves that status.

Fight fans like us know better but the people that shell out that money don't. I'm not hating on the kid, I just wouldn't pay to see him fight personally.

MalikKnucklez
05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
Rigondauex is another underrated fella........donaire straight up ducked him IMO

I wanted to put Rigo on my list, but he really hasn't fought anybody for me to say he's underrated...although there's no doubt in my mind Rigondeaux can clean up his division...including Nishioka.

Rigo gave it to Gamboa in the amateurs, and was technically the craftier out of all the Cubans to defect , but his fighting style is his strength & his Achilles heel...he just isn't fun to watch to the casual observer...perhaps the reason why he's viewed as underrated to some...

chiguy91
05-19-2012, 02:19 AM
never paid attention to this guy, but i had his fight with elio rojas on my dvr. finally got around to seeing it. what you guys think about jhonny gonzalez? i would love to see him in there with salido or garcia.

boricuajr23
05-19-2012, 03:47 AM
Siri , Moreno & JM Marquez - underated

Victor Ortiz, Chavez jr & a few Puerto Rican prospects - Overated

el.azteca
05-19-2012, 04:45 AM
never paid attention to this guy, but i had his fight with elio rojas on my dvr. finally got around to seeing it. what you guys think about jhonny gonzalez? i would love to see him in there with salido or garcia.

He made easy work of a top fighter. You should check him out one of the most under rated champions. I have seen many of his fights and have never seen him outboxed or behind on the scorecards. He is a great boxer with great power. Even in his loses he was winning or dominating. Against nishioka he dropped him and was winning the fight till he got caught. Same thing with penalosa. He was schooling the sht out him and penalosa landed a lucky punch to the body. I was pissed that night. If he only had a chin i wouldnt favor any body againts him.

Pacroid
05-19-2012, 08:14 PM
Canelo alvarez overrated
Siri Salcido Underated