View Full Version : can anybody under 154 beat antonio margarito?


dino
12-02-2005, 07:19 PM
mayweather and judah are better fighters but their to small for margarito in my opinon..de la hoya wont fight margarito...is their anybody under 154 who can beat margarito at this point?

Manny_P
12-02-2005, 07:21 PM
Shane Mosely..........

jack_the_rippuh
12-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Ba-****ing-rrera.

borikua
12-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Daniel Santos....Again..

michaeljackson
12-02-2005, 07:36 PM
This is a joke right?!?! You can't seriously think Margarito can beat Judah or Mayweather??? Nah, Margarito would be fighting either of these guys just for the money, because there is no way he would beat either of them.

mic573
12-02-2005, 07:52 PM
I would pick Mayweather, Castillo and Hatton to beat Margarito.

Mayweather would pick him apart.
Castillo and Hatton would both outwork him in wars.

Judah and Cotto are both 50/50. The both have the skills to beat Margarito but thier chins are questionable.

Judah would be very vunerable at all times because of his style in most fights. He's not too good defensively to fight the way he does.

Cotto however can fight patiently and outbox Margarito but if he trades he gets hurt and stopped.

Easy-E
12-02-2005, 07:55 PM
I would pick Mayweather, Castillo and Hatton to beat Margarito.

Mayweather would pick him apart.
Castillo and Hatton would both outwork him in wars.

Judah and Cotto are both 50/50. The both have the skills to beat Margarito but thier chins are questionable.

Judah would be very vunerable at all times because of his style in most fights. He's not too good defensively to fight the way he does.

Cotto however can fight patiently and outbox Margarito but if he trades he gets hurt and stopped.


i agree, some people are overrating margirito, whos biggest win was kermit cintrion
seriously, what has he done to deserve this thread

ZOSOOSOZ
12-02-2005, 08:20 PM
mayweather and judah are better fighters but their to small for margarito in my opinon..de la hoya wont fight margarito...is their anybody under 154 who can beat margarito at this point?

PBF would embarrass Margarito...and practically every other boxer under 154 lbs...

Super_Lightweight
12-02-2005, 09:16 PM
There is no overrating of Antonio Margarito. If anything it's just the opposite. Margarito has beaten some good fighters and hasn't lost at 147 in years. Hatton and Castillo wouldn't surive against him. You can't beat a man that is bigger and stronger and just as active as you at his own game. Floyd and Judah would have a chance although honestly I'd pick Tony to upset them both. Floyd in the pocket vs a bull like Tony would play into Tony's hands. Tony is no Gatti who will sit there and look at Floyd, admiring him. He will attack and make no mistake, Tony has the power the KO Floyd (and obviously Judah).

TuPrincipe
12-02-2005, 09:19 PM
i agree, some people are overrating margirito, whos biggest win was kermit cintrion
seriously, what has he done to deserve this thread

He has the lowly WBO belt and people are giving him recognition :p .

Funny to say the least.

mic573
12-02-2005, 11:03 PM
There is no overrating of Antonio Margarito. If anything it's just the opposite. Margarito has beaten some good fighters and hasn't lost at 147 in years. Hatton and Castillo wouldn't surive against him. You can't beat a man that is bigger and stronger and just as active as you at his own game. Floyd and Judah would have a chance although honestly I'd pick Tony to upset them both. Floyd in the pocket vs a bull like Tony would play into Tony's hands. Tony is no Gatti who will sit there and look at Floyd, admiring him. He will attack and make no mistake, Tony has the power the KO Floyd (and obviously Judah).

Castillo would murder Margarito on the inside. Margarito needs room for his wide punches and Castillo will not give that to him. It would be a war but Castillo gets the better of him with his shorter punches plus he is an overall better fighter than Margarito.

Hatton would just simply outwork Margarito. He's quicker and throws combinations all the time.

Colombianpimp264
12-02-2005, 11:08 PM
im not sure but im guessing there are a couple guys that under 154 that could beat him
:boxing:

dino
12-04-2005, 05:38 PM
castillo style isnt fit to beat margarito..hes a brawler, but hes too small for margarito same thing with hatton..mayweather belongs at 140 or 135 and margarito could easily make 160..margarito has the power to TKO all of thee above (cotto hatton castillo corrales judah mayweather)and mosley de la hoya mayorga will never fight margarito so forget about that

Zab Super Judah
12-04-2005, 05:41 PM
mayweather and judah are better fighters but their to small for margarito in my opinon..de la hoya wont fight margarito...is their anybody under 154 who can beat margarito at this point?

sure. de la hoya, spinks, mayweather, judah, mosley..off the top of my head those guys would beat margarito

rsl
12-04-2005, 06:06 PM
I have personally seen Margarito prior to that I thought guys that were saying that everybody is ducking Antonio was full of sh1t. After seeing him in person the guy has to be walking around 160lbs. I've had a change of opinion in terms of who is ducking who.

Is Zab and Floyd more talented? Yes

Zab and Floyd have more skill? Depends how we determine skill, but overall Yes

Margarito fighting these 2 would be like Hops vs. DLH and y'all saw the size difference in that one. He would wear these two out by the time they get in the 7-8th round. I kinda like Mayweather's chances over Zab's though. Instead of talking about Hatton, Cotto, Castillo, Zab, and Floyd fighting Margarito. If anything Antonio needs to fight the Ouma's, Wrights, Mayorga's of the world.

Tha Greatest
12-04-2005, 06:10 PM
I don't want to start flaming people....

So I will not respond.

Margarito=UNDERRATED AS HELL by all of you!

Tha Greatest
12-04-2005, 06:13 PM
sure. de la hoya, spinks, mayweather, judah, mosley..off the top of my head those guys would beat margarito

Mosley can beat Margarito???

Are you kidding me?
Are tiy kidding me?

No, for real, are you kidding me?

Mosley HARDLY got past against a Mexican cab drive that punches slower than my Grandma, who Margarito would D E S T R O Y...

If Mosley ever beats Margarito, I will never post on this website again.

Easy-E
12-04-2005, 06:18 PM
I don't want to start flaming people....

So I will not respond.

Margarito=UNDERRATED AS HELL by all of you!

but hes overrated by you
his biggest fight is kermit cintrion!!

Tha Greatest
12-04-2005, 06:20 PM
but hes overrated by you
his biggest fight is kermit cintrion!!

So I guess he sucks because he never fought the greatest fighter......ok;)

I guess because he hasn't had the greatest resume then he can't win any fights against big names....don't work like that..

What about Raheem?
Who was his biggest win against?
Who knows? He beat Morales....

LondonRingRules
12-04-2005, 06:25 PM
=============Castillo would murder Margarito on the inside.==============

**Who murdered you? Margarito is so much bigger and stronger than Castillo that it's a joke. He also punches nonstop for as long as it takes. It'd be like Vitali against Jirov, a joke fight.

Super_Lightweight
12-04-2005, 07:43 PM
Castillo would murder Margarito on the inside. Margarito needs room for his wide punches and Castillo will not give that to him. It would be a war but Castillo gets the better of him with his shorter punches plus he is an overall better fighter than Margarito.

Hatton would just simply outwork Margarito. He's quicker and throws combinations all the time.

You're just wrong, no offense. If they ever fight, which I doubt, you will be proven to be totally and unquestionably incorrect. Margarito is just too strong for the both of them and I don't need to write an essay to explain this. Hatton, Castillo, and Margarito are all skilled brawlers with little regard for defense. If there is a SIGNIFICANTLY bigger guy in these matchups, that guy will win. Castillo is my fave fighter outside of Jones and DLH and there's no way in hell he'd beat Margarito. Period. There's a reason Castillo kills himself to make 135.

Easy-E
12-04-2005, 07:51 PM
So I guess he sucks because he never fought the greatest fighter......ok;)

I guess because he hasn't had the greatest resume then he can't win any fights against big names....don't work like that..

What about Raheem?
Who was his biggest win against?
Who knows? He beat Morales....

he needs a big fight in order to live up to the hype that many people are crediting him...im not denying his good, but im not going to say he could beat some of the best in the division unless he fights a bigger name

SalvaDominicano
12-04-2005, 09:32 PM
i would only give castillo and mayweather a chance to beat him. dont really see anyone else giving him much trouble. zab is fast but he'll get hit sooner or later.

Zab Super Judah
12-04-2005, 09:38 PM
Mosley can beat Margarito???

Are you kidding me?
Are tiy kidding me?

No, for real, are you kidding me?

Mosley HARDLY got past against a Mexican cab drive that punches slower than my Grandma, who Margarito would D E S T R O Y...

If Mosley ever beats Margarito, I will never post on this website again.

I'm dead serious. Mosley made the second winky fight interesting he would hit margarito wiht rights hands all day. I'll make a bet with you if thye ever fight

onetwopunch
12-04-2005, 10:15 PM
I would love to see him againts Ouma, DLH, Mosely, Vargas. Didnt he loose to Santos? at 154lbs?

Tha Greatest
12-04-2005, 10:17 PM
I'm dead serious. Mosley made the second winky fight interesting he would hit margarito wiht rights hands all day. I'll make a bet with you if thye ever fight

Did you see Mosley-Estrada?
Mosley-Crust?

Mosley will get destroyed by Margarito.

I'll bet EVERYTHING I have on this fight.

TheEvilSaint
12-04-2005, 10:17 PM
IMO, i think ricky hatton can beat him.

Zab Super Judah
12-04-2005, 10:27 PM
Did you see Mosley-Estrada?
Mosley-Crust?

Mosley will get destroyed by Margarito.

I'll bet EVERYTHING I have on this fight.

yeah I saw them both. And feel like Mosley is geting more comfortable with being at 147

riz
12-04-2005, 10:31 PM
He has the lowly WBO belt and people are giving him recognition :p .

Funny to say the least.
considering he aint promoted by DKP, im not surprsied he doesn't get publicity.
hes a solid fighter. and well his last couple of fights have been better than judahs defence against a guy who was like 28-7 or sumin. but i hear where u coming from

riz
12-04-2005, 10:33 PM
yeah I saw them both. And feel like Mosley is geting more comfortable with being at 147
i c ur point but, margarito is way more agressive than other fighters mosely has fought. also margarito doesn't have a weak chin, it's pretty dam sturdy. hes a rough fighter, and i could c it being like a forrest mosely II

`STEELHEAD
12-05-2005, 02:08 AM
He has the lowly WBO belt and people are giving him recognition :p .

Funny to say the least.

this is an exception.margarito shouldn't be taken lightly because of that.no top escheolon boxer wants to fight him.no money there for the pain.

i don't think zab or floyds speed will help them for to long against bigger margarito.

i see mosley having a chance.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-05-2005, 04:25 AM
Antonio Margarito isnt the most skilled fighter out there. Some say he is a bigger version of Castillo and ill even admit that Castillo is better pound 4 pound technically.

But the fact is.

He is tough, big, and strong.

He is young and hungry

He comes to fight.

He throws punches from different angles.

He throws effective

He keeps both his hands up

He can pop.

He has great stamina, and high work rate.

And though he isnt up there technically with the best, he is decent.

He is a tougher fight for floyd than anyone he's faced in the last 2 - 2.5 years. And he pays better too (About 7 million... compared to less than 4 for Sharmba).

He was ducked like the plague by Spinks, you know... the guy that Judah beat to be "undisputed".

Lets be honest here if it was as "easy" as some of you guys are saying to beat this guy it would have been done already and the fight would be signed and waiting. That whole there is no money in it is crap there is more than enough Money on the table to fight him. Especially for Foyd.... and if it was as easy as some are saying then even more so the reason to fight him.

Also wether the belt comes from the WBO, IBF, WBA, or WBC doesnt make a champion. Marco Antonio Barrera and other great fighters have proven that.

drez24
12-05-2005, 04:49 AM
there's a lot of Margarito haters on here, all of which seem to be Mayweather fans. I only saw two of his fights, Santos 2 and Cintron, but he looked good in both, he just needs to get more active.

Pico Hollywood
12-05-2005, 04:54 AM
PBF would Expose him quickly.

dino
12-05-2005, 07:17 AM
PBF would Expose him quickly.

man have u seen how small mayweather is compared to margarito?

machotime
12-05-2005, 08:16 AM
PBF would embarrass Margarito...and practically every other boxer under 154 lbs...
Mayweather at 154 would be demolished!!! he is crazy to even think of fighting at 154. Anyway, Margarito is bigger and has way more punch than Mayweather. Margarito/Judah would be a great match but I still think that Margarito would win. Winky at 154 would beat all of these boxers. I hate his style and he is more boring than Hopkins to watch, but as Emmanuel Stuart said "Winky is untouchable right now".

mikefromstu
12-05-2005, 10:34 AM
This is easy, PBF, Hatton, Santos (again), Cotto, De La Hoya, Mayorga, Witter, Mosley, I can keep going but you get the point.

dizo101
12-05-2005, 10:59 AM
mayweather and judah are better fighters but their to small for margarito in my opinon..de la hoya wont fight margarito...is their anybody under 154 who can beat margarito at this point?
YES

Mayweather hatton cotto would beat margrito imo

MAXWELL_
12-05-2005, 01:53 PM
this is an exception.margarito shouldn't be taken lightly because of that.no top escheolon boxer wants to fight him.no money there for the pain.

i don't think zab or floyds speed will help them for to long against bigger margarito.

i see mosley having a chance.

thats what i think too.these guys are small and would have to be able to find a way to hurt margarito to have a chance.speed isn't enough.

druth
12-05-2005, 02:04 PM
Speed isn't enough? Ok...

To bully someone and pound away on their body/arms/chest, they need to be a stationary target for those shots to have any juice.

Both Mayweather and Zab are too quick on their feet to let this happen to them, especially against a "slow" fighter in Margarito. Sure he's got power and is a rough fighter, but being rough only works if you can keep on your opponent. They're both entirely too fast to let this happen. Both of them will pepper him with jabs and 1-2's when Tony is on the way in.

There's a reason he's the WBO champ, and it's not because he's avoided. It's because his handlers know his limits. Put him in the ring with these two, and the guy will get a boxing lesson.

Super_Lightweight
12-05-2005, 02:36 PM
There's a reason he's the WBO champ, and it's not because he's avoided. It's because his handlers know his limits. Put him in the ring with these two, and the guy will get a boxing lesson.

That is 100% false. His handlers are not holding him back. He tried to get a fight with Floyd and Floyd didn't take it. Maybe Floyd will take it later, who knows? But Margarito is avoided, plain and simple. He deserves a crack at a real title and it's not his handlers holding him back.

druth
12-05-2005, 02:47 PM
That is 100% false. His handlers are not holding him back. He tried to get a fight with Floyd and Floyd didn't take it. Maybe Floyd will take it later, who knows? But Margarito is avoided, plain and simple. He deserves a crack at a real title and it's not his handlers holding him back.


I agree with the majority of what you say here, however this is a point which I'll disagree with you on. It's sort of like how Gatti's handlers were...they told him NO NO NO with Mayweather, however he wanted to fight him.

Margarito is a tough cookie, but only for the right type of fighter. Someone who can pick his punches off or avoid them and hit him with quick counters (even if they aren't huge shots) will dominate him.