mark my words...hopkins will beat eastman and taylor will beat somlian..hopkins may fight 1 more guy after that..but close to the end of the year..in hopkins last fight..jermain taylor will beat him to end his "epic" career

mark my words...hopkins will beat eastman and taylor will beat somlian..hopkins may fight 1 more guy after that..but close to the end of the year..in hopkins last fight..jermain taylor will beat him to end his "epic" career


im going to disagree right there with you my friend, taylor isnt at the same level as Hopkins, Hopkins will break taylor down into a decision we all know Hopkins is to smart for a rookie like taylor


-Top Rank-
"dino on shrooms 2 be thinking Hopkins going 2 lose 2 taylor"

I would have agreed with you if you had said at the end of next year. Taylor isn't ready for someone like Hopkins. Hop is still too crafty and rugged. I'd love to see Taylor's face when Hop starts hitting him on the hips in a clinch. --> :eek:

If Taylor convincingly beats Soliman and Hop shows clear signs of getting too old...then I might begin to think Taylor has more of a feasible chance to do it this year. Taylor certainly has the skills and youth to do it...but not until he gets two more or so good fights against real, dangerous middles under his belt.

Taylor is hype, I belive the honor of beating Hopkins this or next year is Trinidad's.

Not Next Year..i Mean This Year

Im going out on a limb and still saying Eastman will decision Hopkins, I know it sounds stupid but hey I have my opinion.

Not Next Year..i Mean This Year

Well this year I would not count on Taylor to take BH.
As for tito I think the same scenario with BH would occur as in 2001...I'd love to watch a rematch anyway!!

Im going out on a limb and still saying Eastman will decision Hopkins, I know it sounds stupid but hey I have my opinion.
Your still on that EA curse thing huh? Heres the thing though, if you believe in the curse it might not come into effect until after the Hopkins - Eastman fight because the fight is in (correct me if im wrong) Feb. The game Fight Night Round 2 doesn't come out untill March. So if anything hopkins will lose in the fight after eastan, most likely to Trinidad.

Your still on that EA curse thing huh? Heres the thing though, if you believe in the curse it might not come into effect until after the Hopkins - Eastman fight because the fight is in (correct me if im wrong) Feb. The game Fight Night Round 2 doesn't come out untill March. So if anything hopkins will lose in the fight after eastan, most likely to Trinidad.


It's never failed, Eastman is a hard hitter and has a solid chin (not that bernard is a ko artist or anything) I dont really care for this fight one way or another, since it should have been made 2 years ago..But im not going to be flipping out if an upset occurs or if Bernard completely destroys eastman (because that is what is supposed to happen)

It's a fight im not to estatic over and I am going with the underdog on this one.

Hopkins never loses alot of Rounds. For Eastman to beat Hopkins by decision it's going to have to be a very one-sided match, and even then they'll still make it look closer than it really was. I don't think the judges are going to change champs on some 7-5 rounds fight in favor of Eastman..

I really think Taylor is the real deal! I think he can beat Hopkins right now. I don't think it will be a blowout because Hop is too good to lose real bad. Taylor beat Joppy even worse then Hopkins did and Joppy ran his ass off. If Taylor uses that awesome jab and speed he will beat Hopkins. Bernard is too slow for Taylor. If Taylor fights Hopkins fight he will lose. Jab and use his youth to move around the ring. Whatever happens this should be a great fight... The passing of the torch!

I really think Taylor is the real deal! I think he can beat Hopkins right now. I don't think it will be a blowout because Hop is too good to lose real bad. Taylor beat Joppy even worse then Hopkins did and Joppy ran his ass off. If Taylor uses that awesome jab and speed he will beat Hopkins. Bernard is too slow for Taylor. If Taylor fights Hopkins fight he will lose. Jab and use his youth to move around the ring. Whatever happens this should be a great fight... The passing of the torch!



I think that if Taylor does beat Hopkins, people will say that Hopkins got old overnight.

I think that if Taylor does beat Hopkins, people will say that Hopkins got old overnight.
Yup, same thing will happen if Trinidad (or anyone else, for that matter) beats Hop. I like Taylor and think he has the tools to beat Hopkins right now if they fought. I've never seen Eastman fight so I'm going the safe route and call it for Hopkins but, having seen Taylor, I think Bernard would have a tough time witht the jab and with the speed. Taylor has the power to keep Bernard at bay and be able to fight from the outside where he can use his reach to his advantage.

Yup, same thing will happen if Trinidad (or anyone else, for that matter) beats Hop. I like Taylor and think he has the tools to beat Hopkins right now if they fought. I've never seen Eastman fight so I'm going the safe route and call it for Hopkins but, having seen Taylor, I think Bernard would have a tough time witht the jab and with the speed. Taylor has the power to keep Bernard at bay and be able to fight from the outside where he can use his reach to his advantage.

Same here! I've seen Eastman fight years ago but don't remember how good he was. Taylor and Hopkins should be great.

I really think Taylor is the real deal! I think he can beat Hopkins right now. I don't think it will be a blowout because Hop is too good to lose real bad. Taylor beat Joppy even worse then Hopkins did and Joppy ran his ass off. If Taylor uses that awesome jab and speed he will beat Hopkins. Bernard is too slow for Taylor. If Taylor fights Hopkins fight he will lose. Jab and use his youth to move around the ring. Whatever happens this should be a great fight... The passing of the torch!



Joppy was out jabbing Taylor until Taylor started to counter with power shots.....

I think you need to take a closer look on who beat who's ass worst...Joppy got completely dominated in the Hopkins fight and lost every round in my book and his face speaks for the fight itself.

Joppy was out jabbing Taylor until Taylor started to counter with power shots.....

I think you need to take a closer look on who beat who's ass worst...Joppy got completely dominated in the Hopkins fight and lost every round in my book and his face speaks for the fight itself.

couldn't have said it better

Eastman has a better chance against Hopkins than Trinidad has. Trinidad showed how limited he was when Hopkins shut him out and KO`ed him. Trinidad hasn`t a chance in hell of beating Hopkins and i think it would be a big mistake if Tito fought Hopkins, Tito hasn`t shown anything to suggest he`d win and round against Nard ( he couldn`t even do that the first time ) why is an older, rusty Tito all of a sudden the guy who will beat Hopkins? I am hoping so much that Sturm or Wright some how beat Tito and then he might go away again. Hopkins beat everyone for ten years, Tito lost the biggest fight of his career ( and should have lost to Oscar too if it wasn`t for Don Kings cheating influlance ). Please don`t clown about how Trinidad has a chance, let alone victory!

If Taylor can get in there with a Trinidad or a Vargas and dominate them, then I'll believe in the hype that is Taylor.

Eastman has a better chance against Hopkins than Trinidad has. Trinidad showed how limited he was when Hopkins shut him out and KO`ed him. Trinidad hasn`t a chance in hell of beating Hopkins and i think it would be a big mistake if Tito fought Hopkins, Tito hasn`t shown anything to suggest he`d win and round against Nard ( he couldn`t even do that the first time ) why is an older, rusty Tito all of a sudden the guy who will beat Hopkins? I am hoping so much that Sturm or Wright some how beat Tito and then he might go away again. Hopkins beat everyone for ten years, Tito lost the biggest fight of his career ( and should have lost to Oscar too if it wasn`t for Don Kings cheating influlance ). Please don`t clown about how Trinidad has a chance, let alone victory!
Ah, if there is an opposite to a Trinidad nuthugger then you are the paradigm case. You are obviously a Tito-hater. First of all, while Trinidad is an older fighter, Hopkins is older by exactly the same amount. Did you forget to calculate that fact? Also, Trinidad is 8 years younger than Hopkins. B-Hop was 36 when he fought Trinidad and has just turned 40. Those four years, while they haven't shown against B-class and over-inflated fighters (think DLH), take a definite effect on any body and even more on a fighter's body. I thought Hopkins looked slow and old against DLH (whom I had winning the fight by a point up until he got KO'd) and had the fight gone the distance it would've been a very close fight that DLH could possibly have won.

Tito, on the other hand, had 2+ years of rest while Hop kept banging it out in the ring. You speak of rust but he didn't show much in his last fight against Mayorga (yeah, an over-inflated welter who was taylor-made for him, I've heard it before). I don't think Trinidad should climb into the ring with Hopkins for his next fight but it should be on his agenda for this year. After B-Hop defends his title against Eastman (assuming he wins, of course) and Tito fights one more time (again, assuming he wins) they should meet up for a final showdown. This, of course, is a no-win situation for Tito because if he wins he would've beat an old fighter in Hopkins (40 years make for no spring chicken) and if he loses he would've lost to the best Middleweight in the world, again.

There is no shame in losing to Hopkins, either. You say that he lost the biggest fight of his carrer but, yet, he had won all previous matches and has gone 2-0 with 2KO's since. Just as there is no shame in Hopkins having lost to RJJ there is no shame in Tito having lost to B-Hop. They both lost to the dominant Middleweight of their time.

Joppy was out jabbing Taylor until Taylor started to counter with power shots.....

I think you need to take a closer look on who beat who's ass worst...Joppy got completely dominated in the Hopkins fight and lost every round in my book and his face speaks for the fight itself.

Well both fights were almost identicle in dominance. But in the Taylor fight Joppy ran his ass off and didn't even fight in a couple of rounds. Joppy didn't run at all against Hopkins and was dominated. If Joppy doesn't run the rest of the fight with Taylor after the knockdown, he would have been knocked out! And he knew it.

They actually evenly dominated Joppy except for the running.

I don't think that Taylor will beat Soliman let alone dominate him. :D

Taylor is a very promissing fighter ineed but i don't think he would beat Bernard now at all. Bernard proved in the Oscar fight that he can box well or he can beat you down and i think thats what would happen to Taylor. Sadly the Middleweight division isn't the strongest out there except for a few fighters so it's hard to judge how good Taylor actually isbut as far as beating Bernard i don't think so. If their is one thing i have learned over the years of watching Bernard it is underestimating him in a big fight. I thought Tito would give him hell their fight and the opposite happened. Seeing him stop Tito was the icing on the cake to how good he was. He only lost a VERY close decision to a prime Roy.

Taylor is a very promissing fighter ineed but i don't think he would beat Bernard now at all. Bernard proved in the Oscar fight that he can box well or he can beat you down and i think thats what would happen to Taylor. Sadly the Middleweight division isn't the strongest out there except for a few fighters so it's hard to judge how good Taylor actually isbut as far as beating Bernard i don't think so. If their is one thing i have learned over the years of watching Bernard it is underestimating him in a big fight. I thought Tito would give him hell their fight and the opposite happened. Seeing him stop Tito was the icing on the cake to how good he was. He only lost a VERY close decision to a prime Roy.


Jermain Taylor rules!!! He is the future champ. He will displace the great Hopkins. He is a very intelligent, disciplined, brilliant fighter,... another Vitaliy. (he-he). :) :D

He only lost a VERY close decision to a prime Roy.

VERY close as in 8 round to 4 (on all 3 scorecards)?
prime Roy as in one handed Roy?

apart from this I agree

I think hopkins would beat trinidad and taylor if he fought today, but... 12 months from now is a long time when you are 40

From what I heard that whole talk about Roy Jones jr. saying he beat Hopkins with one hand was just that..."talk"...the only reason he said that was because that was the first fight in which he didn't pitch a shut-out. It was his toughest fight..

Taylor is a very good prospect but I still think Hopkins beats him this year if they fight.

hopkins is to good for taylor..unless taylor fights him in 4 years...taylor is pretty overrated and doesnt have enough power to hang with the big boys
taylor vs:

sturm-gets jabbed to death and loses a UD
tito-gets KTFO
hopkins-get owned/schooled and ko'ed

taylor is not ready for any of this...and evn at that he wont ever be that good for a couple of years. I say taylor gets put on his ass before he even makes it to the big money fights...he leaves himself open soemtimes and comes in to blindly at time also, he does have skills which if he improves will be a great champ someday

From what I heard that whole talk about Roy Jones jr. saying he beat Hopkins with one hand was just that..."talk"...the only reason he said that was because that was the first fight in which he didn't pitch a shut-out. It was his toughest fight..

it could well be the case, considering how full of **** roy jones has always been, but if i remember well, jones doesn't actually use the right hand a lot throughout the fight.

Taylor beat Joppy more soundly than Hopkins did. I think Taylor's stronger and faster than Hopkins. However, Hopkin's experience and intimidation factor, plus Taylor's respect towards Hopkins will play a big role in their match. I don't think it will happen though... Hopkins won't take that huge risk by facing Taylor at the last phase of his career.

Hopkins would whip Taylor like he was a son of his. Taylor's too green for him now. Taylor dominated Joppy only after Hopkins beat the hell out of him. There's alot of questions over Taylor that we all don't know. How well he reacts under pressure. What happens if he's in with a puncher & gets put on the canvas. Can he come from behind on the cards & win. Hops has a world of experience & has been in alot of tough fights & has come out on top most of the time. Could Taylor, it's yet to be seen & until he he gets into one of those fights I'm still saying Hops.

It doesnt really matter much who beat Joppy worse. Taylor is good and could be great one day, but Hopkins is great right now and would hand Taylor an azz whippin. Maybe in a couple years when Hopkins is in a walker.

never happen hopkins could fight another 5 years and he still will not lose any matches

I think people are underestimating Taylor he is young and learning really fast i think in a few fights he could be ready for bhop.

hop will execute eastman and then show taylor the ropes in a decision
win. maybe in a few yrs taylor would pull of a decision or a ko. but not anytime soon. i have seen taylor struggle against lesser opponents then hop. 20 defenses aint easy.

Taylor is one of my favorite fighters (overall), but I think putting him in with Hopkins now will have the same result as Vargas vs. Trinidad and Reid vs. Trinidad...just not quite ready and was never able to recover.

Hopkins will lose to Roy Jones, even now with Jones getting ko'ed.

Hopkins will hands down beat Taylor because Hopkins and his team will be sure to get him ready for that fight. It's sheer briliance when I watch Hopkins fight at his best and only the best makes him fight his best.

Hopkins will hands down beat Taylor because Hopkins and his team will be sure to get him ready for that fight. It's sheer briliance when I watch Hopkins fight at his best and only the best makes him fight his best.
Too bad he doesn't fight the best. You always criticize me for being a DLH fan, but Hopkins is doing the same thing. Hopkins is fighting smaller fighters and building his reputation from that. Whats the difference between DLH-Ruelas and Hopkins-Trinidad?

Hopkins Hasnt Fought A True Live Middleweight Since A Young Roy Jones...trinidad Isnt A True Middlweight ..if Thats What U Ppl Are Gonna Say

Joppy was out jabbing Taylor until Taylor started to counter with power shots.....

I think you need to take a closer look on who beat who's ass worst...Joppy got completely dominated in the Hopkins fight and lost every round in my book and his face speaks for the fight itself.


no u take a look...joppy out jabbed taylor for the first round...taylor got thrown off guard because joppy has that little weird lean back move

no u take a look...joppy out jabbed taylor for the first round...taylor got thrown off guard because joppy has that little weird lean back move


Looks like he leaned back all the way to the canvas.