Which fighter has really gotten the most out of their career with limited skills

samuel peter has absolutely no skills and he's gotten pretty far.

Which fighter has really gotten the most out of their career with limited skills


lamon brewster - u don't need skills if u got heart, chin, and punching power

Rocky Marciano

Rocky Marciano and Steve Collins are candidates.

u don't need skills if u got heart, chin, and punching power

thats true.

Greg Haugen.

The guy couldnt punch, was not a very good defensive fighter, didnt have quick hands but he was tough as nails.

His fights with Vinny Panzienza are classics...at least in my mind.

If there was ever a fighter who got the most out of their ability it would be Greg Haugen.

The names so far listed dont even compare to THE MUT!

i'd probably vote for Ruiz. Mayorga may be an example too, not to mention Carlos Maussa and Jorge Barrios. But I get the feeling thats how they fight down there.

Skills and ability are two very different things.

Chin, endurance, punching power are all talents.

A guy like Samuel Peter is actually a freak of nature and extremely talented. I'd consider Samuel Peter more talented than Winky Wright, who wins more or less through skill and sticking to his gameplan 100%. If you win your fights more on the merits of natural ability than skill, you are talented.

People tend to consider only handspeed, agility and overall athleticism as talents which seems to me like a fairly narrowminded perspective.

Why was Max Baer considered one of the most talented heavyweights of all time? He wasn't quick by any stretch of the imagination. It's because he was extremely powerful, had great endurance, and possessed one of the best chins the division had ever seen. Each of these qualities is just as much a talent as handspeed or superb reflexes.

Mayorga. Peter. Maussa.

I would have to say Ruiz. He has hugged his way through his career. One thing I will say about Ruiz, he will fight anybody at anytime. He doesn't dodge anyone. But as far as talent, IMO he should have never held a title, let alone regaining it twice.

I would have to say Ruiz. He has hugged his way through his career. One thing I will say about Ruiz, he will fight anybody at anytime. He doesn't dodge anyone. But as far as talent, IMO he should have never held a title, let alone regaining it twice.
hes blatantly dodging james toney.

anytime? well, seeing as how hes never had more than 2 fights a year since 1999 and more than 3 fights since 1996, i wouldnt say "anytime".

i have no respect for john the bum ruiz. but hes probly accomplished more than anybody else with such limited skill.

sidenote: many many people are underrating rocky marciano's skill.

hes blatantly dodging james toney.

anytime? well, seeing as how hes never had more than 2 fights a year since 1999 and more than 3 fights since 1996, i wouldnt say "anytime".

i have no respect for john the bum ruiz. but hes probly accomplished more than anybody else with such limited skill.

sidenote: many many people are underrating rocky marciano's skill.
Most HW's are only fighting once or twice a year anyway. Especially the belt holders. Most of the belt holders are only fighting once a year. Example Byrd. I agree, he has accomplished the most with little to no skill.

thats true.

yeah, arturo gatti proved that :rolleyes:

Most HW's are only fighting once or twice a year anyway. Especially the belt holders. Most of the belt holders are only fighting once a year. Example Byrd. I agree, he has accomplished the most with little to no skill.
thats one of many things i hate about boxing today, too much inactivity and too many people accustomed to it.

jack britton was a multi time welterweight champion around teh 1910s to 1920s, in a 25 year career jack had participated in approx 347 professional fights and he died at the healthy age of 76 in 1962. he is just one of many fighters who had their number of bouts in the triple digits.

how i do miss the good old days. remember when fighters were honorable sportsmen who loved to fight?... yeah, me neither.

Vitali Klitszcho

I'd have to say Holyfield. Holyfield was never supposed to be an effective heavyweight. When he made the jump from cruiser back in the late 80's, most thought he lacked the power skill to suceed at heavyweight. Even after he beat douglas no one wanted to give him his due. It didn't help that he turned in poor performances against Cooper and Foreman. That only added fuel to the fire. After he lost to Bowe, people just sort of wrote him off as a sorry chapter in heavyweight history, until he regained the title in their rematch. He actually peaked in the late 90s after beating Tyson. He lacked the power and speed to be a dominating champion, but had a great run.... By the way Ruiz sucks and hasn't accomplished anything (I don't recognize his title as legit) so he doesn't even enter the equation.

Valuev, Mesi, Mayorga, Trinidad, Morales, Rahman, the list is very wrong...

sidenote: many many people are underrating rocky marciano's skill.

Yes they are.

Mayorga has to be on that list for sure. Mickey Ward. Castillo. Ruiz and Brewster both belong too. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

john ruiz.


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john ruiz.


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He was actually the first guy to come to mind for me. But, he does have pretty decent punching power. In his earlier days he used to have a respectable KO percentage against decent opponents. Before he got KO'd by Tua.

He was actually the first guy to come to mind for me. But, he does have pretty decent punching power. In his earlier days he used to have a respectable KO percentage against decent opponents. Before he got KO'd by Tua.
he still has good power but what else has he ever had? nothing spectacular comes to mind.

Limited ability... As in technical or athletic? I'm presuming natural talent. There are plenty but the ones that come to mind are Iran Barkley, Fernando Vargas(saw him fight live up close and I couldn't believe my eyes as to how slow he was, not that he was ever known for his speed, but it seemed like there were guys in my own gym that was quicker than he was) and Genaro Hernandez.

Tommy Burns

maussa........

floyd mayweather are you a hater or an idiot