Boxers are not renowned for their intelligence. We all know that. But does anyone know any boxers with impressive intellect?

For me, Chris Eubank was one who, despite the lisp, was a rather intelligent chap.

As far as boxing history goes and boxing in general Mike Tyson knows an unbelievable amount of stuff. Not all boxers do know lots about the past but he is one that does. :cool:

As far as boxing history goes and boxing in general Mike Tyson knows an unbelievable amount of stuff. Not all boxers do know lots about the past but he is one that does. :cool:

When Iron Mike is not talking about eating hearts and babies, in interviews he does show impressive knowledge and intellect. Must give him that.

Im impressed by the way he uses big words and understands them. What about the Kiltschkos. They're doctors and speak like 3 or 4 different languages

They can speak English, Ukranian, German and something else.

They can speak English, Ukranian, German and something else.

And Russian if im not mistaken, pluss doctor grade in sportsciense and proffessor grade in philosophy if ot mistaking again, i guess its pretty clear which boxers are the smartest.

Boxers are not renowned for their intelligence. We all know that. But does anyone know any boxers with impressive intellect?

For me, Chris Eubank was one who, despite the lisp, was a rather intelligent chap.

Quite a few boxers are quite smart, and the ones that aren't are still taught a lot if they have the right trainers and managers. Cus made sure Tyson knew everything he needed to know about boxing history.

As for current fighters, Hopkins is a lot smarter than some people seem to give him credit for. Just cause he talks goofy people thinks he's dumb...fact it he's hilarious and a dumb guy could not be that funny. The Klitschkos are quite bright, as well, as some people have mentioned. A lot of the new young boxers, like Juan Diaz and Jeff Lacy, seem like intelligent guys.

james toney may be smart but i just dont get what he is sayin

Most Intellectual - Gene Tunney

2nd place- Ali

DaVarryl Williamson holds a Master's Degree in business administration. His fight vs. Wladimir Klitschko was perhaps the only high-profile fight between two heavyweights with advanced college degrees.

Most Intellectual - Gene Tunney

2nd place- Ali

Good picks, though I might put Ali as number one. Still, Tunney sometimes does not get enough credit for his wins over Dempsey. People focus on Dempsey's time off, the long count, etc. People forget that Tunney studied Dempsey's style and determined the best ways to beat him.

I'd put Rocky Marciano and Larry Holmes high on the list as well if we're talking about all-time fighters. I could listen to Holmes talk about boxing all day, and the clips from Rocky's old show are terrific.

james toney may be smart but i just dont get what he is sayin
Sometimes, I can't understand the babble that comes out of James Toney's mouth.

Marco Antonio Barrera = boxing smarts + lawyer. :)

Good picks, though I might put Ali as number one. Still, Tunney sometimes does not get enough credit for his wins over Dempsey. People focus on Dempsey's time off, the long count, etc. People forget that Tunney studied Dempsey's style and determined the best ways to beat him.

I'd put Rocky Marciano and Larry Holmes high on the list as well if we're talking about all-time fighters. I could listen to Holmes talk about boxing all day, and the clips from Rocky's old show are terrific.
Didn't Ali fail his military test and graduate at the bottom of his class? He even once said "I said I was the greatest, I didn't say I was the smartest."

Marco Antonio Barrera = boxing smarts + lawyer. :)
MAB is a lawyer? I never knew that.

http://www.genetunney.com/postcard34a.jpg
http://www.genetunney.org/portrait63.jpg

Pictures of boxers with books are few and far between....

MAB is a lawyer? I never knew that.

yes that's one of the so called reasons of rivalry between him and el terrible , who comes from a poor background...

Didn't Ali fail his military test and graduate at the bottom of his class? He even once said "I said I was the greatest, I didn't say I was the smartest."

Ali may not have had school smarts but there's no denying his brilliance in and outside the ring. His ring smarts are well documented, with perhaps the most notable display of brilliant strategy coming against Foreman. Outside the ring he has proven to be a master showman and an amazing speaker, as was able to build himself up into a world figure as much with his mouth and with his fists.

Not everyone is smart the same way. I probably wouldn't ask, say, Nelson Mandela to solve complex quantum physics problems, for example, but he's still a brilliant man.

2 interesting suggestions..

Lennox Lewis - smart for retiring when he did.

Tommy Morrison - smart for teaching the children about promiscuous lifestyles and AIDS, once he was infected.

I would have to say Ali he was the best and playing mind games and winning his fight before it happened. He is also sharp outside of the ring.

Big Len may talk cack, but there's a brain in there.

What about Roy Jones jr.?

Didn't Ali fail his military test and graduate at the bottom of his class? He even once said "I said I was the greatest, I didn't say I was the smartest."


sayin this shows how smart and brilliant you are

Trust me guys, being very clever is overated!! :D

Trust me guys, being very clever is overated!! :D

So your big AND dumb ;)

Only kidding lee wouldn't want your 18 stones chasing my skinny 13 stone ass down the street, mind you thinking about it you wouldn't catch me lol :p

Juan Diaz is studying law in college, he seems like a pretty smart young guy

So your big AND dumb ;)

Only kidding lee wouldn't want your 18 stones chasing my skinny 13 stone ass down the street, mind you thinking about it you wouldn't catch me lol :p

:D

yeah, but if i did catch you!!

http://education.osu.edu/rsuminski/sumo%20and%20kid.jpg

:D

yeah, but if i did catch you!!

http://education.osu.edu/rsuminski/sumo%20and%20kid.jpg

LOL, i'm bald though and not a midget!!!! :D

LOL, i'm bald though and not a midget!!!! :D

The bloke looks like me, but i wouldnt be seen dead in that thong!!

AND the midget looks like he's taking a ****

Wasn't Azumah Nelson a bonafide professor?

Sugar Ray Leonard was a smart boxer and buiness man, besides the fact he never knew when to retire.

Boxers are not renowned for their intelligence. We all know that. But does anyone know any boxers with impressive intellect?

For me, Chris Eubank was one who, despite the lisp, was a rather intelligent chap.
Chris Eubank is not intelligent he talks rubbish to make himself seem smart, he has that stupid monocle and drives a truck which he pays thousands monthly in parking tickets for.
Idiot :cool:

Sugar Ray Leonard was a smart boxer and buiness man, besides the fact he never knew when to retire.
Yeah :p came back at 40 and got stopped in 5 i believe.

james toney is the only intelligent boxer

the rest are bums beyond repair

james toney is the only intelligent boxer

the rest are bums beyond repair


JT actually is a pretty nice, well spoken guy when you meet him outside of his tough guy boxing stuff. He babbles alot now though.

No wonder why TOS/Wlad sucked...a couple of ***** ass teachers fighting has never been an appealing fight.

ray leonord is smart. he got inside of durans head and made him quit.he studyed hagler for a while and found out every thing about him.

Ali is outstanding in my mind because he could change up any plan he would see what worked and what didn't and not be stuck in a rut like so many countless others we watch who won't even notice the guy they are fighting against has become a one handed fighter. RJJ seems to know whats going on at least in the ring in that same way. As far as intellectual i beleave there are many intelligent fighters so many in fact that the addage that you got to be stupid to want to fight for a living seems as out dated as women not being able to vote. I don't know what others will feel but i think also that george foreman is a very smart man at least wise.

And Russian if im not mistaken, pluss doctor grade in sportsciense and proffessor grade in philosophy if ot mistaking again, i guess its pretty clear which boxers are the smartest.

being good in books and in your subjects doesn't necessarily translate to being smart.

being good in books and in your subjects doesn't necessarily translate to being smart.

No, but its a good indicator.

No, but its a good indicator.

i agree...

Maybe Vitali, who has a PHD in Phys. Ed. How about Barney Ross, I heard he was pretty smart.

How about Barney Ross, I heard he was pretty smart.
Yep....the addiction to the needle proves his smarts! :rolleyes:

Yep....the addiction to the needle proves his smarts! :rolleyes:
The guy made alot of money in the stock market and ****. What have you done thats smart? Piss IN the toilet?

I am still working on a phony self-appreciating sig like yours, dickless.

I am still working on a phony self-appreciating sig like yours, dickless.
You see, another old guy hating on The Sensation for flaunting his youth. Is somebody angry at The Sensation? It's because I'm black, isn't it?

Please write and whine some more in your journal.
Your fuked up, sad excuse for a life makes me feel like Bill Gates in comparison. :D

Please write and whine some more in your journal.
Your fuked up, sad excuse for a life makes me feel like Bill Gates in comparison. :D
Ooh, the old man still has something in the tank. What is it that pisses you off so much about The Sensational One? Are you simply a hater? Is that it? Or do you just love Liston so much that you would go to the grave defending his honor? Why don't you stop trying to prove your intellectual superiority over a 17 year old and pay some mortgage or whatever old people like you do.

This is representative of your posting and cognitive skills.
I have NEVER apoken on behalf of Liston. Ever.

"The Sensational One"! What a laugh!
Make another "Keeping up with" thread...as if ANYBODY gives a fuk what is going on in your pitiful excuse for a life. Did you get that title out of "Teen Beat" magazine loser? :D

This is representative of your posting and cognitive skills.
I have NEVER apoken on behalf of Liston. Ever.

"The Sensational One"! What a laugh!
Make another "Keeping up with" thread...as if ANYBODY gives a fuk what is going on in your pitiful excuse for a life. Did you get that title out of "Teen Beat" magazine loser? :D
Nah, your girl calls me Asian Sensation. You "apoken" about Liston in the Ali fight fix thread recently, idiot. It seems that someone has been keeping up with The Sensation recently, as you seem to know alot about my posts and ****.

Reduced to harping on a typo........sad.

Don't let it bother you though, Skippy. I have verbally beaten down grown men with I.Q.s in the triple digit range.
YOU never stood a chance! :D :D

Don't let it bother you though, Skippy. I have beaten off grown men with I.Q.s in the triple digit range.
YOU never stood a chance! :D :D
Well, you can masturbate grown men all you want, it's none of my business. The truth is I'm so much smarter than you that you can kiss my ass. My IQ is in the triple digit range, and then some. The thing thats sad is that I'm smarter than you, would kick your ass, and you can suck my ****. That's the Triple Threat right there. :)

Well I'll be danged! You ARE just 17!
That childish rant just proved it.
I'm done with you, Nancy.
You bore me!

Boxers are not renowned for their intelligence. We all know that. But does anyone know any boxers with impressive intellect?

For me, Chris Eubank was one who, despite the lisp, was a rather intelligent chap.

gotta be levin... :D

I'm a homosexual who performs sexual favors on men. I love Ricky Martin and arguing with 17 year olds. I have a tiny penis. You bore me!
OK, whatever man.

I am still working on a phony self-appreciating sig like yours, dickless.
Ha Ha, I'm the most intelligent boxer!

I would have to say these three Benard Hopkins,Juan Manuel Marquez and Oscar Delahoya. This is boxing wise.

Hopkins, Tszyu, Mayweather.....

Oscar De La Hoya
Muhammad Ali
Sugar Ray Leonard

Without any order:

Vitaliy Klichko
Wladimir Klichko
Juan Diaz
Sharmba Mitchel
Kostya Tzyu

I think the question of what kind of intellegence we are talking about is key. I think really as far as smart boxers Ali and RJJ are up near the top - now that does not mean they would get the highest SAT score or they couold solve the most complicated math problem - I think they understood fighting more than others. They seemed to able to do the most with their intellect inside the square ring. As far as classic intelligence Tunney would have to be one of the top.

James Toney is very crafty in the ring. Not so sure about intelligence outside of da ring.

I think the question of what kind of intellegence we are talking about is key. I think really as far as smart boxers Ali and RJJ are up near the top - now that does not mean they would get the highest SAT score or they couold solve the most complicated math problem - I think they understood fighting more than others. They seemed to able to do the most with their intellect inside the square ring. As far as classic intelligence Tunney would have to be one of the top.

isn't intellegence measured by IQ?

someone can tell you all there is to know about bass fishing and john boats, but still not have a lick of sense and have an IQ of 50.

so they are bass fishing and john boat SMART, but they are only but so INTELLEGENT.

in terms of general intelligence i would say Marco Antonio Barrera and Juan Diaz. If were talking about knowledge in the industry of boxing i would go with De La Hoya.