Williams fought Klitschko with one arm

source: secoundsout.com

By Anthony Evans and pic by Mr Will/Hogan

Knocked down and nearly out in the first round, sliced open above the eye in the second, dropped in the third, set sprawling in the seventh and rocked and badly hurt in almost every minute before finally getting clubbed to defeat in the eighth, Danny Williams's courage and will to win was universally praised in the aftermath of his WBC heavyweight title challenger to Vitali Klitschko last month.

Now comes the revelation that the Londoner fought from the second round onwards with a serious, potentially career-threatening injury to his right shoulder.

The London-born 'Legend Killer' is currently awaiting the results of a MRI scan on his right arm and there are concerns Williams will require a second operation on the ligaments originally ripped apart during the 2000 fight with Mark Potter.

Williams had kept this re-injury secret because he didn't want to appear to be making excuses for his disappointingly non-competitive challenge to Klitschko. However, Williams told SecondsOut: "I felt something was wrong in the second round of the fight and the pain got worse as the fight went on. What happened was I missed a massive right hand, over-extended, and felt something go. It was really painful to move it and with getting knocked down and hurt so bad in the first round and cut for the first time in my life in the second round not a great deal went my way in the fight.

"I'm not sure if the arm completely popped out like it did against Mark Potter, but it was extremely painful and I couldn't generate any power. That's why I kept on walking forward trying to land one big left hook - that was the only shot I could hurt him with.

"I let it (that things weren't going to plan) get to me and just wanted to load up with one left hook to take him out and even when I was stopped I was still trying to do that. I kept trying to take it to him because the fight was for the heavyweight championship of the world and that means everything to me. But it wasn't my night."

The former British & Commonwealth Champion is mortified at the thought of the boxing public interpreting this news as an excuse for losing so badly.

"I lost the fight," he said. "I don't blame anyone or anything for what happened other than I didn't do what I was supposed to. It is the hurt business, this sport, and you can't complain when you get hurt in there. It was my decision to try that big right hand and load up so much. No one made me do that."

After returning to England on December 14, Williams sought the advice of St Mary's hospital surgeon operated on his shoulder after the Potter fight. He was then sent to a team of consultants at Milton Keynes and is now awaiting the results of the MRI scan.

He said: "The results will be known on January 5 and we'll know then how serious it is. I'm a little worried that the pain hasn't gone away yet - other than my shoulder I am completely healed up and ready to start training."

Despite his impressive KO wins over Kali Meehan and, of course, Mike Tyson, Londoner Williams took such a one-sided drumming from the Kiev colossus that even his own promoter, Frank Warren, initially advised him to retire. :confused:

Now, though, and independent of any official talk between promoters or HBO TV people, there is quite a buzz about Williams challenging WBO title-holder Lamon Brewster, a similarly lion-hearted heavyweight, in what would be an-out war. :confused: [ that's assuming that Brew beats Golota :confused: ]

But first Williams awaits those crucial MRI results.

Williams vs. Brew could be a good fight.

Williams vs. Brew could be a good fight.


Williams would have needed 4 arms to beat Klitschko. he ****ing sux. No disrespect.

Not like it matters. Even with his good arm he still got dominated in the first round and nearly knocked out.

Williams is full of ****.

Am i the only one tired of excuses.

Am i the only one tired of excuses.
nope me also....RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Williams wasnt injured against Vitali, but Tyson a was against Williams!! :rolleyes:

Fact is, Williams got his ass handed to him by the better man on the night and Tyson got his ass handed to him by the better man on the night, end of story!!

If you get in the ring then get injured who cares, its boxing not some ***** sport!!

Williams wasnt injured against Vitali, but Tyson a was against Williams!! :rolleyes:

Fact is, Williams got his ass handed to him by the better man on the night and Tyson got his ass handed to him by the better man on the night, end of story!!

If you get in the ring then get injured who cares, its boxing not some ***** sport!!

Exactly! Couldn't say it any better.

Why won't Williams go away? His 15 minutes of fame were up the first time Vitali thumped him in his ugly head...

Why won't Williams go away? His 15 minutes of fame were up the first time Vitali thumped him in his ugly head...

Erm... cos he knocked out Mike Tyson and made himself a household name. Nevermind the fact he just as good, if not better than everyone out there bar Klitchsko.

if williams says klitschko didnt beat him then williams didnt beat tyson

if williams says klitschko didnt beat him then williams didnt beat tyson
Well he said he did beat him and he wasn't making excuses so what's your point?

he should just accept the fact that he can could not beat vitali no matter what kind of shape hes in

Throughout the fight, he never moved his head and tried to really get inside on a consistent basis, he just walked into punches the whole fight. How could he possibly think he's going to land that big left when VK's jabbing him and keeping him at arm's length? He fought the fight of a fighter that didn't realize how difficult the fight was going to be until the fight actually started, and then was disheartened by the cold hard reality of it all. And besides, he threw quite a few rights later in the fight, he really tried to make a fight of it in the seventh, but VK backed up, like he always does.

If Williams really did hurt his arm then that's too bad...but he shouldn't expect any sympathy for his performance in the fight. He was ****ed anyway you look at it. Vitali showed him exactly what the fight was going to be like in the first round and he didn't have the chops to do anything about it.

Next time Vitali will tie his other hand behind his back & still beat him! ;)

Williams got a great payday....he should learn to keep quiet & stop making a total arse of himself!

Why won't Williams go away? His 15 minutes of fame were up the first time Vitali thumped him in his ugly head...

We shouldnt want Williams to go away, the guys a breath of fresh air in the heavyweight division!!

You never know which Williams will turn up for a fight!! He's either great or ****, he either KO's someone or get KO'd himself.

I'd like to see Toney vs Williams

Williams is just a one time lucky bum. He beat a gimped out version of Mike Tyson and that convinced certain morons he could beat Vitali Klitschko.

Dear Boxing fans,

I am sick and tired of people making lame excuses after a loss!!!

Sincerely,

Wlad Klitschko

Williams would have needed 4 arms to beat Klitschko. he ****ing sux. No disrespect.

haha..maan.its funny cause its true.

Williams would have needed 4 arms to beat Klitschko. he ****ing sux. No disrespect.

I had the very same idea! Everybody who saw his loss against Sam knew he wouldn´t have any chance :rolleyes: .

Why won't Williams go away? His 15 minutes of fame were up the first time Vitali thumped him in his ugly head...We're saying Danny's ugly now?

Sorry, but there does seem to be a tone of "reply first, READ later" to some of the posts around here lately.

Wasn't the whole point of the interview that Danny WASN'T using this as an excuse? Danny could still potentially win three of the belts and operate as a worthy contender at this level... we didn't get chance to find that out in December, unfortunately.

We shouldnt want Williams to go away, the guys a breath of fresh air in the heavyweight division!!

You never know which Williams will turn up for a fight!! He's either great or ****, he either KO's someone or get KO'd himself.

I'd like to see Toney vs WilliamsThat is SO spot on it's unbelievable! Yeah, Danny had serious disadvantages against Vit (NOT the arm, but the fact that the guy's about ten foot tall) but generally that's spot on... he's either great or ****.

As someone who's seen most of Danny's fights, rather than loud-mouthed morons who think they know all about him from two fights and see that he had a loss to Simal Sam on his record and constantly go on about it as if it makes them knowledgable, I've spent nights seeing how much better Danny is than domestic and how he could operate at world level.

Then I've seen other nights when he shouldn't even be in an amateur competition. Most of his fights - including that fight to Sam, but not really the one to Vit, not totally - are in his head. The guy has serious psychological issues that make his performances EXTREMELY unpredictable.

Having said that, I wouldn't like to see him up against Toney, who may be too cagey for him. Danny needs to beat contenders and champs (ie. Brewster) to convince everyone he's got a right to be in that company.

Danny is not making any excuses. He has accepted he got beat by a better man. But overall, he has wasted his career by never moving to the US to try to make a name for himself. What a dumbo. Audley Harrison is always right to taunt him about that.

Danny can still be a worthy contender in the Heavyweight Top 10. I'm sure he can beat the likes of Brewster and Ruiz. Rahman would be a good fight for him too.

Forget about Vitali people :cool: Lennox will take him down

Not like it matters. Even with his good arm he still got dominated in the first round and nearly knocked out.

True, I just don't think Williams is good enough to compete with top fighters in the heavyweight division.

Danny can still be a worthy contender in the Heavyweight Top 10. I'm sure he can beat the likes of Brewster and Ruiz. Rahman would be a good fight for him too.

Forget about Vitali people :cool: Lennox will take him down

Audley Harrison will take Vitali down :rolleyes: i havent seen him for a while, then he pops up on the Kylie with audience show!! he got a blast of Kylie shaking her booty in front of him(lucky ****er), then shook his fat belly back to her!! :p

I'd like to see Williams vs Rahman/Brewster/Ruiz/Toney. I'd give him a chance of winning all, and a chance embarrassing himself event further.

Audley Harrison will take Vitali down :rolleyes: i havent seen him for a while, then he pops up on the Kylie with audience show!! he got a blast of Kylie shaking her booty in front of him(lucky ****er), then shook his fat belly back to her!! :p

I'd like to see Williams vs Rahman/Brewster/Ruiz/Toney. I'd give him a chance of winning all, and a chance embarrassing himself event further.

I bet Audley got abit excited having Kylie shake her booty at him. :D He doesn't deserve that treatment yet lol

:D In the future when Audley progresses more he may give Vitali trouble because he has the size to bother him. (Thats if Audley turns out to be decent) It's painful watching smaller fighters fight Vitali because he uses his size so well. I think he would have stopped the Tyson of today even quicker than he did Danny because the Tyson of today has no heart.

Williams has got the tools to beat most heavyweights. He's like an old car engine, once you warm him up he's going strong but if you don't give him chance to get going a fight he'll just fizzle out. I agree that he would stand a good chance of beating the guys you mentioned apart from Toney. Danny has the power to take care of Toney but on a talent level Toney is far more superior. Thats why i don't think he'd beat Byrd because Byrd is built to outbox and win the long distance fight.

True, I just don't think Williams is good enough to compete with top fighters in the heavyweight division.
How many Williams fights have you seen then?

Danny. Please. If you are reading my post, then for Gods sake man, leave the UK and go the America. Do it now. Book that plane ticket and leave that crap trainer of yours behind.

Danny. Please. If you are reading my post, then for Gods sake man, leave the UK and go the America. Do it now. Book that plane ticket and leave that crap trainer of yours behind.

He's been in America training for months and its not done much good, i dont think changing training will help much because Williams problems are mental.

Maybe Roach would be better but i dont think it will make too much difference.

I have to admit that I haven't seen many of Danny's fights, against Tyson, I thought he showed alot of skill, but the punches he got cought with were hardly Tyson's best. I think he would still make waves if he fought someone who liked to fight on the inside, as he did a pretty good job of not being caught cleanly against Tyson after the first round. Maybe Brewster, or Rahman, but not Tua lol.

Dear Boxing fans,

I am sick and tired of people making lame excuses after a loss!!!

Sincerely,

Wlad Klitschko
:D :D :D

if williams says klitschko didnt beat him then williams didnt beat tyson

So true .

So true .No it's not true at all because HE NEVER EVEN SAID IT.

God, maybe I need to take a lie down or something. But all this "I haven't even read/understood the basic point of the thread but I'm going to debate it anyway" stuff is doing my head in lately.

How many Williams fights have you seen then?

No offense but his record and resume speaks for it self, hes just a very average fighter that can't compete with top heavyweights like Rahman,Toney,Klitcshk and others. Bad Karma just because you disagreed with me, c'mon now :D

I think Williams really was hurt, but so what? When you fight, you'd better expect to get hurt sometimes, that's just the way it works. VK has been seriously hurt too and we have to give him credit for not missing a overhand and re-injuring his shoulder like William's punk ass.

Williams would have needed 4 arms to beat Klitschko. he ****ing sux. No disrespect.

yeah, he didnt do ****.

Williams could've been hurt in the second round, I don't know. Somehow everyone forgets that he was knocked down and barely survived the first round. Does anyone honestly think that anything would have been diferrent if he wasn't hurt? I know that it's another one of those "what if" questions but I would be interested to know opinions.

Williams could've been hurt in the second round, I don't know. Somehow everyone forgets that he was knocked down and barely survived the first round. Does anyone honestly think that anything would have been diferrent if he wasn't hurt? I know that it's another one of those "what if" questions but I would be interested to know opinions.



sure it would've been completely different

Ive seen enough to relizae he sux and how bad Tyson has donward spiraled in his career!

Tyson hurt himself and would have finished williams other wise i am convinced of it after watching the fight several times. Willams is not a bum but he is close.

No it's not true at all because HE NEVER EVEN SAID IT.

God, maybe I need to take a lie down or something. But all this "I haven't even read/understood the basic point of the thread but I'm going to debate it anyway" stuff is doing my head in lately.

The statement:
IF williams says klitschko didnt beat him then williams didnt beat tyson
is not true!?

And while you are at it please tell me the basic point of this thread and please outline the boundries to which point the "simple minded" people may discuss the great news of Williams making excuses, by saying he does not make excuses. ;)

i saw the fight and it showed clearly how klitschko dominated williams. even if williams was a 100% healthy, i don't think he will beat vitali! vitali's reach made it harder for williams to connect. i don't know but there's something wrong with williams (is he undertrain?). is this his best weight? i mean, if he can move like tyson (i mean the tyson that became a champ) and connect those big right hand, then i think he's really got a chance to knock-down vitali. im not impressed really by the punching power of vitali and sure he could be knock-out. maybe rahman could knock him out or lewis (is he not making a comeback just to fight vitali?)

No offense but his record and resume speaks for it self, hes just a very average fighter that can't compete with top heavyweights like Rahman,Toney,Klitcshk and others. Bad Karma just because you disagreed with me, c'mon now :DI disagree again... some fighters can operate at a higher level than their resume would attest... Junior Witter and Howard Eastman haven't had many breaks on their respective CVs, yet are clearly operating below their abilities.

I'm not claiming Danny's top rate, but all this "journeyman" and "bum" stuff you hear is way off. Incidentally, if you want to compare form, the same Kali Meehan that Rahman took four rounds to dispose of was TKOed by Danny in under a minute. Rahman hits hard but is not technically a great fighter.

Williams had kept this re-injury secret because he didn't want to appear to be making excuses for his disappointingly non-competitive challenge to Klitschko.

The former British & Commonwealth Champion is mortified at the thought of the boxing public interpreting this news as an excuse for losing so badly.

"I lost the fight," he said. "I don't blame anyone or anything for what happened other than I didn't do what I was supposed to. It is the hurt business, this sport, and you can't complain when you get hurt in there.


= Williams is making excuses?!!!!?

Did Danny Williams fight with one arm? He looked just like That boxing dummy called B.O.B.(Body Opponent Bag) that doesn't have any arms and doesn't hit back! I think he was filled with cement in his lower half, not sand or water cause he wouldn't move.

beat one-legged Tyson, got over-confident, tried to pull another upset by facing Klitchko. but we all knew Danny Williams wasn't in the same league as Klitchko who's too big, too smart, too awkard.

I think that he should seriously consider beating the **** out of his corner. That was one of the worst corners I have seen in years. I could also trash him for his lack of fighting Vitaly but I am just tired. Give the man some credit. at least he actually fought Vitaly and was not like Toney who gets the shot and then misteriously gets injured :rolleyes:

No offense but his record and resume speaks for it self, hes just a very average fighter that can't compete with top heavyweights like Rahman,Toney,Klitcshk and others. Bad Karma just because you disagreed with me, c'mon now :D

You're right. His CV does speak for itself. It says he KO'd Kali Meehan in less than 60 seconds (and how long did it take Rahman?) and he is only 1 of 4 men to have ever have KO'd Mike Tyson. He might still be a tad untested at the highest level but there ain't no way a bloated crusierweight like Toney could KO him.

= Williams is making excuses?!!!!?

The seed of doubt is planted. One thing can be said and to get another message accross.

Example: "I will NOT say you are an ASSH0LE for giving bad karma"
;)

Did you catch it? ;) :D :D

I tell you what, KJ, you're an arse and a half.

Let's look at it this way: say Mesi had lost his last fight. I mean, LOST it, not lost it and then got given a gift for being a pretty boy. He would still have had to have gone for a scan on that blood on his brain. And the story would have still got out. So people would say he was making excuses.

Danny having arm surgery is news that will be reported, no?

You know, there's never not a time that I feel like putting the letters T, N U and C in reverse order to describe you.

I tell you what, KJ, you're an arse and a half.

Let's look at it this way: say Mesi had lost his last fight. I mean, LOST it, not lost it and then got given a gift for being a pretty boy. He would still have had to have gone for a scan on that blood on his brain. And the story would have still got out. So people would say he was making excuses.

Danny having arm surgery is news that will be reported, no?

You know, there's never not a time that I feel like putting the letters T, N U and C in reverse order to describe you.
Hey injuries happen in boxing all the time. For example Vitaly hurt both of his hands in a second round but nobody is comparing him with Holyfield or Marciano in terms of heart. ;)

What was wrong with his neck? If nothing was wrong with it, it seems he would have no problem moving his head.

I tell you what, KJ, you're an arse and a half.

Let's look at it this way: say Mesi had lost his last fight. I mean, LOST it, not lost it and then got given a gift for being a pretty boy. He would still have had to have gone for a scan on that blood on his brain. And the story would have still got out. So people would say he was making excuses.

Danny having arm surgery is news that will be reported, no?

You know, there's never not a time that I feel like putting the letters T, N U and C in reverse order to describe you.

Well I really do not mind being and arse and a half; at least i am not the one who does the name calling :D and flame people for agreeing with a statements like:

IF williams says klitschko didnt beat him then williams didnt beat tyson.

Sure it is big news he hurt his arm, and feel completely free to intelectually debate this in the most possible detail, but leave some space for other people to take it in another direction.

And I am really very sorry if I offended you after you started shooting in my direction. ;)

(BTW I always get certain joyous feeling thinking about a "tnuc" in reverse, did you mean that feeling when are "always wanting to describe" me ;) :D )

Danny has more excuses then holyfield and tyson combined. The truth is he was a bum, that was overated for beating up old tyson, and had NO buisness fighting for the title.

He made a mockery of the heavywieght championship belt. And Vitaly fed the fire by fighting this farce of a fighter.