Concerning a previous thread where Botha is listed as one of the worse champs of all time. I agree, but Botha was NEVER champ!
This is the evidence: http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003307

It is Botha's record and clearly states that Botha's `win` over Axel Schulz was changed to a no contest when Botha tested positive for steroids. However...James Toney's situation is exactly the same as Botha's however no one thinks Toney is a former WBA champ!
So what gives? How is Botha regarded as a former champ while Toney isn't?

who ta hell cares

Concerning a previous thread where Botha is listed as one of the worse champs of all time. I agree, but Botha was NEVER champ!
This is the evidence: http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003307

It is Botha's record and clearly states that Botha's `win` over Axel Schulz was changed to a no contest when Botha tested positive for steroids. However...James Toney's situation is exactly the same as Botha's however no one thinks Toney is a former WBA champ!
So what gives? How is Botha regarded as a former champ while Toney isn't?
your right about botha just never cared about him so it went over my head ..i still think of toney as a champ