them_apples
02-10-2012, 12:51 AM
Jerry Quarry vs Henry Cooper
What do you think? both fights who's the winners
What do you think? both fights who's the winners
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View Full Version : Ron Lyle Vs Cleveland Williams them_apples 02-10-2012, 12:51 AM Jerry Quarry vs Henry Cooper What do you think? both fights who's the winners poet682006 02-10-2012, 01:07 AM Jerry Quarry vs Henry Cooper What do you think? both fights who's the winners Williams - Lyle is pick 'em, Quarry - Cooper is Quarry all the way. Poet Scott9945 02-10-2012, 01:15 AM Williams - Lyle is pick 'em, Quarry - Cooper is Quarry all the way. Poet Agree 100%. Quarry would bust up Cooper bigtime. The Surgeon 02-10-2012, 02:01 AM I think Lyle swamps Williams and gets a KO, never really rated Big Cat.... Quarry destroys Cooper them_apples 02-10-2012, 02:51 AM big cat hit HELLA hard. Might not have had the best chin, but either did Lyle. Cooper in an underated boxer I would not be so quick to write him off. His jab was clean and sharp. DarkTerror88 02-14-2012, 12:21 AM Williams has the slight advantage in power, Lyle the slight advantage in durability. Lyle was a bit faster, more skilled with better basic fundamentals and better stamina. In an all out war with small advantages in chin and power canceling each other out. Lyle has the intangibles and other advantages that give him the edge in a fan friendly fight. Lyle KO 5 Williams. Cooper hit harder and had a better jab, but quarry was faster, had better defense and was game himself. I think Jerry has the tools to dominate Ol Enry at both their peaks. Quarry was just such a fluid versatile guy that he can beat. Most contenders and even some champions. Quarry wide UD 15 or 12. TheGreatA 02-14-2012, 10:18 AM Williams has the slight advantage in power, Lyle the slight advantage in durability. Lyle was a bit faster, more skilled with better basic fundamentals and better stamina. In an all out war with small advantages in chin and power canceling each other out. Lyle has the intangibles and other advantages that give him the edge in a fan friendly fight. Lyle KO 5 Williams. Cooper hit harder and had a better jab, but quarry was faster, had better defense and was game himself. I think Jerry has the tools to dominate Ol Enry at both their peaks. Quarry was just such a fluid versatile guy that he can beat. Most contenders and even some champions. Quarry wide UD 15 or 12. I'd give Williams the speed advantage over Lyle. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wWbpM99wD2M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> New England 02-14-2012, 10:29 AM I'd give Williams the speed advantage over Lyle. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wWbpM99wD2M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> supremely gifted athlete still leaning with toward lyle kayo in five, six, maybe seven rounds quarry via corner // doctor stoppage today or via old fashioned beatdown if it happened 50 years ago for the purposes of the discussion this was the only tale of the tape i could find for williams on short notice http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/11/20/1225800/889286-1966-how-muhammad-ali-and-cleveland-williams-mat-6492739-jpg.jpg them_apples 02-14-2012, 04:20 PM supremely gifted athlete still leaning with toward lyle kayo in five, six, maybe seven rounds quarry via corner // doctor stoppage today or via old fashioned beatdown if it happened 50 years ago for the purposes of the discussion this was the only tale of the tape i could find for williams on short notice http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/11/20/1225800/889286-1966-how-muhammad-ali-and-cleveland-williams-mat-6492739-jpg.jpg that tale of the tape is wrong. Williams is 6'4 minimum 6'3. I mean look at him vs Ali. Foreman also said Williams was one of the hardest hitters he ever faced, as did Ali. That and just about everyone knows Ali's reach was 80. MRBOOMER 02-14-2012, 04:35 PM Never seen to many sonny fights but from watching that I didn't know he was able to impose his will so well and get to where he need to be. But from that I don't see this all time great jab I see a jab that was excellent for getting him in to range and platoon but not so much for scoring or damage Like a Holmes or Ali jab but I've not seen all of sonny and there are different ways to to label a all time great jab so idk Capaedia 02-14-2012, 05:13 PM Never seen to many sonny fights but from watching that I didn't know he was able to impose his will so well and get to where he need to be. But from that I don't see this all time great jab I see a jab that was excellent for getting him in to range and platoon but not so much for scoring or damage Like a Holmes or Ali jab but I've not seen all of sonny and there are different ways to to label a all time great jab so idk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYA4qt-LBmA&feature=player_detailpage#t=112s Ignore the commentator, that's a jab. New England 02-14-2012, 05:20 PM that tale of the tape is wrong. Williams is 6'4 minimum 6'3. I mean look at him vs Ali. Foreman also said Williams was one of the hardest hitters he ever faced, as did Ali. That and just about everyone knows Ali's reach was 80. take it up with whoever did the measurements i was not alive Tiozzo 02-14-2012, 06:10 PM Jerry Quarry vs Henry Cooper What do you think? both fights who's the winners Cooper vs Quarry : battle of the bleeders Cooper was a very good fighter I give it to Quarry because Cooper was a more notorious bleeder, TKO 6 or 7 Williams wins the first few rounds, Lyle survives, than Lyle starts to do damage Lyle by stoppage in 8 them_apples 02-16-2012, 12:45 AM Never seen to many sonny fights but from watching that I didn't know he was able to impose his will so well and get to where he need to be. But from that I don't see this all time great jab I see a jab that was excellent for getting him in to range and platoon but not so much for scoring or damage Like a Holmes or Ali jab but I've not seen all of sonny and there are different ways to to label a all time great jab so idk Sonny Liston was a beast most people only have seen him vs Ali. There was a reason Ali was so scared of Liston. Liston smashed everyone. |