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Barn
02-03-2012, 09:05 PM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage?

How do you view the Hurricane Carter case?

Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight?

Why did Duran say "No Mas", what was going on in his head?

How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight?

Answer some, none, or all of these questions to get some discussion going.

IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 09:28 PM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage?

Whether or not it will be found I don't know. But some has been recorded.

How do you view the Hurricane Carter case?

Don't really care about it but the man was a first class idiot.

Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight?

No.

Why did Duran say "No Mas", what was going on in his head?

I'm going to lose.

How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight?

None.

Answer some, none, or all of these questions to get some discussion going.


Answers above.

Barn
02-03-2012, 09:34 PM
Answers above.
Do you not think the Duran thing was a little deeper than that? He didn't quit when he was beaten against DeJesus. I think a good explanation is something I heard from somewhere else. Basically that Duran thought quitting against this "clown" who wouldn't fight would make him seem more macho in the eyes of his fans. However the plan completely backfired.

What do you think of that?

Also I agree with all your other opinions apart from the Carter one. I agree he was a moron but, I find the case quite interesting.

Scott9945
02-03-2012, 09:38 PM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage?

I think it would have turned up by now if it existed.

How do you view the Hurricane Carter case?

It was probably a dubious conviction, but I'm not convinced that Carter didn't do it. He certainly wasn't the saint that he's been portrayed as.

Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight?

Next question :grumble:

Why did Duran say "No Mas", what was going on in his head?

He was feeling the effects of rapid weight loss and shoddy conditioning. Duran knew it wasn't going to end well and didn't want to be humiliated.

How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight?

Big difference. Roy may have beaten him every time, but that sure wasn't the same Toney who destroyed Iran Barkley and Prince Charles Williams.

Answer some, none, or all of these questions to get some discussion going.


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IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 09:40 PM
Do you not think the Duran thing was a little deeper than that? He didn't quit when he was beaten against DeJesus. I think a good explanation is something I heard from somewhere else. Basically that Duran thought quitting against this "clown" who wouldn't fight would make him seem more macho in the eyes of his fans. However the plan completely backfired.

What do you think of that?

Also I agree with all your other opinions apart from the Carter one. I agree he was a moron but, I find the case quite interesting.

I just think it was a mixture of his frustration and some crazy thinking in the heat of the moment.

I think as soon as he did it he thought to himself why did I do that?

I was too young to remember the whole fiasco when it actually happened and I didn't follow the trials and what not years later either but the Bob Dylan song is pretty good :lol1: The film's pretty good too, I'm a big fan of Denzel Washington. Just funny because Ruben Carter was not like that at all really.

Barn
02-03-2012, 09:41 PM
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Interesting, especially the Toney one. I don't think it would have differed the outcome that night. Maybe made it a little closer but, Jones was a sensation there.

Barn
02-03-2012, 09:43 PM
I just think it was a mixture of his frustration and some crazy thinking in the heat of the moment.

I think as soon as he did it he thought to himself why did I do that?

I was too young to remember the whole fiasco when it actually happened and I didn't follow the trials and what not years later either but the Bob Dylan song is pretty good :lol1: The film's pretty good too, I'm a big fan of Denzel Washington. Just funny because Ruben Carter was not like that at all really.
Never seen the movie, is it worth picking up?

Yeah the Dylan song is great, one I've got playing all the time now. Weird as I point out in my head what I'm singing to myself is inaccurate. :lol1:

My main gripe with the Carter case is I think he did it. But, he then goes and sets up some Organization for Miscarriage of Justice, or something like that.

IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 09:48 PM
Never seen the movie, is it worth picking up?

Yeah the Dylan song is great, one I've got playing all the time now. Weird as I point out in my head what I'm singing to myself is inaccurate. :lol1:

My main gripe with the Carter case is I think he did it. But, he then goes and sets up some Organization for Miscarriage of Justice, or something like that.

Yeah, it's worth a watch.

Inaccurate and in some places complete and utter fiction but it's a good watch and Denzel as always is exceptional.

Yeah, to be honest, I never pay attention in that kind of thing.

I'm a Boxing fan and whilst obviously if a Boxer I know is involved in that kind of thing outside the ring I keep an eye on it but I never look into it thoroughly. I just don't care about it in all honesty.

The whole Ali thing back in the day, didn't care.

Floyd Mayweather's trials recently, don't care. Didn't read a single article on it, other than the "MAYWEATHER IS GOING TO JAIL" one :lol1:

And Mayweather is my favourite active fighter.

It's just something I don't care about. I only care for what they do in Boxing, personally.

Barn
02-03-2012, 09:51 PM
Yeah, it's worth a watch.

Inaccurate and in some places complete and utter fiction but it's a good watch and Denzel as always is exceptional.

Yeah, to be honest, I never pay attention in that kind of thing.

I'm a Boxing fan and whilst obviously if a Boxer I know is involved in that kind of thing outside the ring I keep an eye on it but I never look into it thoroughly. I just don't care about it in all honesty.

The whole Ali thing back in the day, didn't care.

Floyd Mayweather's trials recently, don't care. Didn't read a single article on it, other than the "MAYWEATHER IS GOING TO JAIL" one :lol1:

And Mayweather is my favourite active fighter.

It's just something I don't care about. I only care for what they do in Boxing, personally.
On a completely un-related note. FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION. I'm ranked 156 in the UK and like 1075 in the world :lol1:

Win streak of 19 I actually think I'm unbeatable.

IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 09:56 PM
On a completely un-related note. FIGHT NIGHT CHAMPION. I'm ranked 156 in the UK and like 1075 in the world :lol1:

Win streak of 19 I actually think I'm unbeatable.

Isn't that that game that's supposed to be a simulation yet it's about as much a sim as Mortal Kombat 2 on the Sega Megadrive?

Barn
02-03-2012, 09:57 PM
Isn't that that game that's supposed to be a simulation yet it's about as much a sim as Mortal Kombat 2 on the Sega Megadrive?
Something along those lines yeah.

Earlier I KO'd Jones Jr in 8 with Marvelous so it must be semi-realistic.

IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 09:59 PM
Something along those lines yeah.

Earlier I KO'd Jones Jr in 8 with Marvelous so it must be semi-realistic.

I knocked out Ray Leonard in like 5 rounds with Gamboa.

Barn
02-03-2012, 10:00 PM
I knocked out Ray Leonard in like 5 rounds with Gamboa.
Not even lying I UD'd Muhammad Ali with Jake LaMotta and he got cut and I never.

joseph5620
02-03-2012, 10:44 PM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage?
No.
How do you view the Hurricane Carter case?
Hard to say.
Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight?
Yes
Why did Duran say "No Mas", what was going on in his head?
I have no chance of winnning. Why go on?
How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight?
very little if any. Toney had been doing that in previous fights with no problems.Answer some, none, or all of these questions to get some discussion going.

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NChristo
02-04-2012, 09:48 AM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage?
Yes

How do you view the Hurricane Carter case?
Don't really care for it or bothered to look into it, doesn't interest me.

Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight?
Yes


How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight?
Coming that much down in weight would have definitely affected him, right he'd have been doing it his whole career and been getting away with it fine and dandy because he was still a level above who he was facing, but this time he was drained and was also in there against someone just as good if not better in Jr.

McGoorty
02-07-2012, 09:55 AM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage? No, I doubt it at this late stage, even Klompton couldnt find it

How do you view the Hurricane Carter case? I dont have a view, saw the movie, I believe he was aquitted finally so I accept that decision, thats all I know about it

Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight? I've given up on it, and the longer it takes, the less I'll care, if they fight, I hope Manny destroys him

Why did Duran say "No Mas", what was going on in his head? I think that with all the fury and anger he carried into the ring backfired as Leonard kept away and made Duran feel confused, belittled and there was seemingly nothing he could do about it (at least in Durans mind),,, but above all I believe that Roberto simply got so darn mad that he had a meltdown,,,,, he was like an old time Roman of Scipio Africanus's era,, where Gravitas (extreme overblown pride) was the mark of a noble man,,, I think Ray understood Duran better than Duran understood himself and knew the ONE way to get under Durans skin, and with the loss of his own gravitas he quit,,, it must have been very hard for Durans pride to lose like that

How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight? I cant offer an informed opinion

Answer some, none, or all of these questions to get some discussion going. Thought provoking questions

Tiozzo
02-07-2012, 04:01 PM
Do you think we will ever find Greb footage?

It's not impossible, but unlikely.

How do you view the Hurricane Carter case?

Not really got an opinion on the case.

Will Pacquiao and Mayweather ever fight?

Sure, but maybe too late after they both lost.

Why did Duran say "No Mas", what was going on in his head?

This clown is clowning my arse.

How big a difference did James Toney's weight loss make in the Jones fight?

Jones has too much athletic ability, Jones beats Toney on his best night. He didn't look at his very best that night though, perhaps a bit weak.

Answer some, none, or all of these questions to get some discussion going.

it'S in the pudding