View Full Version : Esteban DeJesus HOF worthy?


Barn
02-03-2012, 05:40 PM
I think he is, not only was he a splendid crafty boxer who could hit well, he also holds a win over prime Roberto Duran! Held a LW title and defended against good contenders before losing it to Duran again.

Wins.
Roberto Duran who was actually champion at the time. (HOF)
Guts Ishimatsu. (LW Champ.)
Alfonso Fraser (JWW Champ.)
Edwin Viruet (Top contender.)
Ray Lampkin (Top contender.)
In his 3 defences all were ranked in the Top 10 by the Ring.

He also scored to beautiful knockdown's of Duran, especially the first one.

Do you think this qualifies for HOF?

joseph5620
02-03-2012, 06:14 PM
I think he is, not only was he a splendid crafty boxer who could hit well, he also holds a win over prime Roberto Duran! Held a LW title and defended against good contenders before losing it to Duran again.

Wins.
Roberto Duran who was actually champion at the time. (HOF)
Guts Ishimatsu. (LW Champ.)
Alfonso Fraser (JWW Champ.)
Edwin Viruet (Top contender.)
Ray Lampkin (Top contender.)
In his 3 defences all were ranked in the Top 10 by the Ring.

He also scored to beautiful knockdown's of Duran, especially the first one.

Do you think this qualifies for HOF?

Based on who has been chosen for the BHOF, yes.

IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 08:01 PM
He's in the HOF. Isn't he?

Barn
02-03-2012, 08:03 PM
He's in the HOF. Isn't he?
Not the IBHOF. Which to my knowledge is the most respected one.

IronDanHamza
02-03-2012, 08:06 PM
Not the IBHOF. Which to my knowledge is the most respected one.

Ahh, but he's in the other one I believe.

If a fighter is to be inducted in either one of those I consider them to be HOF'ers.

Barn
02-03-2012, 08:10 PM
Ahh, but he's in the other one I believe.

If a fighter is to be inducted in either one of those I consider them to be HOF'ers.
I don't feel that way, the IBHOF is a much more exclusive club. For example Guts Ishimatsu is in the WBHF but, not the IBHOF. There's a distinct difference in where their line is drawn.

Still Barry McGuigan found his way into both? :thinking:

crold1
02-03-2012, 08:12 PM
Ahh, but he's in the other one I believe.

If a fighter is to be inducted in either one of those I consider them to be HOF'ers.

That's fair but the IBHOF is what most are usually referring too when they say HOFer. Arguments about the bar being too low there are exploded at World Hall which has let in guys like Chuvalo (NOT a HOFer in any sense).

DeJesus killing that kid probably has something to do with his exclusion to date.

Barn
02-03-2012, 08:15 PM
That's fair but the IBHOF is what most are usually referring too when they say HOFer. Arguments about the bar being too low there are exploded at World Hall which has let in guys like Chuvalo (NOT a HOFer in any sense).

DeJesus killing that kid probably has something to do with his exclusion to date.
Yeah, maybe. He was also rumoured to be a homosexual and I'm not saying it has done but, it might affect his chances if some of the voting committee are religious or whatever.

Chuvalo as a person, is a HOF, ATG etc in my eyes. :)

joseph5620
02-03-2012, 08:17 PM
That's fair but the IBHOF is what most are usually referring too when they say HOFer. Arguments about the bar being too low there are exploded at World Hall which has let in guys like Chuvalo (NOT a HOFer in any sense).

DeJesus killing that kid probably has something to do with his exclusion to date.












I forgot about that and it makes sense now. I'm sure that does have a lot to do with it.

Barn
02-03-2012, 08:20 PM
That's fair but the IBHOF is what most are usually referring too when they say HOFer. Arguments about the bar being too low there are exploded at World Hall which has let in guys like Chuvalo (NOT a HOFer in any sense).

DeJesus killing that kid probably has something to do with his exclusion to date.

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crold1
02-03-2012, 08:20 PM
Yeah, maybe. He was also rumoured to be a homosexual and I'm not saying it has done but, it might affect his chances if some of the voting committee are religious or whatever.

Chuvalo as a person, is a HOF, ATG etc in my eyes. :)

I feel safe guessing that sexuality has nothing to do with it. Agree on the person, but that's a different matter.