View Full Version : If you gonna rank EL Guapo in MMA's ATG?

john lednnon
02-01-2012, 12:36 AM
You think he can make it to top 10?

Virgil Caine
02-01-2012, 01:07 AM
To me he's top 10.

02-01-2012, 01:59 AM
I don't think so

Virgil Caine
02-01-2012, 02:11 AM
In no particular order, let me try to list 10 HWs who could be ATG status at this point in time.

Big Nog
Cro Cop


After them, maybe guys like Ricco Rodriguez and Frank Mir (it pains me to say). Somewhat down the list, say possibly top 20? Guys like Tim Sylvia. Guys who could be in the list based on pioneering status and career longevity? Don Frye. I'd definitely put Bas in the company above the dotted line.

Guys who could make the cut in the future if their careers develop properly? JDS, Overeem.

Virgil Caine
02-01-2012, 02:13 AM
Also, let's not forget that Bas' losses all came early when he was basically a pure kickboxer still. He was unbeaten in 21 fights after that, which is the sort of streak which only Fedor rivals.

-2 Scrappy-
02-01-2012, 03:14 PM
Hell no unless your only talking about heavyweights. Dude got a terrible decision over randleman and really his best wins are over middleweight frank shamrock.

However I think Frank Shamrock is a ATG that man in his prime was unbelievaby beastly.

F l i c k e r
02-01-2012, 03:33 PM
Yes. He was a beast and really only retired because of a knee injury. No telling what he could have continued to do or how long he could have done it.

Barry Halls
02-01-2012, 04:42 PM
top10 hw? top10 p4p?

What's even his 5 best wins?

Frank Shamrock,
Guy Mezger?

I mean honestly i can't even tally up his five best wins. I guess I wasn't around back then. Is randleman a top5 win?

Unknown Champ
02-01-2012, 04:45 PM
I had randleman beating him in their bout, just saying

Barry Halls
02-01-2012, 04:56 PM
Unknown Champ,

is that picture of Gina photoshoped? looks like it. :(