I for some reason have never liked the guy but it just came to me given the state of the HW division right now where do you think he would be now and/or how much of a player would he be for instance if he was granted a pass to compete again?I feel like he was waiting to be exposed ny a good fighter considering his outings with Barrett and Jirov were heading downhill at the end of the fight which were 10 rounders not 12 in which champions have to fight.

I think Mesi would be right in this, I think that the end of the jirov fight was fluky. He has very decent power and good skills for a heavyweight.

I for some reason have never liked the guy but it just came to me given the state of the HW division right now where do you think he would be now and/or how much of a player would he be for instance if he was granted a pass to compete again?I feel like he was waiting to be exposed ny a good fighter considering his outings with Barrett and Jirov were heading downhill at the end of the fight which were 10 rounders not 12 in which champions have to fight.

I don't know, Jirov almost killed him out there. Jirov can pack a punch but imagine if Brewster got him... I think he should stay out.

I don't know, Jirov almost killed him out there. Jirov can pack a punch but imagine if Brewster got him... I think he should stay out.
I agree was just wondering what other posters thought....He is like a white out of prime Tyson he is very dangerous early and very aggresive but seems to run out of gas and have very little defense later in fights.

Mesi kicked ASS! He ****ed up Davarrly Williamson 1 million times better than Wlad did (who I think lost that fight).

He could beat everyone of the top heavy's right now except for James Toney, Wlad and Sam Peter.

I remember after the Jirov fight (or was it before?) he wanted to get a fight against Tyson. As shot as Tyson is, after the brain damage Jirov gave him, Mesi really may have been killed if he'd have fought Tyson, since Mike does have a few good rounds in him.

I remember after the Jirov fight (or was it before?) he wanted to get a fight against Tyson. As shot as Tyson is, after the brain damage Jirov gave him, Mesi really may have been killed if he'd have fought Tyson, since Mike does have a few good rounds in him.
True thats right but it would be a hell of a 2 or 3 rounds and given what I can tell from Mesis chin Mike could still one punch KO him if it lands right.....he made a huge mistake by fight Williams and McBride given their sizes he could still beat an average guy his size who can't take his beginning frurries.

Mesi kicked ASS! He ****ed up Davarrly Williamson 1 million times better than Wlad did (who I think lost that fight).

He could beat everyone of the top heavy's right now except for James Toney, Wlad and Sam Peter.

Gimme a break, like someone on this board said a long time ago, Williamson was moving around the ring like he was wearing high heels that night.

Toney would school him every round, Wlad would probably KO him, he could have a chance against Peter, he had a pretty good speed and could avoid Peter's punches. Brewster kills Mesi, 50/50 with Rahman.

Gimme a break, like someone on this board said a long time ago, Williamson was moving around the ring like he was wearing high heels that night.

Toney would school him every round, Wlad would probably KO him, he could have a chance against Peter, he had a pretty good speed and could avoid Peter's punches. Brewster kills Mesi, 50/50 with Rahman.
I think Peter would destroy him Mesi has nowhere the skill as Wlad and Peter showed he is no joke and can take some shots...Peter KO Mesi within 6 IMO.

I think Peter would destroy him Mesi has nowhere the skill as Wlad and Peter showed he is no joke and can take some shots...Peter KO Mesi within 6 IMO.

Ya, as I said, he would have a chance but it wouldn't be big enough for me to bet on it :)

I for some reason have never liked the guy but it just came to me given the state of the HW division right now where do you think he would be now and/or how much of a player would he be for instance if he was granted a pass to compete again?I feel like he was waiting to be exposed ny a good fighter considering his outings with Barrett and Jirov were heading downhill at the end of the fight which were 10 rounders not 12 in which champions have to fight.


Something a little like this. The guy had power though, no disputing that.

Something a little like this. The guy had power though, no disputing that.

I saw that image and have to watch that fight again. Still cannot believe the beating that Mesi took in rounds 9 and 10. I am now wondering if Mesi would still be fighting today if the ref stopped the fight after the 2nd KO.

Mesi's first knockdown in that fight came from an illegal rabbit punch. After that the damage was done. He had a great chin against some tough guys before that.

And gimme a break about Tyson beating him. He was suppose to take on Tyson but when he got hurt Tyson went with McBride. If he couldn;t beat McBride then he couldn't beat a top ten heavy.

Mesi was not the greatest but he was fun to watch and had a shot. Great power along with some top notch skill. He will be back. His hearing is next month at the Nevada State supreme court. It is also rumored that he might fight Holyfield on the undercard in Germany for Ruiz.

Mesi would be just like Wladimir Klitschko...can't take a punch so never a serious threat

Sorry fuego, cnat read your post. Your on my list boy.

Mesi would be just like Wladimir Klitschko...can't take a punch so never a serious threat



Wladimir>Mesi.

Wladimir>Mesi.


So let me get this right. Wlad has no chin and eeked out a UD against a guy with no skill (Peter). But Mesi (former #1 WBC conteder, #4 IBF and #7 WBA). And Wlad is better. I admit that Mesi is not the greatest. But if Wlad fought Mesi it wouldn't be close. He has just as much power as Peter and 5 times the skill.

I liked Mesi, but he didn't have a lot of skill. He may have developed into a good boxer, but that was not meant to be.

So let me get this right. Wlad has no chin and eeked out a UD against a guy with no skill (Peter). But Mesi (former #1 WBC conteder, #4 IBF and #7 WBA). And Wlad is better. I admit that Mesi is not the greatest. But if Wlad fought Mesi it wouldn't be close. He has just as much power as Peter and 5 times the skill.


Compare their records. I admit, Wlad is my favorite boxer, but his record compared to Mesi's is CLEARLY better. Jirov is one of my favorite fighters, but do you know what Wlad would have done to him? He would have butchered Jirov, and Mesi barely survived him. We should not even be discussing this.

Compare their records. I admit, Wlad is my favorite boxer, but his record compared to Mesi's is CLEARLY better. Jirov is one of my favorite fighters, but do you know what Wlad would have done to him? He would have butchered Jirov, and Mesi barely survived him. We should not even be discussing this.


Wlad has some better wins, but also has some very poor losses.

It is by no means a no contest debate.

So let me get this right. Wlad has no chin and eeked out a UD against a guy with no skill (Peter). But Mesi (former #1 WBC conteder, #4 IBF and #7 WBA). And Wlad is better. I admit that Mesi is not the greatest. But if Wlad fought Mesi it wouldn't be close. He has just as much power as Peter and 5 times the skill.

Mesi hit as hard as Peter? Yea right. He may have "5 times the skill" that Peter has but Peter has 10 times the chin Mesi has. Mesi loses badly to everyone- WLAD KO in 2, PETER KO in 4, Toney lopsided UD, Rahman TKO in 5, Byrd lopsided UD, Maskaev late round TKO but this would be closer.

Mesi hit as hard as Peter? Yea right. He may have "5 times the skill" that Peter has but Peter has 10 times the chin Mesi has. Mesi loses badly to everyone- WLAD KO in 2, PETER KO in 4, Toney lopsided UD, Rahman TKO in 5, Byrd lopsided UD, Maskaev late round TKO but this would be closer.
Not raggin on you, this is general and using your post as proof.... Do some people seem to forget that probabley the best HWT or 2nd behind Toney atm is Lamon Brewster? Everytime i see Opponent_001, could he win title? They mention how everyone would do against them but leave out brewster...oh well I agree with your list except, Brewster KO 1-2....Again was a general statment not directly singling you out :)

Not raggin on you, this is general and using your post as proof.... Do some people seem to forget that probabley the best HWT or 2nd behind Toney atm is Lamon Brewster? Everytime i see Opponent_001, could he win title? They mention how everyone would do against them but leave out brewster...oh well I agree with your list except, Brewster KO 1-2....Again was a general statment not directly singling you out :)

No offense takin, I did forget about Brewster. Agreed, Brewster via KO 2

He was a good heavyweight, he would probably be pretty competitive in the division if he was here. I don't think he would have won the title though.

I only saw this guy's last couple of fights so maybe I haven't got a good view of it.

From what I could see, he was a pretty boy that could draw the crowds but no more than a third-tier boxer. I remember Audley Harrison watching his fight in a studio discussion and saying afterwards that he could probably beat both Mesi and Barrett but didn't want to take the risk (this shows how long ago this was) as it would put him in the top 20 of the world and he wasn't ready for that yet.

Even though I thought Audley was **** at the time (and don't think much more of him now) there wasn't a doubt in my mind that Audley of three, four years back could have taken them both out quite easily.

I liked Mesi, but he didn't have a lot of skill. He may have developed into a good boxer, but that was not meant to be.

He had all the skill in the world. What he lacked was a CHIN. He's just like Wladimir in every way. That fight is 50/50

Wlad vs Mesi would have been an awesome fight.

I'll give him his due. Some people seem to irrationally hate on Mesi, but given the state of the division, Mesi definitely would be in the mix for a title right now. He could beat Byrd, who's ready for the taking. He could beat Rahman. He'd have a 50-50 shot with Ruiz and Brewster. Brewster would be tough to beat.

Jirov can **** up anyone when he hits them in the back of the head full force.

He had all the skill in the world. What he lacked was a CHIN. He's just like Wladimir in every way. That fight is 50/50

You think he was as skillful as Wlad? No way, but both hit hard and have suspect chins

Mesi was much better than his critics like to remember. He'd be 50-50 to beat Byrd or Ruiz in an honest fight, but likely the big boys would knock him down for the count. Whoever thinks Mesi could beat Peter has to be seriously disturbed or brain damaged. I doubt Peter would need more than a few rounds to dispose of Mesi.

i used to like mesi, but then i realized how weak his chin is and how lucky he got in his "big name" fights.

TOS: mesi wins by 1st round KO.
barrett: mesi gets dropped in round 12 and sqeaks away with a MD.
jirov: mesi gets dropped once in round 11 and twice in round 12 and gets away with a somewhat questionable UD.

if he got dropped by a feather fisted barrett and damn near got KOd by a blown up CW in jirov, he wouldnt stand a ****ing chance against real opposition.

So everyone agrees that Wlads "blowout" of williamson was much better than Mesi's right?

And Toney barely won against Jirov and all of yall say he is the best heavy But when Mesi kick's Jirovs ass for 9 round then gets a nice shot to the back of the head he's trash.

Toney might be able to take Mesi but he sure as hell wouldn't KO him.

Just stop hating and agree that he would be in the mix.

So everyone agrees that Wlads "blowout" of williamson was much better than Mesi's right?

And Toney barely won against Jirov and all of yall say he is the best heavy But when Mesi kick's Jirovs ass for 9 round then gets a nice shot to the back of the head he's trash.

Toney might be able to take Mesi but he sure as hell wouldn't KO him.

Just stop hating and agree that he would be in the mix.
mesi was one of the most overhyped HWs since gerry cooney.

the only things mesi had going for him was his power and his heart. his chin was weak, his stamina wasnt noteworthy, his skill was mediocre, and he had no better than average speed.

i dont think mesi could beat any of the HW title holders right now.

He'll be cleared next month a we will see.

He'll be cleared next month a we will see.
dont hold your breath.

He'll be cleared next month a we will see.


show me something reliable that says he will be cleared please.