View Full Version : USA Today exposes Dana White's "Best In The World" only in UFC crap


monaroCountry
01-02-2012, 07:01 AM
From Dagwood@ global mma

Looks like you can't fool all of the MMA people all of the time.

I've been saying for a long time that Dana & the Fertitta's relentless efforts to takeover MMA everywhere would be a double-edged sword for them. The bigger their empire gets and the more mainstream they try and take it... the more exposure they are going to get to 'rea'l journalists & 'real' sports analysts from 'real' sports media organizations.

Looks like things are finally starting to catch up with the Zuffa brain-trust from big time sports media that aren't intimidate by them at all. Their businesses go on with or without access to the UFC. There's going to be more and more critical commentary along with more and more tough questions from them to come. Be careful what you wish for boys... :D




"But Coker has always argued that his best fighters can thrive against any top talent, even those in UFC. It was an unprovable claim until Zuffa bought Strikeforce this year and quickly moved three of its champions to UFC: welterweight Nick Diaz; light-heavyweight Dan Henderson; and heavyweight Alistair Overeem.

Turns out Coker had a point." - USA Today


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Before his company bought Strikeforce, Zuffa President Dana White used to deride the rival promotion as a haven mostly for talent that was overrated, overpriced, over the hill, or some combination of all 3. The immediate success of Diaz and Henderson against 2 of mixed martial arts' all-time greats vindicates the scouting capabilities of Coker & former Strikeforce matchmaker Rich Chou. - USA Today




http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/7246/usatodayexposesufcsf.jpg

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/mma/post/2012-01-01/wins-in-ufc-vindicate-strikeforce-brand/594812/1

G A M E
01-02-2012, 07:59 AM
why the **** is this **** in highlight yellow, you barely read that ****

Gojira
01-02-2012, 08:09 AM
Exposed? It's just Dana White talking ****. Obviously Strikforce consisted of more than just overrated, overpriced and over the hill fighters seeing as dana brought them. TS needs to get a grip.

.Mik.
01-02-2012, 08:59 AM
Its true of the other Heavyweights as well. Cormier, Big Foot Silva and Barnett could all end up top 5 in the HW rankings. Problem is, its only a matter of time before the UFC own them anyway.

monaroCountry
01-02-2012, 09:47 AM
The point is that those fighters were never recognized or recognized highly for their achievements and their skills prior to joining UFC.

While those already in the UFC were promoted up to the top ten even though they didnt deserve it i.e. Brock Lesnar, Carwin, and Cain.

Dana and the zombies slammed those strikeforce guys as not being able to cut it against someone like Brock, how wrong they were. Who is to say that fighters in Bellator, M-1, Golden Glory, Dream cant also compete and beat UFC's best. The only thing keeping the UFC from being exposed more is because they refuse to CO PROMOTE or WORK WITH OTHER PROMOTIONS for a non restrictive one off deal.

Boxingtech718v2
01-02-2012, 12:09 PM
People need to stop hating on DW he has done a ton for mma while you keyboard champs have done nothing to elevate the sport. He has created an environment where most of the great fighters have to fight each other. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization because it promotes and signs the fights the public wants to see the most. If it wasn't for DW we would have a crap load of ducking and multiple belts like Boxing. The best thing that can happen for mma IMO is for the UFC to swallow all the small outfits and become a national sporting body similar to the NFL, NBA, and MLB. With the Fox mainstream deal the UFC has a chance to make mma into a household sport. The Ultimate fighter is a great way to find talent, promote the sport, and introduce mma to the masses. So stop crying of course DW is going to talk up his organization it's a business and he's the owner, he has a vested interest in promoting his brand.

-2 Scrappy-
01-02-2012, 12:19 PM
The point is that those fighters were never recognized or recognized highly for their achievements and their skills prior to joining UFC.

While those already in the UFC were promoted up to the top ten even though they didnt deserve it i.e. Brock Lesnar, Carwin, and Cain.

Dana and the zombies slammed those strikeforce guys as not being able to cut it against someone like Brock, how wrong they were. Who is to say that fighters in Bellator, M-1, Golden Glory, Dream cant also compete and beat UFC's best. The only thing keeping the UFC from being exposed more is because they refuse to CO PROMOTE or WORK WITH OTHER PROMOTIONS for a non restrictive one off deal.

What? This whole article is dumb especially since diaz and hendo both went to strikeforce from the UFC. It's not like strikeforce found them and please hendo is the 2nd best middleweight ever so how was he not recognized for his prior achievements? Its one fight yet people don't wanna mention Jake shields is 0-3 in the UFC if you don't count that robbery vs kampman.

Brock Carwin and cain aren't top 5? WTF are you smoking? Tell me whos better and make sure you give me resume details. Brock Lesnar gets no respect its disgusting how dumb people can be. Dude came in with one fight and destroyed randy, herring and mir who were all highly ranked at that time. He still has more quality wins then overeem since the only 2 noteworthy heavyweights Overeem has ever beat is brock and werdum. So how you going to trash brock but use him in your arguement to build Overeem?

MARKBNLV
01-02-2012, 12:48 PM
People need to stop hating on DW he has done a ton for mma while you keyboard champs have done nothing to elevate the sport. He has created an environment where most of the great fighters have to fight each other. The UFC is the biggest MMA organization because it promotes and signs the fights the public wants to see the most. If it wasn't for DW we would have a crap load of ducking and multiple belts like Boxing. The best thing that can happen for mma IMO is for the UFC to swallow all the small outfits and become a national sporting body similar to the NFL, NBA, and MLB. With the Fox mainstream deal the UFC has a chance to make mma into a household sport. The Ultimate fighter is a great way to find talent, promote the sport, and introduce mma to the masses. So stop crying of course DW is going to talk up his organization it's a business and he's the owner, he has a vested interest in promoting his brand.

An environment of under paid fighters while him and his bosses get paid,and to tell the truth year by year this best fighting the best is going out the window,look at Silva Sonnen 2 thats the fight the fans want at mw instead we get Munoz Sonnen and probably Silva Bisbing,or how about the protection of George St Pierre,you will see it more and more down the line deserving fighters getting the shaft for ticket sellers.

Boxingtech718v2
01-02-2012, 12:54 PM
An environment of under paid fighters while him and his bosses get paid,and to tell the truth year by year this best fighting the best is going out the window,look at Silva Sonnen 2 thats the fight the fans want at mw instead we get Munoz Sonnen and probably Silva Bisbing,or how about the protection of George St Pierre,you will see it more and more down the line deserving fighters getting the shaft for ticket sellers.

The fighters don't seem to be complaining and obviously where are they going to get bigger checks? Most of the other large MMA orgs folded and failed to maintain financial stability. Probably because they were paying the fighters too much, greatly increasing their overhead. Sonnen vs Silva 2 will happen AS is injured now right? Can the guy get healthy before going up against a scrappy challenger? GSP is hurt right now too, but he will be facing Nick Diaz if he beats Condit. JJ is running through everyone at LHW, they will have to bring in King Mo and Feijo to challenge him soon. Stop trying to grasp at straws.

-Huey-
01-02-2012, 12:58 PM
I've always thought the UFC is a joke. Dana White is a tool...

dj Calleti
01-02-2012, 01:24 PM
why the **** is this **** in highlight yellow, you barely read that ****

^^^^^........

kaps
01-02-2012, 04:03 PM
Everyone knows Dana is a joke. Except Boxingtech apparently.....

monaroCountry
01-02-2012, 07:40 PM
I've always thought the UFC is a joke. Dana White is a tool...

I agree with you on both counts.

G A M E
01-03-2012, 04:43 AM
The fighters don't seem to be complaining and obviously where are they going to get bigger checks? Most of the other large MMA orgs folded and failed to maintain financial stability. Probably because they were paying the fighters too much, greatly increasing their overhead. Sonnen vs Silva 2 will happen AS is injured now right? Can the guy get healthy before going up against a scrappy challenger? GSP is hurt right now too, but he will be facing Nick Diaz if he beats Condit. JJ is running through everyone at LHW, they will have to bring in King Mo and Feijo to challenge him soon. Stop trying to grasp at straws.

nick diaz disagrees with you..

http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/diaz-nick.jpg

monaroCountry
01-03-2012, 06:50 AM
nick diaz disagrees with you..

http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/diaz-nick.jpgAnd Rampage

Boxingtech718v2
01-03-2012, 12:41 PM
nick diaz disagrees with you..

http://www.cagetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/diaz-nick.jpg

So tell me where is Diaz going to get paid more? Where can he get more mainstream exposure to earn marketing dollars? The best place for him to be financially and career wise is in the UFC.

Virgil Caine
01-03-2012, 03:59 PM
So tell me where is Diaz going to get paid more? Where can he get more mainstream exposure to earn marketing dollars? The best place for him to be financially and career wise is in the UFC.
Well, he was about to go take a big payday boxing Jeff Lacey before Zuffa baited him with GSP before pulling an old fashion switheroo on him once the contracts were signed. He can't box now because he's on a Zuffa contract, btw.

Boxingtech718v2
01-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Well, he was about to go take a big payday boxing Jeff Lacey before Zuffa baited him with GSP before pulling an old fashion switheroo on him once the contracts were signed. He can't box now because he's on a Zuffa contract, btw.

LOL Jeff Lacey he ain't going to make no bread fighting him. Diaz don't got good enough boxing anyway to make money at it he's better off doing what he's doing now chasing the WW belt. Also GSP is injured and is out for a long time. He can secure his number 1 contender spot by beating Condit or turn the fight down.

dough401
01-03-2012, 04:57 PM
LOL Jeff Lacey he ain't going to make no bread fighting him. Diaz don't got good enough boxing anyway to make money at it he's better off doing what he's doing now chasing the WW belt. Also GSP is injured and is out for a long time. He can secure his number 1 contender spot by beating Condit or turn the fight down.

Normally I would tend to disagree with Tech but he is right Nick isnt gonna make any more anywhere else then the UFC at this point but as for Lacey as soon as I heard that 2 things came to mind 1.He cant be getting that much to money to fight him dude is washed up 2. I called my boy and placed a bet that Nick would beat his even in a boxing match. If im not mistake when the #s came out Nick made 150k after the bonus whats wrong with that, and with a win over Condit he will not be complaing about money thats for sure.

Virgil Caine
01-03-2012, 05:04 PM
That doesn't make his comment any less misinformed.

I see the guy got banned.

dough401
01-03-2012, 05:08 PM
That doesn't make his comment any less misinformed.

I see the guy got banned.

I didnt even notice till you it huh? Wonder why we usally go back and forth on Celtics Knicks stuff ah well he will be back soon im sure. But as for this you dont think Nick and these other guys are getting paid now a days I know the lower guys get ****ed imo but headliners do pretty good no?

Virgil Caine
01-03-2012, 05:23 PM
I didnt even notice till you it huh? Wonder why we usally go back and forth on Celtics Knicks stuff ah well he will be back soon im sure. But as for this you dont think Nick and these other guys are getting paid now a days I know the lower guys get ****ed imo but headliners do pretty good no?
We don't know what anyone gets paid really.

Sure I hope Diaz has a chance to earn some okay money, although the UFC pay is pretty weak compared to what the guys are really worth, in terms of the revenue they bring in.

He probably would have made some money from the Lacey fight, although my point was really more that the guy just changes his story to fit whatever situation. He's just here to defend the UFC, which is pretty pathetic really being that I can't stand shills. Glad he's banned.

Virgil Caine
01-03-2012, 05:25 PM
I do think Diaz has a chance to earn some money though. Not great money, but good relative to what most other fighters earn in the UFC.

dough401
01-03-2012, 05:39 PM
We don't know what anyone gets paid really.

Sure I hope Diaz has a chance to earn some okay money, although the UFC pay is pretty weak compared to what the guys are really worth, in terms of the revenue they bring in.

He probably would have made some money from the Lacey fight, although my point was really more that the guy just changes his story to fit whatever situation. He's just here to defend the UFC, which is pretty pathetic really being that I can't stand shills. Glad he's banned.

You have a point and I know I'm one of a few people who think these guys get paid just about right to keep them hungry I really enjoy all MMA,Boxing K-1 doesnt matter to me what I watch I just dont want these guys to turn into the "insert name here" Boxers who choose there fights dont need to fight after a couple fights cause there already loaded. As for your boy I see Gloden Glory is really trying to stick with a 240k lawsuit always something.

Virgil Caine
01-03-2012, 05:48 PM
You have a point and I know I'm one of a few people who think these guys get paid just about right to keep them hungry I really enjoy all MMA,Boxing K-1 doesnt matter to me what I watch I just dont want these guys to turn into the "insert name here" Boxers who choose there fights dont need to fight after a couple fights cause there already loaded. As for your boy I see Gloden Glory is really trying to stick with a 240k lawsuit always something.
I'm not even a huge Overeem fan, but I do think he's the current #1 heavyweight in the sport. Golden Glory should get their money. They basically made his career. It isn't like they were there to dump him after he lost 4 straight. He double crossed them, they even negotiated his Zuffa contract. The mafia boy Lorenzo Fertitta apparently got in Reem's ear and told him he was getting ripped off. Golden Glory was always there for Overeem, and then as soon as he gets a break he turns his back on them. They still apparently have a valid contract and deserve to get paid. Hopefully it doesn't stop him from fighting, as lawsuits have a tendency to sometimes do.

monaroCountry
01-03-2012, 06:00 PM
Fertitta that shady ****er. Which is funny considering its these clowns that point to M-1 as being shady but apparently they dont get any shadier than the promotion with a historical mafia ties.

I like Overeem as a fighter but not as a person. GG made him and were his family, Overeem comes back and tries to rip them off, compares his trainers to his maid, he still hasnt paid them for his Werdum fight, and basically talks badly of them now that hes buddy buddies with the Fertitta's.

G A M E
01-03-2012, 07:15 PM
Fertitta that shady ****er. Which is funny considering its these clowns that point to M-1 as being shady but apparently they dont get any shadier than the promotion with a historical mafia ties.

I like Overeem as a fighter but not as a person. GG made him and were his family, Overeem comes back and tries to rip them off, compares his trainers to his maid, he still hasnt paid them for his Werdum fight, and basically talks badly of them now that hes buddy buddies with the Fertitta's.

he prolly knows he doesnt need GG since hes a big fish in a small pond.

but you'd think he'd be a little more grateful to his former team.