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JMCbulls
11-15-2005, 09:12 PM
i no many people say joe louis never had good opposition


so who were the 3 best?

Skydog
11-15-2005, 11:01 PM
Any one who steps in the ring with Marciano is taking a dare and showing some courage, but for Louis to do it at his age and physical health is showing courage like never before.

Max Scmeling is one of the most underrated champions ever. Bert Sugar, ESPN Boxing historian, says that he is the most underrated champion ever. He owned one of the best right hands in history, and sure did give Louis a hell of a time with it. But what did Louis do in their second fight? DESTROYED HIM.

Jersey Joe Walcott was one of the greatest heavyweight champions of all-time. There's no doubt about that. He gave Louis problems, but Louis won the first fight, and gave one of his best performances en route to decisioning him. He also caught Walcott with one of his best combos and KO'ed him in their second fight.

Since Marciano doesn't really count for he beat Louis, we'll give that spot to Billy Conn. Conn is known as one of the greatest light-heavyweights of all-time, and for a heavyweight to try and catch a light-heavyweight is a hard thing. Louis KO'ed Conn twice.

Dempsey 1919
11-16-2005, 10:47 AM
Any one who steps in the ring with Marciano is taking a dare and showing some courage, but for Louis to do it at his age and physical health is showing courage like never before.

Max Scmeling is one of the most underrated champions ever. Bert Sugar, ESPN Boxing historian, says that he is the most underrated champion ever. He owned one of the best right hands in history, and sure did give Louis a hell of a time with it. But what did Louis do in their second fight? DESTROYED HIM.

Jersey Joe Walcott was one of the greatest heavyweight champions of all-time. There's no doubt about that. He gave Louis problems, but Louis won the first fight, and gave one of his best performances en route to decisioning him. He also caught Walcott with one of his best combos and KO'ed him in their second fight.

Since Marciano doesn't really count for he beat Louis, we'll give that spot to Billy Conn. Conn is known as one of the greatest light-heavyweights of all-time, and for a heavyweight to try and catch a light-heavyweight is a hard thing. Louis KO'ed Conn twice.

i would say that list you gave is probably right.

Kid Achilles
11-16-2005, 11:08 AM
Max Baer, Jimmy Braddock, and Jack Sharky were all ex-heavyweight champions who are impressive feathers in his cap.

Everyone rags on Carnera but really his only faults were a lack of power and a relatively soft chin. He had a decent jab and some good skills for his size. Max Schmeling even praises his technical ability in his autobiography. Think of Carnera as a McCline, a huge guy who didn't have one punch KO power, though with much better heart and fighting spirit. He was a weak champion, and he did win many of his fights on fixes, but he was a very strong man with a solid grasp of the fundementals of the sport.

Hell even guys like Buddy Baer and Tony Galento were tough, hard punching (in Galento's case, steel chinned) contenders who were the Samuel Peters of their day.

Joe Louis fought from the mid 30's to the late 40's, and unlike Tyson he fought the very best contenders throughout his professional career. Louis even fought a future top ten heavyweight champion in his very last fight.

Not what I would call an unimpressive resume.

leff
11-16-2005, 12:58 PM
the best fighters louis fought are marciano, walcot and schmeling

Da Iceman
11-16-2005, 07:26 PM
walcott schmeling and baer are about it. (im counting the ones he beat)

Skydog
11-16-2005, 09:16 PM
Max Baer, Jimmy Braddock, and Jack Sharky were all ex-heavyweight champions who are impressive feathers in his cap.

Everyone rags on Carnera but really his only faults were a lack of power and a relatively soft chin. He had a decent jab and some good skills for his size. Max Schmeling even praises his technical ability in his autobiography. Think of Carnera as a McCline, a huge guy who didn't have one punch KO power, though with much better heart and fighting spirit. He was a weak champion, and he did win many of his fights on fixes, but he was a very strong man with a solid grasp of the fundementals of the sport.

Hell even guys like Buddy Baer and Tony Galento were tough, hard punching (in Galento's case, steel chinned) contenders who were the Samuel Peters of their day.

Joe Louis fought from the mid 30's to the late 40's, and unlike Tyson he fought the very best contenders throughout his professional career. Louis even fought a future top ten heavyweight champion in his very last fight.

Not what I would call an unimpressive resume.

Don't leave out Walcott and Schmeling.

Easy-E
11-17-2005, 12:43 AM
Any one who steps in the ring with Marciano is taking a dare and showing some courage, but for Louis to do it at his age and physical health is showing courage like never before.

Max Scmeling is one of the most underrated champions ever. Bert Sugar, ESPN Boxing historian, says that he is the most underrated champion ever. He owned one of the best right hands in history, and sure did give Louis a hell of a time with it. But what did Louis do in their second fight? DESTROYED HIM.

Jersey Joe Walcott was one of the greatest heavyweight champions of all-time. There's no doubt about that. He gave Louis problems, but Louis won the first fight, and gave one of his best performances en route to decisioning him. He also caught Walcott with one of his best combos and KO'ed him in their second fight.

Since Marciano doesn't really count for he beat Louis, we'll give that spot to Billy Conn. Conn is known as one of the greatest light-heavyweights of all-time, and for a heavyweight to try and catch a light-heavyweight is a hard thing. Louis KO'ed Conn twice.

you did not see the first jersy joe-lewis fight
jersey joe dropped louis in the first and fourth, and was in control of the fight. louis came on strong at the end, but did NOT deserve the decision.
interesting note, louis was about to LEAVE the ring in disgust of his preformance, but his trainer made him stay to hear the decision.
the look on louis's face said it all in that one, a huge bull**** decision

KidBlackie
11-17-2005, 06:25 AM
i no many people say joe louis never had good opposition


so who were the 3 best?
Most people ain't too bright. By the time Louis was 22 he had faced and beat 3 former champs, Baer, Carnera, and Sharkey, and was only upset by another former champ, Schmeling. No fighter in history until Tyson came along ever fought harder comp at such a young age.

As far as his title reign goes, Louis' best opponents that he beat were Walcott, Conn, and Buddy Baer, all of whom he beat 2x. Louis only had a few controversial fights, the first Baer and Walcott fights. He gave them immediate rematches and utterly destroyed them leaving any controversy shattered by the force of their concussions.

Da Iceman
11-17-2005, 05:31 PM
louis was the greatest

Imira
11-17-2005, 09:56 PM
Kid hit it right on the head.

I'll throw in my two cents. The best 3 opponents Louis ever fought were Marciano, Walcott and Charles, in my opinion.

Buddy Baer, Abe Simon, Tony Galento, Billy Conn and Max Schmelling were something special as well.

Having Sharkey and Carnera on his resume isn't bad either, but since I can't give Marciano full credit for his victory over Louis, I can't give Louis full credit for his victory over Sharkey.

Former, current or future champions Louis has fought: Sharkey, Carnera, Max Baer, Schmelling, Braddock, Conn, Walcott, Charles and Marciano.