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Welsh Jon
12-15-2011, 08:54 AM
Who was the best boxer from:

Argentina
Cuba
England
France
Italy
Mexico
Philippines
Puerto Rico
Scotland
Wales?

Discuss.

▀ringer
12-15-2011, 09:22 AM
For me?

Argentina - Carlos Monzon.
Cuba - Kid Gavilan.
England - Bob Fitzsimmons.
France - Marcel Cerdan.
Italy - Nino Benvenuti.
Mexico - Ricardo Lopez.
Philippines - Manny Pacquiao.
Puerto Rico - Wilfred Benitez.
Scotland - Ken Buchanan.
Wales - Joe Calzaghe.

BattlingNelson
12-15-2011, 09:57 AM
Argentina: Monzon
Cuba: Gavilan
England: Lewis (if you can count him as english)
France: Carpentier
Italy: Loi
Mexico: JC Chavez
Philippines: It'll be Pacquiao already.
Puerto Rico: Ortiz
Scotland: Buchanan
Wales: Wilde

Welsh Jon
12-15-2011, 10:42 AM
For me?

Argentina - Carlos Monzon.
Cuba - Kid Gavilan.
England - Bob Fitzsimmons.
France - Marcel Cerdan.
Italy - Nino Benvenuti.
Mexico - Ricardo Lopez.
Philippines - Manny Pacquiao.
Puerto Rico - Wilfred Benitez.
Scotland - Ken Buchanan.
Wales - Joe Calzaghe.


Joe better than Jimmy Wilde or Freddie Welsh? Not in my book.

▀ringer
12-15-2011, 11:07 AM
I can't really comment on Wilde's career, as I've not seen a ton of it, and I limit myself to talking about topics which I have an understanding of.

I have no problem with people picking Wilde over Calzaghe, though. I just can't, because I've not seen enough of it to do any sort of accurate comparison.

SBleeder
12-15-2011, 12:13 PM
Argentina Carlos Monzon

Cuba Jose Napoles

England Bob Fitzsimmons

France Marcel Cerdan

Italy Young Corbett III

Mexico Ricardo Lopez

Philippines Manny Pacquiao

Puerto Rico Wilfredo Gomez

Scotland Ken Buchanan

Wales Jimmy Wilde

NChristo
12-15-2011, 01:13 PM
Argentina - Carlos Monzon
Cuba - Jose Napoles
England - Bob Fitzsimmons
France - Marcel Cerdan
Italy- Duilio Loi
Mexico - JC Chavez
Philippines - Manny Pacquaio
Puerto Rico - Carlos Ortiz
Scotland - Benny Lynch
Wales - Freddie Welsh

IronDanHamza
12-15-2011, 01:24 PM
Argentina - Carlos Monzon
Cuba - Kid Gavilan
England - Bob Fitzsimmons
France - Marcel Cerdan
Italy- Young Corbett 3
Mexico - Ruben Olivares
Philippines - Manny Pacquaio
Puerto Rico - Carlos Ortiz
Scotland - Benny Lynch
Wales - Freddie Welsh

BattlingNelson
12-15-2011, 02:47 PM
I see a lot of you are picking Fitzsimmons as Englands representative. He's obviously worthy, but I always thought of him as a New Zealander. I'm by no means an expert on his life so can somebody educate me?

IronDanHamza
12-15-2011, 02:52 PM
I see a lot of you are picking Fitzsimmons as Englands representative. He's obviously worthy, but I always thought of him as a New Zealander. I'm by no means an expert on his life so can somebody educate me?

He was born in the UK.

Welsh Jon
12-15-2011, 03:24 PM
I see a lot of you are picking Fitzsimmons as Englands representative. He's obviously worthy, but I always thought of him as a New Zealander. I'm by no means an expert on his life so can somebody educate me?

He was born in Cornwall, England. His father was Irish, his mother Cornish. He was brought up in New Zealand. His family emigrated to New Zealand when he was about 8 or 9 years old.

Welsh Jon
12-16-2011, 12:11 PM
I see Monzon and Pac have been backed by everyone so far as best boxers from Argentina and the Philippines.

No love for Pascual Perez or Nico Locche?

No love for Flash Elorde?

Scott9945
12-16-2011, 12:31 PM
I see Monzon and Pac have been backed by everyone so far as best boxers from Argentina and the Philippines.

No love for Pascual Perez or Nico Locche?

No love for Flash Elorde?

My strong second choice from the Philippines would be Pancho Villa rather than Elorde.

NChristo
12-16-2011, 01:25 PM
I see Monzon and Pac have been backed by everyone so far as best boxers from Argentina and the Philippines.

No love for Pascual Perez or Nico Locche?

No love for Flash Elorde?

Well you're asking for the best boxer from each of their countries and that's quite clearly Monzon and Pacquaio, despite how great Locche / Perez, Elorde / Villa are Monzon and Pacquaio are still greater.

BattlingNelson
12-16-2011, 02:14 PM
My strong second choice from the Philippines would be Pancho Villa rather than Elorde.
That's what I was thinking. Villa > elorde, but Pac already > villa.

SBleeder
12-16-2011, 03:35 PM
I see Monzon and Pac have been backed by everyone so far as best boxers from Argentina and the Philippines.

No love for Pascual Perez or Nico Locche?

No love for Flash Elorde?

Locche is my favorite fighter of all time, period.

Monzon was greater, however.