View Full Version : France....Where Art Thou ?


jabsRstiff
12-29-2004, 01:54 PM
In wake of the incredible devastation to many nations, many people, by this weekend's Indian Ocean tsunami....many countries have pledged $$$$ in relief efforts....of course the USA will be the biggest contributor.


Just how much, if any, will the nation of France be handing out ?

The country that does nothing but ***** & moan when they think the U.S. is either too involved, or not involved enough....will probably trot out a MEAGER sum of dough, IF ANY.


No offense, TINO......but your nation should be annihilated.

Anyone agree ?

LuKahnLi
12-29-2004, 02:37 PM
As long as
Monica Belucci (http://images.google.com/images?q=Monica+Bellucci&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search)

And Audrey Tautou
(http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Audrey+Tautou&spell=1)

are moved out of the country first......I don't have a problem with it.

I think my Hot tub is the safest place for them until the whole thing blows over.

bigdlb12
12-29-2004, 02:38 PM
thats fcuked up,true but still fcuked up by France

julDilla
12-29-2004, 02:41 PM
As long as
Monica Belucci (http://images.google.com/images?q=Monica+Bellucci&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search)

And Audrey Tautou
(http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Audrey+Tautou&spell=1)

are moved out of the country first......I don't have a problem with it.

I think my Hot tub is the safest place for them until the whole thing blows over.
agrre monica can come to Mexico :D second one can stay

LuKahnLi
12-29-2004, 02:46 PM
Top

Dude, you obviously haven't seen Amelie. When Audrey Tautou's face is on the screen.....you feel like you are melting.

The guy who directed Amelie should probably get Amnesty too. Cuz he also did the City of Lost Children.

Also, Quebec should be considered part of France in this annhilation process.

LuKahnLi
12-29-2004, 02:47 PM
If it means the difference between Audrey staying and not having Monica. Top Rank, you take Monica, I will take Audrey.

PBDS
12-29-2004, 04:12 PM
In wake of the incredible devastation to many nations, many people, by this weekend's Indian Ocean tsunami....many countries have pledged $$$$ in relief efforts....of course the USA will be the biggest contributor.


Just how much, if any, will the nation of France be handing out ?

The country that does nothing but ***** & moan when they think the U.S. is either too involved, or not involved enough....will probably trot out a MEAGER sum of dough, IF ANY.


No offense, TINO......but your nation should be annihilated.

Anyone agree ?



....Your dead on!!! I feel bad taking shots at France though when Tino is such a nice guy and he is the only French guy on the boards that I know of.

PacKillsMorales
12-29-2004, 04:30 PM
the french are too busy making ass treaties with
tyrants like president mugabi.

ass clowns

annihilation is iminent

and i once saw a french guy in Liverpool
sorry scousers :D

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-29-2004, 05:41 PM
freedom fries anyone? :p


hahaha how lame was that

PacKillsMorales
12-29-2004, 06:18 PM
freedom fries anyone? :p


hahaha how lame was that
groan...
wasnt worth the minimum 10characters :rolleyes:

so how much your karma worth ulti..mines 3mil+

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-29-2004, 06:21 PM
groan...
wasnt worth the minimum 10characters :rolleyes:

so how much your karma worth ulti..mines 3mil+

mine is worth like half that. :mad: :D ;)

PacKillsMorales
12-29-2004, 06:36 PM
hey it was worth well over 2mil..
i got close on 30 mil so illboost again asap hehe

tino
12-29-2004, 08:00 PM
the french are too busy making ass treaties with
tyrants like president mugabi.

ass clowns

annihilation is iminent

and i once saw a french guy in Liverpool
sorry scousers :D

yeah , when USA is so busy making treaties with:

-noriega
-pinochet
-islamist in algeria and afghanistan(yes , watch rambo III)

tino
12-29-2004, 08:02 PM
In wake of the incredible devastation to many nations, many people, by this weekend's Indian Ocean tsunami....many countries have pledged $$$$ in relief efforts....of course the USA will be the biggest contributor.


Just how much, if any, will the nation of France be handing out ?

The country that does nothing but ***** & moan when they think the U.S. is either too involved, or not involved enough....will probably trot out a MEAGER sum of dough, IF ANY.


No offense, TINO......but your nation should be annihilated.

Anyone agree ?

we cant give any money because we have to pay audrey tautou and monica belluci ' s salaries.

tino
12-29-2004, 08:02 PM
Top

Dude, you obviously haven't seen Amelie. When Audrey Tautou's face is on the screen.....you feel like you are melting.

The guy who directed Amelie should probably get Amnesty too. Cuz he also did the City of Lost Children.

Also, Quebec should be considered part of France in this annhilation process.

the annhilation of quebec is OK , go on

neils7147933
01-03-2005, 07:15 AM
In wake of the incredible devastation to many nations, many people, by this weekend's Indian Ocean tsunami....many countries have pledged $$$$ in relief efforts....of course the USA will be the biggest contributor.


Just how much, if any, will the nation of France be handing out ?

The country that does nothing but ***** & moan when they think the U.S. is either too involved, or not involved enough....will probably trot out a MEAGER sum of dough, IF ANY.


No offense, TINO......but your nation should be annihilated.

Anyone agree ?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=655&e=1&u=/oneworld/20041231/wl_oneworld/45361007181104520369

World - OneWorld.net


Private, Foreign Donations for Tsunami Relief Far Eclipse Bush Pledge

Fri Dec 31, 2:12 PM ET World - OneWorld.net


Jim Lobe, OneWorld US

WASHINGTON, Dec 31 (OneWorld) - While U.S. President George W. Bush (news - web sites) boasted Wednesday that Washington provided 40 percent of all international emergency aid last year, his US$35 million pledge for relief efforts in South Asia has been overwhelmed by contributions from foreign governments, and an outpouring of individual contributions from citizens in the U.S. and around the world.

With the combined death toll in 12 countries hit by Sunday's catastrophic tsunamis climbing past 125,000 by late Thursday, the World Bank (news - web sites) announced it was making $250 million available to the relief effort. Great Britain, goaded by unprecedented private donations to British charities that eclipsed Blair's commitment, raised its contribution to $96 million Thursday--surpassing Spain's record $68 million pledge of the day before.

Sweden, hundreds of whose tourists are reportedly still missing, has pledged $75 million, while France added $37 million to its initial $20 million contribution, bringing its total to $57 million by Thursday.

Altogether, according to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan (news - web sites), more than $500 million have been pledged by about 30 governments and international agencies. Hundreds of millions of dollars more are apparently on their way from citizens, businesses, and other groups in dozens of countries, including the United States, via private relief groups active in the region.

The American Red Cross (news - web sites) announced Thursday that it had received $18 million in private giving by mid-day Wednesday, while Oxfam International said it had raised a record $16 million by noon Thursday, including more than $3 million in the U.S. from unsolicited online donations and nearly $6 million from its British contributors.

Britain's Disasters Emergency Committee (DEC), representing that country's 12 top charities--including Oxfam-UK, Action Aid, Christian Aid, and Save the Children--said it collected some $39 million within one day of launching a public appeal. CARE USA said it had received more than $3.5 million by Thursday.

"We think that because this happened on Sunday, and a lot of people were very involved in their holiday celebrations," said Francine Cheeks, "on Monday, when it became the biggest story in the news, people began to reflect on how very lucky they are, what they have, and it was easier for them to give money." Ms Cheeks is communications director for another U.S. relief group, the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC), that also reported receiving record contributions.

"Our member NGOs (non-governmental organizations) are reporting a tremendous outpouring of concern from Americans for those affected by this crisis," said Mary McClymont, president of the Washington-based InterAction, a coalition of 160 U.S. development and humanitarian groups late Thursday. "The volume of donations in just the first few days appear to be the most generous we've seen in recent memory."

Nor has the private giving been strictly an Anglo-American affair. In Italy, some $17 million was raised in just two days through a media campaign, while in the Netherlands--a country of less than 15 million people--a similar effort netted $13 million.

The latest figures came as Bush announced that he was sending his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, and outgoing Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites), on a tour of the region Sunday.

Powell is scheduled to meet Annan at UN headquarters in New York City Friday, apparently to help align UN operations with those of the U.S., Australia, Japan, and India. All four countries are members of the core group to coordinate aid delivery in the devastated region, as President Bush (news - web sites) announced Wednesday.

Bush and his top aides have been on the defensive over their reaction to the disaster since the head of UN humanitarian operations, Jan Egeland, told reporters Monday that the foreign aid commitments of the world's wealthy nations was "stingy."

Powell, who had earlier warned that billions of dollars will be required in relief operations, complained lately as news coverage of ever larger sums being donated to the relief and recovery effort unfolded.

"What we have to do is make a needs assessment and not just grasp at numbers or think we're in some kind of auction house where every day somebody has to top someone else," he said.

Bush himself denounced Egeland's remarks at a press conference Wednesday as "very misguided and ill-informed." He insisted that the $2.4 billion dollars spent by the U.S. in emergency aid last year constituted 40 percent of all such aid contributed by donor governments globally. Historically, Washington has borne between 25 and 33 percent of the costs of international humanitarian aid, roughly equivalent to its share of the global economy.

Bush stressed that the $35 million was "'only a beginning." It did not include the costs of deploying half a dozen warships, including the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, and Marines from Hong Kong to Indonesia. Washington earlier this week also set up a hub at Thailand's Udorn air base to ferry relief supplies into the affected areas.

Nonetheless, the speed and degree to which Bush's commitment was eclipsed by the contributions of other nations and donations by common citizens appeared to underline critics'charges that he was transforming the United States into a modern day Scrooge.

Pointing out that $35 million is roughly what the Republican Party plans to spend on the president's inaugural festivities next month, the New York Times described the contribution as a "miserly drop in the bucket" and declared itself in full agreement with Egeland's earlier critique.

"We spend $35 million before breakfast every day in Iraq (news - web sites)," noted Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy in what is actually only a very small exaggeration. U.S. operations in Iraq and Afghanistan (news - web sites) are currently running at about six billion dollars a month, or about $35 million every six hours.

Leahy urged Bush to draw more fund from the $18 billion Congress approved last year for Iraqi reconstruction--so he would not have to "raid other already under-funded foreign aid accounts"--for emergency aid and development assistance. Only a fraction of that fund has been spent so far.

Several analysts also noted that the paltriness of Washington's official contribution compared to those of other countries threatened Bush's other geo-strategic priorities, including his efforts to subdue al Qaeda and other Islamist extremist movements and gain support for his Iraq policy.

"The slowness and stinginess of the Bush administration's response does not play well in Asia, a region where it has demanded active support for its self-declared global war on terrorism," said John Glassman, an Asia specialist who directs Foreign Policy in Focus (FPIF). "Humanitarian imperatives aside, the administration's stance displays an amazing absence of enlightened self-interest."

In recognition of those imperatives and their self-interest, meanwhile, Washington's foreign allies--all with populations and economies significantly smaller than the U.S.'--continued to outdo Bush in pledging their aid solidarity with the victims.

Tiny Holland, which earmarks nearly one percent of its gross domestic product (GDP (news - web sites)) for foreign aid--compared to about .012 percent of GDP given by the U.S.--committed $36 million to relief operations. Japan pledged $40 million, in addition to its military deployments to the region.

Northern neighbor Canada initially pledged $33 million, but that was boosted to $43 million after two provincial governments voted contributions of their own. Ottawa also announced a moratorium on debt repayments from affected countries. Australia, with a population and economy roughly one-fifteenth the size of the U.S., pledged $27 million in relief, not including its own military deployments to help Indonesia.

Saudi Arabia and Qatar pledged $10 million each, while the European Union (news - web sites) (EU) committed $44 million of its own money apart from the bilateral contributions of its member states which ranged from $11 million from Portugal to Britain's $98 million commitment.

Egeland praised the donations Thursday, noting that countries in Latin America, Eastern Europe, and the Muslim world were also making unprecedented contributions.

At the State Department meanwhile, spokesman Richard Boucher rejected criticism that Washington's performance to date had been disappointing. "Any implication that the United States is not being generous; is not forthcoming; is not active; is not, in fact, leading the way; is just plain wrong and doesn't reflect what's going on in this crisis ," he declared.

tino
01-03-2005, 07:19 AM
thanks neils.


look jabsrstiff , it s called FACTS

TheFairPole
01-03-2005, 08:06 AM
I'm so sick of these countries who just talk all this **** about what pieces of **** we are and won't support us but they always got there ****ing hands out for OUR aid and always have! They have gotten so fat and greedy that they are *****ing that our wellfare checks to the world aren't enough! Why don't they take those under the table payoffs from Saddam and all the other dirty money from terrorist groups they are recieving and donate some of that for aid! These ****s just keep biteing the hand that feeds! They need to start counting the food we give as aid too, not just the $$$!

tino
01-03-2005, 08:10 AM
I'm so sick of these countries who just talk all this **** about what pieces of **** we are and won't support us but they always got there ****ing hands out for OUR aid and always have! They have gotten so fat and greedy that they are *****ing that our wellfare checks to the world aren't enough! Why don't they take those under the table payoffs from Saddam and all the other dirty money from terrorist groups they are recieving and donate some of that for aid! These ****s just keep biteing the hand that feeds! They need to start counting the food we give as aid too, not just the $$$!

your post is just unreadable.
put yourself togeteher and post something somebody can understand.

TheFairPole
01-03-2005, 08:22 AM
your post is just unreadable.
put yourself togeteher and post something somebody can understand.

This wasn't a shot at you Tino! I was responding to the negatives in the article! I basically feel the same way as you do about our home countries. Saying France should be annihlated would get any French person pissed and most other people too! All these media shots are just propaganda and always have been! Not all american CITIZENS are bad people like foreign media says we are just as not all French are bad either! The media in every country only tells you what they want you to believe! I'm sure if we all actually knew the truth about each others Citizens we would get along fine!

Bombardier
01-03-2005, 08:25 AM
A survey was done recently that found that, of the 30 top industrialized nations, the U.S. was LAST per capita in terms of aid dollars. So everyone from the States shouldn't be bragging about their generosity. Norway donates 0.89 of its GPA PER YEAR in aid. The U.S. is like point one-twelve.

tino
01-03-2005, 08:31 AM
This wasn't a shot at you Tino! I was responding to the negatives in the article! I basically feel the same way as you do about our home countries. Saying France should be annihlated would get any French person pissed and most other people too! All these media shots are just propaganda and always have been! Not all american CITIZENS are bad people like foreign media says we are just as not all French are bad either! The media in every country only tells you what they want you to believe! I'm sure if we all actually knew the truth about each others Citizens we would get along fine!

ok my bad , we agree on all points.

in fact , knowing both countries i can say that americans tend to be more friendly than french.

but you guys dress soooooooo bad ;)

TheFairPole
01-03-2005, 08:34 AM
ok my bad , we agree on all points.

in fact , knowing both countries i can say that americans tend to be more friendly than french.

but you guys dress soooooooo bad ;)

Yeah I can't stand the way most people dress today! I'm a little more midwestern but even in the midwest it is rare to dress conservative nowadays! :D

tino
01-03-2005, 08:40 AM
Yeah I can't stand the way most people dress today! I'm a little more midwestern but even in the midwest it is rare to dress conservative nowadays! :D

i assume you love "queer eyes for the straight guy" as much as i do ?

what a great show ! BTW , do you think pink and yellow will be the colors of 2005 ? jean paul gaultier's new collection is HOT my dear !

and BTW i just sent you the boy george MP3 you asked me , so send the freddy mercury pictures you promised , ok ?

TheFairPole
01-03-2005, 08:56 AM
i assume you love "queer eyes for the straight guy" as much as i do ?

what a great show ! BTW , do you think pink and yellow will be the colors of 2005 ? jean paul gaultier's new collection is HOT my dear !

and BTW i just sent you the boy george MP3 you asked me , so send the freddy mercury pictures you promised , ok ?

OK, I take back what I said about France being annihlated! Just Kidding! ;)

SonnyG8R
01-03-2005, 10:57 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/01/03/powell/index.html

The death toll from the December 26 tsunamis stood at more than 156,000 on Monday.

The United States has committed $350 million in relief funds, the largest contribution behind Japan's $500 million.

U.N. emergency relief coordinator Jan Egeland, who sparked international debate last week when he called wealthy nations "stingy" with foreign aid in general, told "Late Edition" the United States has been "ideal" in the way it has responded to the disaster.

"They have also provided military assets that we are reliant upon now, as we try to reach out to the most remote places in Sumatra and Aceh, which are the worst-hit of the areas," he said.

JOM'S
01-03-2005, 11:26 AM
don't NUKE france, where we will get all our french fries and french kisses???

PacKillsMorales
01-03-2005, 12:05 PM
eh....we know the recipe for french fries and
if ya dont french kiss your a ***** :D

so we dont need these frenchies anymore :rolleyes:

Drop bombs like Hiroshima

its all just a laugh man...
all our countries leaders make stupid decisions that dont
fairly represent the majority of us.

im not bothered when i hear tony blair being bashed cause
hes a useless twat..and if he isnt he does a good job of
looking like it..same for dubya :cool:
also the english tea drinking jokes never seem to die out.

jedihillis
02-01-2005, 03:08 AM
Yeah, the French government are A-holes. They ***** and moan about every little thing, and lend support to no one.

Oh well. Going to war with the french is like going hunting without and acordion.

LuKahnLi
02-01-2005, 08:04 AM
A survey was done recently that found that, of the 30 top industrialized nations, the U.S. was LAST per capita in terms of aid dollars. So everyone from the States shouldn't be bragging about their generosity. Norway donates 0.89 of its GPA PER YEAR in aid. The U.S. is like point one-twelve.

We need to make the world safe from Terrists GODAMNIT!!!! What's your problem?

Even LESS than .12 goes to help the poor people of THIS country.

SonnyG8R
02-01-2005, 08:45 AM
France is like that little yippping mut that bares it's teeth and barks at your ankles. You give it a little kick and goes yelping away with it's tail between it's legs. They haven't been a significant world power in over a century and yet they like to pump out thier chest and act tough.

J !
02-01-2005, 08:47 AM
In wake of the incredible devastation to many nations, many people, by this weekend's Indian Ocean tsunami....many countries have pledged $$$$ in relief efforts....of course the USA will be the biggest contributor.


Just how much, if any, will the nation of France be handing out ?

The country that does nothing but ***** & moan when they think the U.S. is either too involved, or not involved enough....will probably trot out a MEAGER sum of dough, IF ANY.


No offense, TINO......but your nation should be annihilated.

Anyone agree ?

mate us brits have been tryting for thousands of years :D

just joking i quite like the french in some ways, their lifestyle and the few french people I do know are very nice, but as a political nation they suck immeasurably.

p.s. Ive got tickets for the big rugby game week after next we will take it out on them then ;)

PacKillsMorales
02-01-2005, 08:58 AM
do ya think england will beat francein the rugby..

does form not point towards a french victory.. :confused: