View Full Version : Pacquiao vs. Marquez


tyte3
12-29-2004, 02:42 AM
who do you think will win this time?

i think it might be a close one...because of JMM training at 15,000 ft altitude and pacquiao about to start training next week. Pacquiao has power and speed but JMM might have the bettere condidtioning

Chups
12-29-2004, 02:44 AM
Pacquiao KO's JMM in 10


10 minutes!!:)

Marjoh
12-29-2004, 03:16 AM
If Pacquiao don't get his ass off the couch and keep training his roosters more than him, then I'm giving this to JMM.

abdiel2k3
12-29-2004, 03:24 AM
this ones easily goin to marquez
i say by late KO
for two reasons
1 becuz i dont think mannys goin to be in the same or better condition as he was for the first fight
and
2 becuz jmm isnt gonna make the mistake he made in the 1st round
hes not goin to try to be a pure agreesor and give manny the only chance he has
instead hes gonna box his ass up
and mix in smart aggression

julDilla
12-29-2004, 03:40 AM
Pacquiao KO's JMM in 10


10 minutes!!:)
i highly doubt it

Mech.
12-29-2004, 03:43 AM
As long Paquiao dosent fight as one dimensional as he fought in the first fight, i think he can win it, but hes not even in training so i dont know, i think hes gonna go for that one punch knockout again.if he does hes just half assing it and i hope he loses.

E.T.
12-29-2004, 04:04 AM
JMM will come better prepared for Pac, this will
make it a more difficult bout for Manny. But my heart
and money of course still goes with Pac.
Anyone want to bet on Feb just let me know :D

czars_salad
12-29-2004, 04:16 AM
The truth is that I fear for Manny's conditioning. Marquez has been fit ever since and will be stronger come Feb 26. I know Manny can do it but he has alot of preparations to do.

Good luck Pacman

E.T.
12-29-2004, 04:18 AM
**** Top Rank your karma is worth that much ????

KillerBlow
12-29-2004, 04:21 AM
i highly doubt it

Pac will win Top Rank ;)
MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS !! :D

LuKahnLi
12-29-2004, 09:34 AM
Pacquaio TKO11. Pac puts a more steady beating on Marquez rather than shooting his load in the first round. Marquez gives as good as he gets in stretches but ultimately cannot keep up with Pac Man.

baya
12-29-2004, 09:43 AM
this fight is DEF JMM's for the taking. his only mistake was that first round in the fight, and he is not a stupid person. i say JMM boxes circles around pacman and does the right thing and lays him down late in the fight after 10 brutal rounds of punishment.

JOM'S
12-29-2004, 10:59 AM
only way for jmm to win this fight is on points, thats if he can survive a two fisted PAC for 12 rounds, even with jmm's high altitude training, i earnestly doubt he can...

and i am willing to put my foot where my mouth is and bet all my points (now at 28M) on it....PAC by KO

MlLkMan
12-29-2004, 12:34 PM
PAC will win by KO in the middle rounds. Ill bet, pm me.

Chups
12-29-2004, 12:40 PM
PAC will win by KO in the middle rounds. Ill bet, pm me.

Putting all my money on Pac too.

Soundtraveler
12-29-2004, 01:19 PM
As much as I like the pac man, I wonder if he will win this one, actually I have my doubts. I am going to say he won't win it.

I am going with Marquez in a brawl to the finish, with a Majority Decision win....

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-29-2004, 01:23 PM
Jmm Tko 7th.

Keleneki
12-29-2004, 01:32 PM
I think JMM wins this rematch easy, either my UD or late round stoppage. I believe that he is really going to box Pacman's ears off this time.

Xecutioner
12-29-2004, 02:00 PM
i thought this fight was already signed? why is marquez pricing himself out now

Sir_Jose
12-29-2004, 06:11 PM
i thought this fight was already signed? why is marquez pricing himself out now


The fight is signed

borikua
12-29-2004, 06:16 PM
Pacman by brutal KO.

Xecutioner
12-29-2004, 07:39 PM
imma favor marquez, first time i think mannys speed and power definately caught him off guard. he was lucky to survive, but after he did he put on a great performance. i just gotta believe hes going to be even more prepared and knows exactly what he wants to do against manny. however, i would love to see manny win only because i wanna see manny vs morales. :D

Hurlex
12-29-2004, 07:52 PM
if fight goes into late rounds of course JMM will win...i dont think anyone realy expect pac ti win bu a SD/UD..if pac is gonna win its gonna be before the 6rd and by ko..

i think JMM will win by late ko or UD..he's counterpunching will be better then ever..and if pac tries those left uppercuts like he did against his last fighter, JMM will win by ko becuase he will have no problem counterpunching that all night

its gonna be a great fight either way..and pac win or lose will fight morales anyway..so goodtimes

JMM 10ko/or UD

ispayder
12-29-2004, 08:10 PM
Remember guys, JMM will be facing a two fisted, faster, stronger Pacman minus the 99 cents socks and a completely healed left fist. If JMM will not bring anything new in their second fight he will be in for a terrible beating. Pacman have added some new and deadly weapons in his arsenal. Pacman by TKO in middle rounds.

m00ks
12-29-2004, 09:52 PM
Jmm Tko 7th.

okay no... :confused:

m00ks
12-29-2004, 09:54 PM
if fight goes into late rounds of course JMM will win...i dont think anyone realy expect pac ti win bu a SD/UD..if pac is gonna win its gonna be before the 6rd and by ko..

i think JMM will win by late ko or UD..he's counterpunching will be better then ever..and if pac tries those left uppercuts like he did against his last fighter, JMM will win by ko becuase he will have no problem counterpunching that all night

its gonna be a great fight either way..and pac win or lose will fight morales anyway..so goodtimes

JMM 10ko/or UD

Do you know that THE REASON THOSE UPPERCUTS CONNECTED WAS BECAUSE FASHAN TRIED COUNTER PACS RIGHT AND OPENED HIMSELF UP? :cool:

trinidadpr87
12-29-2004, 09:54 PM
jmm ud12.guarantee it or do i.

m00ks
12-29-2004, 09:56 PM
Remember guys, JMM will be facing a two fisted, faster, stronger Pacman minus the 99 cents socks and a completely healed left fist. If JMM will not bring anything new in their second fight he will be in for a terrible beating. Pacman have added some new and deadly weapons in his arsenal. Pacman by TKO in middle rounds.

I'd say the same thing except for Pac's ****ty conditioning. If he doesn't get in shape or crams, I'm betting on JMM UD.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 10:39 PM
who do you think will win this time?

i think it might be a close one...because of JMM training at 15,000 ft altitude and pacquiao about to start training next week. Pacquiao has power and speed but JMM might have the bettere condidtioning

high-altitude training doesn't necessarily give a fighter an edge. pacman is physically gifted, so the only way jmm can even equal or surpass that is to train on top of the the mountain.

during the first fight, jmm had train in the mountain, pacquiao in the hills of la, but both showed excellent stamina. pacquiao is a natural 15-rounder, even though most of his fights never lasted more than 5 rounds.

Hurlex
12-29-2004, 10:51 PM
yo mooks true..ur boy better get in shape and train...cuz he's not training and he's taking this JMM fight as if it is just another thai bum boxer..he better worry about this..because it dont look like it..but JMM could ko pac...so pac better get in shape..he's taking it to easy

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 10:55 PM
this ones easily goin to marquez
i say by late KO
for two reasons
1 becuz i dont think mannys goin to be in the same or better condition as he was for the first fight
and
2 becuz jmm isnt gonna make the mistake he made in the 1st round
hes not goin to try to be a pure agreesor and give manny the only chance he has
instead hes gonna box his ass up
and mix in smart aggression

i highly doubt this happening for three reasons:
1. manny will be ready in this fight. when manny starts training, he gives twice the effort he can give. jmm is 5 years older than pac and he needs the early preparation he can get. a two-month rigid training for pac should be enough. don't forget that pac also trained for the fahsan fight, so he is not necessarily way behind jmm. he did his training in a mountaineous part of davao city too, where in-jin chi is currently training.

2. jmm wouldn't change that much from what he showed in the first fight. he would do what he does best and that's counter-punching. he is a passive fighter, so the element of surprise is always on the pacman's side. pacman contrary to most people believe has more weapons in his arsenal and is still growing, thanks to freddie roach. pacman will be a much better fighter in the rematch.

3. underestimating pacman's intelligence, is underestimating what he can do in the ring, more so if you have only seen a fraction of what he can do. jmm is not gonna make the same mistake, so is pac. this time, roach will bring a more varied plan. the only reason that team pac looked at finishing the fight early was due to manny's lessened mobility and balance. a 100% pacman is a totally different fighter that jmm will face in the rematch.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 10:57 PM
As long Paquiao dosent fight as one dimensional as he fought in the first fight, i think he can win it, but hes not even in training so i dont know, i think hes gonna go for that one punch knockout again.if he does hes just half assing it and i hope he loses.

this i highly doubt... any logical human being just won't do the same mistake the second time around, much more when the stake is high.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 10:59 PM
The truth is that I fear for Manny's conditioning. Marquez has been fit ever since and will be stronger come Feb 26. I know Manny can do it but he has alot of preparations to do.

Good luck Pacman

Just think about this...did he let everybody down in his previous fights? believe, that's the best you can do for now.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 11:02 PM
this fight is DEF JMM's for the taking. his only mistake was that first round in the fight, and he is not a stupid person. i say JMM boxes circles around pacman and does the right thing and lays him down late in the fight after 10 brutal rounds of punishment.

and you think pacman will not cut the ring for him...not a chance. those brutal left straight left punches and uppercuts will surely find their marks.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 11:04 PM
As much as I like the pac man, I wonder if he will win this one, actually I have my doubts. I am going to say he won't win it.

I am going with Marquez in a brawl to the finish, with a Majority Decision win....

i highly doubt that it will go to the distance...pacman will keep the pressure on and jmm find himself backing most of the time...until pacman finds the spot to finish him off. it's really that simple.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 11:05 PM
Jmm Tko 7th.

Pac TKO 6th.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 11:08 PM
if fight goes into late rounds of course JMM will win...i dont think anyone realy expect pac ti win bu a SD/UD..if pac is gonna win its gonna be before the 6rd and by ko..

i think JMM will win by late ko or UD..he's counterpunching will be better then ever..and if pac tries those left uppercuts like he did against his last fighter, JMM will win by ko becuase he will have no problem counterpunching that all night

its gonna be a great fight either way..and pac win or lose will fight morales anyway..so goodtimes

JMM 10ko/or UD

in that case...pacman doesn't need to throw the first punches at all and let the counter-puncher becomes an attacker. what an awkward position that is gonna be for jmm...too boring! :D

m00ks
12-29-2004, 11:09 PM
yo mooks true..ur boy better get in shape and train...cuz he's not training and he's taking this JMM fight as if it is just another thai bum boxer..he better worry about this..because it dont look like it..but JMM could ko pac...so pac better get in shape..he's taking it to easy

only possible way that JMM can KO Pac is if the latter don't train enough. JMM can't KO a Pacquiao with steam. If Manny gets out of breath midway, JMM will put him on his ass. But if he's conditioned for 12, JMM ain't knocking **** out.

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 11:18 PM
I'd say the same thing except for Pac's ****ty conditioning. If he doesn't get in shape or crams, I'm betting on JMM UD.

team pac just wanna make you believe that way...people think manny is gonna be the underdog, then comes fight night, pacman is gonna surprise them ... and i guarantee you pac's gonna win...more moolah for your bet!

Chups
12-29-2004, 11:21 PM
team pac just wanna make you believe that way...people think manny is gonna be the underdog, then comes fight night, pacman is gonna surprise them ... and i guarantee you pac's gonna win...more moolah for your bet!


Sssssssshhhhhh!! not too loud...we want Pacman to be underdog so odds are against him = more points...LOL :D

JaNnO
12-29-2004, 11:25 PM
Sssssssshhhhhh!! not too loud...we want Pacman to be underdog so odds are against him = more points...LOL :D

i hope it's gonna be mab-pac 1 again, 1:5...so my $100 wins $500.

kadyo
12-29-2004, 11:45 PM
Pacman by round 0 because Team Marquez is backing out.

grayfist
12-29-2004, 11:58 PM
The last meeting showed everyone who cares to look that Marquez does not have the power to put a moderately conditioned Pac down. His best shot at a W is through points.

Pac has showed he can put Marquez down; 3 times in one round, just in case anybody has doubts.

So, reason dictates that if there is any KO that can be expected, the one who should do any KOing is Pac.

But then, part of the beauty of boxing is it has an abundant supply of the unexpected. ;)

JaNnO
12-30-2004, 12:00 AM
The last meeting showed everyone who cares to look that Marquez does not have the power to put a moderately conditioned Pac down. His best shot at a W is through points.

Pac has showed he can put Marquez down; 3 times in one round, just in case anybody has doubts.

So, reason dictates that if there is any KO that can be expected, the one who should do any KOing is Pac.

But then, part of the beauty of boxing is it has an abundant supply of the unexpected. ;)

couln't be any closer than that! how's my friend? hope you had a jolly christmas! :)

grayfist
12-30-2004, 12:08 AM
couln't be any closer than that! how's my friend? hope you had a jolly christmas! :)Hi, pal! How am I! Empty pockets, that's what I have! :D Anyway, as good as can be, pal! Thanks for asking! Hope you had a great X'mas! And here's wishing that you and Pac will have a great year ahead! ;) :D

JaNnO
12-30-2004, 12:12 AM
Hi, pal! How am I! Empty pockets, that's what I have! :D Anyway, as good as can be, pal! Thanks for asking! Hope you had a great X'mas! And here's wishing that you and Pac will have a great year ahead! ;) :D

thanks, gray! don't you worry, all those money will comeback to you a hundred folds! i had a grat Christmas, but nothing compared to being home at Christmas time! I hope 2005 is gonna be a good year for all of us, including the exciting Pacman!

grayfist
12-30-2004, 12:19 AM
thanks, gray! don't you worry, all those money will comeback to you a hundred folds! i had a grat Christmas, but nothing compared to being home at Christmas time! I hope 2005 is gonna be a good year for all of us, including the exciting Pacman!Yea, going back to the salt mines after the holidays, buddy. Earn a tad... Good to see you again! My best to all! HAPPY NEW YEAR BUDDIES!!! :D

Sir_Jose
12-30-2004, 12:35 AM
I hear Pac is faster than a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings in a single bound, is this true?

itsbusdriver
12-30-2004, 12:38 AM
LOL JOSE! that was pretty good!

kadyo
12-30-2004, 12:39 AM
I hear Pac is faster than a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings in a single bound, is this true?

hahaha!!!Pac is no superman bro.

oldgringo
12-30-2004, 12:44 AM
I hear Pac is faster than a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings in a single bound, is this true?


I actually heard it a bit differently Jose. I heard that speeding bullets won't even dent his chin and his straight left can actually GO THROUGH TALL BUILDINGS!

itsbusdriver
12-30-2004, 12:48 AM
i swear.. all you die hard Pac fans make it hard to like Pac.. he is a good fighter, no doubt.. but please keep the nut hugging to a minimum.. its nice to know who your favorite boxer is but dont make it seem that he can walk all over his oponents.. Marquez is probably the most technical sound fighter there is in boxing today(Cotto would also rank up there).. So as far as Pac beating down on JMM is unlikely at this point.... listen, im a Pac fan also and proud to be FIL-AM but i also know a few things about the sport.. JMM has the advantage right now.. he is prepared.. he has been training for a few months now while Pac is having his fun playing Basketball back in the PI... as of right now i have the fight 60-40 going for JMM.. but i hope Pac proves me wrong this coming February... go PAC!

JaNnO
12-30-2004, 12:59 AM
I hear Pac is faster than a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings in a single bound, is this true?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

mr. bojangles
12-30-2004, 12:59 AM
i swear.. all you die hard Pac fans make it hard to like Pac.. he is a good fighter, no doubt.. but please keep the nut hugging to a minimum.. its nice to know who your favorite boxer is but dont make it seem that he can walk all over his oponents.. Marquez is probably the most technical sound fighter there is in boxing today(Cotto would also rank up there).. So as far as Pac beating down on JMM is unlikely at this point.... listen, im a Pac fan also and proud to be FIL-AM but i also know a few things about the sport.. JMM has the advantage right now.. he is prepared.. he has been training for a few months now while Pac is having his fun playing Basketball back in the PI... as of right now i have the fight 60-40 going for JMM.. but i hope Pac proves me wrong this coming February... go PAC!


-ditto- Good post brother.

JMMarquez has been training in a high-altitude gym since November, reportedly training even on Christmas Day! You gotta give this man his due respect for that. I'm a Pac fan and I don't wanna see him fall by the wayside just like Mayorga. :o

JaNnO
12-30-2004, 12:59 AM
I actually heard it a bit differently Jose. I heard that speeding bullets won't even dent his chin and his straight left can actually GO THROUGH TALL BUILDINGS!

ahi-hi-hi...wtf...

JaNnO
12-30-2004, 01:04 AM
i swear.. all you die hard Pac fans make it hard to like Pac.. he is a good fighter, no doubt.. but please keep the nut hugging to a minimum.. its nice to know who your favorite boxer is but dont make it seem that he can walk all over his oponents.. Marquez is probably the most technical sound fighter there is in boxing today(Cotto would also rank up there).. So as far as Pac beating down on JMM is unlikely at this point.... listen, im a Pac fan also and proud to be FIL-AM but i also know a few things about the sport.. JMM has the advantage right now.. he is prepared.. he has been training for a few months now while Pac is having his fun playing Basketball back in the PI... as of right now i have the fight 60-40 going for JMM.. but i hope Pac proves me wrong this coming February... go PAC!

who u talkin about...if you're a fan...you're a fan period...i don't think you have to make a big deal of what other pacfans are sayin' here. fans are naturally hardcore...you just learn to accept it that way...i'm a pacfan myself, but i don't say comical things about pacman and hateful things about his opponents...some people just need to widen their minds and horizon! :cool:

JOM'S
12-30-2004, 04:53 AM
I'd say the same thing except for Pac's ****ty conditioning. If he doesn't get in shape or crams, I'm betting on JMM UD.

i get your point buddy and i don't want to bet against a fellow Pinoy, but if you have to bet against the PAC i will have to take that bet, at least one of us will have points left....

All the points i worked from the time i joined here to february i will bet on the PAC...

bytee
12-30-2004, 04:53 AM
I hear Pac is faster than a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings in a single bound, is this true?



Dont believe on everything you heard . . but from what Ive known . . . He's the ONE!

JOM'S
12-30-2004, 05:02 AM
I hear Pac is faster than a speeding bullet and can leap tall buildings in a single bound, is this true?

you got it all wrong buddy, thats superman, you just mentioned, PAC is the one that gobbles all his opponents by making his opponents kiss the canvas at least twice...WUKKA WUKKA WUKKA

JOM'S
12-30-2004, 05:05 AM
I actually heard it a bit differently Jose. I heard that speeding bullets won't even dent his chin and his straight left can actually GO THROUGH TALL BUILDINGS!

YOU ALSO GOT IT WRONG BUDDY THAT SUPERMAN....WUKKA WUKKA WUKKA

JOM'S
12-30-2004, 05:10 AM
who u talkin about...if you're a fan...you're a fan period...i don't think you have to make a big deal of what other pacfans are sayin' here. fans are naturally hardcore...you just learn to accept it that way...i'm a pacfan myself, but i don't say comical things about pacman and hateful things about his opponents...some people just need to widen their minds and horizon! :cool:

YOU HIT ON THE RIGHT ON THE BUTTON BUDDY...

any fan of boxing don't need to like the fans of the boxer, ANYWAY ITS THE BOXER WHO WE ARE ALL GOING TO WATCH NOT THE F_CK_NG FANS...

so its either you like him or you don't, plain and simple...