Do people think Vitali was scared of Rahman or not? [Archive]

RAESAAD

11-10-2005, 11:33 AM

I doubt he was afraid but something is/was obviously bothering him to just retire.....he could have just given up the belt recovered and fought when he is fit which I think he may still do someday....he will easily be right back in the mix should he unretire.

restless_438

11-10-2005, 11:34 AM

i honestly believe it was more the issue of injuries and being able to fight at his best than anything to do with an opponent.

!! Anorak

11-10-2005, 11:34 AM

There's a million of these on page 2 or 3.
:banghead:

- Evil -

11-10-2005, 11:35 AM

Let's see some opinions on this, please. I came on here looking for threads about it but no one's posting.

Oh course he wasnt, Vitali would have butchered Rahman with ease.

NoMas

11-10-2005, 11:36 AM

I don't know...he wasn't at his best because of his brace, but even with it he coulda beat Rahman. I guess the final straw was him POSSIBLY being knocked down by inferior sparring partners. Combining the both wouldn't give me much confidence going into a big fight either. I bet this is what he's doing...waitiing for his injury to heal, and he's going to train extremely hard asap then fight Rahman and totally blow him out or knock him out, like what Roy Jones Jr coulda done, but he was already done.

DiegoFuego

11-10-2005, 11:47 AM

NoMas

11-10-2005, 11:48 AM

I definitely think he was scared, but I don't know why that was the case. You're the heavyweight champion of the world, people are supposed to be afraid of YOU, not the other way around. I'll never understand why such a dominating figure as Vitali was such a wuss inside. Quitting against Byrd? What the ****?
If he fought on against Byrd he would of totally ruined his career. I agree he is mentally weak but with Byrd he had to quit if he wanted to fight again.

DiegoFuego

11-10-2005, 11:49 AM

Bull****. He didn't have to throw another right hand the entire fight and he would have won on the cards. He's a ****ing *****.

NoMas

11-10-2005, 11:51 AM

^^ how can you expect to throw one hand and still win a fight? Especially with Vitali's style.

DiegoFuego

11-10-2005, 12:01 PM

Against Byrd? Even if Byrd won all three of the last rounds, he loses on the cards! You think Byrd could have knocked Vitali out?! LOL

Apparently Vitali thought so, which is even sadder

Derranged

11-10-2005, 12:02 PM

I dont think he was scared, and even if he was, we'll never know anyway. I believe he was injured, some athletes are more prone to injury than others. Just look at Chad Pennington for the Jets. I dont think he would give up $8,000,000 and damage his reputation like this because of fear. Besides, his injuries were all legitamized. I think he would've fought if it was merely a sprain but torn ligaments and a ruptured ACL? Aint no way you can fight. I think its possible because hes been fighting for over 20 years, hes real big awkward and clumsy. Rahman and King are saying he's scared because they have no class much like the haters on this site.

loangunZ

11-10-2005, 12:42 PM

actually I torn my acl but I could still walk on it. The sport braces are designed to not let your knee hyper extent or overrotate I know this would have worked for VK but he said he had tried allof them but they didn't work. I guss he is right though because even though it prevents the knee still feels weak and you tend to favor the other leg. It really doesn't matter how much muscle mass you have it will still feel weak. Rotating for side to side would have had a huge impact on him.

SacTown1

11-10-2005, 01:18 PM

QUITALI WAS SCARED

period

he's seen Rock's highlight-reel KO of Lennox thousands of times, and it musta ruined his confidence, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten "injured" on 4 OCCASIONS this year....

the real question is: who's a more disgraceful former champ: Quitali or Bruce Seldon? Both are phonies, both are quitters, but who was worse?

hollister

11-10-2005, 01:24 PM

And yet more unbiased wisdom lol

What the **** ever lol

SacTown1

11-10-2005, 01:56 PM

And yet more unbiased wisdom lol

What the **** ever lol
a biased question receives biased responses....

"do you think" = "give us your biased opinion"

how can we objectively analyze a man's heart? It can't be done, so questions like this will ALWAYS receive biased opinions

and in my own biased opinion :) QUITALI WAS SCARED, quitting 4 times has some objectivity to back my point though

Ukr_Alex

11-10-2005, 02:02 PM

Bull****. He didn't have to throw another right hand the entire fight and he would have won on the cards. He's a ****ing *****.

You dumb cunt, its not just about punching with that hand, its about getting hit on that sholder too.

If he continued and got hit on that sholder more or threw more right hands there would be permanent damage to his sholder.

Its about knowing the limits of your body, he knows that better then any other boxer in history because that was what he studied.

The man got a surgery on his sholder for Christ sake...right after that fight and you stil want to argue?

now STFU and dissapear

Shaolin Bushido

11-10-2005, 02:03 PM

No. Most people who say that are just pushin buttons.

Moon

11-10-2005, 02:03 PM

Do people think Vitali was scared of Rahman or not?
YES and NO. He was definitely "afraid" to step into the ring, because his physical limitations might lead to a serious injury.

Rahman might not have been able to beat a 100% ready Vitali. But, Vitali must have been aware of the potential for real harm if he faced Rahman, or any other live opponent, especially with an injury that's serious enough to cause him to retire!

hollister

11-10-2005, 03:25 PM

a biased question receives biased responses....

"do you think" = "give us your biased opinion"

how can we objectively analyze a man's heart? It can't be done, so questions like this will ALWAYS receive biased opinions

and in my own biased opinion :) QUITALI WAS SCARED, quitting 4 times has some objectivity to back my point though

Do you think means just that, it means do you think. It in no way shape or form implies a request for a hateful and biased opinion, just an opinion. The question was "Do people think VK was scared of Rahman or not?", I personally can't see anything biased about that. VK postponed the fight four times, but you're intentionally omitting the reasons why in order to make your opinion seem more valid, instead saying that the injuries are fake any times you're confronted with them, when you have no proof that they are, just as no one else has proof that they aren't. There are plenty of fighters I hate, but I won't stoop to the level of making unfounded accusations to discredit them for that reason alone. Saying VK was scared of Rahman when he has never exhibited any type of fear of any fighter just seems silly to me.

Hitman932

11-10-2005, 03:29 PM

i refuse to believe vitali was afriad of rahman, there is no reason i can tell for him to be.

i wouldnt be scared to fight hasim rahman, yeah hed knock me out, but i wouldnt be afraid of him.

!! Anorak

11-10-2005, 03:30 PM

hollister

11-10-2005, 03:34 PM

Guys, guys, guys... when I created this thread I was being

SARCASTIC

This subject has had about 20,000 threads in the last ten minutes, okay? And if anyone thinks that Vitali was scared of a total mediocrity like Rahman (a man who would have been forgotten by now if he was from Europe) then think again.

I know, and I agree that he'd have been forgotten by now if not for being American, and I know that you of all people would know if there were already multiple threads concerning this, I just hate to see stupid people post stupid **** lol

DiegoFuego

11-10-2005, 03:35 PM

Guys, guys, guys... when I created this thread I was being

SARCASTIC

This subject has had about 20,000 threads in the last ten minutes, okay? And if anyone thinks that Vitali was scared of a total mediocrity like Rahman (a man who would have been forgotten by now if he was from Europe) then think again.

Keep crying, *****. Your ***** ass champion is no more. ALL HAIL HASIM RAHMAN

!! Anorak

11-10-2005, 03:36 PM

Keep crying, *****. Your ***** ass champion is no more. ALL HAIL HASIM RAHMAN

Any ***** out there will ***** slap your *****, *****.

DiegoFuego

11-10-2005, 03:37 PM

Any ***** out there will ***** slap your *****, *****.

:bottle: :bottle: :bottle:

!! Anorak

11-10-2005, 03:38 PM

:bottle: :bottle:
Nah, that's a cheap comeback. And totally unfounded. You have to do more than that to make me cry. :D

:bottle: <--- have one back on me.

DiegoFuego

11-10-2005, 03:39 PM

Keep the tears coming. :bottle:

!! Anorak

11-10-2005, 03:46 PM

Keep the tears coming. :bottle:
Where are these tears of which you speak?

My only tears will be tears of laughter when "The Coc... er, Rock" fails in his first defence of a title he didn't even win the ring.

Derranged

11-10-2005, 03:48 PM

Where are these tears of which you speak?

My only tears will be tears of laughter when "The Coc... er, Rock" fails in his first defence of a title he didn't even win the ring.

Dont bother arguing with him he's a moron looking to get a rise out of everyone.

!! Anorak

11-10-2005, 04:07 PM

Dont bother arguing with him he's a moron looking to get a rise out of everyone.

I just don't get how

"you're crying, :bottle: "

is a witty put-down in anyone's eyes. Noel Coward he ain't.

Soundtraveler

11-10-2005, 04:45 PM

Bull****. He didn't have to throw another right hand the entire fight and he would have won on the cards. He's a ****ing *****.

I gotta agree with that one....

hollister

11-11-2005, 12:37 AM

I gotta agree with that one....

I know you're an anouncer, but have you ever boxed?

When you're fighting, it isn't always easy to tell if you're winning or not. I'm not making excuses for anyone quitting, but it isn't always as simple and clearcut as that guy was making it out to be.

11-11-2005, 01:39 AM

damn, what a bunch of babies. vitali retired, get over it. maybe get a job so you guys don't have so much free time to recreate pointless threads.

soundtraveler is an announcer? never heard of announcers being former boxers. i know former fighters that went on to train, referee, and judge, but never heard of a professional announcer as having anything close to an impressive boxing career - amateur or pro. i maybe wrong on this, but it would be news to me.

hollister

11-11-2005, 01:43 AM

!! Anorak

11-11-2005, 07:42 AM

damn, what a bunch of babies. vitali retired, get over it. maybe get a job so you guys don't have so much free time to recreate pointless threads.

Chill out, J, you know I was only taking the piss with this thread, right? Chill man.

Derranged

11-11-2005, 08:11 AM

Chill out, J, you know I was only taking the piss with this thread, right? Chill man.

THANK YOU!!! Though Anorak is not one of the bad ones.

blockhead

11-11-2005, 08:13 AM

Let's see some opinions on this, please. I came on here looking for threads about it but no one's posting.
i dont think he was afraid of rahman, but he seems to be too afraid of losing his title in the ring to defend it.