View Full Version : Undefeated Heavyweight Prospects: Any Good?
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 04:31 PM The heavyweight division is considered the glamour division of boxing. But the division has been in turmoil due to the departure of Lewis and people who hate Vitali and think Chris Byrd is champ. So which undefeated prospect has the best shot at ding something big in the future?
Calvin Brock 23-0 (19 KO)
Samuel Peter 21-0 (18 KO)
Leo Nolan 22-0 (8 KO)
Gerald Nobles 24-1 (19 KO)
Nicolay Valuev 39-0 (29 KO)
I say Samuel Peter, solely because the other fighters mentioned above are really garbage. I think they will be great tests for the amateurs who came out of the 2004 Olympics and trials, but will never win a title.
neils7147933 12-28-2004, 05:03 PM Sam Peter's garbage too. You can actually see him loading up on punches. Someone will KO him with a single straight jab he fights a Top 10 fighter.
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:06 PM Sam Peter's garbage too. You can actually see him loading up on punches. Someone will KO him with a single straight jab he fights a Top 10 fighter.
I dunno, I think he might have a good chin.
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:07 PM Sam Peter's garbage too. You can actually see him loading up on punches. Someone will KO him with a single straight jab he fights a Top 10 fighter.
They said the same of David Tua. He got pretty far.
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:08 PM Would Valuev last 12 against Ruiz, Byrd, or Brewster?
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:08 PM They said the same of David Tua. He got pretty far.
has he won a title though?
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:10 PM has he won a title though?
But he amounted to something in his career with regards to memorable fights and ko's.
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:12 PM But he amounted to something in his career with regards to memorable fights and ko's.
that KO of Ruiz made him a champion
neils7147933 12-28-2004, 05:15 PM Haven't seen Brock or Nolan.
"No" to the others. That doesn't mean they can't hold a belt. In an era where Lamon Brewster wins a heavyweight title and tit-boy Nobles can KO former champ Bruce Seldon, anything's possible.
That doesn't mean they're any good.
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:23 PM What about these:
1. Ruslan Chagaev
2. Sultan Ibragimov
3. Taras Bidenko (has one early PTS loss from Valuev)?
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:24 PM What about these:
1. Ruslan Chagaev
2. Sultan Ibragimov
3. Taras Bidenko (has one early PTS loss from Valuev)?
European fighters? Let them come to America and KO Rahman and then we'll see.
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:29 PM European fighters? Let them come to America and KO Rahman and then we'll see.
I think S. Ibragimov moved to America a year ago.
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:33 PM I think S. Ibragimov moved to America a year ago.
I moved to Jersey City 15 years ago.
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:37 PM I moved to Jersey City 15 years ago.
S. Ibragimov is an Olympic medalist that has 14-0 (12KOs) record.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=113634
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:39 PM S. Ibragimov is an Olympic medalist that has 14-0 (12KOs) record.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=113634
How do I know you didn't make all these names up? Maybe these names translate to "Asian Sensation is a filthy punk" or something. Maybe you work for Boxrec and just put in your friends names. Long live Vernon Forrest!
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:42 PM How do I know you didn't make all these names up? Maybe these names translate to "Asian Sensation is a filthy punk" or something. Maybe you work for Boxrec and just put in your friends names. Long live Vernon Forrest!
Ibragim is a common arabic name, I thought.
I would also have to manipulate Olympic records all over the internet to pull that stunt off.
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:45 PM Ibragim is a common arabic name, I thought.
I would also have to manipulate Olympic records all over the internet to pull that stunt off.
Ibragim could also mean "Asian Sensation is a punk", only in arabic. I dunno. You could have connections and ****. Maybe you're also stealing my garbage. I'm onto you.
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:47 PM Ibragim could also mean "Asian Sensation is a punk", only in arabic. I dunno. You could have connections and ****. Maybe you're also stealing my garbage. I'm onto you.
huh? :confused:
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:49 PM huh? :confused:
Didn't think I'd find out? The jig is up, get in the flask Nautilus, or should I say: DR. CLAW!
Nautilus 12-28-2004, 05:51 PM Didn't think I'd find out? The jig is up, get in the flask Nautilus, or should I say: DR. CLAW!
DR. Wtfhat? :D
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never mind dude,
garbage men steal your garbage
Mr. Ryan 12-28-2004, 05:53 PM DR. Wtfhat? :D
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Don't play games with me. You can get in the jar the easy way, or the hard way. The choice is yours Dr. Claw.
How about alexander dimitrenko?
I heard his good and very young.
The heavyweight division is considered the glamour division of boxing. But the division has been in turmoil due to the departure of Lewis and people who hate Vitali and think Chris Byrd is champ. So which undefeated prospect has the best shot at ding something big in the future?
Calvin Brock 23-0 (19 KO)
Samuel Peter 21-0 (18 KO)
Leo Nolan 22-0 (8 KO)
Gerald Nobles 24-1 (19 KO)
Nicolay Valuev 39-0 (29 KO)
I say Samuel Peter, solely because the other fighters mentioned above are really garbage. I think they will be great tests for the amateurs who came out of the 2004 Olympics and trials, but will never win a title.
WOW this was a while ago
Brock now-29-0 22 ko's
Peter now-27-1 22 ko's
Valuev now-45-0
all three in top 10
eazy_mas 10-13-2006, 05:53 PM what about the native americain that Freddi Roach is coaching?
neils7147933 10-13-2006, 07:01 PM The heavyweight division is considered the glamour division of boxing. But the division has been in turmoil due to the departure of Lewis and people who hate Vitali and think Chris Byrd is champ. So which undefeated prospect has the best shot at ding something big in the future?
Calvin Brock 23-0 (19 KO)
Samuel Peter 21-0 (18 KO)
Leo Nolan 22-0 (8 KO)
Gerald Nobles 24-1 (19 KO)
Nicolay Valuev 39-0 (29 KO)
I say Samuel Peter, solely because the other fighters mentioned above are really garbage. I think they will be great tests for the amateurs who came out of the 2004 Olympics and trials, but will never win a title.
I still don't know who Nolan is two years later
The Fix 10-13-2006, 07:29 PM I still don't know who Nolan is two years later
lol neither do i....
Mr. Ryan 07-27-2009, 01:01 AM The heavyweight division is considered the glamour division of boxing. But the division has been in turmoil due to the departure of Lewis and people who hate Vitali and think Chris Byrd is champ. So which undefeated prospect has the best shot at ding something big in the future?
Calvin Brock 23-0 (19 KO)
Samuel Peter 21-0 (18 KO)
Leo Nolan 22-0 (8 KO)
Gerald Nobles 24-1 (19 KO)
Nicolay Valuev 39-0 (29 KO)
I say Samuel Peter, solely because the other fighters mentioned above are really garbage. I think they will be great tests for the amateurs who came out of the 2004 Olympics and trials, but will never win a title.
Five years later, heres the update:
Calvin Brock wound up winning a few semi-significant bouts in unimpressive fashion, earning a title shot at Wladimir Klitschko. Klitschko laid him out in 7, then after another loss to Eddie Chambers in 2007 faded into oblivion amidst an eye injury.
Sam Peter wound up winning a title by stopping Oleg Maskaev in Mexico. Peter has beaten just about everyone he fought not named Klitschko or Eddie Chambers. He's pretty much done now but Top Rank is trying to recycle him.
Leo Nolan is a curious case because he can actually fight a little. He lost to little known Hector Ferreyro in 2007 then faded off. Last I heard he got shot but survived in Detroit.
Gerald Nobles is another one who just faded off. He lost once to Valuev by DQ and has been inactive since 07.
Valuev as we know is still a titlist but stands very little chance of becoming the recognized champ. Good promoters in Germany get you far in this sport.
KINGPIN4LIFE 07-27-2009, 02:29 AM The heavyweight division is considered the glamour division of boxing. But the division has been in turmoil due to the departure of Lewis and people who hate Vitali and think Chris Byrd is champ. So which undefeated prospect has the best shot at ding something big in the future?
Calvin Brock 23-0 (19 KO)
Samuel Peter 21-0 (18 KO)
Leo Nolan 22-0 (8 KO)
Gerald Nobles 24-1 (19 KO)Nicolay Valuev 39-0 (29 KO)
I say Samuel Peter, solely because the other fighters mentioned above are really garbage. I think they will be great tests for the amateurs who came out of the 2004 Olympics and trials, but will never win a title.
Um yeah so how is a guy with a loss on his record undefeated? Just asking, no need to bash or criticize............Just a simple answer will do
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