View Full Version : Natural Weight!


Dempsey 1919
11-07-2005, 02:35 PM
How would you determine what a fighter's natural weight is? Would it be by a certain age, or the fact that a person has stayed at a certain weight for a long period of time or what?

Verstyle
11-07-2005, 02:37 PM
by what they do when they dont box as in training

snap the jab
11-07-2005, 09:37 PM
This is a very interesting question. Probably an important one, too, if you're a boxer - how do you determine the weight at which you will be the most effective and therefore have the greatest chance of success? I have no clue...

Dempsey 1919
11-09-2005, 12:49 PM
i want to hear more replies.

Da Iceman
11-10-2005, 07:44 PM
lose weight and stay at that weight

cple
11-11-2005, 12:44 PM
The lowest weight-class a fighter can make without struggling.

fistlegend
11-11-2005, 05:53 PM
The lowest weight-class a fighter can make without struggling.

yep true.

and the weight that they perform best with :D

Dempsey 1919
11-11-2005, 08:49 PM
yep true.

and the weight that they perform best with :D

so some people like james toney should go to another weight class huh?

blockhead
11-12-2005, 12:34 AM
so some people like james toney should go to another weight class huh?
natural weight changes as we age as well. our bodies change the way they utilize food and energy and it shows in our shapes and weights as we age. i know i am 26 now and i used to be lean and muscular and now i am bulky and as each year passes my neck seems to be engulfed by my shoulders. not fat but bulky muscle instead of lean.

habZ
11-12-2005, 07:54 AM
as long as your stomach is lean, then thats your perfect weight

snap the jab
11-12-2005, 02:19 PM
But it gets more complicated... I'm 6'2" but I've got a large frame (broad shoulders, big hands, feet, etc.) so that even when i'm perfectly lean i'm still about 210 lbs. But at 210 I'd get to be a small heavyweight and get the crap knocked out of me by a bunch of 6'4" 240 guys - so wouldn't it make more sense if I was a fighter for me to fight below my optimal weight, at say 200, so that even though I might not perform as well I'd still have a size advantage over alot the guys that I fight?

Dempsey 1919
11-12-2005, 04:38 PM
i believe than when a fighter reaches his "prime", that weight is his natural weight. so ali's weight would be something like 212, and louis 195, and tyson 223.

Da Iceman
11-14-2005, 09:40 PM
what about if your fat in your prime is that your fighting weight ?

whatdahieu
11-14-2005, 10:17 PM
you mean like toney? hes donig hella good now even though hes like 55 pounds of fat

Da Iceman
11-14-2005, 10:43 PM
i mean shouldnt you lose that fat and fight at that weight?

Dempsey 1919
11-15-2005, 06:11 PM
i mean shouldnt you lose that fat and fight at that weight?

well, i'm talking about if you're not fat (and that's most fighters). toney is probably at the most a natural lightheavyweight.

Da Iceman
11-16-2005, 07:30 PM
toney was better at middleweight than lightheavy

Dempsey 1919
11-17-2005, 05:49 PM
ok, whatever, but he definetely doesn't belong on the hw roster.

Da Iceman
11-17-2005, 06:58 PM
ali was natural lightheavy but he fought at heavyweight

Dempsey 1919
11-17-2005, 07:05 PM
ali was natural lightheavy but he fought at heavyweight

um, ali was a natural hw.

Da Iceman
11-17-2005, 07:20 PM
umm ali fought lightheavy in olympics he just wanted to fight at heavy

Dempsey 1919
11-17-2005, 07:24 PM
umm ali fought lightheavy in olympics he just wanted to fight at heavy

ali was 18 and still developing in the body. plus he was an inch shorter. plus he was really about 5 or 6 lbs heavier, but he fought at lhw because he wanted his younger brother rudy to make the olympics too, and rudy was a natural 200lbs.(although he still didn't make it)

KidBlackie
11-17-2005, 08:03 PM
You have a bad habit of being wrong, sorta like a bad smoking habit you can't kick. Ali turned pro at age 18 in the mid 190s. By the time he turned 20 he was edging up to 200 and hasn't been below 200 since then.
Ali never lifted a weight in his life either.

Dempsey 1919
11-17-2005, 08:15 PM
You have a bad habit of being wrong, sorta like a bad smoking habit you can't kick. Ali turned pro at age 18 in the mid 190s. By the time he turned 20 he was edging up to 200 and hasn't been below 200 since then.
Ali never lifted a weight in his life either.

thank you very much. ali was a true hw, the truest!

Da Iceman
11-17-2005, 09:25 PM
i gotta find a post where your wrong....

Dempsey 1919
11-18-2005, 12:34 PM
i gotta find a post where your wrong....

you won't because i'm right.