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Drewcyfer
11-07-2005, 01:13 PM
Hillary, Kennedy, Pelosi, Franken and Moore Caught!
Jim Meyers
Wednesday, Nov. 2, 2005
A new book by a top investigative journalist exposes the blatant hypocrisy of liberals who loudly espouse principles they disregard in their own personal lives.

In "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," Hoover Fellow Peter Schweizer reveals the glaring contradictions between the public stances and real-life behavior of prominent liberals including Michael Moore, Ted Kennedy, Al Franken, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Ralph Nader – among others.

"Hypocrisy has proved to be a wonderful weapon for liberals in their war against conservatives," Schweizer writes in the November issue of NewsMax Magazine.

"Yet for all the talk about conservative hypocrisy, there has been very little investigation into the prevalence of hypocrisy on the left."

After two years of research into liberal hypocrisy, Schweizer said, "what I discovered was just stunning."

Schweizer's well-annotated book, published by Doubleday, has just been released and its sure to turn several well-known liberals red with anger.

Among the eye-opening revelations of "Do As I Say":

Filmmaker Michael Moore insists that corporations are evil and claims he doesn't invest in the stock market due to moral principle. But Moore's IRS forms, viewed by Schweizer, show that over the past five years he has owned shares in such corporate giants as Halliburton, Merck, Pfizer, Sunoco, Tenet Healthcare, Ford, General Electric and McDonald's.

Staunch union supporter Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) has received the Cesar Chavez Award from the United Farmworkers Union. But the $25 million Northern California vineyard she and her husband own is a non-union shop.

The hypocrisy doesn't end there. Pelosi has received more money from the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees union than any other member of Congress in recent election cycles.

But the Pelosis own a large stake in an exclusive hotel in Rutherford, Calif. It has more than 250 employees. But none of them are in a union, according to Schweizer, author of "The Bushes: Portrait of a Dynasty" and a regular contributor to the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and other periodicals.

The Pelosis are also partners in a restaurant chain called Piatti, which has 900 employees. The chain is – that's right, a non-union shop.

Ralph Nader is another liberal who claims that unions are essential to protect worker rights. But when an editor of one of his publications tried to form a union to ameliorate miserable working conditions, the editor was fired and the locks changed on the office door.

Self-described socialist Noam Chomsky has described the Pentagon as "the most vile institution on the face of the earth" and lashed out against tax havens and trusts that benefit only the rich.

But Chomsky has been paid millions of dollars by the Pentagon over the last 40 years, and he used a venerable law firm to set up his irrevocable trust to shield his assets from the IRS.

Air America radio host Al Franken says conservatives are racist because they lack diversity and oppose affirmative action. But fewer than 1 percent of the people he has hired over the past 15 years have been African-American.

Ted Kennedy has fought for the estate tax and spoken out against tax shelters. But he has repeatedly benefited from an intricate web of trusts and private foundations that have shielded most of his family's fortune from the IRS.

One Kennedy family trust wasn't even set up in the U.S., but in Fiji.

Another family member, environmentalist Robert Kennedy Jr., has said that it is not moral to profit from natural resources. But he receives an annual check from the family's large holdings in the oil industry.

Barbra Streisand has talked about the necessity of unions to protect a "living wage." But she prefers to do her filming and postproduction work in Canada, where she can pay less than American union wages.

Bill and Hillary Clinton have spoken in favor of the estate tax, and in 2000 Bill vetoed a bill seeking to end it. But the Clintons have set up a contract trust that allows them to substantially reduce the amount of inheritance tax their estate will pay when they die.

Hillary, for her part, has written and spoken extensively about the right of children to make major decisions regarding their own lives.

But she barred 13-year-old daughter Chelsea from getting her ears pierced and forbid the teen from watching MTV or HBO.

Billionaire Bush-basher George Soros says the wealthy should pay higher, more progressive tax rates. But he holds the bulk of his money in tax-free overseas accounts in Curacao, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

Schweizer writes: "Liberals claim to support affirmative action but don't practice it. They support higher taxes but set up complicated tax shelters to avoid paying them. They claim to be ardent environmentalists but abandon their cause when it impinges on their own property rights.

"The reality is that liberals like to preach in moral platitudes. They like to condemn ordinary Americans and Republicans for a whole host of things - racism, lack of concern for the poor, polluting the environment, and greed.

"But when it comes to applying those same standards to themselves, liberals are found to be shockingly guilty of hypocrisy.

"The media and the American people need to hold them accountable."

Bombardier
11-07-2005, 01:16 PM
Okay, one more post and then I'm through...

I enjoy how you guys, instead of actually thinking about issues, just copy and paste articles written by other people. Somehow that's called "taking a stand" when really you're just aping someone else's ideas...and that someone else is usually just a crackpot after ratings, anyway.

This goes for the left and right wings. Seriously, people used to evaluate information on their own and then form their own opinions. Hitting ctrl+c ctrl+v does not make you an intellectual.

Okay, done now. So long, all and all.

PBDS
11-07-2005, 01:17 PM
....****in typical!!! The Micheal Moore investment activity is classic.

BLOODSHED
11-07-2005, 01:19 PM
Well said Bombardier. Yeah, they need to articulate a view. Not copy someone else's viewpoint.
Okay, one more post and then I'm through...

I enjoy how you guys, instead of actually thinking about issues, just copy and paste articles written by other people. Somehow that's called "taking a stand" when really you're just aping someone else's ideas...and that someone else is usually just a crackpot after ratings, anyway.

This goes for the left and right wings. Seriously, people used to evaluate information on their own and then form their own opinions. Hitting ctrl+c ctrl+v does not make you an intellectual.

Okay, done now. So long, all and all.

PBDS
11-07-2005, 01:19 PM
Okay, one more post and then I'm through...

I enjoy how you guys, instead of actually thinking about issues, just copy and paste articles written by other people. Somehow that's called "taking a stand" when really you're just aping someone else's ideas...and that someone else is usually just a crackpot after ratings, anyway.

This goes for the left and right wings. Seriously, people used to evaluate information on their own and then form their own opinions. Hitting ctrl+c ctrl+v does not make you an intellectual.

Okay, done now. So long, all and all.


...Nothing wrong with posting some fact based articles for all to view. If it was sheer opinion then you may have a point.

PBDS
11-07-2005, 01:20 PM
Well said Bombardier. Yeah, they need to articulate a view. Not copy someone else's viewpoint.


...Yes, and if we could only be as articulate as Nash we would all be but one mere step behind a retards IQ.

BLOODSHED
11-07-2005, 01:21 PM
40 something year old father here talking.... LOL!
...Yes, and if we could only be as articulate as Nash we would all be but one mere step behind a retards IQ.

PBDS
11-07-2005, 01:22 PM
40 something year old father here talking.... LOL!


...duh duh der der O.K. boss.

oldgringo
11-07-2005, 01:23 PM
This is just bull****, extremist right propaganda...

Michael Moore is a SAINT!






























*end humor* man theres no one to go to war over political issues anymore...neils, vbmartin, bombardier...they are all leaving or are gone :(

PBDS
11-07-2005, 01:35 PM
This is just bull****, extremist right propaganda...

Michael Moore is a SAINT!






























*end humor* man theres no one to go to war over political issues anymore...neils, vbmartin, bombardier...they are all leaving or are gone :(



...I feel bad at Bombardier getting so upset about that stuff. I really like that dude. I'm not posting anymore political stuff for a while.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 06:53 PM
There is nothing wrong with posting articles at all.......but Peter Schweizer is not an author who can be called 'objective'.

Both sides are pretty hypocritical.

Why just today Bush said "We don't torture." Yah, okay.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 06:58 PM
Also, that article is pretty vague and doesn't really cite any sources for that stuff. Especially the thing about Chomsky getting paid "millions by the pentagon".

Bombardier
11-07-2005, 07:23 PM
There is nothing wrong with posting articles at all.......but Peter Schweizer is not an author who can be called 'objective'.

Both sides are pretty hypocritical.

Why just today Bush said "We don't torture." Yah, okay.

It was a stupid thing to say, I wasn't in the best mood today.

pbds and Drew are good members of this site, I feel bad for going off like that.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 07:26 PM
It was a stupid thing to say, I wasn't in the best mood today.

pbds and Drew are good members of this site, I feel bad for going off like that.

Aw they are tough. They can take it. Don't say you feel bad in front of them, they will take it as a sign of weakness! Careful! Quick call them "War Mongering Fascist Bastards". They will respect you. :p

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 07:27 PM
Bush today saying "We don't torture" is almost as stupid as when he said "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levies"

Bombardier
11-07-2005, 07:31 PM
Aw they are tough. They can take it. Don't say you feel bad in front of them, they will take it as a sign of weakness! Careful! Quick call them "War Mongering Fascist Bastards". They will respect you. :p

lol, also, poor folk-hating rascists...I think that about covers it :D .

I guess my sabbatical is over. Who was I kidding, really, this site might as well be crack, you can't stay away for long.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 07:33 PM
lol, also, poor folk-hating rascists...I think that about covers it :D .

I guess my sabbatical is over. Who was I kidding, really, this site might as well be crack, you can't stay away for long.

Tis true. I get the shakes and the itch from staying away as long as I do at times.

masterdirector
11-07-2005, 09:06 PM
I would like actual proof, not just some republican extremist saying all this ****. I'd like actual picture proof. I smell lawsuits for this author.

Michael Moore is great. It'd be funny if he did own stock in Halliburton. McDonalds? Hell, he looks like he eats there all the time. Not surprised by that if that's even true. **** McDonalds though. McDonalds is killing the world.

Dr.Depravity
11-07-2005, 09:13 PM
Okay, one more post and then I'm through...

I enjoy how you guys, instead of actually thinking about issues, just copy and paste articles written by other people. Somehow that's called "taking a stand" when really you're just aping someone else's ideas...and that someone else is usually just a crackpot after ratings, anyway.

This goes for the left and right wings. Seriously, people used to evaluate information on their own and then form their own opinions. Hitting ctrl+c ctrl+v does not make you an intellectual.

Okay, done now. So long, all and all.
We are not copying somebody elses ideas, dude. This is the proof that we have always waited for already knowing the liberals are full of ****. Conservatives stick to the issues unless they have facts...and here they are.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 09:16 PM
We are not copying somebody elses ideas, dude. This is the proof that we have always waited for already knowing the liberals are full of ****. Conservatives stick to the issues unless they have facts...and here they are.

Heh, uh don't generalize about folks from either party. PLEASE. Especially saying Conservatives nowadays "Stick to the issues" the ones in power are great at finding distractions.

Super_Lightweight
11-07-2005, 09:47 PM
Uhh, what? Bush says we don't torute ppl, so what? Obviously that could be taken to mean he doesn't promote a policy of torture, which I haven't seen any evidence that he does. Please post such evidence or be quiet, like you told me.

RwK
11-07-2005, 10:02 PM
I would like actual proof, not just some republican extremist saying all this ****. I'd like actual picture proof. I smell lawsuits for this author.

Michael Moore is great. It'd be funny if he did own stock in Halliburton. McDonalds? Hell, he looks like he eats there all the time. Not surprised by that if that's even true. **** McDonalds though. McDonalds is killing the world.

Please dont tell me you are one of those individuals who believes the lies Moore tells.

He is by far the leader of propaganda.

He shapes, molds, and takes everything out of context that appears right wing.

He is after all a member of the media and a documentarian.

The guy is in it for money. Seriously.

I might throw up if I heard someone say he is a good guy, who is trying to right wrongs done by the conservative majority.

masterdirector
11-07-2005, 10:07 PM
Please dont tell me you are one of those individuals who believes the lies Moore tells.

He is by far the leader of propaganda.

He shapes, molds, and takes everything out of context that appears right wing.

He is after all a member of the media and a documentarian.

The guy is in it for money. Seriously.

I might throw up if I heard someone say he is a good guy, who is trying to right wrongs done by the conservative majority.

I don't care. Fahrenheit 9/11 was great. He's a really good documentary maker. There's no way everything he said was wrong. Say he's lying on some of it, big f'n deal. How much has Bush and every politician lied about? I don't trust the gov't. **** the US gov't.

Super_Lightweight
11-07-2005, 10:12 PM
Bowling for Columbine and F-911 can hardly be called documentaries. We examined these films in TOK class and they are full of propoganda and are straight-up DOCTORED.

As in no way in hell can you take Michael Moore seriously.

RwK
11-07-2005, 10:12 PM
I don't care. Fahrenheit 9/11 was great. He's a really good documentary maker. There's no way everything he said was wrong. Say he's lying on some of it, big f'n deal. How much has Bush and every politician lied about? I don't trust the gov't. **** the US gov't.

Most definitely.

He is an excellent filmmaker and documentarian. That I will say.

And in no way was everything he said wrong.....just extremely exaggerated.

On the Bowling for Columbine issue:

my goodness. Trying to make Dick Clark out to be the badguy.....and basically framing him as the culprit for that kid's murder is absolutely absurd.

His connections can be drawn in his documentaries with the aided assistance of weeping and violins.

I swear.

masterdirector
11-07-2005, 10:17 PM
Bowling for Columbine and F-911 can hardly be called documentaries. We examined these films in TOK class and they are full of propoganda and are straight-up DOCTORED.

As in no way in hell can you take Michael Moore seriously.

Umm...yes you can take him seriously, and should. He presents his view.

There is this misunderstanding that people have which is the belief that documentaries are not biased works. Most people who saw Moore's movies probably haven't watched very many documentaries. Almost all documentaries are biased as hell and exaggerated. They're not objective and not supposed to be. That would be stupid and boring.

Super_Lightweight
11-07-2005, 10:19 PM
It's not a documentary to be take seriously when it is doctored and falsified and supporting and extreme position of high fallibility. His docs are chopped and screwed like that rap guy's songs. Whoever he is, yeah, that one guy.

BLOODSHED
11-07-2005, 10:20 PM
Michael Moore doctored facts right.... sure...
It's not a documentary to be take seriously when it is doctored and falsified and supporting and extreme position of high fallibility. His docs are chopped and screwed like that rap guy's songs. Whoever he is, yeah, that one guy.

masterdirector
11-07-2005, 10:20 PM
It's not a documentary to be take seriously when it is doctored and falsified and supporting and extreme position of high fallibility. His docs are chopped and screwed like that rap guy's songs. Whoever he is, yeah, that one guy.

again, most documentaries are that way. documentarians show things to fit their viewpoint with clever editing. If they're good.

Watch that ****ty Fahrenhype movie. OMG, that was a horrible, quickly thrown together piece of ****.

Super_Lightweight
11-07-2005, 10:22 PM
Ok, thanks for agreeing with me. And since his "doc" is falsified blatantly and deliberately tries to deceive then it's not a good doc. Maybe ppl should demand accuracy instead of "respecting" someone point of view when it's full of lies.

RwK
11-07-2005, 10:22 PM
Yeah you both have good points in that:

A) A documentary is supposed to be from a biased perspective. It is afterall sole work of the creator, and he/she is the one trying to relay a message through film.

B) Farenheit could not be 100% true and things must be taken out of context, because like MD says it would be boring otherwise.

There is no denying this.

And I don't feel like arguing with a film major anyways.

Super_Lightweight
11-07-2005, 10:26 PM
Michael Moore's films are for entertainment purposes only.

I like his movies. I always get a good laugh out of em. I'll have to see Farhenhype. It probably exposes Moore (which is easy to do) but at the same time probably crosses the line itself.

RwK
11-07-2005, 10:28 PM
Michael Moore's films are for entertainment purposes only.


That was my one and only point.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:38 PM
Uhh, what? Bush says we don't torute ppl, so what? Obviously that could be taken to mean he doesn't promote a policy of torture, which I haven't seen any evidence that he does. Please post such evidence or be quiet, like you told me.

http://www.iowalum.com/magazine/apr05/images/abu_graib.jpg

http://www.stopterrorkrigen.dk/images/irak/torture6_lynndie_england.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1308346,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5092776/site/newsweek/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/swornstatements042104.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4934436/site/newsweek/

Do you need more? :D

PBDS
11-07-2005, 10:39 PM
http://www.iowalum.com/magazine/apr05/images/abu_graib.jpg

http://www.stopterrorkrigen.dk/images/irak/torture6_lynndie_england.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1308346,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5092776/site/newsweek/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/swornstatements042104.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4934436/site/newsweek/

Do you need more? :D



...Those damn kids and their frat pranks!! Cracks me up every time. :)

Super_Lightweight
11-07-2005, 10:41 PM
LOL...you're a funny guy. So that proves Bush promotes torture? Good one. Please explain. What inside info do you have of Bush calling Linsey the **** up and telling her to do that?

I'll come back for your "proof" in the morning.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:47 PM
As far as Bush knowing about it.....

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4999734/
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4999148/site/newsweek/

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:48 PM
LOL...you're a funny guy. So that proves Bush promotes torture? Good one. Please explain. What inside info do you have of Bush calling Linsey the **** up and telling her to do that?

I'll come back for your "proof" in the morning.

Sorry I misread what you said before. I thought you were asking for proof about torture. Had a bit to drink ya see.....

The previous post should link to a memo from Alberto Gonzalez to the president.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:51 PM
Oh yeah, I thought that the Washington post said something about this....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26401-2004Jun8.html

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:52 PM
If that is not enough for you let me know.

Though a photocopy of the memo from Gonzalez to GW should be good.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:55 PM
Uhh, what? Bush says we don't torute ppl, so what? Obviously that could be taken to mean he doesn't promote a policy of torture, which I haven't seen any evidence that he does. Please post such evidence or be quiet, like you told me.

Oh yeah.....where did I say Bush promotes torture?

****, I did all 40 seconds of that googling for nothing.

BLOODSHED
11-07-2005, 10:56 PM
Who is that in your avatar?

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:58 PM
Who is that in your avatar?

Michael Collins.

LuKahnLi
11-07-2005, 10:58 PM
I wonder if Super Lightweight will give me bad karma like last time.

neils7147933
01-10-2007, 11:00 AM
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<P class=subhead align=left><STRONG><FONT size=5><SPAN class=headlinenew>Democrats Beef Police State With 9/11 Commission Bill</SPAN><BR></FONT></STRONG>Political "opposition" also helping Bush gain traction for Iran military strike
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<P class=mediumtext1><EM>Paul Joseph Watson</EM><BR><A href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/index.html">Prison Planet</A><BR>Wednesday, January 10, 2007</P>
<P>House Democrats have passed a piece of legislation that was crafted on the back of recommendations made by the 9/11 Commission in their 2004 final report. The bill is a tonic for big government, increased federalization of America, and mandates expansion of no fly lists, terror watch lists and further government surveillance of American citizens.</P>
<P>While the <A href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.1.IH:" target=_blank>HR 1 bill</A> contains some welcome provisions, including a redress of grievance process for passengers unfairly delayed or refused boarding for flights and a re-commitment to the Geneva conventions, it's largely a nightmare for opponents of big government in that it vastly increases funding and scope for Homeland Security, FEMA and further federalizes law enforcement.</P>
<P>The legislation takes its cue directly from the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission report, which has been <A href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/060906Commission.htm" target=_blank>widely debunked by researchers and whistleblowers</A> as a self-appointed whitewash that was harnessed to bury important questions about the impossibility of the official story behind 9/11. Hyping the threat of terror beyond its reasonable capacity, ignoring the reality that <A href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/050107peanutskill.htm">peanut allergies and lightning strikes</A> kill more Americans than terrorists, Commission leaders Kean and Hamilton <A href="http://grumet.net/911/recommendations.html" target=_blank>encouraged a broad range of measures</A> that only accelerate the authoritarian surge towards a police state in America. They include;</P>
<P>- Homeland Security identity checkpoints on American roads and highways;</P>
<P>- Mandated biometric iris and finger scanning systems for all Americans at airports;</P>
<P>- Creation of a biometric national ID card for all American citizens;</P>
<P>- Expansion of "no-fly" and "watch lists" to prevent more Americans from traveling (even though such lists have been ridiculed time and time again for flagging completely innocent people including Senators and children);</P>
<P>- Increased special screening of all passengers at airports (greasing the skids for invasive body scanners that capture a naked image of the passenger to be implemented as standard);</P>
<P>- Federal takeover of publicly owned communication systems such as radio;</P>
<P>- Increased government surveillance of Americans' financial records and activities;</P>
<P>- Domesticating the CIA to watch American citizens;</P>
<P>- Government wide sharing of information and centralization of databases containing information about American citizens.</P>
<P>All of these recommendations were embraced by the 9/11 Commission and many of them are contained within the bill introduced by the Democrats that has already passed the House.</P>
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<P align=left>Meanwhile, on the geopolitical front Israel has resolved to use its powerful lobbying network to arm twist recalcitrant Democrats and media moguls into supporting military action against Iran. Retired Gen. Oded Tira recently admonished, "As an American air strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help (Bush) pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and U.S. newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure."</P>
<P>He continues, "Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran." Thus, Israel and its U.S. lobbying arm "must turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they publicly support immediate action by Bush against Iran." </P>
<P>Former prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu has also called upon Israel to "immediately launch an intense, international public relations front" aimed at the U.S. to sell the necessity of war.</P>
<P>Noted author and former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan warns us that "A propaganda campaign, using Israeli agents and their neocon auxiliaries and sympathizers, who stampeded us into war in Iraq, is being prepared to stampede us into war on Iran."</P>
<P>However, it doesn't appear that leading Democrats will take much convincing before pledging their loyal support for the next chapter of imperial suicide.</P>
<P>House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer recently assured readers of the Jerusalem Post in Israel that the Democrats were fully prepared to back the use of force against Iran and this sentiment is <A href="http://www.counterpunch.org/frank01092007.html" target=_blank>shared by a cadre of leading luminaries</A> including Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Bilderberg endorsed 2008 presidential candidate John Edwards and even darling of the left Barack Obama.</P>
<P>While Americans are placated by promises that Democrats will "symbolically" oppose President Bush's insane troop surge for Iraq, while they actively fund the entire venture through the power of the Congressional purse, the roadmap to Iran is being dutifully upheld by those who came to power vowing change yet are showing all the signs of reverting to type and lining up to salute the continued frog march towards world war three, while ensuring the further downfall of America into a police state at home. </P>
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Sin City
01-10-2007, 11:46 AM
you want to get up on hypocrisy get up on the Republican party they are the biggest hypocrites of them all how are some Republicans gonna vote against gay rights but be gay themselves? Theres people in the republican party who have made their daughters get abortions but voted against it. What about the guy who was chating it up with those pages and ****ing em?

Sin City
01-10-2007, 12:04 PM
Uhh, what? Bush says we don't torute ppl, so what? Obviously that could be taken to mean he doesn't promote a policy of torture, which I haven't seen any evidence that he does. Please post such evidence or be quiet, like you told me.
Why not say what he means? If he did not support a policy of torture he would say " We don't support a policy of torture!" but he says "We don't torture" but he knows what goes on in Guantanamo Bay. The main reason they have these camps outside of the U.S. is so they can torture. Okay they don't torture... Why are people in the camps dying everyday from these non lethal interrogation's?

Pinoy_Texan
01-10-2007, 02:00 PM
Hypocryte politicians? Say it ain't so.

Sin City
01-10-2007, 04:03 PM
Hypocryte politicians? Say it ain't so.
lol you know! everyone is human!