View Full Version : Dos Santos just proved striking is the only skillset that matters


Money Shot
11-12-2011, 09:44 PM
Edgar has kind of proved it also.

Boxingtech718v2
11-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Not just boxing but great mobility as well. I was impressed by his ability to move around and pick his spots properly.

Money Shot
11-12-2011, 09:49 PM
Not just boxing but great mobility as well. I was impressed by his ability to move around and pick his spots properly.


All he did was box, he has a great takedown defence but he didn't even need it. Wrestling and submission skills are great to have but there is no substitute for heavy fast hands like Dos Santos has.

SLIMY RAT
11-12-2011, 09:53 PM
ONLY?? don't be stupid

If Dos Santos didn't have good take down defence he wouldn't be half the fighter he is

Striking is a fantastic.. one of the best things to have but you do need other parts to your game

And sure this fight he didn't need it really but in the past he has vs the likes of Carwin

Boxingtech718v2
11-12-2011, 09:53 PM
All he did was box, he has a great takedown defence but he didn't even need it. Wrestling and submission skills are great to have but there is no substitute for heavy fast hands like Dos Santos has.

He did have to use it when Cain grabbed his leg after an attempted kick. For a big guy he looks pretty agile on his feet. If he can stay healthy he should have a long run as champ.

PopoFreitas
11-12-2011, 09:54 PM
I guess you didn't saw him defending cain's single leg lol.

anyway, watch one-dimensional strikers fighting in MMA... other fighters wont even trade a single punch with them, they just go for the takedown.

The fact that Cain had to mix it up to get inside to try a double leg is what made him vulnerable to the Ko blow.

Money Shot
11-12-2011, 10:02 PM
I guess you didn't saw him defending cain's single leg lol.

anyway, watch one-dimensional strikers fighting in MMA... other fighters wont even trade a single punch with them, they just go for the takedown.

The fact that Cain had to mix it up to get inside to try a double leg is what made him vulnerable to the Ko blow.



LOL. That micro second when he touched Do Santos's leg. yeah, I missed that. He caught him with one shot and he was toast. Next up Lesnar and Overreem, two more jokes to be honest.

BKM-2010
11-12-2011, 11:09 PM
If your grappling defense is extremely good like his, you can win just with striking sure.

Marchegiano
11-13-2011, 10:13 AM
ONLY?? don't be stupid

If Dos Santos didn't have good take down defence he wouldn't be half the fighter he is

Striking is a fantastic.. one of the best things to have but you do need other parts to your game

And sure this fight he didn't need it really but in the past he has vs the likes of Carwin

Only indeed. Takedown defense is an old boxing skill not a new MMA skill. Started in boxing, and the masters are still boxers.

dough401
11-13-2011, 12:02 PM
Edgar has kind of proved it also.

You made this as a joke thread right? You cant be serious that all you need is boxing to win in the UFC... If that was the case for just 1 example Liddell wouldve never lost a fight ever best hands 205 has ever seen you need good hands to win these fights and it does nutrelize guys with only good wrestling but u need much much more the just boxing to win a fight... Oh yeah and i took JDS by KO
Also ask James Toney my favorite boxer in history about good boxing

-Swizzy-
11-13-2011, 01:05 PM
Edgar has kind of proved it also.

boxing troll I'm assuming.

Dos Santos is also good at BJJ(as are all Brazilians). You CANNOT be only good at one thing and be a UFC champ right now.

Edgar is able to strike against non strikers because he can keep the fight standing up. Doesn't matter how could your striking is, If a fighter cannot defend a takedown or defend the bottom position on the ground, their striking skill won't matter. Thats why so many boxers and kick boxers who come into MMA without a ground game, end up having losing records.

F l i c k e r
11-13-2011, 05:17 PM
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Money Shot
11-13-2011, 07:14 PM
boxing troll I'm assuming.

Dos Santos is also good at BJJ(as are all Brazilians). You CANNOT be only good at one thing and be a UFC champ right now.

Edgar is able to strike against non strikers because he can keep the fight standing up. Doesn't matter how could your striking is, If a fighter cannot defend a takedown or defend the bottom position on the ground, their striking skill won't matter. Thats why so many boxers and kick boxers who come into MMA without a ground game, end up having losing records.



You'll admit a water tight takedown defence and A level (for MMA) stand up will get you a long way in MMA. Someone like Liddel was the archetype for it until he got old and chinny. Most of these fights on the ground end up as choke holds through exhaustion, but guys that are hard to take down are less vulnerable to it so it can be nullified and turned into a straight stand up battle. MMA fans don't even like the ground wrestling, they want to see fists and kicks.

Blair_Wells#32
11-13-2011, 07:44 PM
Congrats to Dos Santos :) always knew he'd be great, that being said when Brocks done with Overeem next month it'll be Easier for him to get the belt back then it would have been with Cain.
Dos Santos and Overeem lack the Gas tank to hang with Brock or Cain if they use their Wrestling to wear em out an finish on the ground....which Brock said he would have done.
it should be an entertaining 2012 in the HW divsion with Cain and Brock Rematch, and Dos Santos vs Overeem type of fights.

monaroCountry
11-13-2011, 09:32 PM
LOL. That micro second when he touched Do Santos's leg. yeah, I missed that. He caught him with one shot and he was toast. Next up Lesnar and Overreem, two more jokes to be honest.

Ive supported JDS to win this fight for ever.

JDS should also steamroll Lesnar but will get KO'd by Overeem. Overeem is an experienced and legit opponent unlike Lesnar and Cain. Overeem is also the best kickboxer in MMA and most easily the best kickboxer in the UFC.