View Full Version : Joe Louis is underrated these days


davros2010
11-06-2011, 08:12 AM
I see loads of posters on the NSB saying that Louis wouldnt stand a chance against the likes of Wlad, Vitali or Lewis. They seem to think that Louis was some unskilled midget that never fought anyone above 6ft tall. When you watch some of his fights before his layoff during the war he looks great to me incredible punching ability very good at slipping punches. He never had any wasted movement and he beat a lot of big guys he seemed to be very good at beating taller fighters. I think Louis is better than any active fighter today and would beat all the current heavyweights.

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IronDanHamza
11-06-2011, 08:46 AM
He may be underrated by younger fans and outright idiots.

But to knowledgeable guys, especially in this section, he is far from underrated.

He is considered if not THE greatest Heavyweight of all time, the lowest he is widely ranked is #2.

And in my mind a Top 20 ATG.

TheGreatA
11-06-2011, 08:57 AM
He was an awesome force and it's rather difficult to make an argument that he wasn't one of the top two greatest heavyweights to ever live.

At 6'2 and 208 pounds (against 6'4+, 250+ lb Simon & Baer) he would fit in with the majority of today's heavyweights. Povetkin, Adamek, Haye, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Chambers, Boytsov, Arreola among others were no bigger, some may have weighed more but that's because Louis only ever showed up in peak condition except later in his career.

Barn
11-06-2011, 09:33 AM
Louis is one of the stupidest examples someone who nuthugs modern fighters could use. Considering he routinely beat heavier fighters and had a very modern style.

I rank Joe Louis the Number 2 Heavyweight of all time and I don't see how anyone can rank him lower. He is also in the Top 2 H2H Heavyweights of all time in my opinion.

davros2010
11-06-2011, 10:59 AM
Louis is one of the stupidest examples someone who nuthugs modern fighters could use. Considering he routinely beat heavier fighters and had a very modern style.

I rank Joe Louis the Number 2 Heavyweight of all time and I don't see how anyone can rank him lower. He is also in the Top 2 H2H Heavyweights of all time in my opinion.

I remember posting a year ago saying i thought Louis would beat Wlad and all the Wlad fans called me an idiot. They have probably never watched Louis fight.

Barn
11-06-2011, 11:04 AM
I remember posting a year ago saying i thought Louis would beat Wlad and all the Wlad fans called me an idiot. They have probably never watched Louis fight.
No probably about it, they haven't.

Joeyzagz
11-06-2011, 11:42 AM
I noticed that Simon was using the grab/lean tactic on Joe Louis and he weighs even more than Wlad. Joe had to have incredible stamina to withstand a big man like that.

He won every fight against his 230+ opponents by Knockout. Two-Ton Tony had never been down in his career and was keeled over from a Louis punch.

Joeyzagz
11-06-2011, 11:45 AM
Id put Dempsey in that same category of past fighters who could fight today. Speed, power translates to any era.

Not sure about Marciano because I never saw him beat big men, but hed dominate Cruiserweight division.

BigStereotype
11-06-2011, 01:40 PM
Maybe by dip****s who don't really know the sport, but who cares what they think? Anyone with proper respect for the history of boxing knows how great Joe Louis was.

BigStereotype
11-06-2011, 01:41 PM
Id put Dempsey in that same category of past fighters who could fight today. Speed, power translates to any era.

Not sure about Marciano because I never saw him beat big men, but hed dominate Cruiserweight division.

Sometimes, I have dreams about Dempsey and Marciano at cruiserweight today. I'd give anything to see that.

Sugarj
11-06-2011, 04:41 PM
It says something about NSB.

If you placed a poll here as to who was the greatest heavyweight that ever lived, I've got a feeling Louis would come out top.

I personally would go with Ali, but I've noticed a gradual shift among history section posters towards Louis's claim.

Wlad is a good heavyweight, I think his sheer caution, jab and heavy hands would cause many an ATG problems. But with Louis he is beaten for speed, workrate, tenacity and combination punching.

MJ223
11-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Hey fellas its a Joe Frazier appreciation thread in NSB and I would greatly appreciate it if you guys stopped by.

lightsout_finit
11-06-2011, 06:30 PM
At his best B Bomber would f*ck up any heavyweight ever other than Ali

Louis was one of the best finishers of all time in any division...........

TBear
11-07-2011, 12:20 AM
He may be underrated by younger fans and outright idiots.

But to knowledgeable guys, especially in this section, he is far from underrated.

He is considered if not THE greatest Heavyweight of all time, the lowest he is widely ranked is #2.

And in my mind a Top 20 ATG.

I rank him much higher than that. Top 10 ATG.

bojangles1987
11-07-2011, 06:32 AM
Louis was an unreal offensive fighter. I've said before that I have reservations comparing fighters whose primes were 70-80 years apart in a head to head matchup, but there isn't any question about Louis's greatness or his place in history far, far, far ahead of either Wlad or Vitali.

Forza
11-07-2011, 10:26 AM
25 title defenses, K.O power in both hands, could knock you out with a 6 inch punch

nuff said

- Ram Raid -
11-07-2011, 11:23 AM
Even taking in Wlad's size and how good he currently is at safe-guarding a fight, he's never fought anyone like Louis. Theres very little chance if any that he'd be able to keep him at bay.

Louis was extraordinary.

Marchegiano
11-07-2011, 11:47 AM
Louis is one of the stupidest examples someone who nuthugs modern fighters could use. Considering he routinely beat heavier fighters and had a very modern style.


Word, Louis is the absolute best HW to watch, and compare to when learning the hands and feet of the sweet science. For head movement I like to go a bit more modern mostly because camera work is better these days. Anyway Louis is the text-book boxer-slugger. The most well rounded, and efficient boxer to ever grace the division....he'd kill Wlad.