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The Boxing Gob
11-06-2011, 03:48 AM
over the last couple of years i have read many posters comments on this forum without ever responing. Those posters have trashed Smokin Joe Frazier claiming him to not be an ATG Top 10 fighter, they have rubbished his acheivments and claimed he would be slaughtered by the likes of Klitschko brothers & Lewis etc. Now those same posters are posting comments about how great Joe Frazier was now that he is suffering from Liver Cancer. `what a bunch of hypocrites`

McGoorty
11-06-2011, 04:23 AM
over the last couple of years i have read many posters comments on this forum without ever responing. Those posters have trashed Smokin Joe Frazier claiming him to not be an ATG Top 10 fighter, they have rubbished his acheivments and claimed he would be slaughtered by the likes of Klitschko brothers & Lewis etc. Now those same posters are posting comments about how great Joe Frazier was now that he is suffering from Liver Cancer. `what a bunch of hypocrites`
By the looks of things, this thread must be directed at those in NonStopBoxing section, because that is simply not the case here,... the majority here mostly like Frazier a lot,... N.S.B. however may be a different story,,.. a lot of Klitards there.

IronDanHamza
11-06-2011, 06:42 AM
I'm not sure who you're talking about but I currently and always have considered Joe Fraizer to be an ATG, Top 10 HW.

Barn
11-06-2011, 06:47 AM
I'm not sure who you're talking about but I currently and always have considered Joe Fraizer to be an ATG, Top 10 HW.
Agreed. I had him 8 on my list. Joe Frazier has almost always been my favourite Heavyweight. It used to be Ali for a month or two when I didn't know ***** about boxing. Then at 14 I watched the Thrilla in Manilla Doc and well, that changed my opinion drastically.

I was planning to head through to the HOF in the next year or two to meet him and my other favourites but, it looks like I'm not going to be able to.

Barn
11-06-2011, 06:56 AM
well i aint gonna name names but those i am talking about know who they are. they post here in the history section almost daily and have several thousand posts, they usually "gang up" on anyone who expresses an opinion which differs from their opinion and they have trashed Joe Frazier when ever his name is mentioned on this forum. one guy in particular even has authority in this section yet claims Joe Frazier is not an ATG or a Top 10 fighter, the same guy also makes those same claims about Rocky Marciano.
You can still respect a fighter and not rank him in the Top 10. I don't think I rank Dempsey in the Top 10 HW but, I've never been rash about it and I still respect him.

I feel the poster you're talking about only differs in opinion but, still respects Smokin' Joe. It's not as if he goes out of his way to tarnish his legacy he still remains to look at it objectively and just comes to a different opinion about it.

Ranking is very subjective and that should be taken into account when reading lists.

You do get some idiots out there though, prinzemanspoppa is one who has always went out his way to put down the great Joe Frazier but, thankfully he is banned now.

NChristo
11-06-2011, 07:21 AM
well i aint gonna name names but those i am talking about know who they are. they post here in the history section almost daily and have several thousand posts, they usually "gang up" on anyone who expresses an opinion which differs from their opinion and they have trashed Joe Frazier when ever his name is mentioned on this forum. one guy in particular even has authority in this section yet claims Joe Frazier is not an ATG or a Top 10 fighter, the same guy also makes those same claims about Rocky Marciano.

Name names, you seem to have quite a strong opinion on this so why not ?.

Don't make a thread directed at people then hide who you're talking about, because for one I don't have a clue who it is and this seems like a pretty random thread.

BattlingNelson
11-06-2011, 07:41 AM
Name names, you seem to have quite a strong opinion on this so why not ?.

Don't make a thread directed at people then hide who you're talking about, because for one I don't have a clue who it is and this seems like a pretty random thread.
The only one I can remember as a Frazier hater is princemanpooh and he cannot post here anymore so yeah. TS has to give some names or STFU.

UglyPug
11-06-2011, 07:45 AM
ive said that i believe the klitschko brothers would KO Frazier. . . But I've also defended his accolades and rightful position in the hall of fame (which lyle fitzsimmons said he didn't belong there - i put lyle in his place). . .

but even if a poster doesn't believe he would beat a certain fighter, or isn't a top 10 ATG HW (which i don't think he is), doesn't mean they can't respect and love the guy and honor WHAT HE DID achieve. . .

has nothing to do with people who don't believe he's as good as others (even poor lyle fitzsimmons) having respect for him and honoring him for the memories. . .

UglyPug
11-06-2011, 07:48 AM
TS is just trying to sound like he's "in the know" and has known something about frazier all along before he got ill that nobody else has. . . names and quotes, tits, or gtfo.

TheGreatA
11-06-2011, 08:52 AM
Even if you don't rate him highly as a fighter (although in my view it's quite impossible not to) you can still pay your respects to the man now that he's in a bad way.

jjbj2
11-06-2011, 09:26 AM
I'm not scared.

If you are referring to me then I admit it.

Man, Klitschko brothers will give "Smokin" Joe Frazier one hell of a battle like the George Foreman fight all over again.

Also, I never said he doesn't belong in anyone's ATG. My point was and is that people should consider the Klitschko brothers (or at least one of them) to be an ATG.

And the issue right now is different the man is dying of cancer way different from a "fantasy fight" discussion. I never wish for the guy to die.

"Enemies today can be friends tomorrow."

Live by that moral saying because if not then you live your life in bitterness and that can get toxic quick.

I don't think you will understand my position but at least know I am not looking for a boxer's death especially good people like Joe Frazier.

Barn
11-06-2011, 09:29 AM
I'm not scared.

If you are referring to me then I admit it.

Man, Klitschko brothers will give "Smokin" Joe Frazier one hell of a battle like the George Foreman fight all over again.

Also, I never said he doesn't belong in anyone's ATG. My point was and is that people should consider the Klitschko brothers (or at least one of them) to be an ATG.

And the issue right now is different the man is dying of cancer way different from a "fantasy fight" discussion. I never wish for the guy to die.

"Enemies today can be friends tomorrow."

Live by that moral saying because if not then you live your life in bitterness and that can get toxic quick.

I don't think you will understand my position but at least know I am not looking for a boxer's death especially good people like Joe Frazier.
Considering the Kiltschko's punching style plays directly into Fraziers bobbing and weaving unlike Foremans wild swinging punches coupled with the fact the Klits punches are no way as concussive as Foremans I think it's silly to say it would be like the Formean fight all over again.

Foreman is the single worst style match up for Frazier.

Scott9945
11-06-2011, 09:29 AM
over the last couple of years i have read many posters comments on this forum without ever responing. Those posters have trashed Smokin Joe Frazier claiming him to not be an ATG Top 10 fighter, they have rubbished his acheivments and claimed he would be slaughtered by the likes of Klitschko brothers & Lewis etc. Now those same posters are posting comments about how great Joe Frazier was now that he is suffering from Liver Cancer. `what a bunch of hypocrites`

So if you don't think Frazier would have beaten Klitschko, Lewis, etc, then you can't pay tribute to the man and his career? Or be saddened by his grave illness? That really sounds very childish. You should learn to distinguish nitpicking through fantasy matchups/all time ratings and real life and death situations. Real boxing fans all respect Joe Frazier.

DarkTerror88
11-06-2011, 10:16 AM
Any man who does not respect Joe Frazier, is no man at all.

I rank him higher than anyone else on this goddamn site or any boxing site for that matter. I have him at number five and will gladly keep him there. None of you knew Joe like i did. i bet i have more logical reasons for having Joe at number 5 than most people do for having him out of the top 10.

Anyone who is talking crap and the man is dying, better stay a good 500 miles away from me.

Barn
11-06-2011, 10:31 AM
Any man who does not respect Joe Frazier, is no man at all.

I rank him higher than anyone else on this goddamn site or any boxing site for that matter. I have him at number five and will gladly keep him there. None of you knew Joe like i did. i bet i have more logical reasons for having Joe at number 5 than most people do for having him out of the top 10.

Anyone who is talking crap and the man is dying, better stay a good 500 miles away from me.
Word on the street is you've got a Smokin' Joe-esque left hook :)

And man I'm sorry for what is most likely going to be your loss, it must be really hard for you.

Scott9945
11-06-2011, 11:17 AM
You are one of the guys i mentioned who trashed Frazier at every opportunity yet now your changing your tune. just like your other two buddies

How about you reproduce any post where I ever disrespected Joe Frazier as a fighter.

Put up or shut up, Fanboy. And who the hell are are my "two buddies"?

JAB5239
11-06-2011, 11:49 AM
How about you reproduce any post where I ever disrespected Joe Frazier as a fighter.

Put up or shut up, Fanboy. And who the hell are are my "two buddies"?

I'd sure like to know the same thing, and Im going to give this guy a few hours to produce or this thread will be deleted as a troll thread.

GJC
11-06-2011, 12:09 PM
I echo that DT this sad news must be hitting you harder than most on here.
As for people who have possibly criticised Frazier in the past now paying tribute to him, that strikes me as a class act rather than a hypocritical one.
Any man who climbs those 4 steps into a ring at any level deserves respect, a fighter like Joe who only lost to two of the greatest deserves more respect than most

UglyPug
11-06-2011, 02:12 PM
go ahead and delete it, you along with the other poster i reveiled should be ashamed of yourselves. you call yourselves boxing fans yet you both have rubbished the career of Joe Frazier for a couple of years now. i knew it would not take long for you both to crawl out of the woodwork to gang-up on me coz that is the way you both operate on this forum. yet both you cannot deny the claims i have made, as for you both wanting me to trawl through your old posts to show evidence then `No Thanks, do it yourselves there is a huge amount for you both to dwell on from your old posts. you both are the sole reason this forum is not a very enjoyable place to talk boxing :wave:


LOL Jab has always been a frazier SUPPORTER. . . in fact, if anything, Jab has DEFENDED frazier against people who said he is overrated, etc. . .

Me and Jab don't see eye to eye on the Klitschko brothers, but Jab is pretty fair when it comes to gauging fighters from past fistic eras.

I've always been a fan of Frazier, but I did, and still do think he would get beat by a lot of top guys. . . I have criticized Joe's game. . . While I think he is a HOF fighter all the way, and a LEGEND, I don't think he's a top 10 HW. . . That doesn't mean I can't mourn his current state just the same as a guy who claims he is a top 10 ATG, and who disagreed with me on Joe's ability.

BigStereotype
11-06-2011, 02:21 PM
I think Joe's a tad overrated as a fighter, but I still love watching him fight and respect the hell out of him as a man. And even if I didn't, it's always sad when you see someone who was used to be physically dominant a shell of himself and near the end.

bojangles1987
11-06-2011, 03:40 PM
go ahead and delete it, you along with the other poster i reveiled should be ashamed of yourselves. you call yourselves boxing fans yet you both have rubbished the career of Joe Frazier for a couple of years now. i knew it would not take long for you both to crawl out of the woodwork to gang-up on me coz that is the way you both operate on this forum. yet both you cannot deny the claims i have made, as for you both wanting me to trawl through your old posts to show evidence then `No Thanks, do it yourselves there is a huge amount for you both to dwell on from your old posts. you both are the sole reason this forum is not a very enjoyable place to talk boxing :wave:

You're officially trolling. I wasn't sure, but accusing Jab of hating on Frazier put it over the edge. Good trolls are more subtle than this.

Mohammedini
11-06-2011, 04:09 PM
ive said that i believe the klitschko brothers would KO Frazier. . . But I've also defended his accolades and rightful position in the hall of fame (which lyle fitzsimmons said he didn't belong there - i put lyle in his place). . .

but even if a poster doesn't believe he would beat a certain fighter, or isn't a top 10 ATG HW (which i don't think he is), doesn't mean they can't respect and love the guy and honor WHAT HE DID achieve. . .

has nothing to do with people who don't believe he's as good as others (even poor lyle fitzsimmons) having respect for him and honoring him for the memories. . .
OFC the Klitschkos would KO him!
He was 6' ft and chubby 200 lber, The Klitschko brothers are 6'7, 6'8 and cut to get to 240-250.
Thats like fighting a midget 3 weight classes below you.
Wow that would really be an impressive win for the Klitschko brothers right?

JAB5239
11-06-2011, 04:41 PM
go ahead and delete it, you along with the other poster i reveiled should be ashamed of yourselves. you call yourselves boxing fans yet you both have rubbished the career of Joe Frazier for a couple of years now. i knew it would not take long for you both to crawl out of the woodwork to gang-up on me coz that is the way you both operate on this forum. yet both you cannot deny the claims i have made, as for you both wanting me to trawl through your old posts to show evidence then `No Thanks, do it yourselves there is a huge amount for you both to dwell on from your old posts. you both are the sole reason this forum is not a very enjoyable place to talk boxing :wave:

Good old Sonnyboy back to grace us with his trolling. Well say good bye to this thread and your short lived stay back in this section. How many forums have you been schooled in and kicked out of now?