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Truth
12-27-2004, 06:54 PM
"Roy's HBO hopes on the ropes
Bob Raissman, Ny Daily

Since being defeated in consecutive fights, Roy Jones Jr. faces an uncertain future, but he may be in for a fight outside the squared circle.

In a recent letter sent to HBO Sports boss Ross Greenburg, Wayne Pacelle, president/CEO of The Humane Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal protection organization (over eight million members), asked the network to fire Jones if he does not give up his heavy - and lengthy - involvement in ****fighting.

"It hurts everyone's efforts to have a celebrated sports figure promoting this horrendous activity," Pacelle said in the letter. "We are confident that HBO will hold its newly hired representative (Jones) up to a higher standard and that you will ask him to cease his ****fighting activity or face sanction from HBO up to, and including, possible dismissal."

This year, Jones replaced George Foreman as HBO Sports' No. 1 boxing analyst, working with Larry Merchant and Jim Lampley. Jones also holds the distinction of fighting more times (29) on HBO's "World Championship Boxing" than any fighter in the history of the series.

"We appreciate their (The Humane Society's) concern," said Ray Stallone, an HBO Sports spokesman. "When our sports executives return from the holidays we will certainly review the issue."

In his letter, Pacelle says the issue of Jones' particpation in ****fighting should be of "critical importance" to HBO because "****fighting is a barbaric and gruesome practice, causing untold suffering to tens of thousands of birds a year."

****fighting is illegal in 48 states. It is legal in parts of New Mexico and Louisiana. According to Pacelle, Jones recently purchased a ****fighting pit - "Pearl of the Bayou" - near Franklinton, La. Jones also raises fighting ****s on his farm in Pensacola, Fla., where he resides.

"By employing Mr. Jones, HBO is aligning itself with an individual who openly promotes and profits from ****fighting. We urge HBO to take a firm and public position against this blood sport," Pacelle said. "Specifically, we request that HBO disassociate itself from Jones unless he agrees to shut down his ****fighting pit and no longer participates in any form of animal fighting."

In 1999, HBO's "Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel" did a story on ****fighting. Jones appeared in the piece and spoke about his participation in ****fighting. And in a February 2003 interview conducted on Jones' 88-acre farm, Daily News boxing writer Tim Smith described "the small, white plastic and silver-corrugated tepees" that house the ****s.

At the time, Jones was training for his WBA heavyweight title fight with John Ruiz. "They (the ****s) stay ready to kill or be killed," Jones said.

Pacelle said Jones has "actively lobbied" against a Florida law making it a felony "not only to fight animals, but to possess animals for the purpose of fighting."

Ironically, HBO's "Real Sports" has shown a sensitivity toward animal issues. Not only did "Real Sports" air the ****fighting piece, but it recently presented an examination on the overbreeding of greyhound dogs, who are trained to race. The feature detailed the consequences when a greyhound's racing career is over and it is discarded.

Hot air

In his stint on ESPN-1050 last week, Stephen A. Smith proved to be a fearless philosopher.

He also gave the local sports talk scene a truly unique sound. Not since Chris (Mad Dog) Russo broke in on WMCA in the late 1980s has such an original been dropped in our laps. Smith had it all going. Engaging. Funny. Infuriating and, in his own way, quite rational.

This obviously has dawned on the suits at ESPN-1050. Well-embedded moles say ESPN-1050 execs have offered Smith a permanent gig at the station, most likely in the 10 a.m.-1 p.m. slot.

Alas, their offer may have come too late.

Stoolies say Smith's representatives are already in serious negotiations with ESPN TV brass (the network is run separately from the radio station) that could lead to the ubiquitous Stephen A., already a mainstay in ESPN's NBA studio, getting his own half-hour interview show.

If the professors at Bristol Clown Community College have their propeller beanies on straight they better get this new show with Smith up and running - pronto.

A lot of Kay to go around

As reported here before, it's only a matter of time until ESPN-1050 moves "The Michael Kay Show" to afternoon drive (4p.m.-7p.m.). When this happens, Kay, the play-by-play voice of the Yankees on YES, won't be able to do any of his ESPN-1050 shows from inside Yankee Stadium.

Spies say suits at Infinity Broadcasting (the company that owns WFAN and WCBS-AM, the Yankees radio home) intend to enforce a clause in WCBS's Yankees contract stating the station has exclusivity when it comes to broadcasting inside the Stadium and Legends Field in Tampa.

So, maybe Kay is forced to do his show from outside the Stadium. Maybe in the parking lot. Guess he'll just have to bring the Port-O-Potty.

Bobby V's new frequency

Listening to Bobby Valentine on WFAN last week, and hearing all the nice things he had to say about the station, it sure sounded like an exercise in revisionist history.

Valentine's fiery interviews with Mike Francesa and Russo ain't what I'm talking about.

Flash back to 1998. Valentine, then manager of the Mets, bolted his weekly segment with FranDog and signed a deal with the old "One on One Sports (AM 620)" to do a weekly half-hour show produced by the Madison Square Garden Radio Network.

Valentine split FAN because he believed Joe Torre, who was also doing a weekly spot with FranDog, was being paid more. Valentine made his feelings known to then-FAN GM Joel Hollander in a contentious nose-to-nose conversation.

This led to one of Hollander's (now Infinity Broadcasting boss) more memorable lines: "If in fact it's true (that Valentine is going to "One On One"), it's unfortunate for Bobby because I know he likes to talk, but nobody will hear him."

Plenty to celebrate

After reading how I felt about the rather shilly celebration of Isiah Thomas' first year as Knicks president, reader Doug Giardini e-mailed a list of some future Knicks "celebrations."

"Isiah's 1,000th trade."

"Lenny Wilkens 100th assistant (Does Mark Aguirre have a cousin?)."

And ... "The 50th Chicago Bull to be traded to the Knicks."

Dude of the Week: Cris Collinsworth

For saying the $75,000 fine levied by the NFL on Jags safety Donovin Darius - for his vicious clothesline hit on Packers wideout Robert Ferguson - amounted to no justice. On HBO's "Inside the NFL" Collinsworth said the league is dealing in a double standard. "Let's flip the scenario around," Collinsworth said. "If that same hit was put on Brett Favre running down the field they (NFL suits) line him (Darius) up against a brick wall, offer him a cigarette and a blindfold and shoot him." Collinsworth said if the league doesn't start assessing stiffer penalties to DBs who flip receivers, "we will soon have another Darryl Stingley on our hands."

Dweeb of the Week: Chad Pennington

After he served up his moronic Monday press conference comments, reporters from sea to shining sea began scrambling to see if the Chadster was really ever a Rhodes Scholar candidate. Seriously, Pennington proved he's a pro at sticking his foot in his mouth. He also provided evidence he has a bad case of Thin Skinitis. Interesting how so many Jets fans came to his defense. How fast do you think they'll turn on Pennington if he goes in the tank today against New England? Come to think of it, the media might not be kind either. Win or lose, Pennington should feel privileged to appear in this space.

Double Talk

What Stephon Marbury said (after Knicks were blown out by Dallas): "You just keep getting whupped and whupped and whupped and eventually it's over with."

What Stephon Marbury meant to say: "We quit. Now get that (expletive deleted) microphone out of my face."

Originally published on December 26, 2004

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE :D

Mr. Ryan
12-27-2004, 06:59 PM
As a fighter, I don't like Jones, but he's a pretty good announcer to me. My favorite boxer-announcer of all time who doesn't have a grill named after him is Mike Tyson. Remember Simon Brown-Vincent Pettway? "Is that a cut? Is that a cut?" That **** was hilarious.

Boxerdog
12-27-2004, 07:03 PM
I am against animal cruelty certainly but Roid should be fired
just because of his inability to enunciate. You can't understand him half the time. Ray Leonard was bad but compared to R.J., he sounds like Richard Burton!

neils7147933
12-27-2004, 07:53 PM
He's not a very good announcer, but if HBO bows to this terrorist group, then that's not going to go over well with potential talent they hope to do business with. When was the last time PETA sponsored a fight? Or the Humane Society? Screw those guys.

Miguel Cotto X 23
12-27-2004, 07:57 PM
I dont think he will be fire.

QueenCity
12-27-2004, 08:22 PM
I've always been steaming about Foreman no longer being with HBO, I like Roy Jones as a announcer okay but he's no Big George.

neils7147933
12-27-2004, 08:27 PM
Even Big George didn't seem all that great to me. They can have a ring correspondent backstage doing the Jim Gray thing that's a recognizable ex-boxer, but I'd rather hear a boxing journalist than an ex-boxer, even if the boxer has applicable knowledge, because those guys are rarely well-spoken enough to pull it off.

And that's not a stereotype of a dumb athlete, it's just a reality. There's a few guys that can pull it off, but just being an athlete doesn't make you a capable broadcaster. Look at Greg Anthony or Eric Dickerson in other sports. Remember Tommy Davidson doing Sugar Ray Leonard on In Living Color? There's no shame in putting someone outside the boxing world on the telecast if they're knowledgeable and can express themselves well. Same thing as putting wrestlers in back stage skits or having TO open MNF in a bit to promote another show; most of the time it's just a little amateur, but sometimes it's flat-out embarassing how bad they are.

IwatchBoxing
12-27-2004, 08:33 PM
Roy Jones is a great addition on HBO and I would hate for him to be fired over this

Marjoh
12-27-2004, 08:51 PM
What ever happened to the grillmeister anyway? And as for the ****fighting, I'm kinda against animal cruelty (defends on the animal), but ****fighting is actually entertaining. I first saw one when I was like eight, and I was amaze. I like those miniature boxing glove (well, it kinda looks like one) they put on the rooster on practices. That alone should be legal because it's not that different from boxing, IMO. So I really don't know my take on that issue.

But I understand RJJ is a pro and I guess it's a little inappropriate.

oldgringo
12-27-2004, 09:00 PM
They should replace him with Max Kellerman...can you imagine Max and Merchant getting into it? Larry with his slow, drunken drawl and Max with his quick-tongued, somewhat annoying arrogance.

QueenCity
12-27-2004, 09:16 PM
They should replace him with Max Kellerman...can you imagine Max and Merchant getting into it? Larry with his slow, drunken drawl and Max with his quick-tongued, somewhat annoying arrogance.

wow, that combo could be deadly

wissy
12-27-2004, 11:55 PM
Stupid animal rights activists, any money that a few of em eat KFC or some form of chicken meat.

damonbleed
12-28-2004, 12:12 AM
I like Roy Jones as an announcer.He breaks down a fight better than any announcer I can think of.I hate Jim Grey. A bit off topic,but he just annoys the snot out of me.

Hurlex
12-28-2004, 12:13 AM
max and larry...oh lol...thats good times..hehe

yeah dammit...what the HELL! did the damn animal activist ppl start messing with boxing..what the hell..stick to your thing..man...god

i like roy as a announcer....he aint all that bad

Mr. Untouchable
12-28-2004, 12:22 AM
He's not a very good announcer, but if HBO bows to this terrorist group, then that's not going to go over well with potential talent they hope to do business with. When was the last time PETA sponsored a fight? Or the Humane Society? Screw those guys. I agree with you, what does ****fighting have to do with announcing. In my opinion the same people that watch boxing matches have witnessed atleast one dog fight or **** fight in their life. So I don't think HBO will lose many fight viewers over this...But!!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't be said if roy jones never commentated a fight again. he is simply terrible at it. George Foreman was very biased at times, but atleast he could talk and made the commentary colorful. I nominate James Toney as Roy Jones replacement.

Hurlex
12-28-2004, 01:43 AM
james toney?! :eek: ...wow really lol..i can see it now
if he was at the winky/tito fight

toney-"now we have ***** as tito getting winky on the ropes...winky looks like he likes it because he actually turning his lower body into tito's lower body...these 2 *****es have been going at it all night-i bet there wives are jeoulous, that they have not seen that much action with their man,and winky goes down from a punch to his chin..winky on his knees...its not the first time he's been there,,,but it looks like this time he wont get up and clean himself up, it over..***** ass tito wins.

hehe..just playing..lol..but i would love to see that

Marjoh
12-28-2004, 01:50 AM
James Toney was in the Jirov-Moorer fight, and he wasn't like that. Though I would love to see him being himself.

Dr.Depravity
12-28-2004, 01:55 AM
If someone is doing something that is still legal, why should they be fired from their job. I dont have an opinion on **** fighting either way, however I would be surprised if its still legal in 10 years. Isnt Louisianna the only state that still permits it?

KJ
12-28-2004, 03:31 AM
I did like Jones as a fighter, but cannot say the same for him being a commentator. During the Tarver-Johnson fight I was wondering how long he would stay on.
I think they are using this bird thing only as an excuse to fire him.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-28-2004, 03:32 AM
If they fire him they should Have Emmanuel Stewart as the commentator. He is not affraid to go against Harold's wack ass card and unlike Merchant he actually has valid points.

Neuraxis
12-28-2004, 03:47 AM
RJJ should have been fired a long time ago.

jayschre
12-28-2004, 03:52 AM
I never really cared for Jones as a boxer, but I actually like him as an announcer. Although I kept waiting for either Larry or Jim to make some comment about the fact that both guys in the ring were facing each other after brutalizing RJ, then asking him how that feels to watch the two fight each other. I absolutely can't stand Manny Stewart as an announcer I think he would be ok except for when he says the word "pahticuller"(I know its spelled wrong). for example "Roy Jones looks like he is going through the motions in the fight tonight Pahticullerly in that last rd." Just watch one of the fights he has done and try to count how many damn times he uses the word! Anyway **** these animal rights activists they are the same people who would fire bomb a humane society building because they euthenize dogs and cats. Them and PETA can both go straight to hell as far as I'm concerned, like any of them are boxing fans anyway.

jabsRstiff
12-28-2004, 08:11 AM
Roy Jones is an excellent commentator.
Anyone who thinks George Foreman was better, doesn't know enough about boxing to realize that 90% of what George said was utter bull****, fantasy stuff.


I'm against ****fighting.....but I don't think it should have any bearing on Roy keeping his job at HBO.
Do these PETA people really believe that HBO boxing will suffer because of Roy's participation in ****fighting ?
I hope they're not that stupid.

bigdaddy
12-28-2004, 08:31 AM
Roy Jones is a good commentator. He breaks the fight down very well. Larry needs to go. I think the only reason HBO has him is to kill time. And lord knows he can do that.

Soundtraveler
12-28-2004, 09:23 AM
The roosters used for the sport would kill each other if they got loose, it is what they do, it's not that you have to train them - they do it on their own any damn way! It's called nature, now - on the other hand - getting pit bulls to fight is cruel, slow, and torturous to the animals, however, the ****fights are fast, and are usually over with one stick from the attached footwear on the roosters.

For the SPCA or PETA or whoever to say that Jones should be fired for doing something that is legal is absolute bullcrap, they have nothing to do with boxing, or HBO or announcing a boxing match - I'll tell you what is cruel though - "donkey shows" in Mexico - now that's cruel, I mean damn, have you seen how ugly those girls are that the poor donkey has to **** everyday! Call the SPCA!! That is animal abuse for sure!!

bigdaddy
12-28-2004, 09:53 AM
The roosters used for the sport would kill each other if they got loose, it is what they do, it's not that you have to train them - they do it on their own any damn way! It's called nature, now - on the other hand - getting pit bulls to fight is cruel, slow, and torturous to the animals, however, the ****fights are fast, and are usually over with one stick from the attached footwear on the roosters.

For the SPCA or PETA or whoever to say that Jones should be fired for doing something that is legal is absolute bullcrap, they have nothing to do with boxing, or HBO or announcing a boxing match - I'll tell you what is cruel though - "donkey shows" in Mexico - now that's cruel, I mean damn, have you seen how ugly those girls are that the poor donkey has to **** everyday! Call the SPCA!! That is animal abuse for sure!!

Poor damn donkeys. Someone has to help them. Call the SPCA now. To funny.

Neuraxis
12-28-2004, 02:12 PM
Roy Jones is an excellent commentator.
Anyone who thinks George Foreman was better, doesn't know enough about boxing to realize that 90% of what George said was utter bull****, fantasy stuff.


I'm against ****fighting.....but I don't think it should have any bearing on Roy keeping his job at HBO.
Do these PETA people really believe that HBO boxing will suffer because of Roy's participation in ****fighting ?
I hope they're not that stupid.

Its impossible to be an excellent commentator and cheer for a fighter during a fight.

Mr. Ryan
12-28-2004, 02:16 PM
They should replace him with Max Kellerman...can you imagine Max and Merchant getting into it? Larry with his slow, drunken drawl and Max with his quick-tongued, somewhat annoying arrogance.
No, they really shouldn't.

Mr. Ryan
12-28-2004, 02:18 PM
They should replace him with Max Kellerman...can you imagine Max and Merchant getting into it? Larry with his slow, drunken drawl and Max with his quick-tongued, somewhat annoying arrogance.
I wouldn't want to have to hear Max's annoying voice talking about how Zab Judah is the p4p best in the world, how Spadafora would outbox Roberto Duran, or how Roy Jones would embarrass Ray Robinson. Let him stay with Fox Sportsnet and call Sam Soliman and Robert Allen fights.

MlLkMan
12-28-2004, 02:37 PM
I dont think he will be fire.


I dont think so too

jack_the_rippuh
12-28-2004, 03:36 PM
George Foreman > Roy Jones Jr.

jack_the_rippuh
12-28-2004, 03:36 PM
George Foreman > Roy Jones Jr.

bpapa420
12-28-2004, 05:05 PM
These animal rights people make me sick. No way should someone lose there job because some wacko doesnt approve of what they do in there downtime. If jones loses his job because of this I hope he sues the pants off of both parties.

Ivansmamma
12-28-2004, 08:58 PM
What a joke, fiering a fight comentator for being cruel against some animal.

Solo322
01-17-2005, 01:30 PM
it has nothing to do with animal rights, cause it's still legal for jones. HBO shouldn't care what PETA thinks because there's no way that they're losing too many boxing viewers because of jones. i think lampley says stupid stuff, i like larry, he sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

Mr. Violence
01-17-2005, 01:33 PM
Damnnnnn....Ko'd twice and now KO'd by HBO...Jones is going through some rough times.

PBDS
01-17-2005, 01:35 PM
He's not a very good announcer, but if HBO bows to this terrorist group, then that's not going to go over well with potential talent they hope to do business with. When was the last time PETA sponsored a fight? Or the Humane Society? Screw those guys.


...Well said Neils!!! Spoken like a true Republican. :)

PBDS
01-17-2005, 01:41 PM
I wouldn't want to have to hear Max's annoying voice talking about how Zab Judah is the p4p best in the world, how Spadafora would outbox Roberto Duran, or how Roy Jones would embarrass Ray Robinson. Let him stay with Fox Sportsnet and call Sam Soliman and Robert Allen fights.


...Yeah Kellerman sucks. If he commentated for HBO I would boycott their boxing.

Toller
01-17-2005, 02:08 PM
Anyone who thinks George Foreman was better, doesn't know enough about boxing to realize that 90% of what George said was utter bull****, fantasy stuff.

"Tonight the most important man in the ring, other than the fighters, is the referee"

LOL, Big George does say some stupid things but I like him . . . more than Roy Jones anyway. Personally I'm not really bothered whether the commentators say stupid things - I just want to be entertained. And Big George definitely entertains me. I can't understand what Roy Jones says half the time (though I'm not American, so maybe that's why).

Chups
01-17-2005, 02:35 PM
I was impressed at Jones during the Glen vs. Tarver fight..very professional and unbiased for somebody who has a very big ego. Never heard a word to put down those two who knocked him out. GJ IMHO.

jswa17
01-17-2005, 02:52 PM
I am against animal cruelty certainly but Roid should be fired
just because of his inability to enunciate. You can't understand him half the time. Ray Leonard was bad but compared to R.J., he sounds like Richard Burton!

hahaha i agree with that

DR. FREECLOUD
01-17-2005, 03:57 PM
roy is boring to listen too although he makes very good points when discussing fights.big george was much more exciting to listen too even though he tended to be biased. i thought george made several good points when commentating until he got biased.

Truth
01-17-2005, 04:12 PM
I think Roy is doing a great job with HBO.

Alibata
01-17-2005, 04:49 PM
Being born and raised in the Philippines, the world's capital of **** fighting, I just do not see what the big deal is. I grew up with a rooster under my armpits. They are animals that serve a purpose other than being killed for food 1 rooster is at least given a chance to live and spread his seed. These animals live for battle and I can see how Roy appreciates the spirit and ability of these animal warriors. I don't think Roy will be fired. Manny Pacquiao is also an avid **** fighter. These PETA people would see a person die before a rat. They should go hug a tree or something.

trevorjulien
04-29-2005, 10:55 PM
Roy is great for HBO. He puts Merchant in his place all the time. You gotta atleast love that about him

Truth
04-29-2005, 11:03 PM
Roy is great for HBO. He puts Merchant in his place all the time. You gotta atleast love that about him

I agree, I have always enjoyed Roy's comentary also. I am a fan of HBO's crew I think they do a great job.

sc21A
04-29-2005, 11:08 PM
Yeah I like Max Kellerman, he's one of those guys who you love to hate though it's tough not to agree with him on certain things so yes he would be a nice addition and it would be great to see him back on the boxing scene as I haven't seen him on any boxing programs.

jack_the_rippuh
04-29-2005, 11:13 PM
**** that....bring back Big George